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April 26, 2016 at 9:08 pm #42660znModerator
Mark Davis could make a commitment to Las Vegas this week
Raiders owner Mark Davis will be in Las Vegas Thursday when the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee (SNTIC) meets to discuss plans to build a 65,000-seat stadium near the Las Vegas strip, and according to sources, Davis will offer a commitment to pursue a Raiders relocation there if financing for the $1.3 billion project is approved, Vinny Bonsignore of the Los Angeles Daily News reports.
Davis is absolutely serious about targeting Las Vegas as the future home for his franchise, and sees the growing city as the ideal landing spot for the Raiders both locally and regionally.
In Las Vegas, the Raiders envision a home base that would enable them to tap into the furthest reaches of their fan base. Las Vegas would be their primary market, but its elements as one of the most popular destination points in America would be the magnet they use to draw in Raiders fans and season-ticket holders from across the country.
And they have some powerful people getting behind a stadium effort that might soon be their future home.
Sheldon Adelson of the Sands Corp Corporation is proposing a domed stadium near the Strip through a public-private partnership. The preliminary financing proposal calls for about two-thirds of the funding to come from taxes on tourists.
The SNTIC will review tourism-related projects for possible state funding at this week’s meeting, with the stadium proposal being one of the projects being considered. The committee is expected to make a recommendation later this summer.
Davis’ appearance Thursday – and the commitment he is expected to make – could be a difference maker. Davis will leave no doubt his franchise will pursue relocation to Las Vegas if the stadium project is approved.
“It’s huge because the committee sees (the Raiders) are serious,” a source close to the situation, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Southern California News Group. “And if (the committee) approves the funding, there will be no stopping the train.”
Meanwhile, there is growing sentiment within the NFL that fellow owners are opening up to Las Vegas and granting Davis his wish to move there should he request it.
“It would be a good home for them,” said a high-ranking NFL source.
April 26, 2016 at 10:44 pm #42667znModeratorthere is growing sentiment within the NFL that fellow owners are opening up to Las Vegas and granting Davis his wish to move there should he request it.
I keep hearing that, that the league would approve it.
April 26, 2016 at 11:31 pm #42668InvaderRamModeratorso would there be a sports book like right in the stadium?
black jack tables in the luxury box seats?
a 50 dollar buffet line?
April 27, 2016 at 12:05 am #42669ZooeyModeratorWell, what the hell.
It has always been about managing perception anyway. Because the league is certainly not opposed to gambling (if there is profit in it for the league). Their only concern is public opinion, and the fear that people will think games are fixed which would be bad for business. Obviously.
But public acceptance of gambling has grown immensely over the past 30 years with the state run lotteries. People gamble.
I actually don’t see a problem with it. I mean a game is not more likely to be fixed because the team plays in a city with legalized gambling. Just as easy to fix a game in Cleveland as in Las Vegas if one had the means to do it. Las Vegas makes no difference.
And why shouldn’t the crowd play a little keno during commercial timeouts?
Oh, and San Diego is ALSO looking at stadiums, but that probably deserves its own thread.
April 27, 2016 at 6:59 am #42674nittany ramModeratorOh, and San Diego is ALSO looking at stadiums, but that probably deserves its own thread.
Good.
It’s looking more and more like the Rams will be the only show in town. I hate the idea of them sharing a stadium.
April 27, 2016 at 12:17 pm #42693ZooeyModeratorOh, and San Diego is ALSO looking at stadiums, but that probably deserves its own thread.
Good.
It’s looking more and more like the Rams will be the only show in town. I hate the idea of them sharing a stadium.
I do too. Which – to me – was what was most significant about the Las Vegas story: that the Raiders could very well stay away from LA.
And that is why I posted the blurb about the San Diego stadium proposal in this thread as a response. But the next time I visited the board, the San Diego post had been excised from this thread, and placed all by itself in a new thread with an ungodly question mark in the title.
So I figured that maniac zn (probably, since he started this thread) was more interested in the Las Vegas/gambling issue, and found San Diego to be an unholy diversion from his crusade to discuss gambling issues. Being the nice guy I am, I obliged. Being the demon spawn that I am, I fired off that last line to let him know that I know what he’s up to, just so he watches his behavior in the future. (And now I have diabolically succeeded in distracting from Las Vegas).
