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October 22, 2014 at 8:02 pm #10200znModerator
Austin Davis wows Brett Favre
“Not to sound off my rocker, but [Davis] — in my mind — can be the next Tom Brady or Kurt Warner. [Brian] Hoyer as well. Austin, like those mentioned, just needed a legit opportunity.”- Brett Favre, on Rams QB Austin Davis
It’s safe to say the Seattle Seahawks might not have seen Austin Davis coming either.
In a game highlighted by two risky play calls by his team’s coaching staff, it was Davis’ steady hand that had as much as anything to do with the St. Louis Rams’ 28-26 victory over the reigning Super Bowl champion Sunday in St. Louis.
Davis completed 18 of 21 passes against Seattle for 152 yards. Modest numbers, and dry in comparison to fake punts and fake punt returns. Nevertheless, his play certainly won over at least one admirer.
“Austin can definitely play at this level,” Brett Favre, the only Southern Miss quarterback other than Davis to start more than one NFL game, told ESPN’s Ed Werder.
“Not to sound off my rocker, but [Davis] — in my mind — can be the next Tom Brady or Kurt Warner. [Brian] Hoyer as well.
“Austin, like those mentioned, just needed a legit opportunity.”
At 86 percent, Davis’ completion percentage against the Seahawks set a record for accuracy in a game against a defending Super Bowl champion (minimum 20 passes). He also produced the second-highest completion percentage ever posted against the Seahawks. The highest, incidentally, was by Favre, who went 22 of 25 (88 percent) for the Vikings against Seattle in 2009.
Davis, however, was at his best late in the game.
In the first three quarters, he completed 13 of 14 passes for 77 yards, an average of just 5.9 yards per completion. But after Seattle pulled within two points at 21-19, Davis suddenly needed to come up big.
He hadn’t been able to in the past three weeks after leading a late victory drive in his first start against Tampa Bay. But he found a way Sunday to lead an 80-yard drive to give the Rams the winning points.
Asked Wednesday about Favre’s comments, Davis said he’s not thinking along those lines.
“I don’t really want to be the next anybody,” he said. “I just want to be the first Austin Davis and just keep doing what we’re doing and try to go on a winning streak here. It felt good to get one this past week; I think it was much needed for our football team. We’re just going to try to keep it going.”
Davis said Favre sends him encouraging texts, and that the two spent some time together in Hattiesburg as Davis prepared for the 2012 draft.
“I got a chance to throw with him and meet him,” said Davis, who went undrafted. “I couldn’t quite throw it like he could, so I don’t know if any of his pointers helped me.”
October 22, 2014 at 8:08 pm #10201znModeratorBrett Favre’s comments on Austin Davis unrealistic
By Nick Wagoner | ESPN.com
EARTH CITY, Mo. — It was almost one year ago today that the St. Louis Rams contacted Brett Favre to see if he’d be interested in returning to replace injured quarterback Sam Bradford.
When Favre declined via his representatives, the Rams turned back to a familiar face in the form of Austin Davis. Davis, who spent a season and a training camp with the Rams before being released in the final round of 2013 cuts, re-signed with the Rams on Oct. 23 of last year.
Just before the anniversary of Davis’ return to the Rams, his name is again tied to Favre, but for quite different reasons.
“Austin can definitely play at this level,” Favre, the only Southern Miss quarterback other than Davis to start more than one NFL game, told Werder. “Not to sound off my rocker, but [Davis] — in my mind — can be the next Tom Brady or Kurt Warner. [Brian] Hoyer, as well.
“Austin, like those mentioned, just needed a legit opportunity.”
Since the shooting star that was Warner’s three-year run in St. Louis ended in 2003, any time a little-known quarterback has stepped into the Rams’ starting job, the hope has existed that the player will somehow morph into the next Warner.
Late-round or undrafted quarterbacks such as Keith Null, Scott Covington, Brock Berlin and a few others have tried their hand and failed only to retreat back into anonymity. Others, such as Marc Bulger and Ryan Fitzpatrick, have developed into starters in the league to varying degrees of success, but none developed into potential Hall of Famers like Warner.
As recently as this preseason, some even went so far as to equate Shaun Hill to Warner after Hill became the starter under circumstances similar to Warner’s. That lasted all of one half before a calf injury to Hill gave Davis an opportunity.
But, to the surprise of many, Davis has done enough in his first five starts to give observers pause and consider the possibility that he might have more of a future than the usual third-stringer-turned-starter.
