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February 16, 2016 at 4:30 pm #39091znModerator
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alyoshamucci
CB pre-combine list 2016
There is a really solid high end and amazing depth at this position this year … if we want to snag a star, we can. If we want to wait and grab depth, we can. If we lose BOTH Tru and Jenks? We’ll still be okay.
I may have missed some guys, and may have guys on here that have disappeared, my lists don;t get super clean until mid-March
Jalen Ramsay I have as a safety, and he’s auditioning for player ZERO this year against Eric Berry.
2016 CB
Top End talent, immediate starters with upside … Bad foot speed could hurt them, good foot speed will not raise them …
UF 1 CB Hargreaves So. 6-1 195 3rd *
Clem 2 rsfCB Mackenzie Alexander 5-11 185 FR. ++, ++
rsSo. Shutdown ++V Tech 11 tfCB Kendall Fuller (fam) 6-1 193 FR. ++
So. *
Jr. *BAMA 5 CB Cyrus Jones 5-10 194 Jr.
Sr. new feet completely new. Excellent techniqueOH ST 13 tfCB Eli Apple 6-0 190 ++, ++
So.Next tier, also immediate starters if necessary … Much more subject to change by postseason workouts.
HOU 3 CB Jackson 6-1 175 So. , , +
185 Jr. $$ good DBs hereUVA 26 CB Canady 6-2 190 So +, -, +++
Jr.
Sr.31 CB Eric Murray 6-0 195 So. ++, + B ++
Jr. hitter like + B ++
Sr. +++ still really like … 2nd round?WVA 7 tfCB Worley 6-2 190 FR. ,, ++
So. sus ind, ++,
Jr. +++, ++BAY 4 CB Xavien Howard 6-2 200 Jr. ++, ++, +++ again, like
MISS St. 23 CB Taveze Calhoun 6-1 185 So. , +, ++, ++++
Jr. +++, ++
Sr. ++MIAMI 1 CB Artie Burns 6-0 200 So. Track star +++
NO IOWA CB Diondre Hall 6-1 192 sr.
SE Louisiana CB Harlan miller 6-0 182
SAMFORD CB Bradberry 6-3 225 Sr. (SAFETY)
MINN 29 CB Boddy-Calhoun 5-11 190 Jr. ++ B ++
Sr.OK 15 CB Zack Sanchez 5-11 180 FR. ,,, + B ++
So. ++
Jr. +++TEM 1 CB Young 5-10 180 Sr. , ++
PUR 9 CB Anthony Brown 5-11 190 Sr. +++ 2 amazing INTs
UF 24 CB Poole 5-10 206 Jr. ++, ++ lookin good
Sr.T A and M 1 tfCB Harris 5-10 165 FR. +
So. +, +, ++, ++ B ++
5-11 175 Jr. ++ fighter, +++, ++ $
190 Sr. ++ This year’s Gaines?— guys to watch for in the postseason … all capable in one way or another.
PSU 10 CB Williams 6-1 188 So. +++, ++, ++
Jr.
Sr. +, ++ meanLSU 21 tfCB Rishard Robinson 6-1 185 ,, +++ next up
6-3 180? So.AZ St. 10 CB Brown 6-0 200 Jr. , ++
Sr. ++, +, ++ trusts his tape, ++ plays like an underdogMISS ST 2 DB Redmond 6-1 205 So.
190 Jr. ++, ++, +++
Sr. ++ (like him better at safety)South miss 11 CB Kalen Reen 5-11 195 Sr. tons of PBU 35 in career ++
Ttech 3 CB JJ Gaines 6-1 187 Sr.
USC 13 CB Seymour 6-0 180 So. B +
Jr. ++, ++ really should have an eye on this kid
Sr. ++ 5thGtech 28 DJ White 5-11 190 Jr. ++ B ++
Sr.MIZZOU 7 CB Dennis 6-1 200 Jr. , ++, +++^$
Sr. + physical, big body CBOK 10 CB Quinten Hayes 6-0 190 Sr. ++, ++$ player
—- Other names to watch
Mch 36 CB Colquhoun 6-1 202 Sr.
.PSU 9 CB Lucas 6-1 198 So. +, ++, +
Jr. ++, ++ tackler B ++
Sr. +, + they stay away from him (SAFETY)NC State 11 rsFR CB Burris 6-1 195 FR. B +
200 So. +++
Jr. ++ B ++
Sr. +, +++TOL 1 CB Cheatham Norrils 6-0 195 Sr. +, ++
Fres ST 28 CB Washington 5-11 197 Jr. ++
Sr.PITT 6 tfCB Pitts 5-11 195 FR. ++ B ++
KR too So.
Jr. +
Sr. late look ++NORTHW 23 CB Van Hoose 6-0 190 Jr. ++
Sr.IOWA St 4 CB Sam Richardson 5-7 182 So. small slot violent +++
Sr.EC 28 CB Josh Hawkins 5-10 186 Jr. ++,, +++ B ++
Sr. +Boise 5 CB Deayon tiny ++
AZ St. 8 CB Carrington 5-11 190 Jr.
Sr. ++ARK 29 CB Jarret Collins 5-11 175 Jr,. ++, ++
Sr. , +, ++AUB Joseph
BALL 5 CB Patterson 5-10 193 Jr. ++ B +++
Sr. ++CO St. ?? 23 CB Blake 6-1 180 Jr.
185 Sr. +, +KEN 3 CB Tiller 6-0 175 So. +
Jr. ++
180 Sr.NEB 28 CB Cockrell 6-0 185 Sr. , ++
NEB 23 CB Daniel Davie 6-1 190 Sr. ++
ND 6 CB K Russell 5-11 190 So. , + B +
OK St. 17 CB Michael hunter 6-1 191 Sr. , +
PUR 24 CB Williams 5-9 190 Jr.
Sr. ++SJ St. 8 tfCB Pruitt 6-1 180 FR. B ++
FS 200 So.
CB Jr. long arms ++
Sr. ConcussionTex 21 CB Duke Thomas 5-11 180 Jr.
Sr. small but fearless +UCLA 1 CB/S Ismael Adams 5-8 185 Jr. ++, ++
Sr. slot CBUVA 1 tfCB Nicholson 5-11 165 FR. , +
-175- So. ++, ++
185 Jr. ++
Sr.UVA 21 CB Phelps 6-1 185 Sr.
WISC 5 CB Hillary 5-`11 187 Jr. ++
Sr. +, ++WVA 16 CB Chestnut 5-10 190 Jr. +
Sr.February 17, 2016 at 1:15 pm #39151znModeratorfrom off the net
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alyoshamucci
DT list pre-combine … deepest position I think.
This class is super deep and has really good quality. In fact until I made this list I had forgotten just how truly deep and high quality it was. I have about 20 players that could come in and compete to start … and that’s at a position that is known for taking time to grow into.
You’ll notice I have Nkemdiche up top even though he’s fallen recently … Ive watched him since his first snap .. he’s leonard Williams level talent and I’m not going to put him lower util I see something that rubs me the wrong way. Also, I have 20 more players than walter’s has listed so a lot of the guys at the bottom should go undrafted.
And again these are preliminary lists, and Im still finding out that some guys are injured, not pursuing football, or I have mislabeled as seniors.
there are guys that I have labeled as DEs like “Zettel” that may cause confusion. If I have them multiple round higher at another position I won’t list them.
16 DT’
Top tier starters …
Ole Miss 5 5 tfDT/DE/RBlol NKemdiche 6-4 300 FR ++, ++
So.ALA 86 DE/DT A’shaun Robnson 6-4 320 So. Wow.
ALA 90 NT J Reed 6-4 315 Jr. jucotrans Jr. +, ++
Sr.BAY 75 tfDT Andrew Billings 6-0 305 FR , +, +++
So. +, ++— High end starters with upside
LOU 98 tfDT Rankins 6-2 290 FR. B +
So.
Jr.
Sr. ++, +MS ST 96 96 tfDT/DE C. Jones 6-5 265 , ++, +++, ++, ++
300 $ So.L Tech 9 DT Butler 6-3 309 Sr.
ND 91 DE/DT Sheldon Day 6-2 290 So.
Jr. + INJ
Sr. could he play outside? Late 1st?— Quality starters and high end rotational guys …
CLEM 48 tfDT Reader 6-2 305 FR. +++ B ++
So. +, ++
325 Jr. +PSU 99 DT Johnson 6-4 313 fr. +, +
Sr. + B ++
323 Jr. +, +, ++ 2nd-3rd-4th round .. 56 tackles leads countryUCLA 97 DT K Clark 6-3 315 So. ++, ++, ++, ++
Jr. ++$ 3rd?NEB 7 DT Collins 6-2 285 FR.
305 So. +, ++ B ++
Jr. $$ ++, +OH St. 92 DT Adolphus Washington 6-2 300 So. +,, ++ B +
Jr. ++, +++, ++
Sr.MCH ST 69 DT Henry 6-3 311 Sr. ++^^
TEX 98 DT Hassan Ridgeway 6-4 307 So. ,, ++
314 Jr. ++NEB 98 tfDT Valentine 6-3 325 FR B ++
So.—- Other big fellas who could grow into quality contributors …
SCAR 92 DT Dixon Jr. 6-3 305 FR. B +
So. ++, ++ B ++
Sr.IND DT Latham 6-5 310 ++
TEM 9 DT Ioniidis 6-4 292 SR.