April 27, 2016 at 1:31 pm #42696nittany ramModeratorOh, and San Diego is ALSO looking at stadiums, but that probably deserves its own thread.
Good.
It’s looking more and more like the Rams will be the only show in town. I hate the idea of them sharing a stadium.
I do too. Which – to me – was what was most significant about the Las Vegas story: that the Raiders could very well stay away from LA.
And that is why I posted the blurb about the San Diego stadium proposal in this thread as a response. But the next time I visited the board, the San Diego post had been excised from this thread, and placed all by itself in a new thread with an ungodly question mark in the title.
So I figured that maniac zn (probably, since he started this thread) was more interested in the Las Vegas/gambling issue, and found San Diego to be an unholy diversion from his crusade to discuss gambling issues. Being the nice guy I am, I obliged. Being the demon spawn that I am, I fired off that last line to let him know that I know what he’s up to, just so he watches his behavior in the future. (And now I have diabolically succeeded in distracting from Las Vegas).
You fool. You fell right into Lord Foul’s trap. Don’t you see that he wanted you to detract attention from Las Vegas? That was his plan. He wanted two threads in which to express his unholy love for all things San Diego but he couldn’t violate the natural laws of the board by creating his own San Diego thread after you already posted about it. But he knew that if he created a separate San Diego thread with your post you would feel slighted and try to hijack this thread away from the topic of Las Vegas. Now that this thread has essentially been rendered topicless, he now has two threads in which to post about San Diego. So, thanks to you, we will now be buried in a landslide of posts about Sea World and the Midway Museum.
April 27, 2016 at 3:04 pm #42700ZooeyModeratorThe Horror!
April 27, 2016 at 3:40 pm #42702znModeratorActually the gambling issue doesn’t interest me at all. The moving issue does though.
Sorry I moved the post, Z, I just thought it was a separate topic and that one or the other topic would get buried as a result. Do you want me to move it back here? Not a problem if so.
April 27, 2016 at 9:14 pm #42726ZooeyModeratorActually the gambling issue doesn’t interest me at all. The moving issue does though.
Sorry I moved the post, Z, I just thought it was a separate topic and that one or the other topic would get buried as a result. Do you want me to move it back here? Not a problem if so.
I couldn’t possibly care less.
It’s slow around here, so I decided to complain recreationally. Had fun doing it, too.
April 27, 2016 at 9:21 pm #42727znModeratorIt’s slow around here, so I decided to complain recreationally. Had fun doing it, too.
Well be careful how you treat the mods Z. Cause you do know what banning here means, right? It means you can NEVER leave.
April 28, 2016 at 8:31 pm #42780ZooeyModeratorApril 29, 2016 at 1:11 am #42792znModeratorCommitment made:
Raiders commit to Vegas, offer $500 million for stadium: 4 things to know
Raiders owner Mark Davis is finally putting his money where his mouth is.
During a presentation in front of the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee (SNTIC) on Thursday, Davis pledged to put $500 million toward a new stadium in Las Vegas if the rest of the funding is ultimately approved by the Nevada State Legislature.
“Together we can turn the Silver State into the silver and black state,” Davis told the SNTIC, via the Associated Press.
Davis’ money would go toward a $1.33 billion stadium project that’s been proposed by the The Las Vegas Sands casino group and Majestic Realty.
The domed-stadium would be built on an empty 42-acre lot that’s literally right next door to McCarran Airport and just blocks from the strip. In the clip below, you can see the airport, followed by the 42-acre stadium site, followed by the strip.
Initial plans for the new stadium call for a 65,000-seat dome that could be built with a retractable roof at an extra cost of about $55 million. The new stadium is tentatively planned to contain 100 luxury suites and 6,000 club seats.
Here’s four things to know about a possible Raiders move.
1. Davis seems dead serious about moving his team.
Davis has been talking about moving the Raiders for years, but for the most part, everything he said came across as an empty threat because there was no viable stadium plan in place.
