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    wv
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    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=16430
    What Can Sanders’ Five Representatives Achieve at the DNC?

    Bernie Sanders has appointed five progressive activists and thinkers to the Democratic platform writing committee, hoping to radically change political discussion within the party

    With the Democratic National Convention less than 2 months away, Bernie Sanders has appointed 5 progressive activists and thinkers to the Democratic platform writing committee with the hopes of radically changing political debate within the party.

    His five appointees include prominent scholar and activist Cornel West; Bill McKibbon, founder of 350.org; Minnesota congressman Keith Ellison; Native American activist Deborah Parker; and James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute.

    Ben Norton, a columnist for Salon.com, says their inclusion is a bellwether of future discussions in the Democratic party over issues like the Israel-Palestine Conflict and climate change.

    “I think that it’s certainly possible that their voices may eventually be ignored,” says Norton, “but the fact that they’re already raising these issues is very important and unprecedented.”

    Bill Curry, a former top aide to Bill Clinton who has helped write multiple Democratic Party platforms, says the committee’s work is often ignored. He is also concerned that the Democrat elites are using the appointees to attract supporter from Sander’s base, and are ready to ignore any of their grievances if Hillary Clinton clinches the nomination.

    “So the question here is: how do you get a party not only that adopts a platform that reads well, but that takes that platform seriously?” says Curry. “You do that, I think, by building a strong, independent progressive political movement to hold both parties accountable and not simply act as a Political Action Committee.”

    Six states, including California, will hold their primaries on June 7th. The results are expected to determine the Democratic nominee.

    Bernie Sanders says the Democratic Party will have a contested national convention if he wins California by a large margin.
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    The pledged delegate count is currently 1770 to 1500. That is a difference of 270, with 781 pledged delegates still remaining. (Wikipedia)

    Washington 72.7%
    Idaho 78%
    Utah 79.3%
    Alaska 79.6%
    Vermont 86.1%

    If California hits the mid-seventies, that will change everything. That’s not unrealistic; it’s just uncertain.
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    #45225
    wv
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    “So the question here is: how do you get a party not only that adopts a platform that reads well, but that takes that platform seriously?” says Curry. “You do that, I think, by building a strong, independent progressive political movement to hold both parties accountable and not simply act as a Political Action Committee.
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    Well, i agree with that. And part of that process/approach means (to me)
    NOT falling in line and voting for the corporate-neoliberal-Dem. I just think its time for the left to stop doing that. The corporate-Dem-machine will NEVER listen to the Left if they can always count on the Left to fall in line. As per usual.

    I’d rather see Trump elected and crack open the Dem Party,
    than see Hillary elected and the corporotacracy go on as usual.

    I know zn doesn’t think a Trump win would crack open the Dem party,
    but a Hillary win will seal the Dem Party up for maybe decades. If she wins, they will continue to follow that ‘winning formula’ for decades.

    Personally, i aint ever voting for another neoliberal. Aint doin it.

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    #45228
    joemad
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    Cornel West; Bill McKibbon, founder of 350.org; Minnesota congressman Keith Ellison; Native American activist Deborah Parker; and James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute.

    it’s the usual suspects from Bill Maher’s panel on his show with the exception of Zogby, who has also been a guest on his show… coincidentally, I’ve been a fan of Sanders for years , thanks to Bill Maher’s show….

    BTW: The presidential candidates have been in and out of Cali the past few weeks…… One of my fishing buddies is in love with Trump, no matter what he says…………. we fish the California Delta quite a bit. The CA delta water has been a hot topic over the past 30 years….my fishing buddy has always been against diverting water to farmers in So Cal to grow crops in the desert….. but even after Trump declared that he doesn’t give a shit about the delta smelt, my buddy is still pro Trump…..

    I think Trump supporters like him because he gets want he wants, it’s certainly not what he says….

    #45229
    bnw
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    I think Trump supporters like him because he gets want he wants, it’s certainly not what he says….

    It is definitely what he says as well as his willingness to stand up to the BS attacks and hit back hard. When a candidate can manage to piss off and freak out establishment democrats and republicans, neocons, the punditocracy and the MSM he or she most likely gets my vote. He’ll get into office not owing anyone anything. Thats too scary for the entrenched parasitic interests sucking our economy into the shitter while shredding our Bill of Rights.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #45232
    Zooey
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    Well, i agree with that. And part of that process/approach means (to me)
    NOT falling in line and voting for the corporate-neoliberal-Dem. I just think its time for the left to stop doing that. The corporate-Dem-machine will NEVER listen to the Left if they can always count on the Left to fall in line. As per usual.

    I’d rather see Trump elected and crack open the Dem Party,
    than see Hillary elected and the corporotacracy go on as usual.

    I know zn doesn’t think a Trump win would crack open the Dem party,
    but a Hillary win will seal the Dem Party up for maybe decades. If she wins, they will continue to follow that ‘winning formula’ for decades.

    Personally, i aint ever voting for another neoliberal. Aint doin it.

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    v

    I am finding myself lining up behind that way of thinking, too. (I last voted for a democrat in ’92. Since then, California hasn’t been close enough to make me consider voting the “lesser of two evils”).

    Check this op-ed out (in response to Robert Reich’s advice to back Clinton if she wins the nomination). I find myself agreeing with this.

    http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/05/30/no-i-wont-work-hillary-clinton-response-robert-reich?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

    Sanders, btw, has been invited to run atop the Green Party ticket, and he has not ruled it out. Sanders/Stein 2016?

    I could live with that.

    #45236
    wv
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    Yeah, zooey, i think a lot of people have just had it
    with the lesser-evil thing. A lot of people have not had it
    with the lesser-evil thing, of course.

    Its only gonna take a few percentage points to kill the DNC-Dems
    chances though. So, it may very well be a Trump Presidency coming Amerika’s way.

    Anyway, looks like Cali-forn-I-A is getn interesting.

    Got a pree-diction on California?

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    v
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    …After Donald Trump won the Republican nomination for the presidential election, many thought that he would be taking on Hillary Clinton. Her numbers and approval rating appeared to be too great for anyone to overcome, but that may no longer be the case. According to the most recent 2016 presidential polls, Bernie Sanders is not only gaining a lot of ground on Clinton in California, but he’s actually leading Trump in Michigan.

    In California, Hillary Clinton is barely holding onto her lead and as of Wednesday night, it was down to just two points. According to the new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, Sanders is gaining quickly on Clinton with the state’s primary right around the corner on June 7.

    Likely Democratic primary voters in California have given 49 percent of their support to Clinton, while Sanders has taken 47 percent. The Clinton campaign may be getting even more nervous as a wider electorate of all potential Democratic voters in the state of California shows Sanders ahead by one point.

    #45239
    Zooey
    Moderator

    I don’t have much of a prediction on California, except I think Sanders wins here. I said that back in Feb, I think, on the basis that this is a reliably blue state. And in the past couple of months, California has increased registration by 10% – 1.5 million new voters. That ain’t for Hillary.

    I find the appointment of Cornel West interesting, and haven’t read any reaction to it. I guess he isn’t well known enough, yet. He once called Obama a Rockefeller Republican in blackface.

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