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You could franchise Foles. What would that cost? This is 2015 it will be more in 2016
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The NFL announced that the 2015 salary cap will be $143.28 million. Here’s a look at the official franchise and transition tag totals.
PositionFranchise QB $18.544M
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AgamemnonPreview 2014
NFL QBs of the Future – 2015
By Richard Cirminiello
Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
– Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018The franchise quarterback. The face of an organization. Every team in the NFL craves him, but only a handful are fortunate enough to stake claim to an Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or one of Archie Manning’s boys.
This past May, 14 quarterbacks were selected by NFL teams, including three in the opening round, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel and Teddy Bridgewater. The trio, and even second-rounders Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo, will all be expected to lead their teams into the playoffs at some point in their careers. It’s a part of the unspoken contract that comes with being a high drafted quarterback.
Bortles, Manziel and Bridgewater followed Buffalo’s EJ Manuel as recent quarterbacks selected in Round 1, but who’ll be those future gems that can lift up the hopes of an NFL city? Who’ll be the savior under center in 2015? 2016? How about 2018? It’s clearly early for such an exercise, but no less fun to speculate and debate over the would-be first-round hurlers currently populating college campuses, some of whom recently completed their high school careers.
Making no assumptions about which players will redshirt or leave school with eligibility on the table, here’s a look at future franchise quarterback contenders for the next four NFL Draft cycles:
5. Chuckie Keeton, Utah State
First-Round Timber Because … size matters at the position, but not as much as it did just a couple of years ago. Thank you, Seattle Seahawks. Keeton is a playmaker, and a winner, blending physical tools with the intangibles an organization can build around. While he missed half of last year to an ACL injury, he’s got the upcoming season to impress scouts with his ability to lead and move an offense.
Poised to Tumble Because … concerns about his size, around 6-2 and 200 pounds, will inevitably scare off a handful of teams. So, too, will the facts that Keeton played his career in smaller leagues, and lived off screen passes and short tosses. Rising up the charts will require No. 16 to prove, in-season or during pre-draft, that he can consistently fit the ball in tight windows.
Shades of … Russell Wilson4. Braxton Miller, Ohio State
First-Round Timber Because … when healthy, he’s one of the most exciting dual-threats currently playing at the college level. Miller is an exceptional all-around athlete, with the arm strength and the straight-line speed to exploit defenses with explosive plays. Miller is still developing as a complete player, but he’s surrounded by talented coaches, and he’s played a ton of football in Columbus.
Poised to Tumble Because … he gets beaten up, and he’s not the prototype in an NFL passer. Not only is Miller just 6-2, a generous estimate, but he continues to lack accuracy through the air, especially on the deep and intermediate routes. Unless he can make considerable strides in 2014, Miller won’t make GMs swoon over his arm or his mechanics, which will severely dampen his draft grade.
Shades of … Johnny Manziel3. Jeff Driskel, Florida
First-Round Timber Because … you can’t coach Driskel’s size, athleticism or arm strength – even if he doesn’t unleash it. All of the other question marks regarding the senior’s game can be coached up by an NFL staff. The 6-4, 237-pound Driskel has way too much natural ability to not enjoy a salary run finale this season, particularly since new offseason coordinator Kurt Roper is now overseeing his development.
Poised to Tumble Because … he’s yet to show sustained excellence as a passer. And it’s getting late in the evaluation process. Driskel is now in his fourth year in Gainesville, yet no one knows for certain if he’s capable of being a consistent and accurate downfield passer. His reads and accuracy have been spotty, and he’s had a penchant for sailing far too many throws.
Shades of … Jake Locker2. Bryce Petty, Baylor
First-Round Timber Because … he was brilliant as RGIII’s heir, and it was just his first season as a starter. Petty accounted for 46 touchdowns and more than 4,400 yards, while throwing only three picks in his debut as Art Briles’ conductor. And he was dinged up late in the season. Big-armed 6-3, 230-pounders, with his athleticism don’t last past the first round.
Poised to Tumble Because … he still has plenty to learn. Even as a senior, Petty is raw due to a late-blooming career. His mechanics are erratic, and his footwork in the pocket needs to become more consistent. Even more important, the somewhat simplistic system in Waco doesn’t always prepare a young quarterback for the complexities of running an NFL offense.
Shades of … Teddy Bridgewater1. Sean Mannion, Oregon State
First-Round Timber Because … there might not be a more pro-ready quarterback in college than the Beaver senior. The 6-5 Mannion not only possesses the arm talent and nice touch to make all the throws, but he’s also entering his fourth season as a starter. In other words, he’s been tested frequently against top competition, and he’s learned how to master the crucial cerebral side of the position.
