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]Five things we learned at combine: Rams

By Nick Wagoner

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INDIANAPOLIS — Observed and heard at the NFL combine on Thursday:

1. Weinke headed to St. Louis: The St. Louis Rams are hiring former NFL quarterback Chris Weinke as their quarterbacks coach. Weinke will replace Frank Cignetti, who was promoted from quarterbacks coach to offensive coordinator last week.

Weinke is an intriguing addition for the Rams. While he hasn’t been an NFL quarterbacks coach before, he brings extensive experience working with NFL quarterbacks from his time at IMG Academy. He’s worked with top signal-callers such as Russell Wilson and Cam Newton and has earned respect from many corners of the football world for his record.

This is a good, calculated hire by Rams coach Jeff Fisher. Weinke is an outside the box, creative hire who should inject some new life into the quarterbacks room and the offense. It’s needed on both counts as the Rams attempt to get the offense rolling in 2015.

2. Hundley has plenty to prove: UCLA quarterback Brett Hundley has been widely regarded as the third-best quarterback prospect in this year’s class behind Oregon’s Marcus Mariota and Florida State’s Jameis Winston. But that’s a description he doesn’t take too kindly to.

Hundley told assembled media Thursday his goal is to be the No. 1 overall pick and believes the quarterback class as a whole is underrated. Winston and Mariota are probably out of the Rams’ range (barring a trade up), leaving them to sort through the other prospects. Scouts have told me that Hundley is going to be a major work in progress but Weinke might be the type of coach who can get the most out of him.

After his time on the dais, Hundley told me that he has a formal 15-minute interview set up with the Rams this week. That doesn’t guarantee anything in terms of his draft status but it does show there’s at least some level of interest on the Rams’ end.

3. Snead praises Kroenke: Not that you’d expect anything different but when Rams general manager Les Snead was asked about owner Stan Kroenke not engaging his fans, Snead offered praise for his boss.

“I give him unbelievable thumbs up,” Snead said. “[He’s] competitive. …The guy wants to win. Even in St. Louis, you’re a lower revenue team. Never once has there been a problem with not being able to stay in and compete. And hey, the guy knows sports. He’s got a lot of sports teams. There’s a rational patience to him, where you can tell him your process, and he’ll let you evolve and see if it works.”

4. Chargers aren’t worried about relocation: There has been plenty of discussion about relocation to Los Angeles and the San Diego Chargers this week. Obviously, it’s a situation that everyone in St. Louis is also monitoring closely because of similar conversations involving the Rams.

Despite the growing tension between the Chargers and San Diego, general manager Tom Telesco said the football side isn’t allowing it to seep into their work.

“I don’t think so,” Telesco said. “I know what our job is. Our job is to put the best football team on the field that we can and stay focused with that. I let the politicians and lawyers work on everything else. We’ll work on the football. I don’t see it as a distraction at all as of right now. So we’re just focused on doing our job.”

5. Neither are the Raiders: Oakland Raiders coach Jack Del Rio is new to his team but before accepting the job, he asked Raiders owner Mark Davis about Oakland’s version of relocation rumors.

“I asked point blank what Mark Davis, what his thoughts were on the potential of relocation and he indicated to me that it was his desire to keep the team in Oakland and that they’re working hard to do that,” Del Rio said. “That’s his commitment to look at it that way. I’m from the area. I can coach anywhere but I’m from there and it would be great to keep it right there. Hopefully we can get that done.”

In the meantime, like the Chargers, Del Rio will keep his focus on the football.

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Just throwing out some names on guys I like and some that caught my attention.

Ali Marpet – Really impressive small school guy. Did everything good.

Brandon Scherff (obviously) – tweaked his hammy in one drill which was sad to see but did what he had to do.

La’el Collins – Looked real smooth.

Cam Erving – One of my favorite players. Word is that he can do a 360 dunk.

Jake Fisher – Looks like a legit LT.