SE Mizzou Hargrave 6-3 295 Sr.
AZ ST. 94 DE Cherry 6-6 300 Jr. , ++
Sr. Beast ++, +ARK 93 DT Hodge 6-1 340 Sr. +, +
USC 99 DT Woods 6-1 325 FRSHMAN
So. +, +
Jr. ++,, ++
Sr. +, +, + UDFA?Vtech 92 tfDT Maddy 6-1 285 FR. B +
288 So. ++
295 Jr. ++, ++
Sr. +UVA 55 DT David Dean 6-1 295 Jr. +, +++
Sr. +, ++FERRIS ST. DT Zimmer 6-3 303
TCU 57 DT Pierson 6-2 305 FR. , +, ++ B ++
So. ++, +
Jr. +++Utah State 51 DT David Moala 6-2 310 Jr. +
Sr. ++ burst …FSU 99 DT Lawrence-Stample 6-1 314 Jr.
Sr.NC 98 DT Justin Thomason 6-4 285 Jr. seems bigger
295 Sr. ++— the rest to fill out a roster …
KEN DT Melvin Lewis 6-4 320
JAX St. DT Sigler ?
BC DT Wujciak
GilMore?
ALA 95 DT Lake 6-3 323 Jr. +
Sr.Wst. 97 DE Vaeao 6-4 290 So. ,++
Jr. +
298 Sr. ++, ++Akron 9 DT Rodney Coe 6-3 305 Sr. (Iowa st. trans) Athletic kid
AZ St. 98 DT Latu 6-3 384 Jr. +
370 Sr.CAL 90 DT Jalil 6-3 295 Jr. +++
6-4 315 Sr. Where is he?FSU 11 DT Mitchell 6-4 303 Jr. ++, +
Sr.UGA Mayes
No TEX 97 DT Abbe 6-4 319 Sr.
OH 34 DT Tautuiaki 6-2 290 So. +
304 Sr.OL MISS 56 DT Hamilton 6-3 319 Sr. ++, ++
PSU 91 DT Barney 6-1 306 Sr.
SYR 50 DT John Raymon 6-5 310 Sr. +, +
TEM 72 DT Walton 6-4 313 Sr.
TENN 58 DT Williams 6-2 290 Jr. ++
Sr. ++T A and M 83 tf DE A Williams 6-4 280
So. , ++, +, +
Jr. ++
305 Sr. ?? where is he?Ttech 33 DT Levi 6-2 367 Jr.
338 Sr.TEX 99 DT Jackson 6-1 280 FR. B +
303 So. ++,, ++ B +
Jr. , ++, +++
SR. ++TUL 93 DT Masonbuko 6-3 295 Sr. ++
UNLV 68 DT Fakuaho 6-2 330 Sr. +
WAKE 36 DT Tyler Harris 6-4 305 Sr. ++
WVA 93 NT Rose 6-4 294 Jr. , +
294 Sr.February 20, 2016 at 12:01 pm #39347Eternal RamnationParticipantFebruary 20, 2016 at 4:15 pm #39363AgamemnonParticipantJaylon Smith, OLB
School: Notre Dame | Conference: FBS Independents
College Experience: Junior | Hometown: Fort Wayne, IN
Height/Weight: 6-3 / 240 lbs.
Projected Ranking
Overall Position Proj. Rnd.
20 3 1Player Overview
Smith’s draft stock took a hit on New Year’s Day when he tore his anterior cruciate ligament and lateral collateral ligament in the Fighting Irish’s Fiesta Bowl loss to the Ohio State Buckeyes, but still he opted to declare early for the 2016 NFL Draft. He is recovering after surgery and expected to miss the 2016 season, but still has an immense skill-set that will have teams considering him in the first round.A player who Irish coach Brian Kelly said is the best he has ever coached, Smith was a consensus All-American in 2015. He tied his career high with 9.0 tackles for loss to go along with a career-high 115 tackles, a sack, five passes defensed and two fumble recoveries in 13 games before suffering his knee injury. That came on the heels of 111 tackles, 9.0 tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks and a pair of passes defensed as a sophomore.
Smith is a freakish athlete who makes plays on the football field that few others at the college level are capable of making. He has the range, instincts and competitive drive that makes him a highly sought after NFL prospect.
Notre Dame’s top tackler from 2014, Smith made most of the defensive calls as a true sophomore and separated himself as one of the top NFL prospects in the country.
Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: He is a greased up athlete with natural twitch and flexibility, showing balance, burst and excellent speed in pursuit. Scouts are enthralled with Smith’s explosiveness and it isn’t difficult to understand why.He reads plays quickly and keeps his eyes glued on the ball to collect himself in space and burst toward the ballcarrier with excellent closing speed. Shows tremendous secondary quickness to unhook himself from blocks and make up ground in a flash.
He might be the nation’s most forceful tackler, generating incredible power to knock ballcarriers back. Smith is every bit as fast and fluid as he is powerful, however, slipping by (or leaping over) would-be blockers in the running game and dropping effectively in coverage.
It is the ability to play back in coverage and rush the passer that makes Smith such an exciting prospect, as proponents of the 4-3 and 3-4, alike, will see him as a true three down defender.
WEAKNESSES: Smith lacks elite take-on strength for the position and can be late to stack-and-shed. Will take some false steps and needs to add a dash of discipline to his playing recipe. Needs to tweak his strike zone and tackling mechanics, preferring to hug-and-slam instead of spearing and driving.
Needs to do a better job finding the ball in coverage once his back is turned to the quarterback. Suffered a devastating left knee injury in his final collegiate contest that required surgery (Jan. 2016) to repair a torn ACL and LCL.
IN OUR VIEW: In today’s ultra-specialized NFL, defenses routinely substitute powerful linebackers on running downs and faster, more agile defenders on obvious passing plays. Teams won’t have to swap Smith out, however. He started all 39 games the last three seasons, but in a cruel twist of fate, Smith suffered a serious knee injury in the Fiesta Bowl, putting his draft stock in limbo based on his rehab.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2082844/jaylon-smith
If I really wanted the best MLB I could get, I would draft this guy, Jaylon Smith. Like Gurley though, he wouldn’t be ready to start year one. You might even have to red shirt him a year.
February 20, 2016 at 4:28 pm #39365InvaderRamModeratorif the rams can’t re-sign barron, one guy who sounds like he could replace him is su’a cravens. hybrid s/lb type. playmaker.
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February 28, 2016 at 4:39 pm #39755znModeratorNFLDraftScout.com
2016 NFL Combine: Five takeaways from defensive line drills
Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com
With all due respect to the quarterbacks and the rest of the “skill position” talent testing this week at the 2016 NFL Scouting Combine, the truly exceptional talent in this year’s class lies along the defensive line as workouts Sunday reinforced.
NFL COMBINE
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With a combine-high 64 prospects at the position working out, there was quality and quantity for scouts to evaluate with projected first-round prospects like Emmanuel Ogbah (Oklahoma State) and Robert Nkemdiche (Mississippi) showing off the same explosiveness we’d seen on tape.Each, in fact, proved more explosive in drills than NFLDraftScout.com’s No. 1 overall rated prospect Joey Bosa, who was solid if unspectacular with a 4.86-second 40-yard dash, 24 repetitions of 225 pounds and a 32-inch vertical jump.
In an interview with the NFL Network following the drills, Bosa characterized his 40-yard dash time as “disappointing,” but scouts may not feel the same way. Raw athleticism isn’t the attribute scouts like most about the Buckeyes’ star. Rather, it’s his use of hands, core power, awareness and versatility that make the 6-foot-5, 269-pounder the most pro-ready prospect in this class.
Here are the “other” takeaways from a busy Sunday at the combine.
Gaga over Ogbah. No one was better than Ogbah, which perhaps isn’t surprising given that the former Oklahoma State star is the two-time reigning Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year. The native of Nigeria finished second among his position in the 40-yard dash (4.63 seconds), tied for second in the vertical jump (35.5 inches) and third in the broad jump (10 feet, 1 inch). Though his 20 repetitions of 225 pounds certainly weren’t as eye-popping as the 32 posted by fellow defensive end Robert Blair of Appalachian State, the number is respectable given Ogbah’s 35 1/2-inch arms.
Tapper tops among defensive linemen in the 40. While his former Big 12 rival Ogbah enjoyed the better all-around workout, OU’s Charles Tapper proved the fastest of the defensive linemen, clocking in at an eye-popping 4.59 seconds after measuring in at 6-foot-3, 271 pounds.
Asked to play all over the defensive line for the Sooners and often take on multiple blockers, Tapper rarely had opportunities to show off his remarkable straight-line speed. His workout, however, suggested he may possess the wheels to handle a conversion to outside linebacker.
Small-schoolers star on big stage. The beauty of the NFL combine is that there are no decals on helmets to influence scouts impressions of athleticism. While most of the attention will certainly go to FBS stars like Bosa and Ogbah, small-school prospects like Blair, Grand Valley State’s Matt Judon and South Carolina State’s Javon Hargrave were big winners, more than measuring up to their more well-known peers.
