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December 29, 2015 at 7:32 pm #36274znModerator
Coach Chip Kelly released by Philadelphia Eagles
ESPN.com news services
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14462075/chip-kelly-released-philadelphia-eagles
The Philadelphia Eagles announced they have released head coach Chip Kelly.
“We appreciate all the contributions that Chip Kelly made and wish him every success going forward,” owner Jeffrey Lurie said in a statement released by the team on Tuesday.
Pat Shurmur will take over as interim head coach for Sunday’s Week 17 finale against the New York Giants.
December 29, 2015 at 7:46 pm #36275wvParticipantHe won more games than Fisher.
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vDecember 29, 2015 at 7:53 pm #36276znModeratorHe won more games than Fisher.
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vWhich may mean, the # of games won or lost is not the key reason for firing or not firing a coach.
Word is, the players didn’t like playing for Kelly. They didn’t like playing in his system.
Compare that to the Rams:
CHRIS LONG
(On this team’s resiliency since going 4-8…)
“They aren’t giving participation trophies for this team not quitting. But this team, it’s not what we do. It starts with coach Fish (head coach Jeff Fisher). Coach Fish preaches we’re going to come to work and fight every day. Even when the chips are down, that’s when you find out what people are made of. I think we got the right kind of guys in this locker room. It’s on purpose. It’s no accident we have those guys.. . .This is what football is about. We aren’t going to playoffs, but not everybody in this league plays it out to the end and not everybody in this league cares when everybody says there is nothing on the line. This locker room is totally different than that. It’s a blessing to be in this room.”December 29, 2015 at 10:09 pm #36287znModeratorReport: Kelly balked when Lurie asked him to give up personnel
Michael David Smith
Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie recognized that Chip Kelly wasn’t getting the job done as a personnel man, and tried to fix that problem. But Kelly resisted.
Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reports that Lurie has been considering changes to the structure of the Eagles franchise for weeks, and one of those changes Lurie considered was keeping Kelly but stripping him of personnel control. But when Lurie proposed that to Kelly during a recent meeting, Kelly balked at the idea.
When Kelly wouldn’t agree to give up personnel and focus only on coaching, that’s when Lurie decided it just wasn’t working with Kelly. According to Paolantonio, Lurie decided to fire Kelly now, rather than waiting until after Week 17, because he figured it would give the Eagles a jump on attracting some of the best candidates to replace him.
So because Kelly wanted to be both the coach and the head of personnel, he’s now neither.
December 30, 2015 at 10:00 am #36304znModeratorlaram
[re: Kelly’s Eagles offense:] defenses haven’t caught up with squat.
Guys, (slow guys) are still running free in the secondary.
The problem…as with any offense was the pieces.
O-line is old and broke down, D’marco Murray bad fit, no consistent running game, no deep threat on the outside. Too many dropped passes and breakdowns.
December 30, 2015 at 11:12 am #36309JackPMillerParticipantChip Kelly will be the new Head Coach of the Tennessee Titans. Just a guess.
December 30, 2015 at 6:39 pm #36332znModeratorChip Kelly needs to self-evaluate after shocking dismissal from Eagles
No matter how poorly Chip Kelly was performing, no matter what you thought of his personnel decisions or management style or the direction in which the Philadelphia Eagles were trending, firing a coach on a Tuesday night with one game left in the season is shocking. It speaks to a deep personal divide between team and individual. It is, at its core, very personal.
It’s a bold move by Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie, and such a decision is, as several people who know him put it, “totally out of character.” To do so less than a year after casting general manager Howie Roseman in a different role and handing full autonomy over the organization to Kelly makes the reversal all the more stunning. Had Kelly been fired next Tuesday, I would have been surprised. For it to occur in this fashion, at this time, was such a departure for this organization I had to read the official statement on the team’s website three times before I totally believed it was not a hoax of some sort.
Sure, the team was off the rails. And yes, Kelly the wannabe personnel guy had botched this year about as bad as he possibly could, and he had major issues within the locker room and all over the building, for that matter. But he is not a buffoon. He had won 10 games each of his previous two seasons. He had, by last December, shown Lurie sufficient acumen that he was deemed the man worthy of overhauling the entire organizational paradigm, of altering the entire flow chart of the Eagles, and of bestowing Bill Belichick-ian levels of power upon. He was, in Lurie’s own estimation, the man to take the franchise “from good to great,” and now, just 15 games later, he is no longer wanted in the team facility.
