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January 11, 2017 at 11:02 pm #63180InvaderRamModeratorJanuary 11, 2017 at 11:14 pm #63182AgamemnonParticipantJanuary 12, 2017 at 5:10 am #63191PA RamParticipant
So if you want to check out the fancy new stadium but the Rams stink, now you can go see a Chargers game instead.
I don’t see how two teams in a market is good for either team.
Yes–the Jets and Giants have made it. But that’s a more football friendly area.
If these two teams are struggling for fans 10 years from now I would not be shocked to see moving vans back up again. On the other hand–if the teams make money in spite of that, it won’t matter, I guess.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
January 12, 2017 at 8:29 am #63198nittany ramModeratorLink: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-chargers-to-la-plaschke-20170111-story.html
Chargers shouldnât look for a welcome wagon in L.A.
Bill Plaschke
Every relationship is built on honesty, so the San Diego Chargers should hear this as their moving vans are chugging up the 5 Freeway on their noble mission of greed.We. Donât. Want. You.
The news broke Thursday that Chargers owner Dean Spanos has informed NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell he is moving the team to Los Angeles, which is pretty much dreadful news for Los Angeles.
Wow, just what we need, the return of a professional sports team with no buzz, no tradition, few local fans north of south Orange County, limited success, and an owner who just stole them away from a place where they were loved unconditionally for 56 years.
What was the NFL thinking? What are the Chargers thinking? I know what Spanos is thinking, that he is leaving behind those unwashed heathens who didnât want their tax dollars to pay for a football stadium and sliding into Stan Kroenkeâs Inglewood palace to ride piggyback on the Rams.
What a guy. What a joke.
The problem is not that Los Angeles must now be asked to support two NFL teams after 22 years of somehow surviving with none. We knew this would happen. This was the deal when the Rams returned last year. This is what the NFL has always wanted for Inglewood, so there was no avoiding it.
The problem is, the second team should have been the Raiders. The Southland is filled with Raiders fans everywhere. I have still never met a single Chargers fan.
The NFL will feel the full embarrassment of this move next fall when the Raiders play the Chargers here and the stadium will be painted in silver and black. At least that game will be sold out. Whether they initially play in the giant Coliseum or the tiny confines of StubHub Center, itâs hard to imagine the Chargers selling many tickets for any of their other games in the next two years before the Inglewood palace opens.
The Chargers arenât even the second team in town behind the Rams. The Chargers arenât even the third team of interest here behind the Rams and Raiders. The Chargers might not even be in the top-five favorite NFL teams in Los Angeles.
And now theyâre going to play their home games here? Itâs difficult to imagine many people really caring. Look at how many fans fled the Rams after they won only four games in their dismal return season here. Are those fans now going to get behind a team that has advanced to one Super Bowl since the Super Bowl began being played 51 years ago? The Chargers have won four playoff games in 22 years and, like, donât we already have one of those teams?
The Rams have been awful, and are currently terrible, but because they played here for 48 years, they still feel like âourâ Rams.
The Chargers will brag about how they were born here in 1960, but, seriously, they stuck around only one year before fleeing south.
The Chargers are San Diegoâs team. The Chargers are beloved there. The Chargers belong there. And in coming days, donât listen to all these NFL experts moan that because of stadium issues, the Chargers couldnât make it work there.
Sure they could. According to a recent Forbes ranking, the Spanos family is worth $2.1 billion. They could have made it work there if they werenât insistent on using public money that the people of San Diego smartly refused to give them.
Think about this. The NFL gave Spanos an unprecedented $300 million to make a $1.2-billion stadium work, and he still couldnât figure out a way to come up with the rest without picking the taxpayersâ pockets.
So he moves the Chargers to a foreign land where they will play among strangers so his team can play for one dollar a year â seriously â in a $2.6 -billion stadium that Kroenke is building with no public money.
It gets worse. Spanos will have to pay as much as a $650-million relocation fee to bring his team here. Think he could have used that money toward a new stadium in San Diego?