Poised to Tumble Because … he’ll have to prove he can bring it from wire-to-wire this season. When Mannion was on in 2013, he was unstoppable over the top. But down the stretch, he raised serious doubts by throwing seven touchdowns and 12 picks over the final five games. Mannion can’t lapse this fall if he plans to be a first-round pick.
Shades of … Matt RyanFuture Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
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NFL QBs of the Future – 2016
By Richard Cirminiello
Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
– Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018The franchise quarterback. The face of an organization. Every team in the NFL craves him, but only a handful are fortunate enough to stake claim to an Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or one of Archie Manning’s boys.
This past May, 14 quarterbacks were selected by NFL teams, including three in the opening round, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel and Teddy Bridgewater. The trio, and even second-rounders Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo, will all be expected to lead their teams into the playoffs at some point in their careers. It’s a part of the unspoken contract that comes with being a high drafted quarterback.
Bortles, Manziel and Bridgewater followed Buffalo’s EJ Manuel as recent quarterbacks selected in Round 1, but who’ll be those future gems that can lift up the hopes of an NFL city? Who’ll be the savior under center in 2015? 2016? How about 2018? It’s clearly early for such an exercise, but no less fun to speculate and debate over the would-be first-round hurlers currently populating college campuses, some of whom recently completed their high school careers.
Making no assumptions about which players will redshirt or leave school with eligibility on the table, here’s a look at future franchise quarterback contenders for the next four NFL Draft cycles:
5. Kevin Hogan, Stanford
First-Round Timber Because … his best football is still ahead of him. Yeah, there’s work to do, but Hogan still has two more years with which to get it done. And by the time he’s through on the Farm, he’ll have logged four years as a Pac-12 starter. The 6-4, 225-pounder can be Tebow-esque as a runner, yet his footwork and anticipation indicate a high ceiling as a dropback passer.
Poised to Tumble Because … his passing skills remain a question mark. This is a big year for Hogan, who failed to have the anticipated growth spurt in 2013. In fact, in games versus teams not named Cal, which was awful on D, he threw just 15 touchdown passes and 10 picks. If he continues to struggle through the air, scouts will label him an average quarterback surrounded by above average teammates.
Shades of … EJ Manuel4. Connor Cook, Michigan State
First-Round Timber Because … he plays with a chip on his shoulder. Cook was revelatory coming off the bench to help lead the Spartans to a Big Ten crown in 2013. And he’s the last guy in East Lansing to be a risk for becoming content or resting on his laurels. Cook has the right makeup and intelligence to lead an organization, and his confidence is soaring compared to a year ago.
Poised to Tumble Because … his accuracy will be under the microscope over the next two seasons. Cook completed less than 59% of his passes in 2013, an area for improvement that the junior has worked during the offseason. Scouts are expecting to see a markedly improved passer, so the bar will be set high for Cook in 2014.
Shades of … Tom Brady3. Jacob Coker, Alabama
First-Round Timber Because … he would had his coming-out party in 2013 had it not been for Jameis Winston. It took a Heisman winner to sideline Coker, who has the arm strength, agility and determination to explode into a household name now that he’s in Tuscaloosa. At 6-5 and 230 pounds, with quick feet, he’ll enjoy a quick ascent now that he’s finally getting a chance to display his skill set.
Poised to Tumble Because … he hasn’t done anything yet. While there’s no shame to sitting behind the likes of EJ Manuel and Winston, Coker has a lot to prove and just two years to do it. On paper, he looks terrific. But now the measurables must translate into on-field success as a member of the toughest division in college football.
Shades of … Joe Flacco2. Brett Hundley, UCLA
First-Round Timber Because … few quarterbacks at this level can boast his combination of size, athletic ability and overall arm talent. The 6-3, 227-pounder ran for 748 yards and 11 scores in 2013, while continuing to evolve as a pocket passer. Hundley also brings a magnetic and positive attitude to the locker room, which will really impress NFL talent evaluators.Poised to Tumble Because … he’s still a little raw as a passer, especially when looking over the top. Much like most young players at the position, Hundley now needs to fine-tune some of the little things in his game, such as his decision-making. In particular, he’ll be working toward a higher degree of accuracy on third downs and a general comfort level reading defenses.
