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July 6, 2014 at 9:04 am #918znModerator
from Aaron Rodgers tops preseason list of NFL’s best QBs
By Chris Wesseling
July 1Question marks: Jake Locker, Sam Bradford, EJ Manuel, Geno Smith
The Rams played their best ball of the season after Bradford went down with an ACL injury. Sporting an 18-30-1 record through four seasons, Bradford is under the gun after watching his franchise pass on opportunities to galvanize the fan base by drafting RGIII or Johnny Manziel.
Read the whole article: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000362711/article/aaron-rodgers-tops-preseason-list-of-nfls-best-qbs
July 8, 2014 at 4:52 pm #1205znModeratorRamBill
Sports Illustrated’s Doug Farrar and Chris Burke answer your NFC West questions from Twitter including if Sam Bradford will be resigned and who has the best wide receiving corps in the division. They also answer the question on how many other divisions would the 4th place finisher in the NFC West win. (4:05)
July 10, 2014 at 1:30 am #1358znModeratorEvery NFL Team’s Riskiest Move So Far This Offseason
St. Louis Rams: Sticking with QB Sam Bradford
In his four seasons as the starter in St. Louis, Rams quarterback Sam Bradford has failed to impress.
He holds a career record of 18-30-1 and has missed 15 games due to injury, including nine last season after tearing his ACL.
So it registered as at least a mild surprise that general manager Les Snead and coach Jeff Fisher not only brought Bradford back for a fifth season, but declined to bring in any legitimate competition for his job.
The Rams play in the rough-and-tumble NFC West, and if they are to ascend to the level of Seattle and San Francisco, Bradford must elevate his own level of play, and that appears to be a long shot given his past history.
St. Louis could have hit the reset button in the draft and selected a quarterback (Texas A&M’s Johnny Manziel?), but they opted to stick with Bradford. It’s a decision that could end up biting them in both 2014 and beyond.
July 10, 2014 at 6:39 pm #1410znModeratorRamBill
Which QB’s Are Entering Pivotal Seasons? Brian Baldinger and Shaun O’Hara talk QB’s, including Rams QB Sam Bradford.
Watch QB’s Discussion
http://www.rams-news.com/which-qbs-are-entering-pivotal-seasons-video/
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Curtis Conway answers a question about each NFC West team in his version of NFC West Summer School. The Rams question: Is Sam Bradford the long term solution for the Rams? (5:29)
http://www.rams-news.com/is-sam-bradford-the-long-term-solution-for-the-rams-video/
July 11, 2014 at 5:39 pm #1514znModeratorFROM Analysis: Best quarterbacks are more than passers
By Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange
read the whole article: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/analysis-best-quarterbacks-more-passers-150802859–nfl.html
ST. LOUIS RAMS
–QUARTERBACKS: Starter — Sam Bradford. Backups – Shaun Hill, Garrett Gilbert, Austin Davis.
Returning from a torn ACL injury that short-circuited his 2013 season, Bradford knows the pressure there is simply to stay on the field. Including his final season at Oklahoma, Bradford has had injuries that affected his play in three of the last five seasons. With the Rams, in addition to 2013, there was a 2011 season affected by a high ankle sprain. He was playing well when the knee injury occurred last season, and he expects to pick up where he left off. Hill replaces Kellen Clemens as the backup, and if he has to play, the passing offense will not be as diminished as it was when Clemens had to play. The Rams like the potential of the rookie Gilbert, and he is expected to win the No. 3 job over Davis, who was cut at the end of the preseason last year only to be brought back after Bradford was injured.
July 13, 2014 at 9:18 pm #1672znModeratorOffseason Position Preview: Quarterbacks
Tim Godfrey
http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/offseason_position_preview_quarterbacks/16834072
Despite his numbers throughout the first five weeks of the 2013 season, Sam Bradford wasn’t having the best season. The team was 1-3 with him starting under center and 2-0 the next two weeks, thanks to special teams and the defense taking advantage of a weak Jacksonville offense.
Bradford was completing around 60 percent of his passes and the only quarterback to throw fewer interceptions than Bradford was Peyton Manning. But those were bloated numbers that came during the last quarter or few minutes of the game. Since being drafted by St. Louis in 2010, the verdict is still out on Bradford, which is a pretty generous ruling.