My first reaction to Favre’s comments was to answer his rhetorical supposition with a resounding yes: He is indeed off his rocker. To compare Davis to Warner or Brady, two quarterbacks who will end up in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, is simply not realistic. Brady and Warner are legendary aberrations at a position where the failure rate far outpaces the success stories. Brady and Warner aren’t just success stories — they’re full-blown outliers.
But before we go too far and offer that Favre has truly lost it, it’s important to note that he threw Hoyer’s name into the conversation. Hoyer has stepped in and done some good things for the Cleveland Browns this season, but in no way has he flashed anything resembling Brady or Warner. Brady won a Super Bowl after stepping into the starting lineup. Warner did the same and did it while posting video game numbers.
It’s also important to note that Favre probably wouldn’t mind seeing Davis, who broke most of Favre’s passing records at Southern Miss, carry the flag for his alma mater.
As for Davis, he’s 2-3 as the Rams’ starter, and though he’s posted big numbers in some games, his influence hasn’t turned his team into an instant winner as Warner and Brady once did.
In five starts plus one half, Davis is completing 66 percent of his passes for 1,517 yards, nine touchdowns and four interceptions for a passer rating of 94.3 (14th in the NFL) and a QBR of 60.9 (19th). He’s alternately flashed promise (leading a comeback win against Tampa Bay and a clutch late drive to seal the victory against Seattle) and struggled with backbreaking mistakes (three of his four interceptions have been returned for touchdowns).
That isn’t to say Davis doesn’t have some upside. He brings a fiery and enthusiastic approach that his teammates appreciate, and he has an honest way about him that allows him to openly acknowledge his faults and then set about correcting them the following week.
If nothing else, Davis has proved in his handful of starts that he’s deserving of at least a No. 2 job in the NFL. Beyond that, there is still plenty for Davis to prove. The opportunity to make the starting job his on a permanent basis lies in front of him. Becoming the next Hoyer is certainly possible, and you could argue he’s already outplaying Hoyer. But setting the bar at Warner and Brady is simply asking too much.
October 22, 2014 at 8:36 pm #10204MackeyserModeratorAs well he should wow Brett Favre…
It’d be great if Davis bloomed into a special QB or at the very least that extra special #2 that can hold the fort for Sam while Sam gets the time to finally be the guy he’s capable of being…
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
October 22, 2014 at 8:59 pm #10207RamBillParticipantAre the next few games a true test of Austin Davis’ abilities? ESPN.com Rams Insider Nick Wagoner talks with Randy Karrker on the “Fast Lane” show. Wagoner also talks today’s practice, the LB added yesterday plus more.
October 22, 2014 at 9:59 pm #10209HerzogParticipantI don’t remember anyone ever saying Shaun Hill as the next Warner……I call bullshit
October 22, 2014 at 10:08 pm #10211znModeratorI don’t remember anyone ever saying Shaun Hill as the next Warner……I call bullshit
Davis played well against Seattle, particularly on the final scoring drive.
But…Favre knows him, and touts him a bit.
In 99, we knew who Warner was by game 2 against Atlanta. Davis could grow and become much more than what we expect even now, but…Warner was visible as Warner in game 2 in 99.
October 23, 2014 at 2:13 am #10233znModeratorBernie: Davis looks good, but let’s not go overboard
Bernie Miklasz
Brett Favre reared back and threw another long bomb Wednesday, telling ESPN’s Ed Werder that young Rams quarterback Austin Davis could be the next Kurt Warner or Tom Brady.
Whoa … take it easy there, ol’ No. 4.
“Not to sound off my rocker,” Favre said.
First of all, I don’t think Favre is off his rocker. He’s just off target. His enthusiasm for Davis got the best of him, and so Favre is forcing the comparison to make a point — just the way he once forced passes to make a bold play for a first down or touchdown.
Favre’s basic premise was accurate, however.
As Favre pointed out, you never know about a guy unless he receives a fair chance to show what he can do. That applies to Davis. And in a more grounded comment about his fellow Southern Miss football alum, Favre added: “Austin can definitely play at this level.”
So far that appears to be true, but it’s also very early. Davis has played in only six regular-season NFL games, starting the last five. But I think it’s fair to say that Davis is in the process of exceeding most expectations, including those set by the Rams.
