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    Avatar photonittany ram
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    No, but his shirt looks “redder”. Maybe that’s what’s throwing you off.

    Seriously I’ve seen a lot of talk about Goff putting on weight since last season but I can’t see it in any of the photos I’ve seen.

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    No, but his shirt looks “redder”. Maybe that’s what’s throwing you off.

    Seriously I’ve seen a lot of talk about Goff putting on weight since last season but I can’t see it in any of the photos I’ve seen.

    He needs to get stronger. It was a huge factor in Brady’s development. But more important, IMO, is his delivery, his mechanics. He just takes too long to wind up and throw.

    Wish he’d study Peyton Manning, 24/7. Brady’s really good there too. Get the ball up around the ear, then fire, fast. Up fast, fire fast. No towel-whip windups.

    All kinds of reasons why this is essential, but the obvious one is this: It takes the heat off the offensive line trying to protect him. Plus, it gives his receivers an advantage setting up DBs. Plus, it drives great pass-rushers bonkers. Just ask Aaron Donald.

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    He needs to get stronger. It was a huge factor in Brady’s development. But more important, IMO, is his delivery, his mechanics. He just takes too long to wind up and throw.

    Wish he’d study Peyton Manning, 24/7. Brady’s really good there too. Get the ball up around the ear, then fire, fast. Up fast, fire fast. No towel-whip windups.

    All kinds of reasons why this is essential, but the obvious one is this: It takes the heat off the offensive line trying to protect him. Plus, it gives his receivers an advantage setting up DBs. Plus, it drives great pass-rushers bonkers. Just ask Aaron Donald.

    Yeah, I’d like him to get stronger.

    I found stats on time to throw (elapsed time from snap to throw, TT). Goff’s TT was middle of the pack last season. I think his TT may have more to do with his comfort level with reading defenses than with his physique. I think I saw that he had one of the worst passer ratings in the league when having to go to his second read. That, more than any other issue with Goff is the most disturbing to me. If he can’t master his progressions then he really can’t become anything more than a serviceable QB.

    Of course, time to throw might be different than what you’re talking about. You’re probably referring to the time that elapses from the moment a QB decides to throw until the time the ball is out of his hand (quick release?). I can never find any stats for that. For me, Dan Marino was the master of the quick release. Dan was also great at reading defenses, and he wasn’t too bright, so hopefully Goff’s issues with reading defenses are simply a matter of experience and putting in the effort to learn.

    https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw

    #119645
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    You’re probably referring to the time that elapses from the moment a QB decides to throw until the time the ball is out of his hand (quick release?).

    I put together this splendid Goff thread full of top notch articles and vids, and what starts a discussion? One asking to compare pics from 2016 and 2020 to see if he gained weight.

    Anyway in that thread is the answer to your question. Goff has a quick release. Not as quick as Rodgers or Marino, but quicker than Mahomes, Wentz, and Brady. http://theramshuddle.com/topic/goff-talk/

    In terms of reads and progressions, we’ve seen him do it. I can’t say where he would rank at it, but we have seen him do it.

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