Can B.Quick return to form (bleacher report)

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  • #18579
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    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dg20J?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=st-louis-rams
    by Lawrence Pereira

    Much of the talk around the St Louis Rams this week has surrounded newly-appointed offensive co-ordinator, Frank Cignetti and his starting quarterback, Sam Bradford. The question of whether Bradford can recover to full fitness and stay there is clearly key to Rams chances of success in 2015. However, it is worth remembering that the 2010 number one draft pick is not the only member of the offense to have promising, if not career-defining form cut short by injury in recent times.

    In 2014, wide receiver Brian Quick was on course to reach 1000 yards prior to the injury sustained against Kansas City in week 8. Last year, Quick’s season tallies were 19 first downs, 3 touchdowns, 25 receptions and 375 yards – all higher figures in just seven games than he accumulated through 16 games in 2013 and 15 games in his rookie season the year before. Despite a third-string quarterback in Austin Davis throwing passes his way, all the signs pointed to great things for the former Appalachian State man. All that ended three minutes into the second quarter against the Chiefs when Quick hit the turf making a 10-yard catch.
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    The torn rotator cuff complicated by other factors – “He did just about everything you possibly can to a shoulder,” as Jeff Fisher put it last November – is, like Bradford’s ACL tear, a huge event to come back from. However, while clearly no two players or injuries are the same, Rams fans can draw some comfort from the fact that other NFL stars have suffered serious shoulder injuries and come back to perform well. In March 2013 Michael Bennett of the Seattle Seahawks suffered a torn rotator cuff. Following an offseason recovery, the 2013 regular season saw Bennett accumulate 8.5 sacks and finish as the league’s 9th highest graded defensive end on Pro Football Focus at +22.5. In 2011 guard Matt Slauson, then of the New York Jets, played through every game with a catalogue of significant shoulder injuries and still managed a positive PFF grading of +4.6 on the season. Going back to 2010, the former New England Patriot Wes Welker also suffered the rotator cuff injury in his right shoulder. In the five seasons that have followed, Welker has receiving 5666 yards and 37 touchdowns in regular and postseason football.

    So while a return to form is by no means a certainty, there are precedents to provide hope that Brian Quick can be a force for the Rams offense as he was in the early stages of the 2014 season. Understandably, as the 2015 year approaches the spotlight will be well and truly on Sam Bradford. What should not be lost amid the focus on the quarterback himself is that, if Bradford is to shine, he will also need his supporting cast to perform. With (hopefully) Kenny Britt resigned, Tavon Austin put to far better use than he ever was under Brian Schottenheimer and Brian Quick back to full fitness, Bradford will have a trio receivers all of whom clearly have the potential to hit that now almost mythical 1000-yard mark. One thing that was clear from the moment Quick was drafted was that he had all the natural physical attributes to be a top tier receiver in the NFL. Time will tell if he can pick up where he left off last year.
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    #18580
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    I guess this was the Injury Hierarchy:

    1 Bradford
    2 Wells
    3 J.Long
    4 B.Quick
    5 C.Long

    Four of the five on offense
    obviously.

    Imagine, the Seahawks or Patriots or Ravens
    or Packers losing the equivalent starters
    at those positions. What would their
    records have been then?

    Think about it:
    Starting QB
    Starting Center
    Starting LT
    Starting top-WR
    Starting DE

    I dunno. Cant see many
    teams overcoming that, really.

    Granted, theres an argument
    Snisher should have passed on
    Jake, and should have drafted
    Bridgewater, and should
    have found some ‘quality’ depth
    at center, etc.
    w
    v

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    #18583
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    Imagine, the Seahawks or Patriots or Ravens
    or Packers losing the equivalent starters
    at those positions. What would their
    records have been then?
    w
    v

    IMO, those teams would have only needed to lose their QBs to be below .500. We can throw the Broncos in that group, too.

    #18585
    rfl
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    With (hopefully) Kenny Britt resigned, Tavon Austin put to far better use than he ever was under Brian Schottenheimer and Brian Quick back to full fitness, Bradford will have a trio receivers all of whom clearly have the potential to hit that now almost mythical 1000-yard mark.