After all, Rams coach Jeff Fisher cut Davis at the end of the 2013 preseason. True, the Rams re-signed Davis after Sam Bradford went down for the season with a knee injury last October. And then the Rams spent a sixth-round 2014 draft choice on SMU quarterback Garrett Gilbert. Going into camp, Davis was behind Bradford and Shaun Hill and at best even with Gilbert.
It’s not as if the staff had high hopes for Davis. But after injuries to Bradford and Hill, Davis made a positive impression when getting his opportunity to play. Hill is healthy, but Fisher has stayed with Davis as his starter.
And before we’re too hard on Fisher for cutting Davis in 2013, remember that coach Dick Vermeil and GM Charley Armey made Warner available for the Cleveland Browns’ expansion draft following the 1998 season. Fortunately for the Rams, the Browns passed.
The Rams weren’t entirely sure what they had in Warner but found out after Trent Green suffered a season-ending knee injury in the third preseason game in 1999.
NFL history is loaded with similar examples. My favorite quarterback of all time, John Unitas, was cut by the Pittsburgh Steelers in his rookie training camp. And no, I’m not comparing Davis to Johnny U, either. (For the record, yes, I am off my rocker — but for entirely different reasons.)
It’s just that even smart football people can fail to recognize a quarterback’s talent and potential the first time around. At least Fisher had the correct instinct to bring Davis back into the fold. And Davis is making the most of his second chance. But it’s unfair to compare him to future Hall of Famers.
“I don’t really think about that,” Davis said Wednesday when asked about Favre’s praise. “I don’t want to be the next anybody — just want to be the first Austin Davis. Just keep doing what we’re doing and try to go on a win streak here. It felt good to get one this past week. It was much needed for our football team. We’re just going to try and keep it going.”
Davis remains humble. He’s got that part down. As Davis told national sports-talk host Dan Patrick earlier this week, he got stopped on the way into the Edward Jones Dome on Sunday when checking in for the Seattle game. The security guard didn’t recognize Davis, who had to show his Rams player ID.
The pertinent question, of course, has nothing to do with Davis becoming the next Warner or Brady. It’s all about whether Davis can become the Rams’ starting quarterback beyond 2014.
If Davis keeps this up, maybe the Rams will stay with him rather than invest a premium 2015 draft choice in a quarterback. Maybe they’ll go with Davis instead of throwing cash at a veteran free-agent quarterback.
It’s way too soon to make such determinations. But it’s been a lot of fun watching Davis perform. I don’t know how his final statistics will look at the end of the year, but right now Davis has posted a higher passer rating as a starter (96.6) than Bradford did in a single season for the Rams. And it’s the same with yards per passing attempt (7.3) and completion percentage (65.4).
Davis has done a good job of handling the first-time starter pressure, as well as the pass-rush pressure. According to the data trackers at Pro Football Focus, Davis has been under pass-rush fire on 40.3 percent of his dropbacks; only three NFL quarterbacks have faced more heat. And his completion percentage when pressured (nearly 55 percent) ranks third among regular NFL quarterbacks.
Davis has been terrific on the money down — third down — ranking third in the NFL with a passer rating of 122.2. His third-down work includes seven touchdowns and one interception. That’s impressive.
Davis has also shown an ability to expand the dimensions of the Rams’ passing game with his mobility and downfield accuracy. He’s quick to dodge defenders to extend plays. And according to Pro Football Focus, Davis ranks fifth among NFL regulars in completion percentage (51.7 percent) on throws that travel at least 20 yards in the air.
One minus is recognizing the rush and bailing out safely by throwing the ball away. Another negative has been his tendency to force throws. This is pretty standard stuff for young starting quarterbacks.
We’ve seen Davis lead a couple of excellent comebacks at Tampa Bay, and at Philadelphia. And we’ve seen him bounce back from his worst performance — the second half vs. San Francisco — to play exceptionally well in the upset victory over Seattle.
Asked by the coaches to be more efficient and cut down on his mistakes, Davis completed 18 of 21 passes against the Seahawks for 152 yards and two touchdowns with no turnovers. And when the Rams needed a score late in the fourth quarter, Davis connected on four of five throws (including a touchdown flip) to lead his offense on an 80-yard TD drive.
It’s important for a young quarterback to learn and rebound from his mistakes. Again, it’s early, but Davis seems to have the ability to do just that.
There’s a lot to like here, including his energy and the entertaining style that’s freshened a tired position.
None of this means Davis will become a great NFL quarterback — or even the Rams’ starter for 2015. But I do know this: The more Davis plays, the more I want to see of him.
