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June 26, 2016 at 7:33 am #47094znModerator
George Will leaves the GOP
By Kristen East
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/george-will-leaves-gop-224801#ixzz4CgWeZc1h
Conservative columnist George Will has left the Republican Party.
The longtime commentator reportedly made the announcement during a Federalist Society event in Washington, D.C., on Friday.
Will, who resides in Maryland, said he changed his affiliation this month from Republican to unaffiliated.
A report from PJ Media quoted Will as saying: “This is not my party.”
He also said that it’s too late for the Republican Party to nominate someone who isn’t Donald Trump, an idea that those in the Never Trump movement have been holding on to as the convention nears.
“Make sure he loses,” he said. “Grit their teeth for four years and win the White House.”
Trump attacked the Washington Post columnist as a “major loser” last month, criticizing a column Will wrote, headlined “If Trump is nominated, the GOP must keep him out of the White House.”June 26, 2016 at 7:36 am #47095znModeratorIf Trump is nominated, the GOP must keep him out of the White House
George F. Will
April 29Donald Trump’s damage to the Republican Party, although already extensive, has barely begun. Republican quislings will multiply, slinking into support of the most anti-conservative presidential aspirant in their party’s history. These collaborationists will render themselves ineligible to participate in the party’s reconstruction.
Ted Cruz’s announcement of his preferred running mate has enhanced the nomination process by giving voters pertinent information. They already know the only important thing about Trump’s choice: His running mate will be unqualified for high office because he or she will think Trump is qualified.
Hillary Clinton’s optimal running mate might be Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio, a pro-labor populist whose selection would be balm for the bruised feelings of Bernie Sanders’s legions. Running mates rarely matter as electoral factors: In 2000, Al Gore got 43.2 percent of the North Carolina vote. In 2004, John Kerry, trying to improve upon Gore’s total there, ran with North Carolina Sen. John Edwards but received 43.6 percent. If, however, Brown were to help deliver Ohio for Clinton, the Republican path to 270 electoral votes would be narrower than a needle’s eye.
Republican voters, particularly in Indiana and California, can, by supporting Cruz, make the Republican convention a deliberative body rather than one that merely ratifies decisions made elsewhere, some of them six months earlier. A convention’s sovereign duty is to choose a plausible nominee who has a reasonable chance to win, not to passively affirm the will of a mere plurality of voters recorded episodically in a protracted process.
Trump would be the most unpopular nominee ever, unable to even come close to Mitt Romney’s insufficient support among women, minorities and young people. In losing disastrously, Trump probably would create down-ballot carnage sufficient to end even Republican control of the House. Ticket splitting is becoming rare in polarized America: In 2012, only 5.7 percent of voters supported a presidential candidate and a congressional candidate of opposite parties.
At least half a dozen Republican senators seeking reelection and Senate aspirants can hope to win if the person at the top of the Republican ticket loses their state by, say, only four points, but not if he loses by 10. A Democratic Senate probably would guarantee a Supreme Court with a liberal cast for a generation. If Clinton is inaugurated next Jan. 20, Merrick Garland probably will already be on the court — confirmed in a lame-duck Senate session — and Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Anthony M. Kennedy and Stephen G. Breyer will be 83, 80 and 78, respectively.
The minority of people who pay close attention to politics includes those who define an ideal political outcome and pursue it, and those who focus on the worst possible outcome and strive to avoid it. The former experience the excitements of utopianism, the latter settle for prudence’s mild pleasure of avoiding disappointed dreams. Both sensibilities have their uses, but this is a time for prudence, which demands the prevention of a Trump presidency.
Were he to be nominated, conservatives would have two tasks. One would be to help him lose 50 states — condign punishment for his comprehensive disdain for conservative essentials, including the manners and grace that should lubricate the nation’s civic life. Second, conservatives can try to save from the anti-Trump undertow as many senators, representatives, governors and state legislators as possible.
It was 32 years after Jimmy Carter won 50.1 percent in 1976 that a Democrat won half the popular vote. Barack Obama won only 52.9 percent and then 51.1 percent, but only three Democrats — Andrew Jackson (twice), Franklin Roosevelt (four times) and Lyndon Johnson — have won more than 53 percent. Trump probably would make Clinton the fourth, and he would be a tonic for her party, undoing the extraordinary damage (13 Senate seats, 69 House seats, 11 governorships, 913 state legislative seats) Obama has done.