Other guys worth mentioning:

Donovan Smith
Rob Havenstein
DJ Humphries
Laken Tomlinson
Tre Jackson

Tackle position really thin this year but a lot of good talent on the interior. Did anybody see Grasu do any drills today? Was looking forward to seeing what he could do.

NFL Combine 2015: Matt Bowen’s Day 3 Notebook

By Matt Bowen , NFL National Lead Writer
Feb 20, 2015

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INDIANAPOLIS — Throughout the NFL Scouting Combine, former NFL defensive back Matt Bowen will bring you his daily notebook from Indianapolis. Here are his notes from Day 3.

Alabama Safety a Top-10 Pick?

Alabama safety Landon Collins is the top-rated safety on the majority of team boards, but does he have the type of talent that warrants a top-10 grade?

Scouts say Collins has “some thump to him” when he plays downhill and also displays the flexibility/range to get off the numbers in the deep half. He is a solid blitzer off the edge, and he has the ball skills to finish at the point of attack. He shows up consistently in critical situations to make a play for his team.

Some scouts want to see more from Collins in man-coverage situations, but that’s a developmental skill, from my perspective, that improves with pro coaching and technique.

On tape, his footwork is controlled when he drops down into the front (with little wasted movement), and he has the versatility to play a variety of roles for NFL defenses that utilize their safeties underneath in nickel and dime packages. That’s where Collins can produce as an underneath defender who “matches” (or carries) the seam with help rolling over the top.

Think of a system that is similar to Gregg Williams’ defense in St. Louis—a scheme that maximizes the talent of defensive backs by putting the safeties in multiple alignments to produce and create chaos.

I do see Collins as a first-round pick, and his stock should increase given the lack of overall talent in the draft class, but is he a top-10 guy? I don’t know about that. If you are going to grab a safety near the top of the draft, he needs to be a unique talent like my former Redskins teammate Sean Taylor—the type of player who changes the game.

Winston Will Throw on Saturday

Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston spoke Friday and said he was in Indianapolis to “gain the trust of all 32 teams” along with stressing the need (multiple times) to become the “face of a franchise” in the NFL.

However, more importantly, he announced that he would throw on Saturday morning during the quarterback workout. That wasn’t expected earlier in the week, but now it sounds like we will see both Winston and Oregon’s Marcus Mariota on the field working with receivers.

The quarterbacks will throw the entire route tree Saturday morning. As I said before, Winston and Mariota are working with new receivers. That could affect timing, ball placement, etc. But you can still focus on mechanics, footwork, release point and velocity. Those elements are more important than the end result of a curl, slant or skinny post during a workout. I’m excited to watch these two compete.

LSU Offensive Tackle Displays his Athletic Ability

LSU’s La’el Collins displayed fluid movement skills throughout drills on Friday, and that backs up what I saw from him at the Senior Bowl. Given his size and frame (6’4″, 305 lbs), Collins stood out during the workout because of his lateral movement and quickness out of his stance. And he also has the power at the point of attack to move defenders off the ball.

Collins produced a 1.86 10-yard split in the 40 and displayed the type of athletic ability in positional drills that does transition to his game tape. He solidified his stock as a first-round prospect with his workout Friday and could be a top-20 pick this April in the draft.

The Tight Ends Get on the Field

The 2015 tight end class isn’t deep and lacks the overall top-end talent we have seen in previous years. Maxx Williams (Minnesota) and Clive Walford (Miami) are considered the top two prospects at the position, but neither posted a 40 time on Friday that jumps out. Williams (6’4″, 249 lbs) ran a 4.78, and Walford (6’4″, 251 lbs) checked in at a 4.79.

Williams is a classic “in-line” tight end who can block in the run game, and he did catch the ball cleanly during workouts while showing solid route-running technique. Walford has the ability to win on the route stem and can create some matchups versus a linebacker or safety (as he displayed at the Senior Bowl).

However, if you are looking for a top-tier tight end who can consistently stretch the field and take over inside of the 20-yard line, this class doesn’t have a true “matchup weapon” at the position.

