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  • #152928
    Avatar photozn
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    Defense big in this game. 7 sacks, 3 INTs. Then the massive 4th and 1 stop in OT.

    Yet in spite of that, Smith outplayed Stafford much of the game and Seattle tied it. But MS finally hit a long one to win it in OT.

    All sorts of strange flags in this game. And non-calls.

    But…a win.

    #152942
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    ugly. so many mistakes. but dline played so well. especially fiske. and way to stuff them at the line in ot. defense gets a to on the blocked punt. int return for td. tons of sacks. wow.

     

    and that counts as a game winning drive for stafford?

     

    puka has to keep his head better. hurt the team today. i’m sure he knows and will learn from this.

     

    but yeah. so many mistakes from both teams, but it’s a win.

    #152944
    Avatar photoRamsMaineiac
    Keymaster

    Defense big, particularly the line, but the defensive backfield is 100% an area where we need improvement.  They got their ints, but far too many big plays given up, to a suspect Seahawks WR corp, that looked like just poor coverage.

    I thought Geno was terrible. Much like our defensive backfield he had his chuck it up moments, but at other moments just made terrible decisions. Glad he is not our QB.

    I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall, next to Puca, when the Rams won.  I am betting a big sigh.

    Road win against a division rival always a good thing.

    #152953
    Avatar photoRamsMaineiac
    Keymaster

    I think maybe good teams show that they can win… even when its ugly. Maybe this is a sign? lol

    #152955
    Avatar photocanadaram
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    Perhaps it is hyperbole on my part, but Verse’s sack was incredible. Best sack I’ve seen by a Rams edge rusher since Little or Quinn. I can’t stop thinking about how he bullied his way to Smith with both strength and speed.  I think I’m in love. Fiske and Verse really seem to be working out. Last week I thought Kinchens looked lost early in the game. Today he looked like he knew where he had to be more often. Not a perfect game by the Rams db’s but some good moments. Even if McCollough gets some lucky bounces, it is nice to think that the Rams might have some young ballhawks in the secondary.  No TD for Williams, the streak is over. A messy win, but winning a division game on the road is always nice. Especially if you have to comeback to do it.

    #152958
    Avatar photojoemad
    Participant

    The Rams dominated this game…. if you take away the last 90 seconds of each half…

    both the defense and offense WON IT in OT … all phases..

    The Rams have a really good coach and QB… the Rams are a very good team… .

     

    #152960
    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    Got to see last two minutes or so, plus OT. Bonus coverage locally. Nice to see defense play well when it counted, especially the rooks.

    Stafford came up big when he had to, as did Robinson. Great one handed catch, with the DB holding down the other arm. He’s a very good #3 wideout.

    Tied for division lead! Didn’t see that happening after the first few losses.

    #152961
    Avatar photonittany ram
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    The Rams defense is fun to watch.  Perhaps the scariest defensive front in football.  The secondary is opportunistic but is susceptible to big plays.

    The offense was disappointingly sluggish for most of the game with the exception of the third quarter and that final drive in overtime.  I’m not worried about that side of the ball though.  I think they are closer to what we saw against the Vikings than what we saw today.

    Just a half game out of first place with more than half the season to play.   Not bad considering all the injuries they had to overcome.

    #152968
    Avatar photoZooey
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    I echo the “strange flags” and non-calls sentiment. I’m still not sure I got a good look at the Nacua penalty, but it looked like he swung and missed. After the defender kind of assaulted him twice. I was surprised by the ejection. We’ve all seen many far worse personal fouls than that. I thought it was the worse officiating I can remember in… I dunno… several seasons, probably.

    I think Seattle deserves some credit for screwing up the Rams in the first half. Even when Nacua was in there, the Rams weren’t producing anything, and Seattle bottled up Williams most of the day. I think you would have to go back pretty far in time to find a game where he got just 3 yds/carry. He made some helpful plays late in the game, and I thought he was helping keep Stafford alive back there often, so he helped them win.

