Fisher 6-4-1

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May 5, 2015 at 8:17 pm #24152

wv
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The role of “key injuries” in the NFL cant be
over-stated, i would think.
Its right up there with
“Coaching,”
“Playmakers,”
and “Personnel Evaluation.”

Zn makes this point in the excerpt
below:
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“…What is their record when they had the following three things:
a healthy starting qb (not a back-up caliber qb), a relatively healthy OL, and a running threat?
That’s easy to calculate because it covers only 11 games out of 48.
Their record in that stretch is 6-4-1. Counting a tie as 0.5, that’s a 59% winning percentage.
The rest of the time? Their record is 14-23. That’s (roughly) a 38% winning percentage.”
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Basically i think you could say that about
any, but the worst teams — If they have their
key players healthy (RB, OLine, QB) — they
can compete.

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May 5, 2015 at 8:31 pm #24156

bnw
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Healthy teams win isn’t an earth shaking observation.

The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

Sprinkles are for winners.

May 5, 2015 at 9:01 pm #24160

wv
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bnw wrote:

Healthy teams win isn’t an earth shaking observation.

True, but the notion that Unhealthy teams lose,
sometimes gets minimized. Maybe. Yes? No?

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May 5, 2015 at 9:32 pm #24163

zn
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wv wrote:

True, but the notion that Unhealthy teams lose,
sometimes gets minimized. Maybe. Yes? No?

I think there are some…and I encounter them…who do not accept the idea that if your OL isn’t at least RELATIVELY healthy, you can’t play.

There are some near exceptions, but circumstances always explain them.

But I think we all agree that if Foles can play, that he is the qb we hope, then we DON’T want him playing behind an extensively injured OL without a valid running threat.

Yet…precisely that has happened in the last 3 years.

The “no running threat” thing was just 4 games.

But the OL was an extensively injured mess (not relatively healthy, as in with just 1 or 2 replacements, but extensively injured) for a lot of long stretches there. The first 8 games of 2012, the last game of 2013, and pretty much, in different ways at different times, all of 2014.

What;’s the record in games where they have a relatively healthy OL AND a running threat, regardless of the qb? Unlike my previous calculus, which counted the qb, that’s 19 games. In those games their record is 10-8-1 (55%) even though in 8 of them Clemens is the qb. In the other 29 games, their record is 10-19 (34%), regardless of the qb.

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May 5, 2015 at 9:40 pm #24166

bnw
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wv wrote:

bnw wrote:

Healthy teams win isn’t an earth shaking observation.

True, but the notion that Unhealthy teams lose,
sometimes gets minimized. Maybe. Yes? No?

w
v

Yes, I agree.

The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

Sprinkles are for winners.

May 6, 2015 at 1:57 pm #24188
joemad
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i think that’s why strength and conditioning coaches and equipment managers are important……….sure, you get freak injuries like Sam did, but being in condition to grind out late season wins in the 4th quarter while remaining healthy is huge…….
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May 6, 2015 at 7:03 pm #24213

bnw
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joemad wrote:

i think that’s why strength and conditioning coaches and equipment managers are important……….sure, you get freak injuries like Sam did, but being in condition to grind out late season wins in the 4th quarter while remaining healthy is huge…….

For football players most positions, yes. Baseball players, no. Someday MLB ownership will wake up and realize the obvious.

The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

Sprinkles are for winners.

May 6, 2015 at 9:42 pm #24220

zn
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wv wrote:

Their record in that stretch is 6-4-1. Counting a tie as 0.5, that’s a 59% winning percentage.
The rest of the time? Their record is 14-23. That’s (roughly) a 38% winning percentage.”

I should add that with all 48 games, 59% would be 28-20, or 2 9-7s and a 10-6.

Then we could talk about firing Fisher for not making the playoffs.

Or, firing him for not winning enough in the playoffs.

Or, firing him for not winning enough superbowls.

But I get ahead of myself here…….

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