That’s not the case in Vegas, where Davis is being backed by billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, the man who owns the Sands Casino group. The two have a viable plan in place that would call for $650 million of the stadium to be paid for with private funding.
Out of the $650 million, $150 million would come from Adelson’s group and the rest would come from Davis and the NFL. Of the $500 million that was committed to the project by Davis, $200 million of that would come from league.
Davis and the league offered a total of $600 million to Oakland (with $300 million from the NFL), but the Bay Area city hasn’t figured out a way to fund the rest of a possible new stadium. Oakland has made it clear that public financing isn’t an option there.
In Vegas, the final $680 million in stadium costs would be paid for by a proposed hotel tax that would mostly hit the pocketbook of tourists.
At the end of Thursday’s meeting, Davis made it clear that his team is serious about Vegas.
“We have made a commitment to Las Vegas and that’s where it stands,” Davis said, via ESPN.com. “If Las Vegas can come through, we’ll be the Las Vegas Raiders.”
2. What’s the timeline on a possible move?
This is still up in the air, but things could move fast.
Public funding for the stadium has to be approved by the Nevada State Legislature, and it would likely have a strong chance of going through if the SNTIC recommends it, which seems like almost a foregone conclusion.
The problem for Davis and the Raiders is that the Nevada State Legislature isn’t scheduled to meet again until February. By that time, the Raiders should know if the Chargers are moving to Los Angeles or not.
If the Chargers stay in San Diego, then the Raiders would have the option to move to L.A.
Proponents of the Vegas stadium said on Thursday that they would request a special session of the Nevada State Legislature that would meet in August. If that happens and the funding passes, then this thing could move quickly.
Building the stadium would take about 36 months and Davis said his team would spend that time in Oakland, where they have a lease that allows them to play until 2018. The Raiders would then move to Vegas in time for the 2019 season. To build fan interest for the pending move, the Raiders would “try and play at least one preseason game per year” in Vegas, according to Davis.
Basically, even if everything goes perfectly according to plan for Vegas, the Raiders wouldn’t be playing there until 2019.
3. Will NFL owners back a move to Vegas?
Although NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has made it clear on several occasions that the league is staunchly against gambling, he seems to be more and more open to a Vegas move by the day.
Goodell was asked about a possible Raiders move to Vegas while meeting with reporters at the NFL Draft on Wednesday.
“The Raiders were given permission by other clubs to evaluate their options and to consider their alternatives, and they’re doing that,” Goodell said, via the Los Angeles Times. “They know that it’s subject to a vote.”
The Raiders need 24 out of 32 owners to OK their move and if the team gets that, it doesn’t sound like Goodell is going to stand in its way. The Rams, Chargers, Cowboys, Texans and 49ers would all probably favor a move (it would keep the Raiders from potentially landing in their markets), so theoretically, Davis would only need to convince 18 other owners.
Davis also thinks that owners will open their arms to Vegas when they see the stadium proposal.
“We know what the NFL is looking for,” Davis told the SNTIC, via the San Jose Mercury News. “I believe if we give them an offer they can’t refuse and that’s what we are talking about right now, I don’t see a problem. We’ll fight for it.”
4. Where will the Raiders end up?
Davis is going to go wherever he can get the best deal and right now, that seems like Vegas. The sportsbooks in Vegas love putting odds on things, and if there were odds on the Raiders relocation, you’d have to say that Vegas is the new favorite on the board.
Of course, if things fall through in Vegas and the Chargers stay in San Diego, there’s a good chance the Raiders end up in L.A. The one thing to keep in mind with Vegas is that, although Davis is pledging some serious money, he hasn’t signed any sort of contract, which means he can back out of anything at any time.
Despite that, the one thing that’s clear here is that the city with the longest odds right now is the city that the Raiders are already in: Oakland.
The Raiders last played a game in Vegas in 1964, when they played a preseason game in Sin City. Davis doesn’t think he’ll be waiting another 50 years to see his team play there again.
“With your help it won’t be another 50 years before the Raiders play another game in Las Vegas,” Davis said.
As for the Raiders, they weren’t tipping their hand on where they might end up.