Gregory’s Weigh-In Creates a Buzz in Indy

When outside linebacker Randy Gregory weighed in on Friday morning at a lean 235 pounds, the Nebraska product became the topic of discussion on the media room floor. Why was his weight down? Can he add more size? How would the weigh-in impact his stock and his future as an edge defender in the NFL?

From what I hear, NFL teams aren’t concerned at this point. The former Cornhusker can still add around 10 pounds to push the scale up to 245, plus he isn’t a fit as a defensive end in a 4-3 front. Gregory is being projected as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme and should showcase his athletic ability during testing on Sunday morning inside of Lucas Oil Stadium.

Where is the Hype for Duke Johnson?

The 2015 running back class has generated a lot of buzz in Indianapolis. This group is deep, and both Wisconsin’s Melvin Gordon and Georgia’s Todd Gurley could potentially come off the board at the back end of the first round.

However, for all the talk surrounding the talent level of this class, where is the talk, or the hype, for Miami running back Duke Johnson? He measured in at 5’9″, 207 pounds and played in a pro-style offense under Al Golden, plus his skill set should quickly transition to the NFL game.

A prospect with a compact build, he has the acceleration to produce in a pro system, can catch the ball out of the backfield and will block in the passing game. And pass protection is the key to getting on the field early for any rookie running back.

Johnson is expected to showcase his speed when he runs with the rest of the backs on Saturday, but the game film should be the true factor with his final grade. He is a solid, second-round prospect who is flying under the radar here.

Gurley Declines Medical Exams for His Injured Knee

According to NFL.com’s Michael Silver, via NFL.com’s Chase Goodbread, Georgia running back Todd Gurley declined to have his knee examined during medical checks after suffering an ACL injury during the season.

The medical exam is one of the most important aspects of the combine for prospects as they run through a gauntlet of joint testing, etc., with NFL teams in Indianapolis. Doctors and trainers for every club will pull, push and rake on knees and shoulders during these exams to check for possible injuries or instability. I went through it as a player back at the 2000 combine, and it is an exhausting experience that exposes even “minor” deficiencies in your body.

Some teams will question Gurley’s decision to pass on this exam (which is rare), but I can also see why the Georgia running back would decline to have a team doctor aggressively test his surgically repaired knee at this point in the rehab process.

Now, Gurley will eventually have to get his knee checked out before the draft so teams can sign off on his health/rehab. That’s a must. But I don’t believe Friday’s decision ultimately has any impact on his draft stock. With Gurley not working out this week—or at his pro day next month—as he continues the rehab process, the game tape is the key grading tool. And that passes the test.

Also on Day 3

• Clemson defensive end/outside linebacker Vic Beasley weighed in at 246 pounds. That’s a jump from the 230-235 pounds he played at in college. With the weight gain, I’m interested in seeing how Beasley moves when the defensive players start working out on Sunday. Can he change direction with speed and showcase a sudden burst in positional drills?

• Offensive guard Ali Marpet (Hobart College) generated some buzz at the Senior Bowl with an impressive week of practice, and he continued to boost his stock on Friday during testing. Marpet (6’4″, 307 lbs) posted the fastest 10-yard split of the offensive lineman at 1.74.

• Before having to shut down offensive line drills with a hamstring injury, Iowa’s Brandon Scherff turned in a 1.78 10-yard split in the 40 (5.07 time). That’s a solid number for the projected first-round pick at 319 pounds. Scouts will have to get the change of direction times (short shuttle, three-cone) on Scherff at his pro day.

• Florida defensive end/outside linebacker Dante Fowler Jr. talked about his versatility on Friday, and that’s the major reason his stock is climbing. At 6’3″, 261 pounds, he can fit in a 4-3 or 3-4 front on the edge. With a good workout on Sunday, Fowler should come off the board as a top-10 pick in the draft.

• Washington’s Shaq Thompson will work out at both linebacker and running back over the weekend at the combine. There has been talk of Thompson making the move to safety at the NFL level, but there is no question about his versatility and athleticism in Indianapolis.