Judon was the most impressive of the three, demonstrating the combination of speed (4.73 seconds in the 40), explosiveness (35-inch vertical) and power (30 reps) that helped him lead all of college football with 20 sacks last season, earning the Gene Upshaw Award as the top lineman at the Division II level.
Like Judon, Hargrave dominated the lower level, registering 29.5 sacks over the past two seasons — a staggering number for a defensive tackle. The 6-foot-1, 309 pound Hargrave was the best player at the East-West Shrine Game and fared well as a late call-up to the Senior Bowl as well. The power he used to bull rush through opponents into the backfield was quantified this weekend with 29 reps, but his speed (4.93) excited scouts most.
Nkemdiche cuts through competition. The most important tests at the combine for Mississippi defensive tackle Robert Nkemdiche were the interviews he held with teams prior to his workout, but the former No. 1 overall prep recruit reminded scouts of his staggering overall athleticism. After measuring in at 6-foot-3, 294 pounds, Nkemdiche was clocked at 4.87 seconds in the 40 and recorded a 35-inch vertical — numbers better than any other similarly sized defensive tackle measured in Indianapolis this year.
Keep the “Underwear Olympics” in perspective. While the defensive linemen as a group fared well, several notable prospects failed to turn in the eye-popping numbers fans might expect. As such, some may question if players like Bosa, Oregon’s DeForest Buckner or Alabama’s duo of A’Shawn Robinson and Jarran Reed are perhaps being overrated.
Don’t believe it.
For all of the media attention that goes into the combine, scouts view it as only about 5 percent of the overall evaluation for most players with their success against top competition.
Take, Alabama’s 6-foot-4, 307-pound Robinson as an example. While it is true that his 22 reps on the bench press was just two more than what Oklahoma wide receiver Sterling Shepard (who is 5-foot-10, 194 pounds) put up on Friday, the functional power shown on tape is much more important.
February 29, 2016 at 9:43 pm #39821InvaderRamModeratori like this kid deiondre hall. only ran a 4.68 in the 40, but he’s got tremendous length. and while it’s a slow time, i think he performed well in the more important drills like the short shuttle and the 3-cone.
during the combine drills they showed the times of josh norman, richard sherman and patrick peterson, so i decided to compare their combine performance to hall’s.
deiondre hall
6’1″ 192lbs arm length 34 3/4″
40 – 4.68s
vert – 37″
broad – 127″
3-cone – 7.07s
short shuttle – 4.06sjosh norman
6’0″ 197lbs arm length 32 3/4″
40 – 4.66s
vert – 33″
broad – 124″
3-cone – 7.09s
short shuttle – 4.23srichard sherman
6’3″ 195lbs arm length 32″
40 – 4.56s
vert – 38″
broad – 125″
3-cone – 6.82s
short shuttle – 4.33spatrick peterson
6’0″ 219lbs arm length 32″
40 – 4.34s
vert – 38″
broad – 126″
3-cone – 6.58s
short shuttle – 4.07soverall his numbers compare with some of the best. but it’s his length that really makes me wonder about his potential. explosive athlete. quick athlete. should be available on the second day.
February 29, 2016 at 10:10 pm #39822InvaderRamModeratorthe more i think about it the more i agree with ag who said the rams should draft another defensive tackle. gotta make sure they keep those blockers off ogletree and hopefully barron.
February 29, 2016 at 10:59 pm #39827InvaderRamModeratorok wow. nfl network just showed film of this guy miles killebrew from southern utah. strong safety 6’2″ 217 pounds.
sounds like he could be that s/lb hybrid. extremely physical on the game tape.
40 – 4.65s
vert – 38″
broad – 127″
3-cone – 6.93s
short shuttle – 4.18sFebruary 29, 2016 at 11:12 pm #39828znModeratorfrom off the net
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alyoshamucci
Best group of DTs I’ve seen, and some real interesting showings for some of the DEs … who are super deep but not as high end. The athletes at DT were something to see. The movement skills were spectacular.
DTs
1) Nkemdiche is the number 1, but in this draft there’s no reason to risk it taking him in the first round, because the safe, hard working lunch pail guys are also freaky deaky. So how far could he fall? He could fall out of the first round before the drop in talent gets too great to pass him up for someone else. He’s a top 5 talent … but with lots of top 10 and 20 talents that will fall to the end of round 1? Why bother?
2) Billings and Rankins burst and balance was pretty special. They’re not Aaron Donald, but they are going to be great football players at the 3 tech. The crazy thing? They make the guys that are honest to goodness 2nd and 3rd round talents look bad in the drills. Kenny Clark looked really smooth in drills too, man. That’s beyond the gimme’s of the Alabama kids. Lots of first round talent.
3) The names I am going to remember for 4th or 6th round picks ..
Hargrave is really built well and has some special moves. Needs a year to develop as a 3rd …
Valentine was accosted for coming out early … but he has really good movement skills and balance. I liked the kid on tape, more last year than this year, but I did. I like him better than Collins his counterpart
Henry from Michigan may have helped his stock too much to go after the 3rd, but man what a gifted athlete.
Ridgeway from texas jumped early … and I gotta say he’s ready to be coached at the next level.
Mayes and Reader also looked really good for BIG men.4) Chris Jones was a little stiffer than I’d like, but that can be taught. Maybe he slides and we get lucky? I doubt it.
5) Overall, it’s such a good group that I’d be sure to get one in UDFA also … I have more on my list, like 20 more DTs … so Im going to have to keep scouring the pro days to see who drills well.
6) I’ll just say it again, most of these kids moved like LBs.
DE
7) MY first point is Nassib, because he’s been my horse all year. I still have him top twenty. His 40 wasn’t blazing, but his 10 yard split was 1.62, tied with Spence. That’s no joke burst.
8) Spence ? Was not expecting those numbers. There’s no reason to go for him high, he’ll fall out of round 1.
9) There are some BIG DEs that I’d be willing to let just be massive in a 4-3. Kaufusi, Zettel, Bullard, Ward, Lowry. I’m willing to put them in Long’s spot.
10) McCallister as a project? But take him when?
11) Tapper? Seriously dude faster than the WRs? Where does he get taken? His tape is average.
12) this is weird, but Im having a Clemson battle for first DE off the board, and I have no idea who it will be. Shaq really showed some skills.
13) Weatherly is supposed to be here. Ridiculous putting him with LBs, except that he outran them. That’s an athlete right there.
LB
14) Happy bad times … (because bad times mean some skilled kids may drop) SCOOBY!!! 4.9 Brothers !! 4.85 Bene Brown !! 4.76 (I had him for a 4.62 guy, now he may fade back a bit) Forrest !!! 4.91 ALL OF THESE GUYS PLAY FASTER THAN THAT.
15) Floyd looked really good. May sneak top ten … I won’t GRADE him that high, but he could go there.
16) Fackrell looks like Paul Kruger
17) Schobert, Kwaikowski, Martinez, and Vigil all showed up like they wanted to play in the NFL. 4.7 speed. Vigil’s 3 cone was inspiring.
18) I don’t know that Eric Striker is draftable.
19) Goodson from Clemson is another athletic thumper that should get along look.
20) Devondre Campbell .. I have no idea if he’s inside or out.
I want some of the kids on this list … multiple in fact.
March 1, 2016 at 8:30 am #39833AgamemnonParticipanthttps://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/02/29/draft-3-major-takeaways-from-the-combines-defensive-back-workouts/
3 major takeaways from the combine’s DB workoutsSteve Palazzolo shares his evaluation from the final day of the NFL scouting combine.
Day 4 of the NFL combine concludes with the defensive backs — always a position where athleticism can blind evaluators during the process. It certainly helps to see quality 40 times and change of direction skills from the defensive backs, but corners still have to play with great technique and safeties are useless unless they read the play and take proper angles.
Perhaps most important, just like any position, we’d like to see players that “play fast” on tape also run fast on the track. A number of players did just that. Here are the top takeaways from the defensive back workouts:
William Jackson III is a first-round caliber playerJust as we highlighted earlier, Jackson III may be the best cornerback in the entire draft, and we felt that way before he ran a 4.37 40 at six-foot, 189 pounds. We expected him to run well as the big corner has fantastic movement skills on film, whether in a straight line or when changing direction. He posted the second-highest coverage grade in the draft class last season at +17.3, and perhaps most impressive, there is room to grow to his game. He’s inconsistent in press, from both a physicality and technique standpoint, so he hasn’t yet reached his potential. Given Jackson’s current production, combined with his size and athleticism, he may just develop into the best corner in the draft a few years down the road.
Jalen Ramsey has all of the necessary tools to be the best player in the draftJackson has to answer to Ramsey, however, who proved his worth as a top-five caliber pick. He ran the seventh-fastest 40 at 4.41 to go with the top vertical and broad jumps among defensive backs. This backs up what we’ve seen from Ramsey the last few years as he has the deep speed to play outside cornerback, but also the lower body explosion and length to compress the field as a short zone player. Given this all-around skillset, Ramsey could develop into the draft’s best player if he can continue to take advantage of a size/speed combination that allows for growth in man coverage. I still think his best fit is as a versatile chess piece in a diverse defensive scheme, allowing the defense to take advantage of all Ramsey has to offer.
