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July 23, 2015 at 6:06 pm #27493nittany ramModerator
Sculpture by Pat Lillich
July 23, 2015 at 6:40 pm #27500wvParticipant“The Corpse you dread so much,
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vJuly 23, 2015 at 9:59 pm #27506bnwBlockedWhy is flesh only missing from the head and neck?
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July 23, 2015 at 10:04 pm #27507znModeratorWhy is flesh only missing from the head and neck?
IMO? it;s a “mask” trope. Also it allows for greater contrast. The world of luxuriant beauty, v. skull, plus mask = more contrast. Not the same if it’s just an entire skeleton.
July 24, 2015 at 6:38 am #27511nittany ramModeratorWhy is flesh only missing from the head and neck?
IMO? it;s a “mask” trope. Also it allows for greater contrast. The world of luxuriant beauty, v. skull, plus mask = more contrast. Not the same if it’s just an entire skeleton.
Yeah. I think the sculptor is saying we try to hide the ugliness of our true selves from others and/or what we see is illusion – the reality is hidden, etc…there are a dozen variations of this theme the sculpture could depict.
July 24, 2015 at 12:54 pm #27522bnwBlockedWhy is flesh only missing from the head and neck?
IMO? it;s a “mask” trope. Also it allows for greater contrast. The world of luxuriant beauty, v. skull, plus mask = more contrast. Not the same if it’s just an entire skeleton.
Yeah. I think the sculptor is saying we try to hide the ugliness of our true selves from others and/or what we see is illusion – the reality is hidden, etc…there are a dozen variations of this theme the sculpture could depict.
Sorry but it still doesn’t make any sense. Especially since a mask is used. Everyone has a skull and it isn’t a choice. A mask to hide a skull?
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
July 24, 2015 at 2:35 pm #27526znModeratorSorry but it still doesn’t make any sense. Especially since a mask is used. Everyone has a skull and it isn’t a choice. A mask to hide a skull?
It’s not literal. It’s metaphorical. If flesh is a mask to hide a skull, that means many things…including (among others) that beauty is only a mask hiding our vulnerability and mortality.
July 24, 2015 at 3:48 pm #27530bnwBlockedSorry but it still doesn’t make any sense. Especially since a mask is used. Everyone has a skull and it isn’t a choice. A mask to hide a skull?
It’s not literal. It’s metaphorical. If flesh is a mask to hide a skull, that means many things…including (among others) that beauty is only a mask hiding our vulnerability and mortality.
Huh? Flesh is skin which covers a skull. Do not need a mask.
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The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
July 24, 2015 at 5:41 pm #27534nittany ramModeratorSorry but it still doesn’t make any sense. Especially since a mask is used. Everyone has a skull and it isn’t a choice. A mask to hide a skull?
It’s not literal. It’s metaphorical. If flesh is a mask to hide a skull, that means many things…including (among others) that beauty is only a mask hiding our vulnerability and mortality.
Huh? Flesh is skin which covers a skull. Do not need a mask.
You’re thinking too literally about what the skull and flesh represent. You have to soften the strict and specific definitions of skin, flesh, skull, etc. This sculpture wasn’t meant to be a supplement to a Grey’s Anatomy text. It’s not about the literal meaning of those things. Here’s one interpretation. The skull represents our inner self with all of its ugliness (and mortality and vulnerability as zn said). There are many metaphors that work with the skull. And skulls all look the same. It’s the mask of flesh that gives us a face and therefore the illusion of being different or unique. But inside we all look the same and none of us can escape what we truly are inside.
July 24, 2015 at 8:28 pm #27544bnwBlockedSorry but it still doesn’t make any sense. Especially since a mask is used. Everyone has a skull and it isn’t a choice. A mask to hide a skull?
It’s not literal. It’s metaphorical. If flesh is a mask to hide a skull, that means many things…including (among others) that beauty is only a mask hiding our vulnerability and mortality.
Huh? Flesh is skin which covers a skull. Do not need a mask.
You’re thinking too literally about what the skull and flesh represent. You have to soften the strict and specific definitions of skin, flesh, skull, etc. This sculpture wasn’t meant to be a supplement to a Grey’s Anatomy text. It’s not about the literal meaning of those things. Here’s one interpretation. The skull represents our inner self with all of its ugliness (and mortality and vulnerability as zn said). There are many metaphors that work with the skull. And skulls all look the same. It’s the mask of flesh that gives us a face and therefore the illusion of being different or unique. But inside we all look the same and none of us can escape what we truly are inside.
I see nothing ugly about a skull. To convey what meaning you describe why not eliminate the head altogether holding a mask up to nothing?
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
July 25, 2015 at 12:44 am #27550znModeratorI see nothing ugly about a skull. To convey what meaning you describe why not eliminate the head altogether holding a mask up to nothing?
I don’t personally think that the word “ugly” applies either way, but that’s just me being all “strictly speaking” about it. On the other hand, a skull cannot help but be evocative of death and mortality. If the image was of nothing so not a skull, it would just have an entirely different meaning.
IMO…but also, since the entire image echoes Japanese styles, I think it’s also evokes the geisha figure. The traditional geisha wore thick white makeup with a line left around the hairline to create the effect of a mask. So it’s a kind of ironic geisha.
July 25, 2015 at 4:46 am #27551TSRFParticipant”If you ask me today why I sculpt – I’ll answer its because sculpting a person or feeling helps me understand them – and I can get the most true portrait of them by losing myself in squishing the clay. But tomorrow I’ll tell you that the truth is that i feel most alive when i’m sculpting. And the day after I’ll tell you that I sculpt because I love the connection that happens when people talk to me about one of the figures. So any words I give you today are only good for today…. and when I read them tomorrow I’ll probably cringe and go “wow, what a dork!””
Pat Lillich
July 25, 2015 at 8:50 am #27553wvParticipant”If you ask me today why I sculpt – I’ll answer its because sculpting a person or feeling helps me understand them – and I can get the most true portrait of them by losing myself in squishing the clay. But tomorrow I’ll tell you that the truth is that i feel most alive when i’m sculpting. And the day after I’ll tell you that I sculpt because I love the connection that happens when people talk to me about one of the figures. So any words I give you today are only good for today…. and when I read them tomorrow I’ll probably cringe and go “wow, what a dork!””
Pat Lillich
I like that quote.
I tend to not like quotes about Art where a famous artists starts
a commanding statement with the words: “Art is…”As if art is only one thing, and the artist knows what that is.
Art is a lot of stuff. Always a lot of shit going with Art.w
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Art is the most intense mode of individualism that the world has known.
Oscar WildeOnly through art can we emerge from ourselves and know what another person sees.
Marcel ProustArt is not a thing; it is a way.
Elbert HubbardArt is a harmony parallel with nature.
Paul CezanneAll art is autobiographical. The pearl is the oyster’s autobiography.
Federico FelliniWe have art in order not to die of the truth.
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