Fred Roggin of NBC says Fisher has four games to prove himself…

he did go on about the rams moving to los angeles for awhile before they actually moved.

not sure how reliable he is though.

nittany ram wrote:

According to TST, he said this in the Eric Dickerson show…

Jason Stewart @JasonStewart
“From what I am hearing, Jeff Fisher’s fate will be sealed after the next four games.” – @FredNBCLA on The @EricDickerson show just now
4:37 PM – 24 Oct 2016 · Bellflower, CA, United States

Next 4 games are Carolina, at NY Jets, Miami, at New Orleans. All winnable games.

Of course, it isn’t mentioned how many of these next four games he has to win.

I never heard of Fred Roggin before. Have no idea how reliable he is.

I’m assuming Fisher would have to go 3-1. But after the 3 game losing streak, it would not be surprising if Fisher has to go undefeated in those game to get an extension.

The smart thing is to wait til the end of the season. If Fisher goes 7-9 again, or 8-8, or even 9-7, he is fired. Remember, you have to sell to the LA fan base. Giving Fisher a new deal, will make Ram fans the organization does not care about winning. The Colosseum may get fans, but it will be fans of other teams. It will feel like there would be no home games.

Zooey wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

It may be BS. And if it was true Stan certainly wouldn’t confide in Joe Roggin. But he would have confided in somebody. Probably multiple people. And info like this tends to leak.

But yeah, I’m skeptical.

Well, if he confided it in multiple people, he didn’t confide it.

Nobody with 50 years experience in big business is going to make any kind of ironclad declaration like that.

At most, Stan said something, regarding the contract extension, along the lines of, “Let’s wait, and see where we are at the end of November.”

Joe Reporter hears that…and, voila. “Fate sealed.”

I wouldn’t give Fisher a contract longer than a two-year extension if I were owner. Up to the new stadium. I would want my options open right there. And if I was owner, I would wait until the end of November to decide what I want to do. Why lock him up earlier than necessary?

Remember, as an owner, you have to sell Jeff Fisher to the LA Ram fan base. Basically, the only fans that would show up, are basically fans from other teams. Most of the seats in the Colosseum will be virtually empty. That is what you will get with Fisher. Fisher has proven, that he doesn’t deserve a an extension.

JackPMiller wrote:

Remember, as an owner, you have to sell Jeff Fisher to the LA Ram fan base. Basically, the only fans that would show up, are basically fans from other teams. Most of the seats in the Colosseum will be virtually empty. That is what you will get with Fisher. Fisher has proven, that he doesn’t deserve a an extension.

Jack, sorry, no. That’s not true. The owner doesn’t have to sell anything right now. The team is in a Honeymoon period. That city is overjoyed to have the Rams back, and they sold something like 55,000 season tickets in the first 12 minutes. The Gate Receipts are not among the worries faced by Stan Kroenke right now. And with the glitziest of stadiums opening up in a couple of years, Stan isn’t worried about the gate.

If he is worried about anything, it is winning in the long run. LA does not tolerate losers. But the team is going to get a pass with the fans for another three seasons, no matter what.

I will be very surprised if Fisher doesn’t take the Rams to the end of their tenancy at the Coliseum at the very least.

I will bet right now that he gets a 2-year extension after Thanksgiving unless the wheels fall off that team between now and then.

Nobody with 50 years experience in big business is going to make any kind of ironclad declaration like that.

Unless you’re Donald Trump…

But I agree with you. Fisher is here through the season or maybe through the 3rd season in LA.

It all depends on which HC is available because Fisher’s medocracy won’t sell the PSLs in Inglewood.

All i know is, it is unique — I mean that literally — unique — that we have a situation where an NFL coach has had four losing seasons in a row, and now has a losing record in his fifth season, and there is talk of “extending” his contract.

Anybody ever remember anything like that before in the NFL ?

I dont.

In a weird way it gives me a perverse little inner smile. I dunno why.

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It won’t need to. Inglewood will sell on the basis of Inglewood, not on who is HC.

You think the most glorious stadium in the world is going to open its doors, and people are going to say, “Wow! Fantastic! I would SO buy tickets there, but…enh…Jeff Fisher is the coach, so I’ll pass.” Seriously, the Cleveland Browns would sell the place out initially.

