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September 28, 2014 at 11:18 am #8628znModerator
Cosell is on Ross Tucker, and Davis comes up mid-conversation. Cosell btw thinks the pick 6 INT was kind of a unique thing and not indicative.
They’re discussing qb decision-making as a talent. Davis comes up at around 10:50 in.
Go to the link, http://www.rosstucker.com/wp/podcasts/ross-tucker-football-podcast/
and scroll down to find this:
September 29, 2014 at 5:30 pm #8696RamBillParticipantKeeping perspective on Austin Davis’ hot start
By Nick Wagonerhttp://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/12159/keeping-perspective-on-austin-davis-hot-start
EARTH CITY, Mo. — When the St. Louis Rams travel to Philadelphia to take on the Eagles this Sunday, Austin Davis should be the starter at quarterback.
I wrote as much after Davis’ performance against the Dallas Cowboys, and obviously nothing has happened in the time since that has made me change my mind. Many of you feel the same way. And, for what it’s worth, I still believe coach Jeff Fisher will give Davis another shot against the Eagles. I know he has repeatedly said a healthy Shaun Hill will take the job back when he returns from an injured calf, but Davis has earned the shot.
Either way, it’s important to put what Davis did in starts against Tampa Bay and Dallas in perspective. In Davis’ two starts, he is 52-of-71 for 562 yards with three touchdowns and two interceptions for a passer rating of 98.4 and a QBR of 77.5. His completion percentage of 72.3 is the best in the NFL, and he is eighth in the league in yards per attempt at 8.02.
Against the Cowboys, Davis was 30-of-42 for 327 yards with three touchdowns and two interceptions as the Rams came up short.
Let’s take a look at a couple of former or current Rams who got their first opportunity in circumstances similar to Davis and how they fared in their first two starts and what happened after:
Ryan Fitzpatrick: The Rams used a seventh-round pick on Fitzpatrick in 2005. Like Davis, Fitzpatrick began the season as the third-string quarterback behind Marc Bulger and Jamie Martin. On Nov. 27 against the Houston Texans, Fitzpatrick entered the game in place of Martin and went on to energize the team, completing 19-of-30 for 310 yards, three touchdowns and an interception. The effort was similar to Davis’ work against the Cowboys in that it came against a fledgling defense and the numbers appeared the same. A week later, Fitzpatrick was 21-of-36 for 136 yards with no touchdowns and an interception. Doubts began to creep in about whether he should continue to start, and those doubts came to fruition later when he threw five interceptions in a loss to Minnesota. Fitzpatrick has gone on to a nice career that has seen him bounce from Cincinnati to Buffalo to Houston, where he is currently the starter.
Case Keenum: Like Davis, Keenum entered the league as an undrafted free agent with the Texans. After the Rams destroyed the Texans in Week 6 last season, Houston turned to the hometown favorite to take over for Matt Schaub. Also like Davis, Keenum offered immediate results. In his first two starts, Keenum was 35-of-59 for 621 yards, four touchdowns and no interceptions for a passer rating of 118.0 and a QBR of 74.8. Those numbers even exceeded what Davis has done in his first two starts, but the Texans were unable to win either game. From there, Keenum went on to get six more starts, and though he sprinkled in some strong outings (particularly against New England), the Texans were 0-8 with Keenum starting. Now, Keenum is on the Rams’ roster providing depth behind Davis.
Of course, Fitzpatrick and Keenum are just two examples of backup quarterbacks who made a splash when they first got starting opportunities but then came back to Earth a bit after. Some backups have gone on to greater success, some have gone on to worse. Davis does have the advantage of being in his third NFL season as opposed to Fitzpatrick and Keenum, who were rookies when they got their first opportunities.
Really, what happens with Davis from here is simple. If he keeps producing, he should keep starting. If he doesn’t, the Rams can go back to Hill. Assuming Davis gets the next start, we will learn a lot more about him as the Rams get into the teeth of their schedule.
In the meantime, there is little reason to make a big announcement to declare Davis the starter for the rest of the season. To borrow the cliché from coaches and players all over the league, Davis’ position as starter should be taken one game at a time.