There were monumental failures since then, without a doubt. After already alienating many around him, and discarding DeSean Jackson and Evan Mathis and others, and then shipping out LeSean McCoy and trading for and empowering Sam Bradford and whiffing on his reshaping of the offensive line and losing Jeremy Maclin and paying Byron Maxwell like a top-five corner … well, I could go on and on. And his hubris was getting old. And his big brother tendencies of monitoring everything everybody was doing had long worn people out — even some of the very coaches he initially brought in with him.
But still. He didn’t even finish his third season. That’s truly bizarre, even in a league where nothing should really surprise us anymore and where coaches are getting fired in damn near September. I never pegged this for more than a three-year dalliance from the get-go, but for it to end in a terse statement in late December, well, even I wasn’t skeptical enough to have predicted that.
So what else went wrong? Well, Kelly was losing people throughout the building, sources said, even outside of football operations. His autocratic tendencies got the best of him. His allies were few and far between. The idea that DeMarco Murray somehow led this charge is preposterous, I’m told, but in fact Lurie had begun having serious reservations a few weeks ago, when he began reaching out to confidants about how to proceed and began doing research on the pool of potential candidates elsewhere. He started to doubt whether Kelly The Innovative Coach was quite smart enough to overcome Kelly The Personnel Demagogue. Everything having to be Kelly’s way — moving events around to fit his schedule, things having to accommodate him — grew troublesome.
Lurie didn’t go into his meeting with Kelly with the intention of firing him, I’m told. More, it was to take his temperature and continue to feel him out and gather information that would lead to his ultimate decision on what to do with his organization in 2016. Obviously, things went sideways and what Kelly had to say didn’t mesh with the owner’s vision, and Lurie became convinced that for as radical as a Week 17 firing might be perceived, it was time to do it. The fact that Kelly didn’t seem inclined to scratch and claw to remain in his perch, sources said, did him no favors as well.
Thus, the divorce. And one that is anything but amicable, despite whatever parties will say publicly. It’s a bit ironic that within hours of the Jaguars giving a public statement affirming that Gus Bradley will indeed return for 2016, with Bradley a cumulative 12-35 (.255 winning percentage while playing in the woeful AFC South) since arriving, Lurie announced Kelly was fired. Bradley would have been the Eagles hire had Kelly not agreed to come east — after a second pursuit — with permission granted to bring in his own personnel man (Tom Gamble, who lasted two years). And now Kelly, with a 26-21 record, one playoff appearance and two 10-win seasons, has been ousted. The other coaches the Eagles had most recently interviewed were Ken Whisenhunt (fired earlier this season) and Brian Billick, who I don’t believe has interviewed for a job since.
Kelly’s entire system, it seems, has failed. Former coordinator Bill Lazor took it to Miami, where it did not work and Lazor, too, was an in-season casualty about a month before Kelly. The quarterback who Kelly somehow found success with in 2013 — the one season where this offense really did appear possibly revolutionary — Nick Foles, lost his job midseason to Case Keenum despite the Rams trading Bradford for him and rewarding him with a foolish though fairly lucrative contract extension. (I’ve said before and will say it again, the crowning achievement of Kelly’s pro coaching to this point is without a doubt culling a 27-touchdown, two-interception season out of Foles in his first season at the helm).
Perhaps the league has caught up to him, as Kelly’s offense has been middling at best the past two seasons. His hyperspeed approach did leave his defense hanging and his teams did seem to fade in the final quarter of the year. Maybe his approach really is best catered to kids playing 11 games a year rather than pros playing 16. Or maybe he just lacked anything close to sufficient talent to run it (even though he was now hand-picking it, oddly enough).
I tend to think he will not achieve close to the level of success he deems worthy of him until or unless he returns to the college game. And if he were to sit out nine months, he’d have every crooked booster in America beating down the door of his agent, David Dunn. He’d be the man. Instead he’s saying he’s all about this NFL thing, which might just end up being his ego getting the best of him again. The 10-win seasons and all the attention he brings with him will have other owners flirting, though they’d be best to try to get Lurie to speak candidly to them first before they wave contracts Kelly’s way.