Shades of … Ryan Tannehill1. Marcus Mariota, Oregon
First-Round Timber Because … he’s an amazing athlete, who’s constantly improving as a passer. Mariota will be entering the NFL at a most opportune time, when the league is more accepting than ever of big, mobile quarterbacks. The junior’s wise move to return to school for at least one more year means he’ll be even closer to a finished product when his name gets called.
Poised to Tumble Because … prolific college quarterbacks operating out of high-powered attacks don’t always become elite NFL players. Mariota has work to do in the pocket, such as improving his mechanics and his footwork. And he’ll be battling the ‘system’ label, which will continue to be affixed to Oregon quarterbacks that work out of the zone-read option.
Shades of … Colin KaepernickFuture Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
– Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018 AgamemnonNFL QBs of the Future – 2017
By Richard Cirminiello
Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
– Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018The franchise quarterback. The face of an organization. Every team in the NFL craves him, but only a handful are fortunate enough to stake claim to an Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or one of Archie Manning’s boys.
This past May, 14 quarterbacks were selected by NFL teams, including three in the opening round, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel and Teddy Bridgewater. The trio, and even second-rounders Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo, will all be expected to lead their teams into the playoffs at some point in their careers. It’s a part of the unspoken contract that comes with being a high drafted quarterback.
Bortles, Manziel and Bridgewater followed Buffalo’s EJ Manuel as recent quarterbacks selected in Round 1, but who’ll be those future gems that can lift up the hopes of an NFL city? Who’ll be the savior under center in 2015? 2016? How about 2018? It’s clearly early for such an exercise, but no less fun to speculate and debate over the would-be first-round hurlers currently populating college campuses, some of whom recently completed their high school careers.
Making no assumptions about which players will redshirt or leave school with eligibility on the table, here’s a look at future franchise quarterback contenders for the next four NFL Draft cycles:
5. Trevor Knight, Oklahoma
First-Round Timber Because … his trajectory is pointing decidedly north. Knight steadily flattened the learning curve as a redshirt freshman, capped by a breakout performance versus Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. He’s a smart player, who’s at his best on the move. When Knights gets in space, behind or beyond the line, he can drive defenses crazy.
Poised to Tumble Because … his size is going to be a hurdle in the estimation of some scouts and GMs. Knight is listed at 6-1 and 201 pounds, which likely means he’s just a shade over 6-0. No matter how prolific the college career may be, undersized hurlers often slide. Aaron Murray set a slew of records at Georgia, yet lasted until the fifth round.
Shades of … Matt Flynn4. Shane Morris, Michigan
First-Round Timber Because … he harbors a lot of the characteristics NFL people want in a franchise quarterback. Morris gets maximum RPMs on his throws, and he’s dangerous when containment breaks down. Plus, his mechanics and his feel for the position are advanced for a second-year player. Whether or not Morris can steal reps from Devin Gardner in 2014, he has a great future ahead of him.
Poised to Tumble Because … he’ll have to prove he’s more than just the best all-around athlete on the field. Morris was able to run circles around opponents while at De La Salle (Mich.) High School on physical ability alone. But now he needs to evolve into a more polished quarterback, one who doesn’t force a play if it isn’t there.
Shades of … Andy Dalton3. Will Gardner, Louisville
First-Round Timber Because … a pocket passer with his ability and size, 6-5, is going to flourish under the guidance of Bobby Petrino. Gardner had a bright future when Charlie Strong was his coach, and Teddy Bridgewater was his mentor. Now that Strong is in Austin and Bridgewater is in Minnesota, Gardner, already a captain as a sophomore, is poised to break from the ranks of the anonymous this fall.
Poised to Tumble Because … one breakout spring game means little in the grand scheme of player evaluation. Gardner has limited experience at this level, and now he’ll have to face a higher caliber of competition than Bridgewater did in the American. Gardner’s ability to move the ball against quality defenses will be tested every week over the next three years.
Shades of … Nick Foles2. Jameis Winston, Florida State
First-Round Timber Because … he’s a proven winner. After just one season of action, Winston has already captured a Heisman Trophy and a national championship with the Seminoles. He has terrific size, can make all of the throws and conducts himself with all of the on-field poise and swagger in the clutch of a seasoned veteran. There’s no telling how good he can be with additional reps and coaching.
Poised to Tumble Because … he still needs to grow up. On the field, Winston makes savvy decisions. Away from the field? Not so much. He’s made some high-profile mistakes, like shoplifting crab legs from a Publix in April. If Winston keeps stumbling, some NFL teams could be scared off by his antics.