Eli Apple also helped himself, now he just has to find the ballWith a 40 time at 4.40 at 6-1, Apple also showed the size and speed that the NFL is looking for in their press man corners. He may be the best in the class from a press standpoint, playing sticky coverage but still surrendering catches as he doesn’t always find the ball in the air and has proven susceptible to back-shoulder throws. While it may be anecdotal, this is the same issue that Buffalo Bills rookie CB Ronald Darby had coming out of Florida State last year, and he went on to improve in this area on his way to PFF Defensive Rookie of the Year honors. The inability to find the ball, along with shoddy open-field tackling, was a big reason Apple posted only the 24th-best coverage grades in the draft class, though he may excel if given an opportunity to play pure press man coverage in the right system.
March 10, 2016 at 9:57 am #40352sdramParticipanthttp://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25511490/nfl-draft-great-defensive-line-class
2016 NFL Draft: Great defensive line class
By Frank Cooney | NFLDraftScout.com
March 10, 2016 9:42 am ET
Despite the NFL’s incessant focus on pumping up statistics and points on offense, Super Bowl 50 demonstrated defense still determines championships.
At least it did in this Super Bowl, with the Denver Broncos bruising quarterback Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers, 24-10. Both defenses were dominant and not even the great Peyton Manning was able to go out gracefully, even if it was with a Lombardi Trophy.
As teams seek to punch up their defensive might in this copy-cat league, the 2016 NFL Draft has plenty of muscle for hire up front. According to rating by NFLDraftScout.com, this draft offers one of the deepest classes in memory at defensive end and tackle.
On the outside, where Ohio State’s Joey Bosa figures to go in the top three, there are eight defensive ends projected to be taken in the first two rounds and about 30 in the draft.
On the inside, Alabama’s A’Shawn Robinson is one of four tackles expected to go within the top 20, with nine rated in the first two rounds and at least 28 in the draft.
Of course all this defensive muscle will create more need for offensive blocking, but those positions are another part in this series.
For now, here is a look at the best defensive line talent available in the 2016 draft (Capsules on Top 100 with others in top 350 listed).
Defensive Ends
Pos/Overall Rnk, Player, College, Hgt, Wgt, 40 Time, Proj. Rd.
1/3. *Joey Bosa, Ohio State, 6-5, 269, 4.86, 1
Breaking Family Tradition: His father, John, and uncle, Eric Kumerow, were each drafted No. 16 overall in 1987 and 1988, respectively, and each lasted only three years in the NFL with the Miami Dolphins. Young Bosa is rated a top-five pick in the 2016 draft after collecting 26 sacks and 51 tackles for loss in three seasons with the Buckeyes. That includes only 5.0 sacks last season, but he did have 16 tackles for a loss and was a unanimous All-America first-team selection and All-Big Ten. His best season was 2014 with 13.5 sacks and 21 tackles for loss. At the Indy combine Bosa was disappointed with his 40-yard time of 4.86, but that is acceptable along with his 24 repetitions of 225 pounds and a 32-inch vertical jump.
–Quote to Note: “I do believe I’m the best player in the draft. . . . . it’s going to be up to Tennessee to make that decision. I think as a player if you don’t believe that then there’s kind of something wrong.” — Bosa, when asked how he rated himself in the draft, in which the Tennessee Titans have the first pick.
–Frankly: Explosive and agile enough to do back flips at 270 pounds — literally — but that’s not a move he can use in the NFL. Still, Bosa can use his determination and discipline to be a constant pest off the edge at the next level
2/7. DeForest Buckner, Oregon, 6-7, 291, 5.05, 1
Senior moment: Teammates and pro scouts were surprised when Buckner stayed in school for his senior year when he would have been one of the first pass rushers drafted in 2015. But he now goes into this draft as the top rated senior prospect. While most of Oregon’s defense struggled, Buckner showed improved pass-rush ability and collected 10.5 sacks, tops in the Pac-12, 17 tackles for loss and 83 overall tackles. He is learning to control his extraordinary length against blockers, but he already has a knack for blocking passes (10 in college career). He can hold his ground against a run at him or pursue effectively on runs away. Buckner had the biggest hands at the combine, 11 3/4 inches and at his size a 32-inch vertical jump is impressive.
–Quote to Note: “I played in every technique possible, from nose and rushing outside at end. I can do everything. I can stop the run. I can also rush the passer, which I did a lot better this year. They can get a complete defensive lineman when they pick me.” — Buckner, when asked where he should fit in the NFL.
–Frankly: Buckner has the length, strength, speed, desire to succeed. Impressively, Stanford head coach David Shaw paid homage, saying “If you’re building a defensive lineman, that’s what you would build.”
3/13. *Shaq Lawson, Clemson, 6-3, 269, 4.70, 1
Shaq Attack: Lawson entered the 2015 season with more buzz than production, but finally piled up impressive stats in a hurry. He topped all FBS defenders with 24.5 tackles for a loss, including 12.5 sacks. An AFC scout, watching Lawson work against Notre Dame’s highly-touted left tackle Ronnie Stanley in October, messaged NFLDraftScout.com’s Dane Brugler, “this #90 is a difference-maker!” Lawson finished the game with seven tackles, 3.5 for a loss, while beating Stanley with a combination of quickness and power. Lawson’s combine results included the fastest time among DTs in the top 100, 4.70 seconds, and an impressive 33-inch vertical jump that demonstrates his explosiveness.
–Quote to Note: “I bring a lot of different moves to the pass rush, people say I’m mostly a power guy, I don’t see myself as just a power guy, I can spin, beat you off the edge, run past you, everything.” — Lawson, when asked to describe him strengths.
–Frankly: Each week more believers jump on the Lawson bandwagon and a good show of measureable athleticism at the Indianapolis Combine probably gained a few more.
4/26. *Noah Spence, Eastern Kentucky, 6-2, 251, 4.80, 1-2
Fessed up: Spence was head coach Urban Meyer’s first five-star recruit to commit to the Buckeyes and was the team leader in sacks as a first-year starter in 2013 at Ohio State. He finished the season with 52 tackles, 14.5 tackles for loss, including 8.0 sacks over his 12 starts. Spence tested positive for a banned substance at the 2013 Big Ten title game and was suspended for the Orange Bowl and two games in 2014. After first claiming somebody spiked his drinks, Spence owned up to a problem with Ecstasy. He competed a drug rehab program and rebuilt his resume at EKU last year, earning co-Defensive Player of the Year honors in the Ohio Valley Conference. He had 22.5 tackles for loss, 11.5 sacks, 63 tackles, 15 quarterback hurries, three forced fumbles and a pair of fumble recoveries. After a good showing at the Senior Bowl, Spence was only average at the Indianapolis Combine except for a nice 34-inch vertical jump.
–Quote to Note: “There’s a group of people I can’t hang with. I have to be more myself and stay away from that party scene. It was more like partying and going out. Every time I did it, it was me going out and partying.” — Spence on how he is avoiding a drug relapse.
–Frankly: Spence is a fluid athlete with lateral agility and quickness who showed his competitive fire when he became combative during Senior Bowl practices. He can do damage from several positions along the defensive front.
5/27. *Emmanuel Ogbah, Oklahoma State, 6-4, 273, 4.63, 1-2
Really Big Move: Stepping up to the NFL shouldn’t be intimidating for Ogbah, whose big move was from Nigeria when he was nine years old and his family sought a better life in the U.S. He was encouraged to select Oklahoma State by fellow Nigerian native Russell Okung, who, of course, is an alum. After playing every game as a redshirt freshman, Ogbgah had a breakout season in 2014 and finished his sophomore year with 17.0 tackles for loss, 11.0 sacks and the Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year award. Last season, he had 17.5 tackles for loss among his conference-high 13 sacks and was honored as the Big 12’s Defensive Player of the Year. He was stymied in the Sugar Bowl by Ole Miss tackles Laremy Tunsil (ranked a top-five draft prospect) and Fahn Cooper. At the Indianapolis Combine, Ogbah starred with a 40-yard time of 4.63, a vertical jump of 35.5 inches and 20 reps (225 pounds) with those long arms (35.5 inches).
–Quote to Note: “Speed. I’m a pretty fast guy for a guy my size. I try to come off the ball as fast as possible and try to attack the offensive lineman before he can get his hands on me.” — Ogbah, when asked to name the most important aspect of his game.
–Frankly: Scouts believe he has a high ceiling and is just learning the nuances of the game, but NFLDraftScout.com analyst Dane Brugler warns that “Ogbah is battling the history of high-round picks from Oklahoma State who failed to live up to expectations in the NFL.”
6/29. *Kevin Dodd, Clemson, 6-5, 277, 4.86, 1-2
The other end: With Shaq Lawson (No. 3-ranked DE here) commanding the focus of offenses at right defensive end, Dodd was able to blossom at left defensive end in his first year as a starter. He finished last season with 23.5 tackles for loss and 12.0 sacks, second on the team behind Lawson. He had at least one sack in each of his last five games. Dodd demanded attention in the National Championship game by scorching Alabama for three sacks and three TFL. Dodd had a pedestrian showing at the combine and said a hamstring impacted his running and he also chose not to lift.