“The Raiders would like to thank the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee and Mayor Goodman for their time today as we continue to explore options for a permanent stadium solution,” the team said in a statement. “We appreciate the support and passion of Raiders fans everywhere.”
May 21, 2016 at 9:36 pm #44454znModeratorNFL in Las Vegas is a lead-pipe lock, with or without Raiders
Vinnie Iyer
The NFL no longer can hide its cards — it’s ready to go all in on Las Vegas.
The quickest draw to get there is relocating the Raiders from Oakland, and team owner Mark Davis has $500 million ready to make it happen.
First, the possibility of that happening wasn’t ruled out by Roger Goodell. Then the commissioner expressed how the league is “evolving” in its stance in being more associated with legalized gambling.
Then came the Vegas endorsement of the Cowboys’ Jerry Jones, arguably the league’s most powerful owner. It went to another level Friday when another NFL heavyweight billionaire, the Patriots’ Robert Kraft, gave his blessing to the Raiders, via USA Today.
“I think it would be good for the NFL,” Kraft said. “I know Mark Davis has tried so hard in Oakland. If they won’t do it … I want to support him.”
Vegas and its mayor, Carolyn Goodman, are waiting with open arms. It has taken a long time for the NFL power players to open their minds. As Goodell said in April and Jones earlier this month, Kraft echoed the sentiment that the so-called risks associated with Vegas no longer outweigh the entertainment reward.
In NFL-owner speak, that means everyone who counts has realized that Vegas, like Los Angeles for the Rams, is bigger money in the bank. Now that weekly fantasy football has blurred the lines of gambling on NFL games, that’s no longer a hurdle in profiting from a team in Sin City.
It means the pitch Davis made to the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee in late April, offering to spend half a billion to help build a $1.6 billion, 64,000-seat stadium on the Las Vegas Strip, has a lot more legs. It already had some when more photogenic soccer superstar David Beckham joined Davis in pitching that the stadium would also bring a Major League Soccer team to Las Vegas.
“To bring a great organization like the Raiders is incredible, but it’s bigger than that,” said Beckham, who also has business ties to the stadium-backing Sands Corporation.
The NFL is realizing how big it could be in its next stage of westward re-expansion. It’s no longer just a way for Davis to create better leverage against Oakland. Jones and Kraft wield great influence on the other owners, and along with Goodell, they can work to get 24 of the 32 needed to approve the Raiders’ move.
While the Raiders are becoming a stronger bet for Vegas, it’s clear that the league has thought a lot more about expanding its reach there with any team. It’s the No. 40 television market and growing, ahead of current NFL cities Green Bay, Buffalo, New Orleans and Jacksonville. It’s not too far behind Cincinnati, Kansas City, Nashville and San Diego.
Unlike all those cities, Las Vegas opens the NFL to new revenue streams. It’s the hub for two things hugely responsible for the league’s booming popularity: fantasy football and gambling. It’s a great place to give the Pro Bowl needed pizzazz and make the draft an even more marquee event. Imagine what Super Bowl week would be like, never having to leave The Strip. As MLS and the NHL also look to plant pro teams in Vegas, the NFL should be extra motivated to jump in and dominate another sports market.
London and Mexico City still have their appeals, too, but they work better as satellite sites for NFL teams. Vegas, with L.A., would form a much better 1-2 punch than going overseas and south of the border. It keeps the NFL right in the heart of the action that’s made it so profitable.
The NFL doesn’t need to pretend it’s a moral authority on anything anymore, least of which is its fans betting on its games. Whether it’s out of need or greed, Vegas will be part of the league soon.[
May 22, 2016 at 6:44 am #44457PA RamParticipantEvery time London comes up I just shake my head. Are they serious? How on earth could that be workable? I’d hate to be the team that plays in London. Those guys won’t make a season. After 8 games of travel to the states they’ll be exhausted. Logistically, I just don’t see how it all works.
The only way I see this expansion into the world working is by having half the league in Europe and the other half in the states and the winner from each league plays the championship–like the old AFL/NFL.
But that’s never going to happen.