Shades of … Ben Roethlisberger1. Christian Hackenberg, Penn State
First-Round Timber Because … after one season at this level, he’s close to a perfect example of a budding young franchise quarterback. Hackenberg has it all; the strong arm, the head, the work ethic and the leadership skills to become Penn State’s first sophomore captain in school history. He’s destined for greatness, as the Lions slowly emerge from NCAA probation.
Poised to Tumble Because … he’ll need to polish up his mechanics between now and 2017. Sure, it’s a total splitting of the hairs, but Hackenberg flashes somewhat of an unconventional three-quarter delivery that should be fine-tuned in the coming years. And he’ll no longer have Bill O’Brien—or a veteran O-line—to provide support during this phase of his development.
Shades of … Carson Palmerhttp://cfn.scout.com/2/1435862.html
AgamemnonNFL QBs of the Future – 2018
By Richard Cirminiello
Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
– Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018The franchise quarterback. The face of an organization. Every team in the NFL craves him, but only a handful are fortunate enough to stake claim to an Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or one of Archie Manning’s boys.
This past May, 14 quarterbacks were selected by NFL teams, including three in the opening round, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel and Teddy Bridgewater. The trio, and even second-rounders Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo, will all be expected to lead their teams into the playoffs at some point in their careers. It’s a part of the unspoken contract that comes with being a high drafted quarterback.
Bortles, Manziel and Bridgewater followed Buffalo’s EJ Manuel as recent quarterbacks selected in Round 1, but who’ll be those future gems that can lift up the hopes of an NFL city? Who’ll be the savior under center in 2015? 2016? How about 2018? It’s clearly early for such an exercise, but no less fun to speculate and debate over the would-be first-round hurlers currently populating college campuses, some of whom recently completed their high school careers.
Making no assumptions about which players will redshirt or leave school with eligibility on the table, here’s a look at future franchise quarterback contenders for the next four NFL Draft cycles:
5. Drew Barker, Kentucky
First-Round Timber Because … he possesses the total package to become a successful quarterback. The 6-3, 216-pound Barker has good size, underrated mobility and a very quick release … and he’s just a few months removed from high school. Before he’s through, he’ll get a lot of snaps in Lexington facing some of the best competition in the country.
Poised to Tumble Because … lining up behind center for the Wildcats can be a humbling and exhausting experience. Sure, Mark Stoops and the staff are raising the talent level in the Commonwealth, but Kentucky will remain a step behind the SEC powerbrokers. By the time Barker is done in Lexington, his psyche—and his body—might be battered.
Shades of … Blake Bortles4. Kyle Allen, Texas A&M
First-Round Timber Because … he’s a playmaker operating in an offense that’ll make sure he maximizes all of his potential – if and when he can get the starting job. No, Allen isn’t the second-coming of Johnny Manziel in College Station. Instead, he’s a deft distributor, who can deliver the ball accurately inside or outside the confines of the pocket. The accurate Allen is tough to stop once he gets on a roll.
Poised to Tumble Because … he won’t be the most physically imposing quarterback of his draft class, and he lost out to Kenny Hill. Allen has average size, and he’s more of a finesse passer than a fastball pitcher. Think Boise State quarterbacks, with a better all-around talent base. Aggie quarterbacks, by their nature and their training, are not going to be a perfect fit for every system in the NFL.
Shades of … Alex Smith3. Brandon Harris, LSU
First-Round Timber Because … it takes a special very special true freshman to compete for the starting quarterback job at a premier program like LSU. And Harris is special, both in terms of his physical ability and his uncommon maturity. He’s a pass-first dual-threat, with the elusiveness, passing velocity and overall arm talent to vex defenses in and out of the pocket.
Poised to Tumble Because … he’s raw as a passer, and he’ll need to add considerable weight to a lanky 6-3 frame. After schooling high school defenders in Louisiana on physical ability alone, Harris must prove he can develop into a complete player. He’ll also have to bulk up after arriving in Baton Rouge well south of 200 pounds.
Shades of … Cam Newton2. Deshaun Watson, Clemson
First-Round Timber Because … the Tigers have no hesitation about using him as a rookie. Cole Stoudt may be the Clemson starter, but Clemson is eager to break the seal on Watson, one of the blue-chip quarterback recruits of the latest signing class. Watson has total package potential, including the intangibles of a bona fide field general.
Poised to Tumble Because … he lacks the ideal strength and bulk to withstand the punishment of the ACC, let alone the NFL. Watson is long and lean, which could present problems, much the way it did at times for former Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater. Chad Morris’ fast-paced spread will create a next-level adjustment for all of his pupils. See sixth-round pick Tajh Boyd.