If Trump is nominated, Republicans working to purge him and his manner from public life will reap the considerable satisfaction of preserving the identity of their 162-year-old party while working to see that they forgo only four years of the enjoyment of executive power. Six times since 1945 a party has tried, and five times failed, to secure a third consecutive presidential term. The one success — the Republicans’ 1988 election of George H.W. Bush — produced a one-term president. If Clinton gives her party its first 12 consecutive White House years since 1945, Republicans can help Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse, or someone else who has honorably recoiled from Trump, confine her to a single term.
June 26, 2016 at 9:07 am #47096bnwBlockedI love it. The establishment is sweating bullets over the republican nomination of Trump and the rising schism represented by Sanders within the democrat party. Will is witnessing the fruits of his 3 decades of cheerleading globalism that has enriched his ilk while devastating the middle class and devastating our standing within the world community by our war mongering. The people don’t believe what he spews out of his pie hole any more. Same for establishment types from the democrat side. People see that what the establishment claims is good for the people is only good for the establishment. Look at how D.C. and the surrounding counties have suffered over the last 3 decades. Yes that was a joke. Those areas have always done great and have been insulated from the economic policies devastating other parts of the nation. The people want jobs. They don’t want to increase their tax burden or the future tax burden on their children by flooding this country with illegal aliens and unvetted refugees who do not respect our culture nor our laws and judicial system. The people do not want to face even greater competition for jobs when the jobless rate given by the government greatly underestimates the true rate of unemployment. The people do not want to see their jobs outsourced overseas nor do they want to be forced to train their foreign worker replacing them by the abuse of the H-1B program.
Jobs. Its all about jobs. The people are tired of watching the economic opportunity for their children shrink to the point that the choice in most of this nation is either unemployment, crime, working 3 part time jobs with no benefits or the military. The military should not be used as a jobs program.
Establishment types like Will are going to witness their becoming the next Dodo Bird within the next few years. Their repudiation will be complete since they were only ever successful in their self serving agenda masquerading as them ever giving a damn about the people. The people are turning a deaf ear to the professional polished politicians trained in deceit, raised in expectation of entitlement at the peoples expense and experienced in speaking before a teleprompter from both sides of their mouth.
Enjoy your insignificance Will. For true justice would be you and your ilk having to be on your hands and knees cleaning up the mess you made.
- This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by bnw.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
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June 26, 2016 at 10:05 am #47106AgamemnonParticipantJune 26, 2016 at 12:14 pm #47123znModeratorHere, now it is about football.
Moved it.
(Note: I had originally posted this on the wrong board.)
June 26, 2016 at 12:49 pm #47135MaddyParticipantGeorge Will has written some stuff I like, but it was about baseball. I Disagree with his politics.
I agree with most of what bnw says above, with small difference of opinion in terms of jobs. Maybe the refugees would damage the job market, but I feel that the fears surrounding refugees are exaggerated, or exacerbated, in the media.
My biggest complaint about loss of jobs is with employers who pay little or no taxes, enjoy the benefit of a military who protects their global investment climates, and yet ships jobs overseas. They avoid picking up the tab for the military on the front end, and then they avoid hiring the guys who go offer their lives to protect their interests on the back end. That’s fucked up. And it is all George Will’s fault I guess is my point.
June 26, 2016 at 2:53 pm #47155waterfieldParticipantI rarely-if ever-agreed with Will. But I always respected him.
June 26, 2016 at 4:56 pm #47164wvParticipantI cant stand Will, never could, but its a perfect example
of Trumps challenge. He’s already won over all the angry white males.
He’s not gonna pick up any more. So where will his swing votes come from?Hillary needs the Bernie-leftists.
Who does Trump need?
Seems to me this George Will thing reflects a significant problem/hurdle
for Trump. I dont think his advisors are laughing this off the way
he appears to be.w
vJune 26, 2016 at 6:20 pm #47169bnwBlockedI dont think his advisors are laughing this off the way
he appears to be.w
vIf true then he needs new advisors.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
June 27, 2016 at 12:39 am #47183waterfieldParticipantI like Will -in terms of sharing a drink with the guy-I just don’t agree with him on most issues.
June 27, 2016 at 2:40 am #47188ZooeyModeratorScrew George Will.
Vonnegut once called him an A+ student. And that’s about right. He organizes his thoughts, and writes articulately, and honestly gathers his facts, and there is nowhere you can mark him down in his essay. He gets an A+.
He is also full of shit from cap a pied, but you can’t mark down his grade for that.
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