The team’s goals however, are not dependent upon Bradford’s health and success. As shown last year, the Rams still have a chance without #8 under center.
Sam Bradford: The former Heisman Trophy winner will be heading into his fifth year with a freshly repaired ACL, which he tore in a Week Six matchup at Carolina. Offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer will no doubt take the comeback slow, relying more on the ground attack and trick plays via Tavon Austin.
Once Bradford becomes more comfortable with his new teammates in real game situations, expect him to throw the ball. Schottenheimer and head coach Jeff Fisher will want to utilize their weapons way more than they did last year. This means Kenny Britt, Brian Quick, Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey (after he returns from his PED suspension) will be seeing a lot of action, as well as the usual suspects, i.e., Chris Givens, Lance Kendricks and Jared Cook.
Bradford’s strength is his short game, which is what he heavily relies on. His comfort zone is anywhere within 20 yards of the line of scrimmage, which leads us to examine Bradford’s weaknesses…
Bradford cannot throw the deep ball accurately. There was a time where he and Givens made quite a few deep plays in 2012, but every year before and since that season, Bradford has been pedestrian at best. Bradford has the arm and he has precision, but confidence in his deep throws is what he lacks.
July 13, 2014 at 9:19 pm #1673znModeratorBradford cannot throw the deep ball accurately.
Who are these kids these kinds of places get to write their fanblogs for them?
Bradford has good deep ball accuracy.
I quick checked some numbers.
Bradford’s completion percentage on passes of 31 yards or more is behind Manning, Brees and Rodgers. They are actually tops in the game IMO. But Bradford is just behind Romo and ahead of Brady, Roethlisberger, Stafford, Flacco, Newton Kaepernick, Wilson, and Luck.
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Maybe the guy doesn’t understand deep ball accuracy. Brees is very good with 39%.And maybe he doesn’t get how rarely those kinds of passes are thrown. In the little bit I looked at the most was Flacco with 69 attempts in 2 seasons combined. Brees was close behind him with 67. Rodgers only has 24 attempts in his last 25 games (that’s all he played in 2012 + 2013). Bradford had 37 in 23 games, which in 32 games would be 51…which in terms of just attempts would put him ahead of Brady, Stafford, Roethlisberger, Romo, CK, Wilson, Rodgers, and Manning. He would be 1 attempt behind Luck.
July 13, 2014 at 9:55 pm #1679Eternal RamnationParticipantJuly 13, 2014 at 10:24 pm #1680znModeratorI think that was either just one season? or 2 seasons? or not really all of them.
July 13, 2014 at 10:34 pm #1681znModeratorI think that was either just one season? or 2 seasons? or not really all of them.
Yeah that was 2011. On Kendricks and Pettis … in their defense, I bet they make a couple of those in later years. But 2011 is hard to watch.
July 13, 2014 at 11:56 pm #1682InvaderRamModeratoryeah. i don’t think throwing the ball has ever been a problem for bradford.
July 14, 2014 at 12:10 am #1686InvaderRamModeratorBradford was completing around 60 percent of his passes and the only quarterback to throw fewer interceptions than Bradford was Peyton Manning. But those were bloated numbers that came during the last quarter or few minutes of the game. Since being drafted by St. Louis in 2010, the verdict is still out on Bradford, which is a pretty generous ruling.
is this actually true?
looking at his splits from espn.com
his qb rating when they won by 0-7 points was 93.1.
his qb rating when they won by 8-14 points was 105.3.
his qb rating when they won by more than 15 points actually went down to 85.9.his qb rating in the 4th quarter +/- 7 points was 136.0.
unless i’m reading this wrong he performed well during close games when they needed him to…
July 14, 2014 at 1:30 am #1691Eternal RamnationParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>zn wrote:</div>
I think that was either just one season? or 2 seasons? or not really all of them.Yeah that was 2011. On Kendricks and Pettis … in their defense, I bet they make a couple of those in later years. But 2011 is hard to watch.
Yeah it was 2011. I posted as an argument against the writer claiming Bradford can’t throw deep some of those throws are incredible.Also for me it makes a pretty good case for Gibson being better than most thought he was.