–Quote to Note: “Nobody really knew about me. . . . If they projected Shaq to be All-ACC that’s who they’re going to roll with and that’s who they went with. I had my chances and I got my opportunities to showcase who I am and I took full advantage of it.” — Dodd on how he took advantage of Shaq’s presence.
–Frankly: Dodd’s star is definitely on a radical ascent, possibly best evidenced by an increase in tackles from eight in 2014 to 65 last season. Although his outstanding play in 2015 seemed to arrive out of nowhere, Dodd’s progression was interrupted with a knee injury in 2013 and he obviously was healed by 2015.
7/41. Jonathan Bullard, Florida, 6-3, 285, 4.93, 2
Versatile D-Lineman: Broad shouldered and duck footed, Bullard played at every position on the Florida defensive line, but may fit best as a base defensive end in the NFL. He impressed scouts with a willingness to play through pain and maintain a leadership role over the years. In 2013, he battled through injuries to get 33 tackles in 11 games as a sophomore, then improved in 2014 to 52 tackles, 8.5 TFL with 2.5 sacks. Last season, he lived in the opposing backfield with 18 TFL, including 6.5 sacks.
–Quote to Note: “I think I want to play three technique. Just being closer to the ball, mismatching with the guards, quicker first step and you can key the ball faster on the three technique.” — Bullard, when asked where is preferred to play on the defensive line.
–Frankly: Bullard can add 20 pounds of muscle to better cope with challenges in the NFL. He is a reliable, blue-collar, no-nonsense battler who can be effective immediately at the pro level.
8/50. Shilique Calhoun, Michigan State, 6-4, 251, 4.82, 2
No Slam Dunk: A former prep basketball star with excellent feet, agility and quickness, Calhoun totaled 128 quarterback pressures and 26.5 sacks in three years as a starter. In 2014, he was the Big Ten Defensive Lineman of the year, but wisely eschewed a chance to jump into the draft and remained in college to improve his scouting reports. Calhoun relies on deceptive straight line speed, but if he cannot gain an advantage on the edge that way, he doesn’t have the natural strength to out-tough a blocker. His explosion was quantified at the Indianapolis Combine with a 35-inch vertical jump
–Quote to Note: “Love the opportunity. I could play tailback if you needed me to play there. I’m not worried where they put me on the field,
it’s just getting me on the field.” — Calhoun, when asked how he would feel about playing outside linebacker.
–Frankly: Calhoun has some tools to succeed as a pass-rusher in the NFL, but lacks a mean streak or pure strength that would make him more of a pest for offensive tackles.
9/68. Carl Nassib, Penn State, 6-7, 277, 4.84, 2-3
One-year Wonder?: After never starting a game in high school or college, Nassib suddenly led college football last year with 15.5 sacks. Among those surprised was former Penn State coach Bill OI’Brien, who told Nassib to forget about playing pro football. The younger brother of former Syracuse and current New York Giants quarterback Ryan Nassib, Carl was a gawky, 6-foot-6 inch, injury-plagued, 215-pounder who opted to walk on at Penn State when he received no FBS offers. He gained 60 pounds, and a scholarship, by his sophomore year. Last season, as a redshirt senior, Nassib’s relentless work paid off when he totaled 46 tackles, 19.5 for a loss and those 15.5 sacks. He also led the nation with six forced fumbles, a coveted stat by many scouts. He was named Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year. Nassib is a hustler with long strides that make him more deceptive than fast.
–Quote to Note: “Size and technique. I learned a lot every day at Penn State. And I got bigger obviously, ” Nassib, when asked to explain his sudden improvement last year when he led the nation with 15.5 sacks and six forced fumbles.
–Frankly: Nassib is smart on and off the field, with plans to attend medical school that may need to wait until he is through with the NFL. Not a sure thing, with plenty to learn, but his length (6-foot-7 inches tall with an 82 7/8-inch wingspan) and hard work made a major impact last season.
10/77. Charles Tapper, Oklahoma, 6-3, 271, 4.59, 2-3
Must tap potential: After looking good as a true freshman and earning All-Big 12 honors as a sophomore (49 tackles, 9 TFL, 5-5 sacks), Tapper had an unproductive 2014 season. He re-appeared last season, getting the attention of scouts again with 50 tackles, 10 for loss, including seven sacks. He shows good agility to go with surprising reach (34 3/4-inch arms) and massive hands (11-inches), which helps him play taller than he measures (6-feet-2 5/8th inches). His most impressive performance at the Indianapolis Combine was a 34-inch vertical jump.
–Quote to Note: “I’d prefer a five technique or an outside linebacker where I can be an athlete and show my athletic abilities and show that quickness that I have and that speed that I have, and also that strength that everybody sees, that I portrayed the whole season.” — Tapper, when asked what position he might play as a pro.
–Frankly: Hard to evaluate because his motor was inconsistent in college and that was further exacerbated by deployment that often relegated him to contain rather than rush. Seems to have physical tools that good coaching can make productive.
11/92. Shawn Oakman, Baylor, 6-8, 287, 4.96, 3
False start: After off-field issues and poor academics earned him an invitation to leave Penn State, this massive man took his bad attitude to Baylor. After mulling life for one season, he returned to football and took out his frustrations on opposing offenses. He leaves Baylor as the school record-holder for career sacks (17.5) and single-season sacks (11). His totals last year were 43 tackles, 32 solo, 14.5 for loss, 4.5 sacks, 8 QB hurries and two forced fumbles. But the most remarkable thing about Oakman is his physique. This humongous man is 6-feet-7 1/2 inches tall, a well-cut 287 pounds with and an 84 3/4-inch wingspan and 10 5/8ths-inch hands.
–Quote to Note: “I was young and I did foolish things that a younger man does. You got to take it with a grain of salt. It made me who I am today. I’m not proud of my actions, but I’m definitely changing.” — Oakman when asked about being dismissed from Penn State before going to Baylor.
–Frankly: He certainly looks the part, and plays as good as he looks often enough to be drafted in the top 100. After that, it will be up to Oakman to cash in on his God-given dimensions.
Other Defensive Ends in the top 350:
12/112. Bronson Kaufusi, Brigham Young, 6-6, 285, 4.87, 3-4
13/114. Jason Fanaika, Utah, 6-2, 271, 4.92, 3-4
14/126. Jihad Ward, Illinois, 6-5, 297, 5.11, 4
15/133. Matt Judon, Grand Valley State, 6-3, 275, 4.73, 4
16/145. Ronald Blair, Appalachian State, 6-2, 284, 5.15, 4-5
17/173. Romeo Okwara, Notre Dame, 6-5, 265, 4.90, 5
18/183. James Cowser, Southern Utah, 6-3, 248, 4.82, 5-6
19/187. Aziz Shittu, Stanford, 6-2, 284, 4.91, 5-6
20/205. D.J. Pettway, Alabama, 6-2, 265, 4.99, 6
21/221. Anthony Zettel, Penn State, 6-4, 277, 4.81, 6-7
22/231. *Stephen Weatherly, Vanderbilt, 6-4, 267, 4.61, 6-7
23/256. Lawrence Thomas, Michigan State, 6-3, 286, 4.98, 7
24/274. *Ron Thompson, Syracuse, 6-3, 253, 4.92, 7-FA
25/290. Dean Lowry, Northwestern, 6-6, 296, 4.87, 7-FA
26/304. Ugonna Awuruonye, Campbell, 6-5, 260, 4.92, 7-FA
27/318. Greg Townsend Jr., Southern California, 6-2, 269, 4.86, 7-FA
28/326. *Alex McCalister, Florida, 6-6, 239, 4.80, 7-FA
29/338. Silverberry Mouhon, Cincinnati, 6-3, 252, 4.86, 7-FA
30/346. Theiren Cochran, Minnesota, 6-5, 258, 4.86, 7-FA
Defensive Tackles
Pos/Overall Rnk, Player, College, Hgt, Wgt, 40 Time, Proj. Rd.
1/14. *A’Shawn Robinson, Alabama, 6-4, 307, 5.20, 1
Hello, central casting?: Robinson looks like Tarzan and plays like Godzilla with his powerful upper body, strong arms and legs the size of a 500-year-old Redwood tree, in diameter anyway. He is equipped to play inside in any defensive front, but has not yet played to his lofty potential, stymied somewhat by assignments to just clog the middle and not pursue the ball. Can be an effective run-stopper right away in the NFL, but will need to push himself more throughout a play and learn techniques to shed blockers if he wants to put pressure on quarterbacks.
–Quote to Note: “Just get off the blocks faster. Stop patty-caking with the offensive linemen and just get off the block and go make the play.” — Robinson, saying all the right things when asked how he could improve his pass rush.
Frankly: Robinson can already hold his own against two blockers and that alone will make him valuable. There are no guarantees how much upside he has, but some team will take him high in the first round to find out.