Having a team in France, Germany, England, Mexico, China—I don’t get it. I think they may try to move the brand there but I don’t see it mixing with the NFL here–I see it seperate–it’s own thing but the NFL owns it and makes money.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
May 26, 2016 at 7:22 pm #44801znModeratorSouthern Nevada committee to work on funding $1.4 billion stadium
By RICHARD N. VELOTTA
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNALWhen the 11-member Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee begins
work Thursday on how to pay for a $1.4 billion, 65,000-seat domed stadium,
it will try to piece together a funding strategy that will keep everyone
happy with their return on investment.Don’t count on that being an easy task.
And don’t count on the stadium being a done deal.
Some critics of the stadium proposal already have made their position perfectly
clear — don’t contribute a single dime of taxpayer money toward a project that’s
bound to generate profits for developer Las Vegas Sands Corp. and the Oakland
— or is it Las Vegas? — Raiders.The pro-stadium side is equally passionate. An indoor football stadium is a
genuine need that can boost Southern Nevada’s tourism economy, they say. Southern
Nevada is missing out on many entertainment acts and athletic events because
of the lack of a large venue.A new stadium also would solve a longtime problem that has vexed the University
of Nevada, Las Vegas: the lack of a stadium close to campus that would boost
student support and advance the prominence of an athletic program with major-
conference ambitions.Attracting the Raiders to Las Vegas, in the eyes of supporters, would be icing
on the cake. The venue can be a success without an NFL tenant, stadium backers
say. But it sure would be nice for Las Vegas to join that elite club of cities
that have a team in the nation’s most popular team sports league.Steve Hill, director of the Governor’s Office of Economic Development and
chairman of the committee tasked with forwarding recommendations on tourism
infrastructure improvements to Gov. Brian Sandoval, said the financing package
is so complex that he expects at least two more meetings after Thursday’s session
to complete it.OPTION CALLS FOR 54-46 SPLIT
When Las Vegas Sands and Majestic Realty rolled out plans to build a stadium on
42 acres just east of the MGM Grand at Tropicana Avenue and Koval Lane, they
hired Conventions, Sports & Leisure International of Plano, Texas, to guide the
committee through possible financing options.Bill Rhoda, president of CSL, has presented details of those options and has
shown how stadium developers in other cities have financed their projects.CSL has worked on 31 professional football stadiums since its founding in 1988,
including the new homes of the NFL’s San Francisco 49ers and Minnesota Vikings.
Closer to Las Vegas, the company also worked on Aces Ballpark, the minor league
baseball stadium in downtown Reno.On the table in Las Vegas is a public-private partnership calling for $750
million from the public and $650 million from the private sector, or a
54 percent-46 percent split.From the private partners would come a $500 million contribution from the
Raiders — $300 million of that in the form of a loan from the NFL — and $150
million from casino operator Las Vegas Sands and Majestic. The exact sources of
the $750 million in public money remains unsettled. That’s where much of the
detail work remains.The key question: Is the deal fair to all parties?
Rhoda identified 46 annual events at the stadium if the NFL is in the mix.
They include 10 home NFL football dates (two preseason and eight regular-season
NFL games), six UNLV football dates, two college football bowl games (including
the current Las Vegas Bowl), two neutral-site college football games, two soccer
events, four rugby events, three motorsports events and one top-draw boxing
or mixed martial arts event.Hill said the number of events staged will drive the economics.
“Do we think we can get to 46? What we’ll probably do is carve 10 events out and
see what that looks like and then carve another 10 out and see what that looks
like,” he said. “We have to stress-test the model, maybe take it from 46 to 20
or somewhere in between and get a range of potential outcomes.”Guessing right on the number of events the stadium could hold is critical to
determining return on investment and whether the amount of money plowed into
the facility would be worth it to taxpayers, who stand to see less money available
for schools, roads, parks and other projects tax revenues currently support.But the upside would be more money for those needs and projects if the stadium
does what proponents say it will.ANSWERS NEEDED BY JULY 31
CSL estimated an average turnstile attendance of 40,000 at those 46 events,
resulting in an estimated 1.8 million visitors and 845,000 new hotel room nights.The CSL report noted that spending by visitors at events consists of in-stadium
spending on tickets, concessions, merchandise and parking, as well as out-of-
stadium spending on lodging, food and beverage, shopping, entertainment,
transportation, gaming and other services. The report estimates per-capita
out-of-stadium spending by overnight visitors at $642 per person per day, and
65 percent of out-of-stadium visitor spending is considered “net new” — it
would not be spent without the presence of the stadium.When the committee meets Thursday, it will dig into four pages of detailed
questions the group wants answered before buying into public stadium support.