I’d venture to say that Chip Kelly needs Marcus Mariota exponentially more than Mariota needs his college coach, and anyone turning over the building to him had best understand exactly what they are getting into. Kelly is going to have a tough time winning over any pro locker room. He’d have to be willing to first truly admit his varied mistakes in Philly and then be willing to actually make significant changes to avoid repeating them. The idea that he will be the next Belichick, who builds a dynasty when given a second chance, may not be wrong, but if it happens it won’t be without considerable self-evaluation.
I have no doubt that someone like Stephen Ross in Miami, perpetually trying to find some big fish to take his money to coach his team, will be enamored, and the idea of Kelly “fixing” Ryan Tannehill will certainly be yapped about in that front office. Browns owner Jimmy Haslam tried like hell to land Kelly three years ago. You could make a case for the Colts or 49ers, too, I suppose. But even without total personnel control — and an owner would have to be wacky to hand that to him now — you are still making a bargain that all of Kelly’s other control — practice schedules, sports science, player monitoring, analytics, weeding out big personalities from the locker room, prizing his own schemes but always criticizing “execution” — actually works as well.
Certainly, he has displayed enough to warrant a second chance. And in a year with so few A-list coaching candidates, and with the Eagles already the third team on an interim coach and Black Monday sure to be ugly next week, there will be some opportunity. Ultimately, however, some approaches just work best in college, and without significant self-scouting and a willingness to reinvent himself at least to some degree, Kelly might find that out again on some December night a few years from now.
December 30, 2015 at 7:21 pm #36334wvParticipant“… started to doubt whether Kelly The Innovative Coach was quite smart enough to overcome Kelly The Personnel Demagogue.”
This will sound familiar
to ram fans.w
vDecember 30, 2015 at 8:38 pm #36339nittany ramModeratorThis will sound familiar
to ram fans.w
vRiiiight…Ray Malavasi.
December 30, 2015 at 8:44 pm #36341znModeratorRiiiight…Ray Malavasi.
Well at least you got the first letter of the name correct.
That’s right. The actual guy is Robinson.
January 1, 2016 at 10:52 am #36421InvaderRamModeratori guess rams win the trade?
ya know i really feel bad for sam. how many different systems is this guy gonna go through?
January 14, 2016 at 1:44 pm #37275PA RamParticipantIan Rapoport @RapSheet 8m8 minutes ago
From the owner RT @JedYork: After a thorough search, Trent & I are thrilled to announce Chip Kelly as the new #HeadCoach of the @49ersNo word yet on if Bradford will follow him.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
January 14, 2016 at 2:54 pm #37279AgamemnonParticipantBradford would fit better in Cleveland. imo
Kelly can use Kaepernick.
Dallas can have hometown hero, Johnny Football.
Philadelphia can draft Goff.
Forgot about RG3. Does any team want him?
February 13, 2016 at 4:52 am #38917znModeratorChip Kelly never got that the Eagles were like a family
Marcus Hayes
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/eagles/?wss=/philly/sports/eagles&id=368548741
TO BE FAIR, Chip Kelly was no monster.
To be honest, Kelly would still be the Eagles’ coach if he had won 10 games in 2015 instead of seven.
To be frank, Kelly was less Captain Bligh than General Patton. Kelly was not maliciously abusive to his players and rebellious to his bosses; he was just uninterested in anything but running the football team, and running it his way.
For a franchise that blossomed under a father figure such as Andy Reid, Kelly’s abruptness and dismissiveness hindered him. When Kelly unseated homegrown favorite Howie Roseman as general manager, he betrayed the sense of togetherness owner Jeffrey Lurie spent 20 years fostering.
That did not make the atmosphere at the NovaCare Center insufferable, just uncomfortable. Every NFL team reflects the essence of its head coach, who presents himself to the public at least four times a week. As such, every head coach is expected to nurture the brand.
Kelly simply refused.
“When all is in harmony, and when everybody is a family, you’ll run through walls for him,” said Don Smolenski, the Eagles’ president.
Nobody was running through walls for Chip Kelly, especially after he built the walls.