October 23, 2014 at 11:50 am #10248joemadParticipantOld Tweets on AD from last year Oct 2013
@mortreport: When Rams called Bus Cook, Favre’s agent, they did sign Austin Davis, another Cook client. Davis broke all of Favre’s records at So Miss
@JPBurcks: @mortreport and he already knows the play book
@denver423: @mortreport they should give @ddonaldson423 guy Jon Crompton a shot
@fauxjasongarret: @mortreport So you’re saying he throws interceptions better than Favre?
@JoeGiza: @mortreport does he wear Wranglers?
@mickyank7: @mortreport Voice of reason thanks Mort
@reddeer1: @mortreport love Brett Bus just needed publicity he lives for it
@Jrodlaca: @mortreport thank you for providing the connection. Seriously, Favre a QB in 2013. #C’monMan
@GibEllis47: “@mortreport: Rams sign Austin Davis, who broke all of Favre’s records at So Miss” Congratulations @adavis8971!! Harvest ended just in time!
@adavis8971: @GibEllis47 haha I know, it’s an exciting week
@MRBIGFELIX1: @mortreport tell Jeff fisher & the Rams 2 give Jamarcus Russell a chance I think he deserves one
October 23, 2014 at 12:01 pm #10249RamBillParticipantESPN’s Mark Schlereth gives his take on Austin Davis in light of Brett Favre calling Davis the “next Brady, Warner.”
http://www.rams-news.com/espns-mark-schlereths-impression-of-rams-qb-austin-davis-video/
October 23, 2014 at 9:29 pm #10315znModeratorHS coach says Rams QB Austin Davis went a year without throwing a pick until the last practice
Jason Jordan
October 23, 2014
Before Michael Jordan was making Bryon Russell fall with a killer crossover and draining the go ahead jumper to win his sixth NBA title with the Chicago Bulls, Jordan was a skinny, determined athlete dominating the competition at Laney High (Wilmington, N.C.).
Before Adrian Peterson was trucking opposing defenses and racking up 2,097 yards in a single season for the Minnesota Vikings he was shining bright under the Friday night lights at Palestine High (Palestine, Texas), averaging 12 yards a carry and scoring 32 touchdowns.
Before any athlete can become legendary they have to lay their foundation in the high school ranks.
Each week I’ll chat with a high-profile athlete’s former coach, mentor, family member, etc., and reminisce about their high school playing days; everything from the greatest moment to the wackiest story.
This week I caught up with St. Louis Rams quarterback Austin Davis’ high school coach at West Lauderdale (Collinsville, Miss.) Stan McCain.
Jason Jordan: I know Austin was the most accomplished player in West Lauderdale history so this will be hard; what’s your best memory of him on the field?
Stan McCain: You know there were so many; he really came into his own by the end of his sophomore year. He was our starter and played OK, but wasn’t doing what I thought he could do. Then he turned it on in the playoffs and took us all the way to the state title game. He could really throw the ball man! We were a Wing-T team so we didn’t throw the ball as much as some other schools. We used his legs and his arm.
JJ: What’s your best memory of Austin off the field?
SM: He had a group of about eight or nine friends that all came up together and they were always together fishing and hanging out and all that stuff. For the most part he was all about ball; if he wasn’t in the batting cage he was throwing the football.
JJ: What’s the craziest story you can recall from his recruitment?
SM: He didn’t get all the loads of offers because, like I said, we had a Wing-T offense so that hurt his stats a little. The thing I remember is that he made the Mississippi-Alabama All Star game and Southeastern Louisiana really wanted him bad. They saw his value before any other school saw it and wanted him to come in and start as a freshman, but he decided to sign a baseball scholarship with Southern Mississippi and walk-on to the football team. The best thing that happened to him was when Coach Fedora came in and gave him a legitimate shot at starting. When he did that they couldn’t get him off the field.
JJ: What was his personality on the team?
SM: He was the leader. He was the guy that the guys on the team looked up to. They knew he could get them wins and they did what he said. He’s a great leader and he knows how to get his teammates to play for him as hard as they can. You’ll start seeing it more and more.
JJ: What’s something about Austin that people would be shocked to know?
SM: Well, he was one of our slower quarterbacks; he ran about a 5.2 40 and that didn’t set well with him. At the end of the football season he was starting baseball and after baseball practice you’d see him stretching a running sprints. By the time he finished baseball season four months later he was down to a 4.7. Another thing is that he went his whole senior year without throwing one interception; I’m talking in games and in practice.