Among them: Is the UNLV site an appropriate location? What portion, if any, of
the cost should be paid by the public? What happens if stadium revenues fall
short? Is it reasonable to expect 46 events per year?The committee is working toward a July 31 deadline to make its recommendations.
A $1.4 billion Las Vegas Convention Center expansion project and several transit
proposals are also under consideration.“I think wrapping something up (on the stadium) before July is not possible,”
Hill said. “I’ve even asked the committee to reserve a date between the June
and July meetings to continue to work on it.”In addition to determining whether the existing tax structure pencils out as a
wise return on investment, the committee probably will look at whether the
Legislature should be asked to increase tax rates on existing services. Committee
members already have indicated they have little appetite for bumping up taxes
that would directly affect local residents, especially because locals would
pay more through the live entertainment tax if a stadium is built.WHERE DOES BURDEN FALL?
In theory, generating tax revenue through hotel room and rental car rates shifts
most of the burden to visitors, though residents occasionally rent vehicles or
land in resorts for “staycations.” But for entertainment events, there is no
chance for locals to dodge the live entertainment tax currently imposed.County hotel room and car rental tax revenue is expected to climb, as would
their corresponding state revenue: sales taxes, gaming taxes (officials anticipate
sports fans would tend to gamble) and the state modified business tax, since new
employees would be hired if the stadium is built and an NFL team were to relocate
here.There appears to be room to increase the room tax. Between the state and the
county, the hotel room tax is at about 12 percent, just under Orlando’s 12.5
percent rate and Phoenix’s 12.57 percent. And it’s well below New York’s 14.75
percent rate, Dallas’ 15 percent, Chicago’s 16.39 percent and Houston’s 17 percent.Committee members also could ask the Legislature to form a tax-increment
district. The boundaries of a special tourism taxing district would be open to
debate. Would it include only the stadium site’s 42 acres or would it include
property around it? And if so, how far from the stadium would the district extend
to grab revenues from businesses that would benefit from proximity to the stadium?The CSL report suggested a TID to last 65 years and feed a stadium authority, which
would operate much like the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority, to build
and manage the facility.The committee will also look at how new stadiums have been funded. They include:
* U.S. Bank Stadium, which this year will open as the home to the NFL’s Minnesota
Vikings. About 45 percent of the 68,500-seat stadium’s $1.1 billion budget is
being covered by taxpayers, with Minneapolis residents seeing a half-percentage-
point increase in the sales tax and as much as a 3 percentage-point boost in
taxes on liquor, lodging and restaurants through 2046. The state also authorized
a tax exemption on construction materials for the stadium, which is also exempt
from property taxes.* Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, where the public is contributing only 16
percent of the cost of the $1.5 billion, 71,000-seat home of the Atlanta Falcons,
to open in 2017. The Georgia General Assembly in 2010 approved the extension of
a 7 percent tax on motel and hotel rooms through 2050 contingent on 39.3 percent
of the revenue being used to build the stadium.* Levi’s Stadium, home to the San Francisco 49ers and host of February’s Super
Bowl 50, cost $1.3 billion to build and seats 68,500. Only 1 percent of the cost
was publicly financed. The city of Santa Clara, California, contributed $11
million. Prepayment of luxury boxes supporting a Goldman Sachs-led loan from
17 lenders covered most of the bill.Examining those projects and others may generate new ideas, but the core issue
in Las Vegas is whether the stadium plan is fair and whether the public will
share the benefits if the stadium is a roaring success.“This should be a business conversation, an economic conversation,” Hill said.