July 14, 2014 at 7:59 am #1704znModeratorBradford was completing around 60 percent of his passes and the only quarterback to throw fewer interceptions than Bradford was Peyton Manning. But those were bloated numbers that came during the last quarter or few minutes of the game. Since being drafted by St. Louis in 2010, the verdict is still out on Bradford, which is a pretty generous ruling.
is this actually true?
looking at his splits from espn.com
his qb rating when they won by 0-7 points was 93.1.
his qb rating when they won by 8-14 points was 105.3.
his qb rating when they won by more than 15 points actually went down to 85.9.his qb rating in the 4th quarter +/- 7 points was 136.0.
unless i’m reading this wrong he performed well during close games when they needed him to…
Yes. In 2012 he has 4 comebacks and/or game winning drives at the end. In 2013 he has one.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=BradSa00
And people have been over and over this “garbage time” thing…it’s nonsense. The Atlanta game was contested after the Falcons jumped out in the 1st half.
Anyway. I don’t know how many of our gang here are heavily anti-Bradford. I know there are skeptics, neutrals, and “want to see it in 2014” posters. So to me, and probably you and ER too, the thing is not that the “writer” is skeptical about SB…that’s fine, I get that, and it’s a topic worth debating. It’s that he makes a poor case, and makes fact claims that don’t stand up. Let’s just say he has a problem with accuracy.
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July 15, 2014 at 4:18 pm #1781znModeratorBradford 24th in Jaworski’s QB rankings
By Nate Latsch
http://stl.scout.com/2/1421268.html
ST. LOUIS — ESPN’s Ron Jaworski rated the Rams’ Sam Bradford as the 24th-best starting quarterback going into the 2014 season.
“Bradford remains a talented passer with excellent arm strength,” Jaworski said during ESPN’s SportsCenter segment. “He can make every throw with velocity, tough and accuracy.”“Bradford is primarily a pocket quarterback,” Jaworski continued. “When he’s well-protected and comfortable in the pocket, he can be a high-level passer. He has shown flashes of that in his four-year career.”
The No. 1 pick in the 2010 NFL Draft out of the University of Oklahoma, Bradford put up good numbers in his seven starts in 2013 before suffering a season-ending knee injury. He completed 60.7 percent of his passes, with 14 touchdowns and four interceptions, and a passer rating of 90.9.
“Bradford’s struggles have often resulted from his unrefined feel for pocket movement,” Jaworski said. “There are times he seems anchored in the pocket, unable to move and reset.
“Third down has also been a problem for Bradford. In 2013, in his seven starts before an ACL tear ended his season, he completed less than 50 percent of his passes. He must improve on that critical down to become a more consistent quarterback.”
Bradford completed 68 percent of his passes on first down in 2013, then 62.4 percent on second down and 49.3 percent on third down. In his four-year career Bradford has completed 51.9 percent of his passes on third down.
No. 23 on Jaws’ list was Ryan Tannehill of the Miami Dolphins.
July 15, 2014 at 4:22 pm #1782znModeratorBradford completed 68 percent of his passes on first down in 2013, then 62.4 percent on second down and 49.3 percent on third down. In his four-year career Bradford has completed 51.9 percent of his passes on third down.
I really do not know how far this “dividing games” thing takes us.
But fwiw…in 2013, the Rams were different on 3rd down with Stacy. These are team numbers, gotten from looking at ESPN box scores, which include 3rd down performance.
4 games w/Richardson, 25.8% conversion rate on 3rd down
3 games w/Stacy, 38.4% rate38.4% for the season would rank 14th in the league. And 2 of those 3 games were against top 7 defenses.
25.8% would rank below 32. It would rank 33rd. (The actual lowest was the Jags with 31%).
Yeah just 3 games–but I will still hazard a guess: I don’t think it was an anomaly. 25.8% to 38.4%? From worse than the Jagz to better than the Eagles? That’s a pretty bloody big improvement. Yes and it would be good if it’s real and it holds up.
Though again those are not straight-up Bradford numbers. Without going through play by plays a game at a time, there’s no way to access straight-up Bradford numbers on this if you want to do it by the game. So you can’t compare one set of games to another set of games for the qb only, not unless you want to go through play by plays (as I said).
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July 16, 2014 at 2:53 pm #1815HerzogParticipantIs Bradford good for full participation in training camp?
July 16, 2014 at 3:31 pm #1818znModeratorThat’s what we’ve heard so far
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