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  • #55051
    nittany ram
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    This is what the electoral map will look like in 2020 if Trump wins…
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    Credit: Tom Freemen

    #55190
    nittany ram
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    #55195
    wv
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    How important is Pencil-vania ?

    Pretty important, apparently:
    link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-9Vb-Xiw3g

    #55197
    wv
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    Check out the Ben Carson comment and the look on the reporters face. Bout the 6:15 mark or so:

    link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNs0J062SJE

    #55220
    PA Ram
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    Pence was in our city yesterday–stopped at a famous local bar.

    The only one from the Clinton side we’ve seen so far is Tim Kaine’s wife.

    Right now things look good for her in Pennsylvania but I really don’t know what to expect. Are there people who are saying they won’t vote for Trump publicly but who will do it when inside the voting booth?

    Nothing can be taken for granted.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #55221
    Zooey
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    . Are there people who are saying they won’t vote for Trump publicly but who will do it when inside the voting booth?

    I would say, yes. I don’t know for sure about what they are saying to the polls, but public support is much smaller than private support.

    I live in the most conservative county in California. It votes for the GOP at a rate of 70%, typically. And there are a high percentage of Libertarians here.

    Bush stickers and signs were all over the place, even in 2004. Lots of McCain/Palin, plenty of Romney/Ryan.

    There is just nothing around. I see a handful of Trump signs. A couple of bumper stickers. No sign of Hillary, either. By far the most common political sign out now is the State of Jefferson stuff (There has been a Libertarian group trying to split off from California for decades, and it has risen much higher in visibility the past 3 or 4 years).

    So I surmise that a lot of Trump supporters are smart enough to know what supporters of Trump look like, and they don’t want to look like that. A lot of people are smart enough to keep their bigotries to themselves except in the company of other known bigots. I am certain lots of people who are going to vote for Trump are hiding behind the Undecided or Gary Johnson camps at the water cooler, but will punch the ticket for Trump once behind the curtain.

    #55222
    Zooey
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    From the Brits:

    #55232
    wv
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    From the Brits:

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    Well, I’ve seen enough old posters to know that American politics
    has beeen ‘debased’ since the beginning.

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    #55239
    wv
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    #55241
    JackPMiller
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    Pence was in our city yesterday–stopped at a famous local bar.

    The only one from the Clinton side we’ve seen so far is Tim Kaine’s wife.

    Right now things look good for her in Pennsylvania but I really don’t know what to expect. Are there people who are saying they won’t vote for Trump publicly but who will do it when inside the voting booth?

    Nothing can be taken for granted.

    I saw that to. The people at the Peanut Bar was pretty shocked.

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