• Southern Illinois’ MyCole Pruitt ran the fastest 40 of the tight end class at 4.58 seconds. That’s moving for a prospect who measured in at 6’2″, 251 pounds. And he also posted 38 inches on the vertical jump.

• Miami’s Ereck Flowers has the measurables you want at the tackle position (6’6″, 329 lbs, 34 1/2-inch arms), plus he put up 37 reps on the bench and posted a 1.78 10-yard split in the 40 on Friday morning during workouts. However, is Flowers another college tackle who will slide inside to the guard position at the pro level? Based on what I heard in Indianapolis, he could come off the board in the first round, but there are still questions about his ability to handle speed off the edge.

• Melvin Gordon produced a ton of explosive plays during his time at Wisconsin, but that doesn’t mean we will see the running back post a 4.4 time on Saturday morning. Gordon has the burst/acceleration to get up the field, but he is expected to run in the 4.5-4.6 range.

• The wide receivers will be on the field Saturday morning for workouts, and that will give us a chance to check out the vertical speed of Kevin White, Dorial Green-Beckham, Amari Cooper, DeVante Parker, Sammie Coates, etc. White is expected to run in the 4.5 range, and Green-Beckham (at 237 lbs) could post a time in the 4.4s.

Seven-year NFL veteran Matt Bowen is an NFL National Lead Writer for Bleacher Report.

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NFL Combine 2015: Matt Bowen’s Day 4 Notebook
By Matt Bowen , NFL National Lead Writer
Feb 21, 2015

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2372866-nfl-combine-2015-matt-bowens-day-4-notebook

INDIANAPOLIS — Throughout the NFL Scouting Combine, former NFL defensive back Matt Bowen will bring you his daily notebook.

Winston Is the Clear No. 1 QB

After Jameis Winston threw on Saturday, it’s clear that he is the top quarterback prospect in this draft.

A true pro-style quarterback at 6’4″, 231 pounds, the Florida State product looked comfortable and confident working three- and five-step drops on Saturday. His footwork was consistent, and he showed little wasted movement in his transition off the back foot. Winston throws a catchable ball, and his accuracy was on display even though he was working with new receivers. Smooth.

Is there a knock on Winston? I would say his athletic measurables are below-average when looking at the 40-yard dash (4.97 seconds) and the vertical jump (28 inches) numbers he posted on Saturday, but the focus here is on his ability as a dropback passer at the pro level. That’s the key for a quarterback coming from a pro system in Tallahassee.

I can’t see how Lovie Smith passes on Winston given the quarterback situation in Tampa. Winston should be the No. 1 pick on April 30.

Mariota Workout Answers Some Questions

Marcus Mariota has the athletic measurables, as should have been expected from watching the Oregon product on tape. He ran the 40 in 4.52 seconds, jumped 36 inches and posted a 10’6″ broad jump. Those are impressive numbers for a 6’4″, 222-pound quarterback.

However, the talk here before the workout focused on Mariota’s ability to execute the three- and five-step drops in positional drills after spending the majority of his career at Oregon working out of the shotgun alignment.

In my opinion, Mariota has put in the time on his footwork. He looked clean simulating the drops from under center and showed the quickness to gather his base while controlling the release. He had a strong day throwing the ball and should carry a top-10 grade into the draft.

Cooper, White and Parker Solidify Top-10 Grades

This wide receiver class is loaded, and the top prospects produced legit numbers during testing on Saturday morning with Amari Cooper (4.42), Kevin White (4.35) and DeVante Parker (4.45) all answering questions on their vertical speed in the 40-yard dash.

I see Cooper as the most polished route-runner in this class, and that was on display during positional drills. He glides through his cuts and is smooth at the top of the route.

White’s size (6’3″, 215 pounds) is going to create matchups in the NFL, and he has the ball skills and body control to adjust at the point of attack (go check out the tape versus Alabama). With Parker (6’3″, 209 pounds), think about the athleticism and the ability to stretch the field. That’s where he shows up on tape—making plays on contested throws.