    I guess Kinchens musta got a game ball. Looked like Smith threw the ball to him on purpose, and he made them pay. Play of the game, or maybe runner-up to Stafford’s last throw and that great catch by Robinson, but they don’t get the chance if Kinchens doesn’t kill that drive plus hang a 6-spot up on them.

    Overall, the secondary looked shaky, though, especially Witherspoon (who maybe gets a break since he just barely got a jersey with his name on it). And thank the lord Metcalf didn’t play, or I think we would be consoling ourselves with a 3-5 record.

    Mind you, the Rams were 3-6 after Week Nine last year, so it could be worse.

    Looked like the OL gave up the most pressure Stafford has seen all season, or at least since the line stabilized, but fortunately the Rams DL cracked the code up front and scuffed up Geno’s backside pretty well.

    I will take any win over Seattle any way I can get it. That wasn’t a Rembrandt, but it mighta been a Pollock, and that’s good enough to send them into the next two games (MIA, NE) as favorites.

    #152970
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    verse, fiske, mccollough, kinchens, speights. all making plays on defense. amazing to see.

    #152973
    Avatar photozn
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    Looked like Smith threw the ball to him on purpose, and he made them pay. Play of the game, or maybe runner-up to Stafford’s last throw and that great catch by Robinson, but they don’t get the chance if Kinchens doesn’t kill that drive plus hang a 6-spot up on them.

    Young (OLB with uniform # 0 ) hits Smiths arm on that throw so the ball is off target.

    #152986
    Avatar photowv
    Participant

    Both teams played ugly and good, and good, and ugly.

    I dunno what to make of it.

    This is not the team we hoped for, with a dominating Offensive line.   Ah well.

    But, if they can eek out a playoff berth…and get some OLine health….

     

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    #152998
    Avatar photoZooey
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    Young (OLB with uniform # 0 ) hits Smiths arm on that throw so the ball is off target.

    The DL got after it yesterday, man. They were flying in from everywhere. And so young. These guys get better every week, and the Rams DL is turning into a problem.

    Now. If they can just learn to contain the slippery QBs….

    #153001
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    wow. so maybe i wasn’t really paying attention the other games or maybe yesterday was just so obvious even i couldn’t miss it. but fiske looked so comfortable. like he’s finally starting to figure it out.

     

    donald his first eight games had 3 sacks and 6 the rest of the way. turner had 1 sack his first eight games and 8 the rest of the way. i don’t about pressures.

     

    fiske has 3 sacks through his first 8 games so i’ll be interested to see how he fares in the second half.

     

     

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    #153006
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    But, if they can eek out a playoff berth…and get some OLine health….

     

    jackson and avila are on their way back.

     

    #153028
    Avatar photowv
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    J.Rodrigue:

    “…he threaded a pass 24 yards toward the right sideline to another veteran, Tyler Johnson, through two sets of defenders’ arms. The throw and catch definitely, assuredly, convincingly were not possible. Except they were.

    And before the Rams’ otherwise constipated and error-filled offense got the ball back in overtime…”

     

    That throw to Tyler Johnson, was one of the most heart-stopping throws i can remember any Ram QB throw.  Ever.    I dunno if it was a TERRIBLE decision or an awesome decision.   Is there a throw that better exemplifies the essence of Stafford, more than that one?    The gunslinger.  Ice-water.  Assassin.  Reckless.  Pinpoint power-accurate.  Stubborn.  Tough.

    I wish some football expert would go over the details of that pass.

    The TD will get all the press coverage, but the pass to TJ was as interesting a play as the Rams will have all year.

     

    …btw, Tyler Johnson, a 5th Round pick,  caught a pass from Tom Brady in the Buc’s Super Bowl win in 2020 over the Chiefs.

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    #153059
    Avatar photonittany ram
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    Is there a throw that better exemplifies the essence of Stafford, more than that one? The gunslinger. Ice-water. Assassin. Reckless. Pinpoint power-accurate. Stubborn. Tough. I wish some football expert would go over the details of that pass. The TD will get all the press coverage, but the pass to TJ was as interesting a play as the Rams will have all year.. w v

    Someone on twitter quipped that if Mahomes had made that throw, there would already be a one-hour televised special about it on NFL network.

