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  • #112922
    waterfield
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    I noticed somewhere in a WV post he is reading about “free diving”. Been doing it since I was 13 yrs old. For those not in the know it is an ocean sport where one dives holding his or her breath. No SCUBA. The attached is a chapter from a book by Terry Maas titled Blue Water Hunting. Biggest danger is shallow water blackouts-something I’ve experienced twice and the reason for the attached.

    http://www.freedive.net/chapters/SWB3.html

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    #112924
    Avatar photowv
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    Yes, i like learning about subcultures. Whether its rodeo riders, or surfers or people who fall in love with inanimate objects, etc.

    The freedivers often talk about a certain ‘peace’ that comes with diving with no equipment.

    And then there’s all the fascinating ‘science’ of it. The human body adapts to the depths in such startling ways.

    And then there’s the ‘history’. People have been deepdive-fishing for eons, and so many myths and stories accompany it….

    You seem to be pretty connected to the Water, Waterfield.

    #112960
    waterfield
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    We are different than the video. Those guys are very strange. No fins, no masks, and they can go as deep as 300 ft. Years ago when we were in shape and free diving in spearfishing tournaments we often dove 70-100 ft while hunting (no SCUBA). Today its more like we float around on top of the water and if we don’t see anything we get back in the boat and drink wine.

    #112965
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    We are different than the video. Those guys are very strange. No fins, no masks, and they can go as deep as 300 ft. Years ago when we were in shape and free diving in spearfishing tournaments we often dove 70-100 ft while hunting (no SCUBA). Today its more like we float around on top of the water and if we don’t see anything we get back in the boat and drink wine.

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    70-100 feet is very impressive. I often wish i had grown up near the ocean. Not much deep-diving in appalachia 🙂

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    #112973
    waterfield
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    So where did you grow up ? If you start as a young age your ears become accustomed to clearing as you go down. You can actually hear the click, click, click click click. The real danger is that if you spear a fish at that depth and it “holes up” you need to stay and work the fish out of its cave. That takes time, and effort-using precious air. I’ve known more than one free diver who is no longer with us because of this. My most memorable and frightening time was 1957 Pacific Coast Championship off Carmel -near Monterey. The water was not clear until 30 ft down and then it was crystal clear-but no light because of the dirty water above. I shot a ling cod at 60 ft but the line was tangled around a rock. After working unsuccessfully I knew I was in trouble. I left the gun and fish and started up knowing was totally spent and out of air. When I reached the surface I could sense my legs becoming numb and the numbness rising up to my waist. I had tunnel vision and knew I was about to “black out”. When that happens your body does what it wants which is to breath and if you do that underwater you breath water and you then sink. Another diver near by-and a competitor-knew I was in trouble and came over to hold me until I came out of it. The article I posted by Terry Maas ( a friend) is very illustrative of the dangers of “shallow water blackout”.

    Bottom line-this is not “snorkeling”. A present problem we have is younger divers who push the limits and we are seeing more and more drownings.

    #112978
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    So where did you grow up ? If you start as a young age your ears become accustomed to clearing as you go down. You can actually hear the click, click, click click click. The real danger is that if you spear a fish at that depth and it “holes up” you need to stay and work the fish out of its cave. That takes time, and effort-using precious air. I’ve known more than one free diver who is no longer with us because of this. My most memorable and frightening time was 1957 Pacific Coast Championship off Carmel -near Monterey. The water was not clear until 30 ft down and then it was crystal clear-but no light because of the dirty water above. I shot a ling cod at 60 ft but the line was tangled around a rock. After working unsuccessfully I knew I was in trouble. I left the gun and fish and started up knowing was totally spent and out of air. When I reached the surface I could sense my legs becoming numb and the numbness rising up to my waist. I had tunnel vision and knew I was about to “black out”. When that happens your body does what it wants which is to breath and if you do that underwater you breath water and you then sink. Another diver near by-and a competitor-knew I was in trouble and came over to hold me until I came out of it. The article I posted by Terry Maas ( a friend) is very illustrative of the dangers of “shallow water blackout”.

    Bottom line-this is not “snorkeling”. A present problem we have is younger divers who push the limits and we are seeing more and more drownings.

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    I grew up here. In WV.

    Here’s some advice I read.

    “If a shark actually gets you in its mouth, we advise to be as aggressively defensive as you are able.”

    link:https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/shark-attacks/reduce-risk/divers/

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    #112996
    waterfield
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    Interesting stuff on the HBO program. The “competition” they mentioned is totally different than spearfishing competitions. In the former there is no “hunt” involved its simply a dead drop-straight down as far as your breath can take you-then a release of whatever assistance has carried you down-weights, rope, etc-then back up with others near the surface in case of a black out. In spearfishing competitions you are usually by yourself and once at your depth you are hunting into holes, caves, etc and chasing fish.

    Here’s kind of a cool video made by a free diver with a go-pro camera. Shows some 100 ft dives for hunting. These are young studs. Like I say for me now-its mostly 30 ft stuff and then back on the boat for wine. But we still at least get in the water-just not like what you see in this video-anymore-but there was a time.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=vido+deep+spearfishing&&view=detail&mid=3485631C6EF9148D96E23485631C6EF9148D96E2&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dvido%2Bdeep%2Bspearfishing%26%26FORM%3DVDVVXX

    #112997
    waterfield
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    P.S. As you can tell I like discussing this stuff. Its been my life-other than my family and the law.

    #113004
    Avatar photowv
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    Have you noticed any changes in the underwater environment since you first started?
    Environmental damage? Plastic, etc?

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    #113013
    waterfield
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    Most changes I see are related to illegal fishing practices that have wiped out certain species. The water seems not as clear-keeping in mind most of my diving is off the California coast and it has never been as clear as say Hawaii. The marine scientists say the water temperature is drastically up due to climate change-which is hard to notice when you are not at deep current levels. But I do notice different species of fish never before seen in our waters-mostly fish coming from normal warm waters off Mexico-probably for survival.

    #113016
    waterfield
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    By the way: what’s depicted in the video with the woman is very, very typical. What happens is that everyone wants to get in the water so everyone in the boat goes in. Hopefully the anchor is set well enough where you don’t have to worry. But sometimes the anchor isn’t and will drag across the bottom causing the boat to drift. After every single dive I will look for the boat no matter how far away I am to see if it is drifting. Most of the time -unless a strong current is running-you can swim to it, get in, motor back to the dive area and set the anchor. But I’ve had to be picked up by other boats more than once.

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