Fisher's won-lost record

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  • #13563
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    Fisher is a .462 Coach
    For the first half of the season spanning over his entire 20 years.

    Why should that be. when his overall record is .542.
    Statistically that’s significant.

    Is he poor at planning pre-season or having his teams prepared?
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    #13565
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    Twice in Fisher’s coaching career, its taken him
    Four+ years, to build a winner.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Fisher

    (Not counting his 94 team where he came
    in halfway thru the season),
    In the 90’s it took him FIVE years to build a Winner:

    95 he was 7-9
    96 – 8-8
    97 – 8-8
    98 – 8-8
    99- 13-3

    and then in the 2000’s it took him
    Four years:
    2004 5-11
    2005 4-12
    2006 8-8
    2007 10-6
    (2008 -13-3 )

    With the Rams its been
    2012 -7-8-1
    2013 7-9
    2014 (6-7)
    2015

    Jeff Fisher has never had
    three winning seasons in a Row.

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    • This reply was modified 9 years, 11 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    #13570
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    I agree that these are significant trends.

    I do think he struggles to start years well.

    And the slow build-ups to winning teams … Hmmmmm

    I think Fish has virtues as a coach. But he is overrated, IMO. He is not a great coach, and he has weaknesses that hurt.

    By virtue of the absurd ...

    #13575
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    We’ve been through this before. I’ve posted about how Fisher’s Titans teams get boiled down to their raw averages, when in fact, they tend to peak for a few years then valley then peak again.

    Using raw averages without context always distorts things.

    So for example, is he a .462 coach to start a season?

    Not if you look.

    What about their 1st 4 games, every season?

    1995. 2-2 to start, 7-9 season.
    1996. 2-2 to start, 8-8 season.
    1997. 1-3 to start, 8-8 season.
    1998. 1-3 to start, 8-8 season.

    1999. 3-1 to start, 13-3 season.
    2000. 3-1 to start, 13-3 season.
    2001. 1-3 to start, 7-9 season.
    2002. 1-3 to start, 11-5 season.
    2003. 3-1 to start, 12-4 season.

    2004. 1-3 to start, 5-11 season.
    2005. 1-3 to start, 4-12 season.
    2006. 0-4 to start, 8-8 season.

    2007. 3-1 to start, 10-6 season.
    2008. 4-0 to start, 13-3 season

    2009. 0-4 to start, 8-8 season.
    2010. 2-2 to start, 6-10 season.

    When his team peaks (1999-2003 & 2007-8) his avg. record in the first 4 games is 2.6 to 1.4, or 65%, not 46%.

    Should it take less time that 4 years to get a team up and winning?

    Well once he did it in 4, and once he did it in 3.

    This time he seems to be doing it in 4.

    Does that to me really question him as a head coach?

    No. It took Noll 4. Shrug.

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