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At the risk of losing a friend let me say something profound:
Since I’ve been posting on this board-like for a hundred years-I’ve noticed that 99.9 % of the political criticisms are directed at the democrats. A very, very, tiny number are directed at the Republicans. Might I suggest you and all others here move to the other side of the field?
It’s my observation that – on the web, and probably in real life, too – people notice the stuff they disagree with a lot more than the stuff they agree with. If you think about it, that makes sense for psychological reasons. Stuff that you agree with is unremarkable. Stuff you find objectionable is going to hit you 100% of the time.
And…I have to say, in light of that, I’m glad you still come to the board from time-to-time, W. I am sincere about that. You are a good voice here, and I always read what you have to say with interest.
Meanwhile…I agree with zn.
And I will also add that you will find more criticism of the US than of other countries. That’s not because we HATE the US. It’s because its actions reflect us. We are a part of it. Similarly, although we don’t identify with the Democrats, it’s the party that represents The Left politically. We criticize it because it disappoints us in that respect. The GOP doesn’t disappoint us. It does not stand for us in any way, and we don’t expect it to ever represent us.
But I think that you will find that every person in this forum agrees with Chomsky’s assertion that the GOP is the most dangerous organization in the history of the world. Without question.
Rather than telling me I’m dead wrong you provided a reasonable explanation of what I see.
If you are incorrect about what you claim we say, why would I not say it? You said that more than 99% of our criticism is aimed at the democratic party, and that is literally not correct. I linked whole threads just on this page showing it. And this is coming from someone who has absolutely no hesitation about criticizing the right-centrist democratic party.
You also seem to be saying that criticizing Biden runs the risk of electing Trump. I don’t agree. People here have actually discussed this–again in things you apparently did not read–and the majority here say the important thing is to dis-elect Trump. So my count is that everyone is voting for Biden–and I can tell you that that is the position among most progressives I know out there.
In a sane society, IMO Sanders would be considered in “the center” space of debate, policy, etc. He would be seen as a “centrist.” His call for the Nordic, Social Democratic model, would be seen as “the middle” of the political spectrum, the baseline, the default zone, so to speak. Those on the so-called “far left,” OTOH, would, like Peter Kropotkin, advocate for some form of “libertarian communism,” drawing from even earlier theory and practice such as the Diggers of 17th century Britain. A bit to their right would be “libertarian socialists” and then, perhaps -> democratic socialists -> radicals -> | Bernie | -> (today’s) liberals -> moderates -> conservatives -> tea-partiers -> anarcho-capitalists -> QAnon/Fascists or some such.
Of course, things get confusing out there on the “far left,” as, from my reading, and especially in the 19th century, folks seemed to use terms like anarchist-socialism, anarchist-communism, libertarian-socialism, or just plain socialism (etc.) kinda interchangeably. At least that seemed to be the case with William Morris, Kropotkin and Elisee Reclus, among others.
*The usual caveat: not implying I’m the Mayor of Political Terms, though I am the Master of the Multiverse.
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez@AOC
So @NBCNews how are you going to fix the incredible amount of damage and misinformation that you are now responsible for?Because a 1:15am tweet to slip under the radar after blowing up a totally false and divisive narrative across networks isn’t it.
NBC News@NBCNews
Editor’s note and clarification:This tweet should have included more detail on the nominating process.
We have deleted the tweet to prevent its further spread, but it can be seen here for the record.
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Progressive star Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Tuesday nominated Bernie Sanders for president.Her appearance was a part of the procedure of the convention to give a nod to the person who came in second place in the delegate count, and she was asked to second Sanders’ nomination.
She has previously endorsed Biden and she later congratulated Biden in an explanatory tweet.
“In a time when millions of people in the United States are looking for deep systemic solutions to our crises of mass evictions, unemployment, and lack of health care, and espíritu del pueblo and out of a love for all people, I hereby second the nomination of Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont for president of the United States of America,” she said.
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