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May 6, 2015 at 1:40 pm #24187znModerator
This is just various stuff I took off the net about 2 former Fisher/Boudreau right tackles. Both were part of very good offenses in their time. In 2008, the Falcons ran a deadly power run/ball control passing offense with Ryan and Michael Turner. Boudreau of course was their OL coach. Clabo, their ROT, was a big part of that. Everyone knows about the Titans offense with Chris Johnson back when Fisher had them.
The thing is, though—reading their scouting reports. They sound like Havenstein.
As I said the reports are from off the net.
Rob Havenstein
Height: 6-7 Weight: 321 lbs.Massive tackle with very functional length. Aggressive, play-finishing demeanor on the field.
David Stewart
Height: 6-7 Weight: 318 lbs.Drafted by the Titans in round 4 of the 2005 draft. Started in 2006. According to the wiki, “he was a member of an offensive line that allowed an NFL-low 12 quarterback sacks in 2008 and was named to the 2008 All-Pro Second Team.”
David Stewart is a physical, hard-nosed right tackle that excels at the point of attack. Nicknamed “Big Country,” the Alabama native is an intense competitor that mauls defenders in the run game and provides solid protection in the aerial attack. His soft-spoken demeanor and country mannerisms off the field run in sharp contrast with his tough, aggressive presence on the gridiron.
Tyson Clabo
Height: 6-6 Weight: 314 lbsUDFA signed by Denver in 2004, released and picked up by the Giants, released and picked up by the Chargers, released and picked up again by Denver, released and picked up by the Falcons in 2005. In 2006 he started; in 2010 he was a Pro Bowl selection.
Tyson Clabo, T, Atlanta Falcons: He’s a tough-guy right tackle who makes up for his lack of athletic ability with a fighter’s mentality. He uses all the tricks of the trade.
May 6, 2015 at 3:02 pm #24193ZooeyModeratorAnd it appears that every OL the Rams drafted this year has that “mauler” mentality. They all just keep going, and keep hitting people.
I tell you, that kind of mindset makes up for talent deficiencies. Obviously, you would like both in a player, but I think I’d rather sacrifice some size or length or technique for attitude, then get another Barron.
And Greg Robinson was described the same way. In the 4th quarter, if you have an OL that just keeps on hitting, they are just going to wear guys down.
May 6, 2015 at 3:30 pm #24194HerzogParticipantAnd it appears that every OL the Rams drafted this year has that “mauler” mentality. They all just keep going, and keep hitting people.
I tell you, that kind of mindset makes up for talent deficiencies. Obviously, you would like both in a player, but I think I’d rather sacrifice some size or length or technique for attitude, then get another Barron.
And Greg Robinson was described the same way. In the 4th quarter, if you have an OL that just keeps on hitting, they are just going to wear guys down.
So theoretically, the run game gets harder to stop as the game goes on. Wouldn’t that be interesting to see.
May 6, 2015 at 10:28 pm #24225znModeratorThey all just keep going, and keep hitting people.. . .I think I’d rather sacrifice some size or length or technique for attitude, then get another Barron.
I think before, Schott dominated the thinking on offensive strategy and approaches. Yes, within guidelines Fisher set, but still.
Now, it seems to me, Cigz does not have enough battle merit badges yet to be at the head of the table. He’s more of an engineer at this point. I think the guys dominating thinking about offense are a combination of Boudreau and Fisher. These are all Boudreau-style linemen. If Boudreau had any say in it I doubt he would ever have drafted Barron.
Just doing some speculatorizatation here.
May 7, 2015 at 2:20 am #24246znModeratorfwiw, a lot of people have also brought up Jon Runyan as a comparison. Although Runyan went on to fame and glory as the Eagles ROT, before free agency, he was a 4th round pick of the Fisher Titans in 1996 (same year Rams drafted Fred Miller btw). In fact—Runyan played ROT for the Titans in the 99 superbowl.
(That was some line btw. And one of the reasons the Titans could fight back into the game in the 2nd half. They were loaded—Brad Hopkins, Bruce Matthews, Jon Runyan.)
Well, in a recent Cosell-cast on 101, the 101 guys asked GC about the Runyan comparison. He said yeah, good comparison, it fits.
None of these guys—Runyan, Stewart, Clabo—was a dancing bear type athletic tackle. They were all smart, nasty, tough, and field strong. And big. (Runyan was 6’7″/330). They were also all signature ROTs in their day.
If this goes the way it should, Havenstein will be right up there with them.
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