White is expected to come off the board first in the draft (possibly No. 4 to Oakland); however, all three of these wideouts should grade out as top-10 picks after the workouts on Saturday in Indianapolis. There is a ton of talent (and pro speed) with this group.

Slow Day for the Running Backs

I don’t overreact to 40 times at the running back position. Anything in the 4.5 to 4.6 range works when you see the burst and acceleration on tape. Melvin Gordon (4.52), Duke Johnson (4.54), Ameer Abdullah (4.60) and David Johnson (4.50) all posted respectable times in the 40. However, the 10-yard split times were much slower than I expected.

With running backs, you want to see a 10-yard split at 1.56 seconds. On Saturday, only one back (Michigan State’s Jeremy Langford) hit that mark, with Gordon (1.63), Duke Johnson (1.61), Abdullah (1.61) and David Johnson (1.58) missing it.

That doesn’t mean this class isn’t deep at the position, and the tape is still the deciding factor. Plus, Todd Gurley and Tevin Coleman didn’t run. However, for as much buzz as there has been this week on the running backs, the speed was lacking.

Dorial Green-Beckham’s Stock Continues to Rise

Green-Beckham’s draft stock has been a topic of discussion because of his unique measurables (6’5″, 237 pounds), raw talent and the off-field concerns that have scouts doing extra work on the wide receiver.

I’ve heard mixed reviews from veteran scouts this week on Green-Beckham and how he projects to the NFL, but we can’t deny that he took advantage of the combine stage to improve his overall grade. The former Missouri wide receiver clocked in at an impressive 4.49, plus he put together a solid workout in positional drills. Good day for Green-Beckham.

More from Day 4

• The disappointing 4.7-second 40 time for Devin Funchess will force scouts to go back and study more tape on the Michigan product. Dash times don’t tell the entire story on wide receivers, but a slow time does have an impact on prospects. Does Funchess play faster on tape? That’s what scouts have to see.

• Alabama strong safety Landon Collins weighed in on Saturday morning at 228 pounds, and Samford strong safety Jaquiski Tartt came in at 6’1″, 221 pounds. They are two physical safeties who will come downhill and deliver a shot to the ball-carrier.

• Phillip Dorsett turned in a 4.33 40 time, and that speed translates to the field with the wide receiver. He displays a burst coming out of his breaks and can get up the field. He was a star at the Senior Bowl. The Miami product should come off the board in the second round.

• South Alabama quarterback Brandon Bridge (6’4″, 229 pounds) is a prospect I need to do some work on. During workouts, he showcased his arm strength, velocity and a quick release, but he needs to clean up his mechanics.

• Randy Gregory, the defensive end out of Nebraska, did 24 reps on the 225-pound bench press. That’s a good number given his length (34″ arms).

• UAB wide receiver J.J. Nelson (5’10”, 156 pounds) posted an official 4.28 40 time on Saturday. That’s moving.

• Don’t forget about Florida State’s Rashad Greene. The wide receiver posted times in the 4.4-4.45 range and is a polished route-runner. He had a ton of production for the Seminoles and should develop into a solid pro receiver.

• Baylor QB Bryce Petty still has to develop his footwork when working from under center, but I saw an improvement since the Senior Bowl. He has the arm strength to make NFL throws. The technique and mechanics are the next step in his progression.

• One receiver to check out on tape is wide receiver Tyler Lockett (5’10”, 182 pounds). The Kansas State product had a great week of practice at the Senior Bowl working out of the slot and ran an official 4.40 40 on Saturday. He’s a good player.

• Missouri outside linebacker Shane Ray won’t work out on Sunday due to a foot injury he suffered in the Citrus Bowl. He does plan to take part in a pro day back on campus.

• The 4.43 40 time for Sammie Coates didn’t change my opinion on the Auburn wide receiver after watching him at the Senior Bowl. He can get down the field on the 9 route and has the size (6’1″, 212 pounds) at the point of attack. However, his route running will have to develop at the pro level, plus there are still questions about his hands and ability to make plays on contested throws.