Think about that. I mean he never threw one pick. Then the week of our playoff game he threw one in practice. We literally just stopped and all looked at each other because we’d never seen that all year. We pass a lot in practice too; plenty of opportunities to throw interceptions and he never threw one. Not one. Then he threw it on that last practice. He ended up throwing one in the game too!
JJ: Do the Rams have their quarterback of the future in Austin Davis?
SM: You better believe it. I knew that all he needed was a chance. I knew if he were to get a chance it’d be hard to get that joker out of there. He got his chance and he’s not letting go! I know there are great quarterbacks in the NFL, but none of them will outwork him or study harder than him. Somebody’s gonna have to beat his tail back out to put him on the bench. I think he can will them to wins too. He’s just that type of player. I’ll tell you what; if they don’t make the playoffs it won’t be because of him. He’ll more than do his part.
October 23, 2014 at 9:33 pm #10317znModeratorfrom off the net
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I watched four shows on ESPN today and all 12 of the panelists said that it’s early but they really liked what they saw in Davis….they were unanimous in their opinion that this kid has “it” and can be very successful in the NFL…..I’m on board….let’s see how this season plays out..!
October 24, 2014 at 10:12 am #10344znModeratorPeter King
PLAYER YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS WEEKENDhttp://mmqb.si.com/2014/10/24/nfl-week-8-preview-london-morning-game/2/
Austin Davis, quarterback, St. Louis (number 9). As Davis leads the Rams into Arrowhead Stadium for a rare cross-state game with the cross-conference Chiefs, I don’t think the road will intimidate or affect him much. In two road starts in his young and stunningly good NFL career, he’s been a revelation: 65 percent completions, three touchdowns, no interceptions, 7.78 yards per attempt.
Davis is getting more confident as the weeks go by. He was in total control against the Seahawks last week, completing 17 of 20 and taking no sacks in St. Louis’ upset win. To beat the Chiefs, though, I think he’s going to have take a few chances downfield against a secondary that’s had a few plays made against it. Kansas City’s defense has only three interceptions and surrendered a passer rating of 94.8 to opposing quarterbacks.
October 24, 2014 at 8:03 pm #10379RamBillParticipant
Tipsheet: Shedding positive light on Austin Davis
• By Jeff GordonThe NFL is no place for young quarterbacks. The league chews up most of them and spits them to the curb.
Within that context, the progress of Rams quarterback Austin Davis is heartening.
Each year fans fall in love with the Next New Thing at the position. They see fresh talent. Better yet, they see the absence of failure — the most precious quality for any quarterback.
And then, almost inevitably, the prospect fails to meet his outsized expectations. The Washington You-Know-Whos might be the most glaring example of this.
That team sent a giant package of draft picks to the Rams for the opportunity to draft Robert Griffin III, who flashed tremendous potential before hobbling down the Sam Bradford Injury Trail.
Then Kirk Cousins became Washington’s Quarterback of the Future . . . until he fell apart and became a turnover machine. Now the team has turned to Colt McCoy, the Cleveland Browns washout who is still a relative baby face.
ESPN.com’s John Clayton updates us on what else is happening at the position:
Frustrated with Jake Locker’s injuries and Charlie Whitehurst’s underwhelming play, Tennessee Titans coach Ken Whisenhunt will start sixth-round pick Zach Mettenberger against the Houston Texans on Sunday. He becomes the third rookie quarterback to take over during the season, joining (Teddy) Bridgewater and Jacksonville’s Blake Bortles. Second-rounder Derek Carr has been the starter all season for winless Oakland.
The demotion of Locker pretty much ends the tenures of three 2011 first-rounders (Christian Ponder, Blaine Gabbert and Locker) with their original teams. But going young hasn’t necessarily worked this season. Bortles is 1-3 and has thrown 10 interceptions, and Bridgewater is 1-2 with five picks against one touchdown. For what it’s worth, teams that have resorted to backups (regardless of NFL experience) are just 12-20 this season.
This reminds us of the magnitude of Davis’ challenge. So the fact he bounced back from a rough outing against the 49ers with a mistake-free game against Seattle was notable.
It is way, way early to start making Kurt Warner/Tom Brady comparisons — as Bernie Miklasz emphasized earlier this week — but Davis certainly makes the rest of this season more interesting.
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