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December 5, 2015 at 10:09 pm #35138znModerator
Owners in wait-and-see mode on L.A.
Mike Florio
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/05/owners-in-wait-and-see-mode-on-l-a/
Soon, the NFL will attempt to fill the 20-year-old Los Angeles vacancy. For now, no one really knows how it will play out.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, it remains too early to know what will happen after, as expected, Chargers owner Dean Spanos, Rams owner Stan Kroenke, and Raiders owner Mark Davis apply for permission to move to Los Angeles. A handful of owners have an agenda that favors one outcome, a handful of owners have an agenda that favors another outcome. Most, according to the source, are still waiting for all of the information.
At the recent ownership meeting, the process consisted primarily of going around the room, allowing the assembled owners to give their opinions. One source described it as a “waste of time.” From the perspective of the the Commissioner and the members on the Committee on Los Angeles Opportunities, it’s a potentially important part of the effort to build a final consensus; by listening to each of the opinions expressed, the powers-that-be will be better equipped to separate the owners into the various camps, in order to eventually determine who will need to be nudged in which direction as the final effort to cultivate 24 votes approaches. Also, the formal effort to give everyone a voice will prevent someone from later claiming that they didn’t get a fair chance to express their views.
The consensus-building and temperature-taking will continue behind closed doors over the next month or so, with the goal of knowing exactly how many votes will favor which outcome before the January 12-13 meeting starts. A key component will be the final recommendation of the Committee, which surely will be influenced in part by the question of whether enough votes can be harvested in support of the Committee’s preferred alternative.
It’s strange to think that, barely a month away from the effort to select an L.A. solution, no one knows what the solution will be. There’s a chance no one will know what it is until the owners get in a room together and hash it all out.
There’s also a chance that, when the time comes to get in a room together and hash it all out, it will be impossible to get to 24 votes. For now, that’s a scenario that the league will worry about if/when it happens.
December 6, 2015 at 8:48 am #35141PA RamParticipantI have to believe that this will swing one way or another. Someone will break and one of the plans will win the day.
So let’s say it’s the Rams. How pissed off will Spanos and Davis be? Will they try to go to court? Can they go to court? Will they both go rogue and move giving L.A. three teams?
Or if it happens that they win what will Stan do? It’s clear he doesn’t want to be in St. Louis. London? Can you imagine cheering for the London Rams? Or would they even be called the Rams anymore? Maybe they’d be the London Queens–er, or the London Rippers, er…or well–I don’t know what they’d be called but that’s my worst nightmare, really. I fear one day that the Rams could go the way of the Oilers. New place–if it’s other than L.A. or St. Louis and especially if it’s London.
These are things that keep me awake at night pondering life’s big thoughts.
Anyway–the bottom line is that the Raiders are screwing this up. If they back away quietly into the shadows than the Rams and Chargers can both have L.A. and everyone will be happy—except St. Louis unless they get the Raiders and then they might be happy with the trade.
There are only two chairs. When will the music stop?
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
December 6, 2015 at 9:02 am #35143PA RamParticipantIan Rapoport @RapSheet 39m39 minutes ago
News on Carson Project: A 200-acre plot some thought would be available for parking/development— Links at Victoria Park — now not available.Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 38m38 minutes ago
The #Chargers/#Raiders plan in Carson may now be a bit smaller than some imagined, though the golf course wasn’t in their “core” plan.Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 37m37 minutes ago
Carmen Policy, Carson’s advocate, told me: “We have our core piece of land, we don’t need anything else.” To look elsewhere for development"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
December 6, 2015 at 9:23 am #35146znModeratorIt’s clear he doesn’t want to be in St. Louis.
I don;’t think that’s a factor at all. There’s no evidence of “St. Louis is not an option.” It just looks like he wants to be this big owner with the fabulous LA property. That doesn’t mean he would not accept St. Louis at all if things didn’t play out for LA.
December 6, 2015 at 10:07 am #35151PA RamParticipantIt’s clear he doesn’t want to be in St. Louis.
I don;’t think that’s a factor at all. There’s no evidence of “St. Louis is not an option.” It just looks like he wants to be this big owner with the fabulous LA property. That doesn’t mean he would not accept St. Louis at all if things didn’t play out for LA.
That could be true–but why would he, if that’s the case, seem so cold to the reporters and fans of the city? Wouldn’t you want to NOT quite burn that bridge if there was a chance you could be back, or if you were seriously committed to the city? I think the fans of St. Louis would love to hear from him–not just Demoff, but from HIM.
And St. Louis is making an effort.
He doesn’t seem to be encouraging that.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
December 6, 2015 at 11:19 am #35154ZooeyModeratorIan Rapoport @RapSheet 39m39 minutes ago
News on Carson Project: A 200-acre plot some thought would be available for parking/development— Links at Victoria Park — now not available.Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 38m38 minutes ago
The #Chargers/#Raiders plan in Carson may now be a bit smaller than some imagined, though the golf course wasn’t in their “core” plan.Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 37m37 minutes ago
Carmen Policy, Carson’s advocate, told me: “We have our core piece of land, we don’t need anything else.” To look elsewhere for developmentMaybe. But it doesn’t help. Not in a situation that’s very much up in the air, and owners are going to have to pick up every shard of glass and look at it from every angle to find reasons to back one plan over the other.
December 6, 2015 at 11:22 am #35155ZooeyModeratorIt’s clear he doesn’t want to be in St. Louis.
I don;’t think that’s a factor at all. There’s no evidence of “St. Louis is not an option.” It just looks like he wants to be this big owner with the fabulous LA property. That doesn’t mean he would not accept St. Louis at all if things didn’t play out for LA.
I wonder. Because he is clearly “all in” on Los Angeles. Kroenke is accustomed to getting his way, and it would be interesting to see what he will do if the LA move is blocked. The man must have a Plan B. Right now, St. Louis doesn’t look like Plan B, but then, Kroenke is famous for keeping private.
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