While the Rams returned home in triumph, Spanos will come to Los Angeles in shame. Remember how Art Modell gave 35 years of his life to owning the Cleveland Browns, then suddenly moved them to Baltimore? The once-beloved Modell spent the rest of his days as the scourge of Cleveland. The same will happen to Spanos in San Diego, his legacy sold up the freeway.
And who exactly will be coming up that freeway with him? Who cares? The Chargers have better players than the Rams, but they still generally stink. They donât have a coach, they fired the last guy, whoever he was. They have a 35-year-old quarterback named Philip Rivers whoâs a pretty good dude, but how much longer will he keep playing?
The team will be unfortunate, unwitting participants in this mess, and itâs hard to imagine them initially being received as much more than a novelty act.
The good news about the Chargersâ move is that nobody will have to spend much money on a welcome parade. It will be a short one. There will be one limo carrying Spanos and one Brinkâs truck carrying his loot, both moving hurriedly up that freeway ahead of the muffled San Diego cries, all of Los Angeles peering briefly out the windows before closing their blinds
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January 12, 2017 at 9:34 am #63202wvParticipantI hate this.
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vJanuary 12, 2017 at 10:01 am #63204ZooeyModeratorThis is really no bueno.
It’s also mysterious because I heard on the radio last night that the deadline to make a decision was extended by two days until the 17th. Why would they get a two-day extension, then make the decision the same day, four days before the original deadline?
And I don’t get it. With the NFL money, plus the relocation fee, he’s got a billion dollars towards a $1.2 billion stadium in SD. He’s moving over $200 million. To a far less friendly fan base.
January 12, 2017 at 11:59 am #63212nittany ramModeratorThis is really no bueno.
Itâs also mysterious because I heard on the radio last night that the deadline to make a decision was extended by two days until the 17th. Why would they get a two-day extension, then make the decision the same day, four days before the original deadline?
And I donât get it. With the NFL money, plus the relocation fee, heâs got a billion dollars towards a $1.2 billion stadium in SD. Heâs moving over $200 million. To a far less friendly fan base.
None of this makes any sense. Spanos, by all accounts WANTS to be in San Diego. Could the announcement of a move to LA be a last second bluff to shake some more money out of San Diego?
January 12, 2017 at 12:06 pm #63214PA RamParticipantThe new logo:
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January 12, 2017 at 12:16 pm #63217PA RamParticipantThe new website:
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January 12, 2017 at 12:17 pm #63218PA RamParticipant“Fight for LA”. It sounds like they are challenging the Rams for the town.
Gonna be interesting.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
January 12, 2017 at 12:50 pm #63223HerzogParticipantWhat is the fascination with L.A. Can they really support 2 teams? can they support 1? Original L.A. Rams fans are getting screwed the most by this. St. louis Rams fans got screwed last year, next year, it’s L.A. Rams fans.
The actual Rams team is continually getting screwed. They won’t ever get a chance to really enjoy this move and being the centerpiece of the greatest stadium ever built.
I hate this too.
January 12, 2017 at 2:01 pm #63227ZooeyModeratorThis is really no bueno.
Itâs also mysterious because I heard on the radio last night that the deadline to make a decision was extended by two days until the 17th. Why would they get a two-day extension, then make the decision the same day, four days before the original deadline?
And I donât get it. With the NFL money, plus the relocation fee, heâs got a billion dollars towards a $1.2 billion stadium in SD. Heâs moving over $200 million. To a far less friendly fan base.
None of this makes any sense. Spanos, by all accounts WANTS to be in San Diego. Could the announcement of a move to LA be a last second bluff to shake some more money out of San Diego?
The thought has crossed my mind, but it is probably wishful thinking.
I wonder if some meeting is happening in San Diego. Why else extend the deadline two days? I mean…what for? Why did they extend the deadline for a decision by two days? Then announce early?
January 12, 2017 at 2:18 pm #63228nittany ramModeratorESPNLosAngeles says pick a side, L or R.
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