Smolenski addressed Kelly’s effect on the franchise at Doug Pederson’s introductory news conference last month. The Eagles hired Pederson after three years of Kelly’s reign. Kelly came to the Eagles with no NFL experience and after only four seasons as a head coach, tucked away at Oregon. He never developed the gift of diplomacy, but he joined an organization that places a premium on diplomacy, especially a conciliator such as Smolenski.
To review: The Eagles in 1998 stole Smolenski from the International Hockey League, where he was a very successful chief financial officer. By 2010, he was the Eagles’ chief operating officer. When Lurie dismissed his buddy Joe Banner in 2012, Smolenski became team president.
By comparison, Roseman is an executive vice president, in charge of football operations. Smolenski reports to Lurie, and Lurie alone. Smolenski is responsible for the team making money. That makes Smolenski very, very important.
Kelly never saw it that way.
Kelly saw the players and the staff not only as his responsibility, but as his fiefdom; his weapon, wielded imperiously. Everything else in the organization existed to serve him and his. His sole responsibility to the franchise: win games.
He did not schmooze sponsors. He did not embrace fans.
He made no effort to make the rest of the NovaCare workforce feel like a part of the process; rather, he made them feel like peons, there to serve at his whim and to be ignored when he had no use for them. Famously, he even forced Lurie to change the date of the Christmas party.
Not long after, Kelly was fired, axed between the 15th and 16th games of the season, and a cloud of oppression rolled away. Sure enough, the Eagles won their finale.
Afterward, a member of Lurie’s inner circle was standing outside the visitor’s locker room at MetLife Stadium. He was asked to describe his relationship with Kelly after three years.
“No complaints. I mean, I can’t even really say we had a relationship,” the executive replied. “What does that tell you?”
It tells you Kelly insulated himself.
Again, if the Eagles had hosted a playoff game last month, none of this would have surfaced, because Kelly would not have been fired. Perhaps if Kelly had not unseated Roseman and/or had not replaced about 45 percent of the Eagles’ frontline players in 2015, Kelly would have survived. But he did overthrow Roseman, and he did gut the roster, and he was fired; so, these sorts of revelations cannot be dismissed.
Current and former players painted Kelly as a hardheaded, bottom-line monomaniac. He ignored players’ suggestions to change the intensity of practice regimens. He ignored coaches’ suggestions to change practice routines, such as practicing fewer plays but practicing them with more repetitions.
And Kelly ignored his duty to cooperate with Smolenski & Co.
“In all sports, I think there’s a misnomer that there’s a football side and a business side. In all sports. It’s one,” Smolenski said. “We all need to be working together, because what might happen on the business side might affect what you can have on the football side.”
The converse is much truer.
“On the flip side, certainly, when you win – a winning record helps the other side,” Smolenski said. “It’s a big, commensurate circle.”
Part of that circle involves providing insight during league-mandated media sessions, which exist to inform the fans. Kelly was willfully deficient concerning that portion of the “commensurate circle.”
To his credit, Kelly usually gave remarkably thorough answers to questions he considered well-presented and relevant. To his detriment, Kelly usually offered petty, trite responses to questions he considered unfair or redundant.
He did not court the press – whether local, where reputations and relationships with the community are built, or national, where often the bills are paid. ESPN might break a lot of news, but it also is paying $15.2 billion to the NFL through 2021 to broadcast games.
There were other issues.
Kelly closed the annual playground build to the press, an event that was one of the Eagles’ more effective public relations gambits. Kelly refused to do a local radio show. Kelly moved training camp from Lehigh University, where the Eagles and their fans had developed a startlingly strong bond.
Kelly never played nice.
The difference was palpable on the day Pederson was hired, as Pederson trudged through interview after interview. He hadn’t even hired his offensive coordinator yet. Smolenski noticed.
“The amount of time Doug has devoted here, just in the last two days, to do this kind of stuff – yes, it’s taking away from other responsibilities,” Smolenski said. “There’s going to be opportunities all throughout the year (like this) . . . and opportunities for fan engagement.”
And opportunities to promote the brand; opportunities to engage the rest of the building. Kelly clearly treated Smolenksi, Roseman, chief financial officer Frank Gumienny and operations VP Jason Miller with a measure of disdain.