2/16. Sheldon Rankins, Louisville, 6-1, 299, 5.03, 1
Due recognition: Lorenzo Mauldin was the top pass-rush threat for Louisville in 2014, but it was Rankins who led the Cardinals in both tackles for loss (13.5) and sacks (8.0) that season, also besting Mauldin with 53 total tackles. Rankins added a pair of interceptions, a surprising number for a 300-pounder, and thrived under defensive coordinator Todd Grantham’s multiple front scheme. Last season, Rankins started all 13 games and finished the season with 13 tackles for a loss (six sacks) among his 58 tackles, along with a pass breakup, four quarterback hits and a fumble recovery. He tweaked a knee during Senior Bowl practice, but took part in full at the Indianapolis Combine, where his best mark was a 34.5-inch vertical jump
–Quote to Note: I just feel like my versatility does a lot for me — the fact that I’ve played in a 3-4, I’ve played in a 4-3, I’ve played all up and down the D-line, from Zero Nose to a Five Technique. I feel like, when you turn on the tape, you see . . . my versatility and my intelligence really sets me apart.” — Rankins on what differentiates him in a class of oustanding defensive linemen.
–Frankly: NFLDrafScout.com analyst Dane Brugler noted that Rankins was “nearly unblockable during one-on-one drills at the Senior Bowl due to his quickness off the whistle and powerful arms to drive blockers backward.” Brugler was also impressed with the mayhem Rankins causes with his “heavy hands.”
3/17. *Andrew Billings, Baylor, 6-1, 311, 5.05, 1
Hometown Hunk: Billings was a well-known high-school sensation in Waco before making the short move to Baylor. He set state prep records in the power-lift with 2,010 total pounds that included 805 in the squat, 705 in the dead lift and 500 on the bench. Billings uses that brute strength and the ballast provided by his wide girth to dominate blockers, sometimes just tossing them aside. After becoming a starter as a sophomore, Billings collected 11.5 tackles for loss, two sacks and nine quarterback hits in 2014. Last season, he made 15 TFL, including 5.5 sacks. For those tracking his weighty accomplishments, Billings hoisted 225 pounds 31 times and the Indianapolis Combine, good for a tie for seventh, but well off his goal of 50.
–Quote to Note: “Vince Wilfork. He really has the attack off the ball like that. I think I bring a little bit more movement laterally onto that position, and quickness. But definitely his aggression I can bring.” Billings, when asked to what NFL player does he compare himself.
–Frankly: NFL teams must make this choice — draft Billings or wish they did when attempting to block him over the next decade. He is an ascending talent.
4/20. Jarran Reed, Alabama, 6-3, 307, 5.21, 1
Man handler: A junior college transfer, Reed considered jumping into the 2015 draft after one decent season with Alabama. But he is now reaping the benefits of much better scouting reports after a 2015 season in which he made 56 tackles, including one sack, two pass breakups, eight quarterback hurries and a fumble recovery in 14 starts. Reed is not a great pass rusher and never will be, but he can create a dogpile even if offenses sic two blockers on him and he led Alabama in tackles over the last two years. He is a punishing tackler who makes opponents know he is there, sometimes through the whistle.
–Quote to Note: “It was the system we played in. Run-first, then-convert-to-pass system, but I did apply pressure on the quarterback. I definitely hit the quarterback, I definitely got sacks, too.” — Reed, when asked why he didn’t get more than one sack last season.
Frankly: Reed should find a place in any NFL defensive system. He answered any lingering questions at the Senior Bowl practices, where he sometimes looked like a man among boys while using those huge legs, long arms and strong hands to stop anything within reach.
5/25. *Robert Nkemdiche, Mississippi, 6-3, 294, 4.87, 1
Boom or Bust: Projecting Nkemdiche’s production as an NFL player is as difficult as pronouncing his name. Oh, that would be kim-DEECH-ee. His physical size and ability scream “sure thing.” But offseason issues and a strange lack of statistics are making NFL teams wary. After falling out of a hotel window in December, he was linked to marijuana possession. When he was suspended for the Sugar Bowl, Nkemdiche opted to get into the 2016 draft. His size, strength and mobility should equal more production than his stats show. In 2015 he totaled 26 tackles, seven TFL with three sacks. Some scouts question whether he keeps his motor revved all the time. When his RPMs are up, Nkemdiche is a brutish force almost anywhere along the line.
–Quote to Note: “Tell them the truth. it was a rash decision by me. Uncharacteristic. That’s not who I am. That’s not what I stand for. That’s not what my family stands for. It was embarrassing for me and my whole family, the Ole Miss family. I tell them that’s not the kind of player they’re getting. They’re getting a straight-forward player. I’m never going to return to that. I’m just moving forward and embracing this moment.” — Nkemdiche, when asked what he tells teams that inquire about incident that led to suspension.
–Frankly: In an attempt to defuse his December Debacle, Nkemdiche talked the talk to the media and NFL teams at the combine. However, it is bothersome that he publically confirmed rumors that his teammate, offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil — rated as the No. 1 overall pick — was in the room with him. For teams still bothered by the names Johnny Manziel, Joseph Randle, Josh Gordon or Greg Hardy, it will take a measure of belief to select Nkemdiche with a high pick, although his talent calls for that.
6/31. Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech, 6-4, 323, 5.33, 1-2
“Big Vern”: Butler, a wide-bodied, nose-tackle type, wisely decided to return to school for the 2015 season and may have boosted his projected draft status from a middle rounder to the top two rounds. A backup as a true freshman and sophomore, his snaps increased each game and he became a full-time starter in 2014. As a junior, he recorded a career-best 56 tackles and 13.5 tackles for loss, earning All-Conference USA Honorable Mention honors. But he wowed scouts as a senior last season, making first-team All-Conference USA honors with 48 tackles, 10.0 tackles for loss and a career-best 4.0 sacks.
–Quote to Note: “Compares to Johnathan Hankins, New York Giants. Both Hankins and Butler have the quickness and point of attack power to push the pocket to give blockers all they can handle.” — Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com senior analyst.
–Frankly: He seems better every day. Scouts were impressed by Butler at the Senior Bowl, where he was even bigger than previously believed and asserted his 6-foot-4 length and 324 pounds in a way that made him almost unblockable at times, showing an exciting combination of initial quickness, balance and a refined swim move.
7/32. *Kenny Clark, UCLA, 6-3, 314, 5.06, 1-2
On the nose: A two-year starter, Clark lined up primarily as a nose tackle and one-technique defensive tackle in UCLA’s 4-3 base defense, finishing second on the team in tackles (75) in 2015. He doesn’t possess great size, but Clark is one of the country’s better run-stuffers, winning with strength, a naturally low center of gravity and hustle to plug rushing lanes. Overshadowed by flashier athletes throughout much of his career and still developing his pass rush skills, Clark flashes the violence, agility and motor to twist and drive blockers backward, projecting as a three-down interior player at the next level. Although he had a forgettable 28-inch vertical jump at the Indianapolis Combine, Clark managed a better-than-average 29 reps benching 225 pounds.
–Quote to Note: “I like to watch Haloti Ngata a lot. . . . I could see a lot of myself in Ngata and the way he plays nose tackle. . . .He gets off the ball quick. He’s explosive, especially at the age he’s at now, he’s still doing this thing. He’s still knocking guys back and being disruptive. That’s impressive. I enjoy watching his tape.” Clark, when asked what NFL player he watches most.
Frankly: Clark’s wrestling background (high school champ) shows up in the trenches. Although he looked good as a college nose tackle, he may be even more disruptive as a tackle in a base 4-3 at the pro level.
8/44. *Austin Johnson, Penn State, 6-4, 314, 5.32, 2
Reporting for duty: Already planning for life after football, Johnson earned his journalism degree, but first things first. A big boy in every regard — tall and broad — Johnson uses a high rev motor and persistent pursuit to create gaudy stats. His three-year totals for the Nittany Lions include 154 tackles, 8.5 sacks, 24.0 TFLs, four fumble recoveries and five pass breakups. He is more of a run-stuffer than a pass rusher. Surprising athleticism for a man his size puts Johnson in the middle of more than his share of plays.
–Quote to Note: “My footwork, my hand placement, my striking, getting in that mindset to run to the ball, to be that factor on the field, to run sideline to sideline as a big guy. It’s hard to see that sometimes in a lot of other defensive tackles.” — Johnson, when asked what he has improved the most through college.
Frankly: Johnson wants to join a media broadcast crew even during his NFL career, but he may need wide angle cameras to fit him in if he selects TV. Meantime, Johnson should be raising havoc along some NFL team’s defensive line for a while.
9/55. Adolphus Washington, Ohio State, 6-3, 301, 5.17, 2
Play for pay: After struggling through an injury-filled sophomore season, Washington improved every year, but still has not reached his potential. Washington finished 2014 with 48 tackles, 10.5 TFL, 4.5 sacks. Last year, he collected 49 tackles, seven TFL and four sacks. But he missed the Fiesta Bowl due to a suspension after being arrested Dec. 10 for soliciting an undercover vice officer. Washington is large but limber enough to get into position and make tackles. Still, he is a work in progress in terms of recognition and sometimes is late to the party, vice squad notwithstanding.