:So far, what we’ve talked about is more conceptual than getting into real
detail — what’s the projected return on investment from the private side and
what’s the economic benefit to the community for the public side and how to
determine the definition of ‘fair’ and, separately, ‘smart?’ ““I think what you’ll find is that if we get 40 to 50 events, the stadium becomes
pretty lucrative for everybody involved. We have to ask the question about the
potential for the public to share in the upside. Early on, they (developers)
said no, but that needs to be aired because the truth is that if it’s very
successful, the return on investment will be very high. It would help to buy
down the public investment.”——————————————————————————–
——————————————————————————–Tim Leiweke’s NFL connections help Las Vegas’ case for a team
By MATT YOUMANS
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNALhttp://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/nfl-vegas/tim-leiweke-s-nfl-connections-help-las-vegas-case-team
Everything unfolded in slow motion in Los Angeles, so Tim Leiweke is ready to
punch the fast-forward button.“I spent almost 10 years chasing the NFL in L.A.,” he said. “This is a guy who
got beat up for 10 years.”Leiweke laughed and called it “shocking” how quickly Las Vegas could land an
NFL franchise.In just a few months, with Leiweke in the middle of the action, the Raiders’
potential relocation from Oakland to Las Vegas has moved from an entertainment
topic to serious business. If a stadium is built and the whirlwind plan becomes
reality, Leiweke will play an integral role.Much of his career has been about making arena and stadium deals. The former
CEO of Anschutz Entertainment Group, Leiweke led the Staples Center project
in Los Angeles before striking a deal with MGM Resorts International to construct
T-Mobile Arena on the Strip. He also had a brief run as president of Maple Leaf
Sports and Entertainment in Toronto before resigning.Leiweke, now the CEO of Oak View Group, an L.A.-based entertainment advisory,
development and investment company, adds credibility and influential connections
to the Las Vegas stadium drive, which will be discussed at 8 a.m. Thursday by
the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee at UNLV’s Stan Fulton Building.A proposed $1.4 billion, 65,000-seat stadium near the Strip would be funded
through a public-private partnership including the Raiders, Majestic Realty and
Las Vegas Sands Corp., which is using Leiweke as a consultant to help lead the
campaign.“There is such a huge need in the marketplace for a stadium. It’s the one thing
that city’s missing,” Leiweke said. “It’s easily justifiable. We’ve got to get a
deal that makes sense to everybody.“The deal can get done. It’s all sitting right there. It’s shocking.”
How well-connected is Leiweke? His younger brother, Tod, was named chief operating
officer of the NFL in July.Tim Leiweke also has years of experience working with NFL commissioner Roger
Goodell and Eric Grubman, the league’s executive vice president of business
operations. Grubman, who was intricately involved in the Rams’ relocation from
St. Louis to Los Angeles early this year, is closely monitoring the situation
with the Raiders and Las Vegas.It’s fair to assume Tim Leiweke’s connections could help Las Vegas gain favor
in the NFL’s front office.“It’s not just one relationship, and not just a blood relationship,” Tim Leiweke
said. “I have a very good relationship with Eric, with Roger and with a lot of
the owners. The NFL is more aligned with this than you would think.”Leiweke’s company played a role in a major venue announcement this week. Las
Vegas Sands and The Madison Square Garden Co. are partnering with Azoff MSG
Entertainment, Live Nation Entertainment Inc. and Leiweke’s Oak View Group to
build a 17,500-seat off-Strip venue designed for live music performances.As we navigate this whole stadium issue and the NFL, Tim’s input has been
insightful. He’s a real value add,”said Rob Goldstein, president and chief
operating officer of Las Vegas Sands. “He’s a straight shooter, and he doesn’t
say things he doesn’t back up. We think there’s a real chance this is going
to happen.”Las Vegas’ sudden emergence as a potential NFL city is not a mirage in the
desert. It was one of the biggest topics of the NFL Spring Meeting on Tuesday,
when team owners and league executives gathered in Charlotte, North Carolina,
to discuss future Super Bowl sites, rules changes and the future of the Raiders.Tim Leiweke’s focus is on the financing strategy for a stadium in Las Vegas.