“There are so many pieces to it,” Smolenski said. “The experience we have – I have 17 years, Frank has 18 years, Jason has 13 years, Howie has 16 years – there’s all these people we know we can help. We can be a resource.”
Fine. But what about coaching? Drafting? Football?
“I’m not going to ask the head coach to do something that pulls him out of an important draft meeting. I know when the right time is to ask. It’s a balance,” Smolenski said. “You have to respect it. Work with it. There’s balance, right?”
Now there is.
February 24, 2016 at 8:32 am #39504znModerator====
Evan Mathis rips Chip Kelly, his former coach in Philadelphia
After winning his Super Bowl ring with the Denver Broncos, Evan Mathis broke his silence about Chip Kelly, his former coach with the Philadelphia Eagles, Phil Sheridan of ESPN.com reports.
In an email exchange with 9News in Denver, Mathis took shots at Kelly, now the head coach of the San Francisco 49ers.
“There were many things that Chip had done that showed me he wasn’t building a championship team,” Mathis wrote. “Two of the main issues that concerned me were: 1. A never-evolving, vanilla offense that forced our own defense to play higher than normal play counts. 2. His impatience with certain personality types even when they were blue-chip talents.
“The Broncos team I was on would have eaten Chip alive. I don’t think he could have handled the plethora of large personalities.”
Kelly released Mathis last June, just before the Eagles were scheduled to hold a mandatory minicamp. The veteran guard signed with the Broncos, who went on to win Super Bowl 50 over the Carolina Panthers.
With the Broncos, Mathis started 12 regular-season games and three playoff games, including the Super Bowl.
“It is just all part of the story,” Mathis said after the Super Bowl. “Everything that happened is what led me to where I am now. Ultimately, I am thankful for every single thing that happened.”
Mathis, 34, said he was scheduled to have ankle surgery on Wednesday and was unsure whether he would play next season. In his email to 9News, Mathis offered conciliatory words about his former coach.
“I hope Chip learns from his experiences in Philadelphia and grows as a coach,” Mathis wrote. “Maybe he’ll find some constructive criticism from this.”
March 31, 2016 at 7:05 pm #41282znModerator49ers coach Chip Kelly aliented Eagles scouts by rejecting their input, according to report
Coach Chip Kelly has said he’s leaving 49ers personnel decisions to general manager Trent Baalke, and if that’s the case, should have much better relationship with his scouts than he did with the scouting department of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Kelly, according to a NJ.com story Wednesday which anonymously quoted a former member of the Eagles front office, made no friends among the scouts before the 2014 NFL draft.
Right before the draft, the scouts set up the board,” the person said.
Then Chip got a hold of it and totally turned it around. Scouts had no say at all in that draft. Anyone that Chip didn’t want, that player’s got removed from the board and thrown into the trash. Those guys were never even in the discussion.
Almost immediately, you had a lot of scouts looking around and wondering, `Why am I even working? Why the hell are we even here?’ We put all of this work in, put the information in and Chip changed everything and took who he wanted to take.”
In that draft, the Eagles selected Marcus Smith, a Louisville linebacker who has made virtually no impact, with the No. 26 pick in the first round. General manager Howie Roseman has taken responsibility publicly for the selection.
Personally, I had Smith with a third-round grade,” the source said.
That was one of the shockers in the first round, that he went as high as he did.”
Although Kelly’s first draft in 2013 brought in solid picks in tackle Lane Johnson, tight end Zach Ertz and defensive tackle Bennie Logan in the first three rounds, his handling of the draft board led to unrest in the front office.
The source said Kelly believed more in his system than the talent the team was accumulating.
Chip had a rude awakening, thinking that his system was going to win more than the players win,” the source said.
Systems are good. Coaches can get guys to play up to their optimal levels, but you still have to have good players to win.”
Kelly was fired late in the 2015 season. He has rejected all talk of a power struggle with Roseman and said it was owner Jeffrey Lurie who gave him control of personnel.