–Quote to Note: “I think about it on a daily basis. Like I said, it was a really dumb, impulsive decision. To not end my college career the way I wanted to, that took a big toll on me. But I had to eventually move on and start training for the next level.” — Washington, responding to a reporter’s question that reprised the 1995 TV interview in which Jay Leno asked Hugh Grant “What the Hell were you thinking,” after Grant was arrested while with a prostitute.
Frankly: Washington has strength versus the run and is still honing his pass-rush skills. He should mature into a versatile pro who can be used all along the defensive line and create problems as an interior pass rusher.
10/74. *Chris Jones, Mississippi State, 6-6, 310, 5.03, 2-3
Prep to Pro: Although Jones gained national attention as a No. 2-rated recruit coming out of high school, his star is still on the ascent as he moves from college to the pros. He is not difficult to spot in a crowd, even if it is a crowd of football players. Jones is 6-6, 310 and his 85-inch wingspan was fifth largest at the Indianapolis Combine. Only eight at the combine had hands bigger than his (10 3/4 inches). Jones is a dominant, versatile defensive lineman who can line up at tackle or end. He played in 39 games with 16 starts and totaled 102 tackles, 18.0 for a loss with 8.5 sacks.
–Quote to Note: “I’m my biggest critic, and I always feel like I can do better. I never felt like I reached my potential because I’m always willing to learn and be coachable and get better. So I never feel like I reach my expectations.” — Jones, in an honest evaluation of himself when asked if he lived up to expectations at Mississippi State.
Frankly: Jones has an excellent combination of size, body control and strength, but is not yet the sum of his parts. With pro peer pressure and coaching, he should figure out how good he really is.
11/90. Javon Hargrave, South Carolina State, 6-1, 309, 4.93, 3
Life-changer: When Hargrave collected six sacks against Bethune-Cookman in 2014, he was suddenly on the radar of NFL pro scouts. “That one game changed my life, it really did,” he said after that season. Heady with attention, he almost entered the 2015 draft, which was not a good idea for an FCS player with an unfinished resume. So he returned to school last season and kept the scouts interested with 59 tackles, 22 tackles for loss, including 13.5 sacks and 11 quarterback hits. In the Shrine game he more than held his own against FBS prospects and now is expected to be among the top 100 drafted. He moves well for a 300-plus pounder and has a flexible lower body to help change directions in a blink. He showed he strength at Indianapolis combine with 32 reps on the bench with 225 pounds.
–Quote to Note: “Launches himself out of his stance with terrific initial quickness to break up the rhythm of blockers. He is stout at the point of attack with strong hands to lock out and control blocks. When he wins off the snap, he’s able to disrupt the pocket’s rhythm.” — Dane Brugler of NFLDraftScout.com, citing Hargraves’ strength.
Frankly: He needs to improve his overall game and he is shorter than scouts prefer, but Hargrave is explosive — as demonstrated by his 34 1/2-inch vertical jump at the combine. There is plenty of promise here but it will take a lot of dedicated work to fulfill that promise.
Other defensive tackles rated in the top 350
12/103. *Maliek Collins, Nebraska, 6-2, 311, 5.03, 3-4
13/123. Sheldon Day, Notre Dame, 6-1, 293, 5.07, 4
14/144. *Hassan Ridgeway, Texas, 6-3, 303, 5.02, 4-5
15/168. Matt Ioannidis, Temple, 6-3, 299, 5.03, 5
16/175. *Willie Henry, Michigan, 6-3, 303, 5.00, 5
17/181. D.J. Reader, Clemson, 6-3, 327, 5.33, 5-6
18/195. Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech, 6-4, 287, 4.88, 6
19/209. Nile Lawrence-Stample, Florida State, 6-1, 320, 5.24, 6
20/234. Antwaun Woods, Southern California, 6-0, 318, 5.18, 6-7
21/240. Luther Maddy, Virginia Tech, 6-0, 287, 4.96, 7
22/255. *Quinton Jefferson, Maryland, 6-4, 291, 4.95, 7
23/269. Connor Wujciak, Boston College, 6-2, 291, 4.91, 7-FA
24/281. A.J. Zuttah, Dartmouth, 6-2, 290, 5.06, 7-FA
25/296. Delvon Simmons, Southern California, 6-5, 295, 5.04, 7-FA
26/315. Joel Heath, Michigan State, 6-5, 293, 5.02, 7-FA
27/334. David Onyemata, Manitoba, 6-3, 304, 5.06, 7-FA
28/349. Trevon Coley, Florida Atlantic, 6-1, 307, 5.12, 7-FA
— Frank Cooney, founder and publisher of The Sports Xchange and NFLDraftScout.com, is in his sixth decade covering football and 26th year on the Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee.
March 10, 2016 at 9:57 pm #40391sdramParticipantNFLDraftScout.com
2016 NFL Draft: Rankins continues positive momentum at Louisville pro day
By Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst
March 9, 2016 4:24 pm ET
Arguably the top prospect at his position in the draft, defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins was the main attraction at Louisville’s pro day on Wednesday and lived up to expectations.
Rankins (6-1, 299) didn’t participate in agility or testing drills, standing on his results from the NFL Combine. But he did perform positional drills and impressed those in attendance with his movement skills, burst and body control.
“At one point, I just looked around at the crowd of scouts here during Sheldon’s work out,” a Louisville staffer told NFLDraftScout.com. “One just shook his head in disbelief. Another tried hiding his smile. They obviously liked what they saw.”
Rankins was satisfied with his performance and looked to be more in his element, focusing just on football drills.
“I think it went well,” Rankins said when asked about Wednesday’s workout. “All I had to do was position work today so going out there and doing things other than training for a 40, I thought it went well.”
There were 31 teams in attendance at the Cardinals’ pro day, including several teams set to draft in the top-20 overall picks with a need at defensive tackle. Rankins said he has met with “just about every team” so far during the process and has received positive feedback.
“I definitely feel like I’m one of the top, if not the top, defensive tackles in the draft,” Rankins said. “I feel like my body of work speaks for itself. The way I carry myself speaks for itself and I hope GM’s and coaches take notice.”
At the NFL Combine, Rankins posted a 5.03 40-yard dash, 34.5-inch vertical and 28 reps on the bench press.
Rankins earned first round grades from teams during his senior campaign, but he only helped himself since the season ended with positive performances at the Senior Bowl and NFL Combine. His versatility to play multiple positions in various schemes is also a strong selling point, starring at defensive end in Louisville’s 3-4 base, but several teams project him best as a three-technique in a four man front.
Regardless of scheme, Rankins is a three-down player with the skill-set to stop the run and rush the passer and he cemented his status as a first round pick during his pro day.
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Mayock: Jason Taylor a good comparison for Leonard FloydBy Chase Goodbread
College Football 24/7 writer
Published: March 16, 2016 at 08:12 p.m.
Updated: March 16, 2016 at 09:52 p.m.Leonard Floyd has the first-step explosiveness, length and speed that NFL clubs prefer in pass rushers off the edge; the concern for NFL scouts on the Georgia linebacker is whether he’ll have the size and power needed to go with it at the pro level. If he does, NFL Media analyst Mike Mayock thinks former Miami Dolphins star Jason Taylor makes for a good comparison on Floyd’s potential.
The comp was actually made by former New England Patriots center Damien Woody, but it was one Mayock signed off on via Twitter. Mayock devoted a series of tweets to Floyd on Wednesday, in fact, noting the concerns about his ability to play a more physical style in the NFL.
Floyd didn’t get much of a chance to show off his skills on Wednesday at Georgia’s pro day. He contracted food poisoning, according to NFL Media senior analyst Gil Brandt, and was forced to cut his workout short. That meant he was unable to go through position drills, which typically come at the end of pro day workouts.
To be sure, he felt more Jason Taylor-like at the NFL Scouting Combine last month, where he ran a 4.60 40-yard dash, turned in a 39-5-inch vertical jump, and leaped 10-7 in the broad jump to entrench himself as one of the draft’s most athletic pass rushers.
If Floyd is able to assemble a Taylor-like NFL career, the team that drafts him will no doubt be thrilled. Taylor played 15 pro seasons, amassing 139.5 sacks, notching double-digit sacks six times.
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2016 NFL Draft: Team needs exceed linebacker inventory
By Frank Cooney | NFLDraftScout.com
March 17, 2016 3:57 pm ETTo satisfy a craving for quarterback-sacking edge players, NFL teams will gamble on a pair of injured underclassmen — UCLA’s Myles Jack and Notre Dame’s Jaylon Smith — among the top four outside linebackers in the 2016 NFL Draft.
Jack, still not 100 per cent after his knee surgery last September, and Smith, whose New Year’s day ACL/LCL injury may cause him to sit out 2016, are tempting for teams who marvel at their mad skills. Well, when healthy.
So despite their obvious physical issues, Jack and Smith are two big names in a class of outside linebackers that is above average. But it is less than enough for a greedy gaggle of NFL teams that want to emulate the menacing defense of the Super Bowl 50 Champion Denver Broncos.
But there are no Von Miller look-alikes on the near horizon. However, three outside linebackers are expected to be drafted in the first round and six within the first two, according to rankings by NFLDraftScout.com.’
Joining Jack as a first-round prospect are two speed demons — Ohio State’s Darron Lee and Georgia’s tall and talented Leonard Floyd. Expected to go in the second round after Smith are Ohio State’s productive Joshua Perry and Southern California’s intriguing Sua Cravens.