He called Thursday’s meeting of the tourism infrastructure committee “critical”
in terms of advancing the project.The current proposal calls for $750 million from the public and $650 million
from private sources. The Raiders would contribute $500 million, including a
$300 million loan from the NFL, with Las Vegas Sands/Majestic Realty adding
$150 million. The revenue sources for the $750 million public contribution must
be decided by the Nevada Legislature.“My guess is this gets closer to a 50-50 partnership when it’s all said and
done,” said Leiweke, adding “there is room” in Las Vegas’ hotel tax rate of
around 12 percent to draw more tax money from tourists.“I think there’s a fairly reasonable concept on how to fund it, and it doesn’t
cost the people of Las Vegas any additional money,” said Leiweke, who is
assisting retired soccer star David Beckham in a plan to build a stadium
in Miami. It’s not increasing taxes on the people who live there.“The only way it doesn’t happen is if people turn down the deal for whatever
reason, and I don’t see that happening. There is real momentum for this.”Leiweke said he estimates the Las Vegas stadium could host “50 to 60, maybe
more” events per year, including eight regular-season games and two preseason
games for the Raiders. It also would be the new home for UNLV football.“I’ve been doing this a long time, and I’m actually really optimistic,”
Leiweke said. “I am pleasantly surprised. I think things are coming together.
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Las Vegas Raiders?
Commissioner Roger Goodell called the Raiders-to-Vegas talk “very premature” at the NFL’s quarterly league meeting last week in Charlotte, and that’s true. The potential move wasn’t an official agenda item at the meeting, because much is still TBD. The Nevada state legislature would need to approve any amount of public financing for a new stadium ($750 million has been proposed), and team owner Mark Davis said the Raiders are just beginning market research to see if the city of about 600,000 can support a local fan base.
That research usually takes a couple months to complete. But there was plenty of chatter on the matter in Charlotte. Davis billed Las Vegas as a venue that could unite the Raiders’ Northern and Southern California fan bases, and Cowboys owner Jerry Jones continued stumping for the entertainment appeal of the city over the league’s traditional aversion to having any ties to gambling. Since NFL bylaws require 24 of 32 owners to vote “yes” to approve any relocation bid, I polled a handful of owners, asking each the question: If everything lines up, would you vote to put a team in Vegas?
John Mara, Giants: “I’m open-minded. I would want to hear a presentation about it and the pros and cons, and obviously there are some concerns, but I am not going to rule it out. The gambling, is the market deep enough to support an NFL team, what kind of stadium would be there, what kind of support are they going to get from the community? Those would be the concerns.”
Do you think attitudes have changed within the league re:gambling?
“You might be right. But until there is actually a presentation with all the pros and cons, I wouldn’t bet one way or the other at this point.”
Bob McNair, Texans: “I would look favorably at it. I would like to hear all the arguments, make sure we are not overlooking something. But you have gambling all around you now, lotteries on every street corner. I don’t think it is the issue we viewed it to be 20 years ago. We want Oakland to get a good facility, and have stability with their franchise, and if this is an opportunity to do that, then I think it is something we need to seriously consider.”
Jeffrey Lurie, Eagles: “I’d be open to it. My only question is, is it a really good NFL market? I’m not totally worried about a lot of other things. I am more worried, is it a great market for the NFL? I don’t know enough about that. I never thought about it much before. It has to support 70,000 every weekend. It is not an NBA team, like say the Thunder, which does an incredible job of supporting their smaller market. We have got to make sure it really will support a team if a team goes there, but I am open to it.”
Jed York, 49ers: “I will wait to see, but if there is something that provides all the resources necessary, they go through all the steps and it is a project that works, I’d be supportive of the Raiders getting a new stadium anywhere. I know the Raiders have worked tirelessly to try to get a stadium done. It’s been difficult trying to move and have much progress in Oakland. They have been very upfront that they would like to stay, and if not, they need to make sure that they find a long-term home and long-term solution. … I think the stigma about Las Vegas is much different today than where it was in the past.”
Woody Johnson, Jets: “Las Vegas is a very exciting market. Nevada is a very good place from a tax standpoint, very low taxes and no income tax. It depends what the deal is with the stadium, and with operating it, and what the league and Mark [Davis] feel are the opportunities there—if he feels he can fill up the stadium and get enough economic traction there with sponsors and all that. … I don’t know if [gambling] is as dominant an issue now as it was 10 years ago.”
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