April 4, 2016 at 11:31 am #41438znModeratorfrom MMQB
Chip Kelly has his hands full in San Francisco
The other day, NJ Advance Media reported that Eagles scouts had it up to herewith Chip Kelly, beginning with his first draft in Philadelphia in 2013. It reminded me that until a coach wins, and wins big, there’s going to be great skepticism, regardless of the coach’s résumé. “Right before that draft, the scouts set the board,” a club official was reported to have said. “Then Chip got a hold of it and totally turned it around. Scouts had no say at all in that draft. Anybody that Chip didn’t want, that player’s card got removed from the board and thrown in the trash. Those guys were never even in the discussion. Almost immediately, you had a lot of scouts looking around and wondering, ‘Why am I even working? Why the hell are we even here?’”
I’m reminded of 2011, when the Patriots had the first pick of day two, No. 33 overall. The scouts, I’m told, were expecting the Patriots to pick one of two front-seven players, Jabaal Sheard or Brooks Reed. Instead, Belichick went with his gut, taking a tall corner with an injury history, Ras-I Dowling. He ended up being a bust. Sheard, particularly, and Reed haven’t been superstars, but they’ve had significantly better careers. Point is, you never heard a peep out of the Patriots, mostly because Belichick earned the right to pick whoever he wanted, with three Super Bowls at the time to his credit. And Kelly will get the skepticism until he wins.
Today, Kelly begins his second try to win in the NFL, after his 26-22 run with the Eagles that ended in his unceremonious firing by Jeffrey Lurie last December. At 8 a.m. Pacific Time today, he’ll get to meet with his players for the first time since being named coach of the team nearly three months ago. I talked to him about the past, and his future—but before the Colin Kaepernick news broke over the weekend.
MMQB: Does part of you feel like you’ve got to prove yourself as an NFL head coach?
Kelly: Not coming after what I’ve just gone through. I don’t look at it like that. I think you want to prove yourself every day. I want to prove myself after my first year, I want to prove myself after my second year, after my third year … I look at it that I landed in heaven and I am really excited to be in San Francisco. The organization is first class and it is about excellence. We’ve won 20 division titles since 1970, six NFC championships, five Super Bowls. You walk down the Bill Walsh Way on the way into the building and you’ll see five Super Bowl trophies in the lobby. It’s an unbelievable organization. How it is set up, the York family, what they do, how they treat people, I was blown away to be able to be part of that.
MMQB: Do you feel battered after the Philadelphia experience?
Kelly: No, not at all. I coach football in the NFL. I have one of the greatest jobs in the world. I don’t think I would ever feel battered.
MMQB: Biggest lesson learned in the NFL so far?
Kelly: Everybody has got to be on the same page.
MMQB: Players, front office, owner?
Kelly: Everybody, really, but it’s really important with the front office.
MMQB: How far away are the Niners from being really good again?
Kelly: I don’t know. The unique thing about the CBA is I feel like I have been there for awhile, but I don’t know our players. [The 2011 Collective Bargaining Agreement mandates that new coaches are not allowed to have significant contact with their players till April, and the NFL’s new coaches have their first contact with players today.] All you are allowed to do is introductory superficial conversations, Hey, how are you doing? So we really don’t know what exactly we have. I mean, I know we have a lot of talented players, but until you work with them …
And I think the landscape changes even in the division, who is adding and subtracting players. You look at the Rams. James Laurinaitis isn’t there anymore, Chris Long isn’t there anymore. But Aaron Donald still is there though. So when you go through it, it will be interesting because in this league so much changes on a yearly basis that looking at film from a year ago and looking at it moving forward, you just go, Wow, it’s changed. And it happens fast. This team three years ago was on the 5-yard line going in at the end of the Super Bowl, that close to winning it all. Three years later, I’m the third coach they’ve had since. You can win the NFC championship one year, then win four games the next year. Things change fast.
MMQB: Cliché question, but I wonder when you look back at what you did at Oregon, and how the pro game is different from the college game, what’s the biggest difference?
Kelly: In the first game of our 2010 season, we beat New Mexico 72-0. No one beats anyone in the NFL 72-0. I think 55 percent of the games last year were decided by seven points or less, 24 percent by three points or less. It’s really intriguing, to be honest. Smaller rosters, obviously. We’d dress 100 guys for home games at Oregon. A lot of that was we used to use dressing for games as kind of a reward for guys who worked hard in the program. But now, with 53-man rosters, and you’re not even dressing all of those, you’ve got to use key starters on special teams. And when you eliminate eight offensive linemen and two quarterbacks and most of your defensive linemen, that means you have a pretty small pool to choose from for all of your special teams. That’s very big.