Shades of … Charlie Ward1. Max Browne, USC
First-Round Timber Because … NFL scouts love 6-5 hurlers who can make all the throws. Browne is a prototypical next-level pocket passer, standing tall in a crowd before effortlessly unleashing the ball to his receiver. The nation’s top-rated quarterback recruit of 2013 also has an advanced football IQ and the fundamentals of a more seasoned performer.
Poised to Tumble Because … he might have to wait until 2016 to start getting significant reps. Browne may have the highest ceiling at Troy, but he remains behind the more polished, yet less physically-imposing, Cody Kessler. And he could remain there through next season. While Browne certainly looks the part, there’s room for growth in his decision-making, reads and anticipation of his throws.
Shades of … Eli Manning
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Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
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short contracts. Interesting.
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vDemoff is protecting the cap for the future. Starting in 2016 the Washington trade bonanza players start coming in for new contracts. In fact, next year we will have over 20 players that will need new contracts. We won’t be able to keep them all.
AgamemnonThe 20 of course includes Foles and a potential 19 M (avg. a year) contract.
What you say also suggests that this is the year to target WR and DT in addition to OL. Better to have cheaper rookies for the future.
I never target specific positions. In free agency, it is all about value. In the draft it is all about talent. Everything else is considered after that. You know, like out of group of players, if they are close who best fits.
AgamemnonIf I was going by need, it would be QB, OL, LB. In a lower class it is CB and WR and DT. Then I would look at the numbers in each position. I fill any left over “needs” with a whole pile of UDFAs and minimum salary vets etc. etc. I have enough starters in DT and WR so it isn’t a real fix now need. I could see looking a bit harder for a CB than WR or DT under the criteria we are discussing.
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AgamemnonSo who are they likely to Lose/jettison ?
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vIt is hard to say at this time. Most of that will be determined by how they perform this year. The point that I was making is that it does no good to over extend your resources this year and in doing that limit what you need to do next year. And that this year was easy, next year it will be harder to do everything that you might want to do.
AgamemnonFisher wants to win now. So a late first round draft pick for Bradford wouldn’t do and no team is insane enough to trade two first round picks for Bradford. This trade gets him a proven QB and draft picks. It also frees up a lot of cap space. Can’t fault anything with this trade unless you dislike Foles and he was the best that was offered. Fisher and Snead were not willing to risk another season and another $13 million on Bradford so this trade is the best option to improve now and build for the future. Bradford’s role in this trade should not be overlooked. He was unwilling to take a pay cut and still is doubtful to start the season. Fisher and Snead were forced into this trade.
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The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
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To me, these are the tough calls. The rest are canon fodder, except perhaps for Zeurlein who, as a kicker, is affordable if they want him.
I figure they will have to choose between the 2 CBs and the 2 DTs.
E.g. DT: can Brockers step up a level? Can Fairley play consistently and prove he’s worth a big deal? If he does this, is he affordable? Which of the 2 will they want to keep?
CB: I can’t see keeping both JJ and TJ. Can JJ stop blowing plays and assert his big play potential? Can TJ play solidly all the time rather than occasionally? Actually, both could be casualties if the youngsters step up.
Hayes? Probably gone. Cap casualty. Which would be a tragedy.
Foles? Impossible to tell. How does he play? Whom do we draft? If we don’t draft a damn good-looking QB and Foles plays at least solidly, then I think they re-sign him for continuity. Maybe during the year. But this is impossible to call, given his 1-year deal.
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Normally, a starting qb up for his 2nd contract will get around the avg. for that kind of deal, which is 19 M give or take. (Wilson will probably raise the average).
However, Foles really didn’t finish the last 2 seasons. Is that a factor? IMO, not really. Maybe they do an incentive-heavy deal, like Kaepernick.
Then the question is this.
Do you pay Foles around 19 M?
That will depend on the season, right? Cause 2 things could happen. He plays well enough that you consider him your starting qb going forward. In which case–it’s around 19 M or he walks. Or he does not play well enough to earn that kinda dinero, in which case, yes he’s cheaper but do you want him to be your starter.
Some might say, well, if he doesn’t play well enough, just pay him less.
Problem is, there is a chance someone out there still likes him as a starter and therefore is willing to pay more.
Which is okay, depending on whether you want him, but it does mean you have no qb except Keenum and a rookie if you draft one.
I suppose they could trade Foles for… someone.
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