And I don’t mean to predict or advocate that Fisher will still be coach. SK may decide to add some sizzle to his sizzle, and open a New Glorious Era with a new coach. But that will be sizzle. What I am saying is the HC will have no impact on ticket sales for the inaugural season there. That stadium is an Event all by itself with nothing happening on the field.

Yes maybe for the first 1 or 2 seasons.

2 year old Levi wasn’t exactly packed with 49 fans when Jim Tomsula coached nor today at 3 years old with Chip Kelly at the helm.

Granted, Inglewood will be much much elaborate in scale and bells and whistles, than Levi, but Ultimately a winning culture is needed to put Ram fans in the seats.

Also…they just invested a ton of draft picks in Goff and Stan wants to turn around and Sam Bradforize him?….Stan is not a PIE (had to get that in) in the sky dreamer, he a realist and knows he has to do what’s best to get Goff going.

I’m in alignment with most for this….., I can wait for Goff to be ready… If the coaches don’t see that Goff is making plays in practice, he won’t make them game time. That’s fine. “Gotta make plays in practice before making them in a game”

The part I don’t understand is “Sam Bradforize” Goff….. Bradford was never a bad QB. If you mean that Bradforizing is physically injuring a QB, then I get the point, but if you’re referring to Bradforizing to playing mentally bad or just playing bad, Bradford doesn’t fit that bill… He never was a bad QB, he was actually very good. He was ROY on a very bad Rams team.

I’d take Bradford the past 2 years over Keenum, Foles and even Goff any day of the week…

joemad wrote:

The part I don’t understand is “Sam Bradforize” Goff….. Bradford was never a bad QB. If you mean that Bradforizing is physically injuring a QB, then I get the point, but if you’re referring to Bradforizing to playing mentally bad or just playing bad, Bradford doesn’t fit that bill… He never was a bad QB, he was actually very good. He was ROY on a very bad Rams team.

I’d take Bradford the past 2 years over Keenum, Foles and even Goff any day of the week…

I’m not sure that even using Bradfordizing is a good analogy for QB abuse. Sam got hurt on 2 specific, but weird plays, over a 2 year span. The first was running OB on a scramble, and the next year, IIRC, he was just stepping forward in the pocket. No massive hit on either injury, just weird outcomes.

Now, Bulgerizing is probably a better analogy for getting beat up as a QB, dealing with broken ribs and other assorted pleasantries during that phase of him undergoing Bulgerization.

However, that didn’t occur when he was a rookie either, so if Goff were to go in too early and get beat up, Bradfordizing and/or Bulgeringing would not be a good tag. Gofferized, or All Goffed Up might be more apropos.

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joemad wrote:

Also…they just invested a ton of draft picks in Goff and Stan wants to turn around and Sam Bradforize him?….Stan is not a PIE (had to get that in) in the sky dreamer, he a realist and knows he has to do what’s best to get Goff going.

I’m in alignment with most for this….., I can wait for Goff to be ready… If the coaches don’t see that Goff is making plays in practice, he won’t make them game time. That’s fine. “Gotta make plays in practice before making them in a game”

The part I don’t understand is “Sam Bradforize” Goff….. Bradford was never a bad QB. If you mean that Bradforizing is physically injuring a QB, then I get the point, but if you’re referring to Bradforizing to playing mentally bad or just playing bad, Bradford doesn’t fit that bill… He never was a bad QB, he was actually very good. He was ROY on a very bad Rams team.

I’d take Bradford the past 2 years over Keenum, Foles and even Goff any day of the week…

What I meant was the changing of coordinators and coaches at the start of his career.

I also liked Sam and thought he didn’t get a fair shake at the start and I also felt it was a good thing for him to move on.

nittany ram wrote:

According to TST, he said this in the Eric Dickerson show…

Jason Stewart @JasonStewart
“From what I am hearing, Jeff Fisher’s fate will be sealed after the next four games.” – @FredNBCLA on The @EricDickerson show just now
4:37 PM – 24 Oct 2016 · Bellflower, CA, United States

Next 4 games are Carolina, at NY Jets, Miami, at New Orleans. All winnable games.

Of course, it isn’t mentioned how many of these next four games he has to win.

I never heard of Fred Roggin before. Have no idea how reliable he is.

Fred Roggin might be hearing this from other writers/reporters, and is doing what a lot of sports media people do – turn the speculative comments of those outside the organization into a potential event from “sources”.