• Washington’s Danny Shelton is considered the ideal fit as a 3-4 nose given his size, and he should come off the board early in the first round. He weighed in at 339 pounds here in Indianapolis. That’s a slight drop from his Senior Bowl weight of 343.

• UCLA quarterback Brett Hundley showcased his athleticism during testing on Saturday with a 4.63 40, 36-inch vertical, 3.98 short shuttle and a 6.93 three-cone drill.

• Duke wide receiver Jamison Crowder (5’8″, 185 pounds) was a favorite of mine at the Senior Bowl because of his quick change-of-direction speed. However, I did expect a better 40 time than the 4.56 number he posted Saturday. That was surprising.

• Georgia’s Chris Conley (6’2″, 213 pounds) took advantage of the combine stage to produce some impressive numbers. The wide receiver ran a 4.35 40, posted a 45-inch vertical jump and recorded an 11’7″ broad jump. Ridiculous.

• Eastern Carolina’s Shane Carden struggled at the Senior Bowl with his ball placement, and I didn’t see anything during workouts to change the narrative on the quarterback.

• Stanford wide receiver Ty Montgomery needed a solid workout after a subpar week at the Senior Bowl, but he didn’t stand out Saturday. He posted an average 40 time (4.55) and failed to flash during drills.

• Edge-rushers take the field on Sunday morning, and I’m excited to see Florida’s Dante Fowler Jr. go through drills. Given his athleticism and versatility, the outside linebacker/defensive end can boost his stock with a good workout.

• Saturday was a perfect example of why the top quarterbacks should throw at the combine. This is part of the interview process. Go out and compete. Both Winston and Mariota turned in good workouts despite the narrative that it’s tougher to throw to receivers whom they haven’t worked with in the past.

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Combine O linemen

The main thing I wanted to cover was the Interior Linemen, as it is the deepest draft I have ever seen for starter and quality backup players inside. So much so that I believe they could have invited another 30 players. My guess is that the guys with the best agents fought it out for the final ten spots. I think there will be at LEAST one guy to make our team from UDFA it is such a strong class.

Im going to do a top 10 thing . . .

1) The best OT is an OG. Scherff was the smoothest athlete, and he’s an OG.

2) Jake Fisher from ORE and Morse from Mizzou are the best OTs beyond that. It was hilarious trying to listen to Mayock creating a class of players from this really dreadful field. Clemmings is no where near ready, Peat is soft.

3) The OG from Louisville followed up a strong EW performance with a ridiculous set of field drills. He may have moved in to the mid or top of round 2.

4) I still like Gallik the best at OC because of his heavy hands, low hips, and intelligence. He’s also really fiesty and moves at a really high speed. But I think Ali Marpet has the perfect body and movement skills for a Center, and in the 5th I’d grab either one. Dismukes was okay, and smooth and smart, but I like those other two guys better.

5) Grasu has been a no show, and I’m bummed. I can barely remember his tape. I remember I liked it. He’ll either be there in the 5th or push one of those two guys down.

6) Best ever shadow drill for the OGs. They are usually sloppy and blubbery. Not this year. This year it was the OTs.

7) Tre Jackson, Matias, Erving, Cann, Tomlinson, Kuandjio, Miller, Marpet, Shaq Mason, and Harrison. Thats 10 IMO plug n play OGs (besides Scherff and Collins, and disregarding Grasu). Feliciano and the Poole kid from SDst. are just on the outside of that list. I like the aggression of Miami OGs.

8) Not invited top 7
G Tech Shaq Mason 6-1 312 Sr.
PITT 74 ORT (OG n-l?) Rotheram 6-6 335
WISC 73 OLG Lewallen 6-6 322
USC 70 ORG/OT Walker 6-6 300
Ms St. 63 OC Day 6-3 310
WVA 67 OLT Spain 6-5 335
AUB 62 OLG Slade 6-5 325
NEB 68 OLG Cotton 6-6 310 =
Guess we’re waiting on Pro day results?

9) I don’t know that I have a first round OT.

10) I definitely don’t have a #10 for this list, but have to finish it anyway.