    #153060
    Avatar photoZooey
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    Is there a throw that better exemplifies the essence of Stafford, more than that one? The gunslinger. Ice-water. Assassin. Reckless. Pinpoint power-accurate. Stubborn. Tough. I wish some football expert would go over the details of that pass. The TD will get all the press coverage, but the pass to TJ was as interesting a play as the Rams will have all year.. w v

    Someone on twitter quipped that if Mahomes had made that throw, there would already be a one-hour televised special about it on NFL network.

    I agree with all of this. That was either the greatest shitty pass of all time, or the shittiest great pass of all time. Or something. I dunno. But I’ve never seen anything like that before. That was brand new fresh and original.

    You know, he led Tyler Johnson precisely, and put that ball EXACTLY where it need to be for that to be a catch. And the fact that “Pants-Around-His-Ankles” Worrell tried to deposit that check before it got endorsed just adds to it.

    That Stun Gun was set at eleven. That’s all I know.

    #153061
    Avatar photoZooey
    Moderator

    Is there a throw that better exemplifies the essence of Stafford, more than that one? The gunslinger. Ice-water. Assassin. Reckless. Pinpoint power-accurate. Stubborn. Tough. I wish some football expert would go over the details of that pass. The TD will get all the press coverage, but the pass to TJ was as interesting a play as the Rams will have all year.. w v

    Someone on twitter quipped that if Mahomes had made that throw, there would already be a one-hour televised special about it on NFL network.

    I agree with all of this. That was either the greatest shitty pass of all time, or the shittiest great pass of all time. Or something. I dunno. But I’ve never seen anything like that before. That was brand new fresh and original. You know, he led Tyler Johnson precisely, and put that ball EXACTLY where it need to be for that to be a catch. And the fact that “Pants-Around-His-Ankles” Worrell tried to deposit that check before it got endorsed just adds to it. That Stun Gun was set at eleven. That’s all I know.

    I will just add, though, that I had more-or-less the same reaction after that No Look pass in the Super Bowl when I saw it in replays after the game. I didn’t notice it at the time, and neither did Al Michaels, or anybody else, but when I saw the replay, I was like “fuck me.”

    And now I’ve seen Stafford do that repeatedly cuz now I notice that.

    So I dunno, but I have to say that I’m in the “gotta give him the benefit of the doubt on that” because…Matthew Stafford might be the best QB I’ve ever seen. You know, the Rams are not really QB rich, historically. They are RB rich. But not QB rich, even though they have some jewels. So I dunno. But I ain’t complaining about Matthew Stafford. Dude is a dude.

    #153062
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    I agree with all of this. That was either the greatest shitty pass of all time, or the shittiest great pass of all time. Or something. I dunno. But I’ve never seen anything like that before. That was brand new fresh and original. You know, he led Tyler Johnson precisely, and put that ball EXACTLY where it need to be for that to be a catch. And the fact that “Pants-Around-His-Ankles” Worrell tried to deposit that check before it got endorsed just adds to it.

    More than that, I don’t think he makes that pass to anyone but Johnson. Johnson is their big, tough, physical, contested catches guy. Nacua has some of that, but Johnson more so.

    From what I see in different angle vids is that Johnson was either going to prevent the INT or make the catch. As I see it, the CB was moving toward the ball, he wasn’t just standing there, and Johnson saw it all, the ball in the air and the CB.

     

     

    #153065
    Avatar photoZooey
    Moderator

    Well, part of it, I think, is that the camera doesn’t see what Stafford sees.

    If you watch that play through the camera – which is what we do – it looks like an INT all the way, and then Johnson bursts in like a comet and snatches it out of nowhere.

    But that isn’t what Stafford was looking at when he cut that throw loose.

    So, again, I dunno. I’m inclined to think it was a brilliant throw, and Stafford erased Worrell because he tracked Johnson all along, and saw the window.

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