    This is the sort of assumption that drives me crazy. Actually, TWO assumptions:

    Assumption 1) the reason why Tavonn has struggled is that Schottenheimer misused him.

    Assumption 2) Tavonn can and WILL explode with a new OC.

    I don’t buy either premise.

    Assumptions. Damn.

    By virtue of the absurd ...

    #18587
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    wv wrote:
    With (hopefully) Kenny Britt resigned, Tavon Austin put to far better use than he ever was under Brian Schottenheimer and Brian Quick back to full fitness, Bradford will have a trio receivers all of whom clearly have the potential to hit that now almost mythical 1000-yard mark.

    This is the sort of assumption that drives me crazy. Actually, TWO assumptions:

    Assumption 1) the reason why Tavonn has struggled is that Schottenheimer misused him.

    Assumption 2) Tavonn can and WILL explode with a new OC.

    I don’t buy either premise.

    Assumptions. Damn.

    Yeah, i am ‘optimistic’ and ‘hopeful’ but I would not
    assume Tavon will explode with a new OC.

    I do think its reasonable to think a
    third year player will be able to
    do some things a second year player wont,
    but who knows.

    And it is interesting to hear that the new OC
    may be “simplifying” the offense some.
    That idea intrigues me. I do seem
    to recall a time when the rams
    got a bit better by “simplifying”
    the Giunta defense, and i do recall
    the 49ers getting better when Harbaugh
    “simplified” things for their QB, etc.

    w
    v

    #18590
    Herzog
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    Also, remember when Schotty was fired from The Jets. One of the main things they talked about was that they can now “simplify” things.

    There’s something to this but I don’t know what it is.

    #18592
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    Assumption 1) the reason why Tavonn has struggled is that Schottenheimer misused him.

    Assumption 2) Tavonn can and WILL explode with a new OC.

    Agreed. It’s silly. Though the argument is unwinnable. If Tavon improves in 2015 and runs routes he wasn’t as effective at running before, it will be impossible to prove to doubters that he improved, not that the prior coordinator misused him. As little sense as that makes.

    1. Coach Fisher: hey Brian I notice that Tavon can run all the routes Amendola once did, and with equal effectiveness.
    2. Coach Brian: True, but, can’t have him doing that in games though.
    1. Coach Fisher: why not?
    2. Coach Brian: too creative.
    1. Coach Fisher: oh, yeah, right…true.

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    #18621
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    BUT also (Tavon aside) a lot of people, me included, like what they saw in Quick last year.

    I also like the fact that Britt wore his jersey in all practices once he went out.

    Quick could be something. Though it was a bad, bad injury…it may take him a while to come back.

    #18627
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    Well, the promising aspect of this is that it has nothing to do with BQ’s legs.

    A WR with shoulder limitations would perhaps be constrained in some ways reaching up for the ball. And, it would tend to negate his size advantage. But, a shoulder won’t impeded a WR’s ability to get open running routes. It won’t affect speed, cuts, or the other factors impeded by knee or ankle injuries.

    By virtue of the absurd ...

    #18630
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    Well, the promising aspect of this is that it has nothing to do with BQ’s legs.

    A WR with shoulder limitations would perhaps be constrained in some ways reaching up for the ball. And, it would tend to negate his size advantage. But, a shoulder won’t impeded a WR’s ability to get open running routes. It won’t affect speed, cuts, or the other factors impeded by knee or ankle injuries.

    I don’t think there will be permanent damage. From everything I’ve seen, sports medicine really knows how to handle shoulders. But it was so extensive his timeline for a return might be pretty long. It’s not necessarily catching the ball, but it’s taking hits, fighting for the ball, blocking, and weight-lifting. So he may “pull a Bailey” and be up to speed later in the season rather than right off. Meanwhile he could probably run in practices and work on his timing, and so on.

    By “pull a Bailey” I was just thinking about how Stedman didn’t become a factor last year till about the halfway point or thereabouts. Different reasons, same effect.

    But this is just speculation. I haven’t read anything definitive on Quick.

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