Traditional inside linebackers continue seem like a breed headed for extinction in the pass-happy NFL. And the college prospects appear to follow suit, with another so-so group that features Alabama’s throwback thumper, Reggie Ragland, as the only prospect ranked in the first round by NFLDraftScout.com.Here is a closer look at linebackers ranked in the top 100, and a shopping list of those NFLDraftScout.com ranks within the overall top 350:
Outside linebackers
Pos/Overall Rnk, Player, College, Hgt, Wgt, 40 Time, Proj. Rd.1/5. *Myles Jack, UCLA, 6-1, 245, 4.56, 1
Still don’t know Jack: Projecting this intriguing prospect’s ability to play in the NFL is still tricky. The world still waits to make sure this talented player is ready for football again after a knee injury in September. He declared for the draft in October and began rehabbing to be ready to work out at the Indianapolis Combine, but only benched there (19 reps, 225 pounds). At his March 15 Pro Day, Jack was impressive with a 40-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot-4-inch standing broad jump, but did not run the 40 and only took part in some positions drills. An NFL coach told NFLDraftScout.com, “He was obviously not 100 percent. Not bad, but if you are thinking about him in the top five or 10, you are not comfortable yet.” Otherwise, Jack is potentially the best player/athlete in the draft. Scouts rave about him while poring over videos from two sensational seasons on both sides of the ball. His 75 tackles in 2013 are second only to the great Kenny Easley among true freshmen in Bruins history. He also broke up 11 passes, blocked a punt and scored seven touchdowns as a running back. Jack became the only player in Pac-pick-a-number history selected as offensive AND defensive freshman of the year. As a sophomore, he added 88 tackles and ran for three touchdowns on offense. In his two years he was very special at linebacker, with a magical combination of athleticism and instinct.
Quote to Note: “I see myself as a football player. I want the teams to decide for themselves. I feel like I can play any position. I like being off the ball as a Mike, Will, Sam. I think I could play strong safety as kind of a Kam Chancellor type of role. I feel like I could get the job done there.” — Jack, at Indy Combine, projecting his potential in the NFL when healthy.
Frankly: Full recovery from these knee surgeries is very good these days. Still, these players do not come with guarantees. While it will be a roll of the dice on Jack, the odds on a great return, in the All-Pro area, seem very good.2/12. *Darron Lee, Ohio State, 6-1, 232, 4.47, 1
Fleet afoot: A former high-school quarterback, Lee moved to defense in college and showed great promise at linebacker beginning in 2014. Lee used explosive quickness and great range to put himself in the middle of more than his share of plays. In 2014, Lee made 81 tackles, 16.5 TFL, 7.5 sacks and two interceptions. He was named Defensive MVP in the Sugar Bowl win over Alabama. Last season, Lee totaled 66 tackles, 11 TFL including 4.5 sacks. Lee further quantified his athleticism at the Combine. His 40 time of 4.47 was best among linebackers and a broad jump of 11-2 was second best overall and demonstrates tremendous explosion.
Quote to Note: “I feel linebackers are changing in the league, to be honest – a lot smaller. There aren’t really too many bigger guys. The game is getting faster and you need guys to cover. You’re starting to see that change a lot this year in the league.” — Lee, when asked if he represented a new breed of NFL linebackers.
Frankly: Lean and sometimes mean, Lee has the ability to get into a lot of plays in the pass-happy NFL, either in coverage or on blitzes. He may need to bulk up to hold up, but should be productive in the right setup. Although still learning the nuances in the front seven (“I’m still learning linebacker”), Lee’s physical abilities will yield results if he is just pointed in the right direction for a while. Big upside.3/24. *Leonard Floyd, Georgia, 6-6, 244, 4.60, 1
The Skinny on Speedy: Lean and lanky, Floyd is a speed demon who erases distance in a blur of motion. If he doesn’t get to the quarterback, his long arms and massive wingspan (80 5/8th inches) are still a barrier. A vertical jump of 39.5 inches at the Combine shows further extension. He parlays that speed (4.60 in 40 yards at Indy), length and excellent athleticism as a pass rusher and in pursuit of ball carriers anywhere on the field. It might be notable that Floyd’s progression is going the wrong way, with 6.5 sacks in 2013, 6.0 in 2014 and 3.5 last year. The nearby Atlanta Falcons had 17 staffers at Floyd’s March 16 Pro Day but were disappointed when he did not participate in all positional drills. The Falcons select No. 17 and want to evaluate his pass-rush skills. Floyd has done little to address curiosity about his strength. A pec injury kept him off the bench at Indy and he passed again at his Pro Day and set dates for private team workouts.
Quote to Note: “A big strength of my game would be my speed. A weakness would probably be me (not) having more than one pass rush move. I can work on it and come up with a new move that I can go to rather than just using speed.”
Frankly: Floyd flashed skills as a quick, limber pass rusher, but there are questions about how consistent he can be in the NFL. His natural strength is suspect, but his athletic ability and closing speed are tantalizing. Floyd should bulk up, gain strength to expect sustained effectiveness against the big boys.4/40. *Jaylon Smith, Notre Dame, 6-2, 223, 4.67, 1-2
Bad timing: Smith’s draft stock took a hit on New Year’s Day when he tore his anterior cruciate ligament and lateral collateral ligament in the Fighting Irish’s Fiesta Bowl loss to the Ohio State Buckeyes. He is recovering after surgery and might miss the 2016 season. Before his injury, Smith was an every-down linebacker who held up against running plays and showed great instincts covering receivers. Notre Dame’s Brian Kelly called Smith the best linebacker he ever coached. When healthy, Smith is a freakish athlete who makes plays that few in college could duplicate. Notre Dame’s top tackler since 2014 quickly separated himself as a top NFL prospect with a display of crazy closing speed that usually ended with a violent hit.
Quote to Note: “No, the nerve wasn’t stretched at all. It’s just the healing game, that’s all. It’s a process. I’ll be back 100 percent. We just don’t know when.” — Smith at the Combine, six weeks after surgery for torn left ACL and LCL.
Frankly: Before the knee injury this was a no-brainer. Now, some team must want Smith enough to spend a high draft pick and possibly let him rehab during 2016. When last seen on the field, Smith had the range, awareness and competitive drive that will make him a success in the NFL.5/49. Joshua Perry, Ohio State, 6-4, 254, 4.68, 2
Lost in the crowd: Perry was the unsung hero in Ohio State’s 2014 National Championship season. He led that team with 124 tackles, distancing himself from the runner-up by 32. Perry has remarkable read-and-react instincts and is relentless to a fault. His single-minded, torpedo-like approach sometimes runs him out of the play. Otherwise, he has textbook techniques in taking on the correct side of a blocker or knowing exactly where to shoot a gap. Perry dropped out of Senior Bowl workouts with groin injury. Limited at the Combine by a pulled hamstring, Perry managed a 40-yard time of 4.68 and a 33.5 vertical, but his best marks were natural — arms this short (-) of 34 inches and a nice wingspan of 81.5. Oh, and Perry was bald after shaving off his dreadlocks. He sat out Ohio State’s March 11 circus of a Pro Day.
Quote to Note: “I guess you want to get down to production because every team is looking for productive guys, so a guy that can make tackles but just being a bigger guy, a guy that can thump. … We played on a fast defense with some really good athletes out there but I think people kind of undersell my athleticism a little bit.” — Perry, when asked about his NFL qualities.
Frankly: Perry is a great team player who will light up opponents on the field and ignite teammates in the locker room. He will be a favorite for some NFL team in 2016, even if all he does is blow up opponents on special teams.6/57. *Sua Cravens, Southern California, 6-1, 226, 4.58, 2
Little Big Man: Cravens arrived at USC as a well-known player after three years as a Max-Prep All American and USA Today’s High School Defensive Player of the Year as a senior. He graduated high school a year early to enroll at USC, which first lined him up at strong safety. Cravens’ football instincts, athleticism and awareness are reminiscent of former USC and Pittsburgh Steelers star Troy Polamalu. The Trojans eventually moved Cravens closer to the line as a hybrid DB/LB, where his football IQ and heavy hands raise havoc and cause turnovers. Cravens can demolish a run, sack the quarterback, cover a receiver and pretty much whatever else he wants. Last season, he led USC with 86 tackles, 15 TFL, including 5.5 sacks, and made two interceptions. Cravens chose not to run or lift at the Combine so scouts will look him up at USC’s March 23 pro day.
Quote to Note: “At this point it doesn’t really matter where I see myself at. It all depends on the team that drafts me. I feel whether it’s safety or linebacker, I can play the position. I learned it pretty well, the linebacker position, and I feel like I can still go back and get in the back-pedal at safety. It all depends on what the team wants.” — Cravens, when asked what position he sees himself playing in the NFL.
Frankly: Never mind what position, just call him a football player, give him a uniform, sic him on the opposing offense and enjoy. Cravens comes from a gene pool that includes cousin Jordan Cameron and distant relatives Manti Te’o and David Fulcher.March 22, 2016 at 4:38 pm #40923AgamemnonParticipant -
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