September 30, 2014 at 8:23 pm #8765RamBillParticipantMaking the Case for Austin Davis
By Anthony Stalterhttp://www.101sports.com/2014/09/30/making-case-austin-davis/
Without fail, the backup quarterback is once again the most popular player in many cities following Week 4 in the NFL.
In New York, chants of “We Want (Michael) Vick” rang out in MetLife Stadium after Geno Smith threw away another game, then hurled F-bombs at fans as he made his way into the tunnel following a 24-17 loss to the Lions.
In Tampa, the media is once again ready to crown Mike Glennon the future after he led the Bucs to a shocking win over the Steelers in Pittsburgh.
And in Buffalo, Kyle Orton has already been called upon to replace E.J. Manuel, who was benched following another dreadful performance in a loss to the Texans.
Here in St. Louis, intrigue still surrounds the backup quarterback. Or is it the backup to the backup? Who knows.
The Rams will travel to Philadelphia this weekend to play a pissed-off Eagles team that will be looking to right the ship after a disastrous outing in San Francisco on Sunday.
It would have been nice for the Rams to catch the Eagles sleepwalking, coming off yet another narrow victory.
Rather, they’ll see a team that should have all the focus and determination of a Rottweiler playing tug-of-war with a bone.
Regardless of how the Eagles respond to their frustrating 26-21 loss to the Niners, Austin Davis needs to be the starting quarterback for the Rams on Sunday. He needs to be the starter next Monday night when the Rams host those same 49ers, too. And also in Week 7 when the Rams host the Seahawks, and when they travel to Kansas City, San Francisco and Arizona from Week 8 through Week 10.
Frustrated Jets fans need to realize that Vick isn’t the answer. Sure, he may win a few games in the short term and thus make fans feel all warm and fuzzy inside. But that feeling won’t last. Vick will get hurt at some point, and then Rex Ryan would sheepishly have to turn back to Smith, who at that point would know that his team doesn’t believe in him. For better or worse, the Jets need to find out what they have in Smith so that they can make an educated decision on the quarterback position for 2015 and beyond.
It’s no different in St. Louis. The Rams know what they have in Shaun Hill. He’s not the future. He’s not a long-term answer. He’s a 34-year-old journeyman who can step in and manage games. Those types of players certainly have a place in the NFL, but not for teams like the Rams that face uncertainty at the quarterback position.
Davis has completed 72.3 percent of his passes for 754 yards with three touchdowns and three interceptions to go along with a 93.1 QB rating this year. He’s won once on the road, should have won two weeks ago against the Cowboys at home, and has yet to face a defense with even a decent pass rush to this point.
That last part about the pass rush isn’t to negate what Davis has accomplished the past two weeks. On the contrary: I want to see more of Davis.
I want to see how he handles a pass rush like San Francisco is capable of having, or how he fares against a defense like Pete Carroll’s in Seattle. I want to see how he handles playing in a hostile environment like Philadelphia, Seattle and Kansas City. I want to see him fail and then watch as he responds. I want to see his ceiling.
When Sam Bradford re-tore his ACL in preseason, I said that Davis wasn’t the answer. I was wrong. I was wrong because I didn’t know whether he was or not. How could anyone? And if he doesn’t play, how does Jeff Fisher or Les Snead know whether he is or isn’t a viable long-term solution?
Whether or not Hill can manage games is a question that isn’t worth answering. It doesn’t matter in the long-term. What the Rams need to avoid is trying to answer whether or not Davis can play next February, especially seeing as how they can find out over these next three months.
The Rams know about Hill. It’s time to find out about Davis.
October 3, 2014 at 1:31 am #8950RamBillParticipantBurwell: Davis’ new status isn’t set in stone
• By BRYAN BURWELLOn his second day as an official member of pro football’s most exclusive athletic fraternity, the Rams newest starting quarterback Austin Davis was all fun and games after a late-afternoon practice at Rams Park. Inside the locker room, he goofed for the TV cameras with tackle Joe Barksdale as they critiqued a new bobblehead of Robert Quinn.