Then I’d say the talent is the biggest factor after that. It’s so close. You look at college football. There’s a saying that the top teams in the country—Alabama, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin—they win nine games in February [through recruiting]. They pick the players they want. Here, of course, you can’t do that. So you have to find other ways to win. You’ve got to be smart about who you draft, who you develop and how you coach them. That’s the great challenge. I love the challenge of it.
May 14, 2016 at 3:08 pm #44037znModeratorHow not to defend Chip Kelly’s offense
Eric Branch
http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/How-not-to-defend-Chip-Kelly-s-offense-7467548.php
When Chip Kelly has been asked about the burden his up-tempo offense places on his defense – and he’s been asked about it a lot – he’s often offered a thought-provoking rebuttal.
His standard response during his three seasons in Philadelphia (the Eagles ranked last in the NFL time of possession during his tenure): Focus on snaps, not minutes.
In 2013, for example, he referenced a 2010 game against UCLA when he was Oregon’s head coach that neatly captures his argument. UCLA ran just three fewer plays than Oregon (70-73), but had the ball for 18 more minutes (38:31-21:29). Final score: Oregon 60, UCLA 13.
“So all I gathered was that they stand around a lot more (on the field) than we do,” Kelly said. “So I think when people look at the time of possession, and that’s what people look at automatically … It’s not time of possession. It’s plays run is what I look at because you’re not exerting any energy if you’re just standing in the huddle.”
During the rest of his tenure with the Eagles, Kelly hit on the same theme when the topic was broached:
“Time of possession is how much time can the other team waste,” he said in 2013.
“I’m not a time-of-possession guy, I’m a plays-run guy,” he said in December.The question was also raised in January when he was introduced as the 49ers head coach. He outlined a scenario in which his team and its opponent had similar stats, with the exception of time of possession.
“We won the game by seven, but they had the ball for 10 more minutes than we did,” he said. “So all I learned is that they stand around better than we stand around. It’s still plays run.”
Kelly’s stance can be argued, but it’s a worthy and interesting argument.
However, Kelly didn’t stop there in January. Instead, in defending his system, he offered another rebuttal which has nothing to do with whether his offense wears down his defense.
The argument: defensive players like to play defense.
“I’ve also never met a defensive player that says, ‘Coach, I want you to possess the ball for the entire game so I don’t have to play,’” he said. “I want guys that on the defensive side of the football of the San Francisco 49ers can’t wait to get on the field and embrace the opportunity to get out there and play.”
For starters, Kelly has met at least one defensive player that didn’t like to play too much defense.
But that’s not the point here.The point is this: A defensive player’s excitement level about getting on the field has nothing to do with his ability to avoid fatigue if he’s on the field for too many snaps.
So to review: Kelly offered A) a compelling argument and B) a nonsensical argument.
So why bring it up four months later? Because the defensive-players-like-playing-defense argument keeps getting invoked to defend Kelly’s offense:
“I’m not looking at it as getting tired or exhausted. I’ve never, in a thousand years, ever heard (of) someone not want to be on the field,” inside linebacker NaVorro Bowman said in April.
“I think NaVorro said it the best, right? I’ve never met a defensive player that didn’t want to be on the field. Show me one that doesn’t want to be out there,” general manager Trent Baalke said before the draft.
“One of the criticisms has been (on) the defense and they’re on the field too much. And like Bo said — and I agree with him; we kind of laughed — if you’re a defensive player, you want to be on the field,” Baalke said on KNBR after the draft.Baalke has also said of the defense that “what you have what you have to be able to do is get off the field on third down.” But Kelly has acknowledged the onus is on his offense to avoid lightning-quick three-and-outs, which can fatigue even the stoutest defenses.
“If we’re not getting the requisite amount of snaps, then that’s where we’re hurting our defense,” Kelly said in November. “We talk about it all the time: It’s plays run. … It’s really just the production from the offensive side of the ball in terms of what’s giving them an opportunity to wear us down on the defensive side of the ball.”
That echoes Kelly’s best argument: It’s about snaps, not minutes.
And don’t forget this: It’s definitely not about defensive players liking to play defense. -
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