Davis played the dutiful straight man to Barksdale’s comic routine, deadpanning answers with perfect timing, and of course the camera loved it all. Consider this one of those tiny hidden perks of his new status as one of the 32 starting quarterbacks in the National Football League. There are many others large and small that he will surely discover along the way. Yet every time he walks into that locker room, there are also constant reminders of his not-so-distant past as a member of the NFL transient class.
On the far wall of the room, next to the equipment room window is a small strip of high-end locker-room real estate where the Rams quarterbacks normally take up residence. Sam Bradford is over there. Shaun Hill is over there. Garrett Gilbert is over there. However, Davis’ locker stall is on the other side of the room where his No. 9 sticks out like a sore thumb between the big men with big numbers. Offensive linemen to his left, linebackers to his right.
They gave him that locker stall when he was the fourth-string QB on the depth chart. The world has changed in a whirlwind since then. With two starts under his belt, and enough evidence for Jeff Fisher to officially certify what his actions had been saying for nearly three weeks, the coach told the rest of us on Wednesday that Davis had shown him enough to officially leap over Hill on the depth chart (you know, sort of like what I’ve been telling you for weeks).
“Well Austin’s had a really solid couple of days,” Fisher told a handful of reporters after practice on Thursday. “He’s throwing the ball really well right now. He’s different. He’s got confidence. (I’m) looking forward to watching him play.”
Everything has changed so fast for Davis, but as he blazes forward on his meteoric rise up the Rams depth chart, let’s hope the symbolism of his locker-room real estate is a constant reminder of just how quickly a man’s fate can rise and fall in this demanding performance-related business. The NFL is a coldhearted business that measures your worth by what you put on tape.
Davis’s tape is a mighty fine product so far. Fisher and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer know that the days of those keep-it-close, low-scoring Sundays are no longer the Rams’ blueprint for success. They do not need to slog it out to win games because they now believe they’re capable of putting 30 points on the scoreboard on any given Sunday.
“I think you have to start with the group as a whole,” said Schottenheimer. “Obviously, the weapons that we’ve added or developed. Bringing Kenny Britt in has helped. He can make a lot of plays for us down the field. Jared Cook in Year Two (there has been) big development. Lance Kendricks has gotten a lot better. Just different guys doing it.”
But an equally significant part of this puzzle has been Austin’s ability to run this offense to a higher degree of efficiency than it operated last year when Bradford went down with a knee injury. He can throw with great accuracy in general, but his deep throws are precise as well. That’s why he earned this job weeks ago and Fisher’s announcement on Wednesday was a mere formality.
“Austin’s played very, very well,” said Schottenheimer. “That’s a big part of it. But the credit goes to these guys for the way they’ve worked more than anything because, again, this is nothing that we haven’t seen. We saw it spring, we saw it all training camp against our defense. We’ve got weapons that have the ability to make plays. Again, I think Austin certainly benefits from that, but again the trigger man is going to be the guy that gets a lot of the credit but also is going to take the blame. From day one like I said, in big moments he’s stepped up. The throw he made to (Brian) Quick last week … that’s just a great throw. The guy was kind of bearing down on him. He stood there and threw it.”
So the job is his and he doesn’t have to look over his shoulder, which is smart. Fisher doesn’t want him to worry about a quick hook if he has a bad game, which he inevitably will, because this is the NFL and everyone has a bad game.
What he has to avoid is stringing together a litany of bad games, because just as quickly as he replaced Hill, the entire thing can be reversed.
Oh yes, and just like it was silly to think anyone really needed Fisher to say Davis was the starting quarterback, he doesn’t have to say that he can change back to Hill if need be. This is the NFL, and no one has to be told that if they don’t play well, they don’t play.
October 3, 2014 at 1:00 pm #8980RamBillParticipantOn this episode of Football Friday, Post-Dispatch columnist Bryan Burwell & Rams beat writer Jim Thomas discuss the decision of naming Austin Davis the starting QB & its impact on the Rams squad. They also talk about facing the Eagles.
http://www.rams-news.com/jt-burwells-football-friday-davis-named-starter-video/
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