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April 25, 2020 at 1:47 pm #114138znModerator
Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Rams draft TE Brycen Hopkins from Purdue at No. 136 in the fourth round.DOWNTOWN RAMS [DTR]@DowntownRams
Brycen Hopkins told me at the Senior Bowl the #Rams saw him and Tyler (Higbee) as a tandem.John McClain@McClain_on_NFL
…Purdue TE Brycen Hopkins, son of former Oilers OT Brad Hopkins, a first-round pick in 1993.PFF@PFF
Brycen Hopkins, TE, PurdueRanked #109 on their Big Board
his pure speed makes him a weapon, but has unreliable hands
April 25, 2020 at 1:49 pm #114139znModeratorThis is the bullet-point takeaway from our Dane Brugler on TE Brycen Hopkins. I'd encourage you to read Dane's draft guide for amazing deep looks at all these guys. pic.twitter.com/gfIHoBW4kR
— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) April 25, 2020
April 25, 2020 at 1:54 pm #114140znModeratorPFF: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-college-football-2020-nfl-draft-superlatives-tight-end
MOST FUN TO WATCH: BRYCEN HOPKINS, PURDUE
I debated not including this category at all because it’s not a particularly fun tight end group to watch. However, Hopkins is fun to watch because he’s a wild card. He’ll alternate spectacular catches and downfield grabs with shockingly easy drops. If drops weren’t an issue, he’d likely be at the top of the PFF board, but who wants a tight end they can’t rely on? His 22 drops on 152 career catchable are massively concerning.
April 25, 2020 at 2:12 pm #114142znModeratorLindseyThiry@LindseyThiry
The Rams lost me with that pick. TE Brycen Hopkins might be a nice target, but still wondering who will play ILB and what the plan is opposite of Jalen Ramsey. And OL…At TE: Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett, Johnny Mundt, Kendall Blanton, Ethan Wolf.
April 25, 2020 at 2:28 pm #114144znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
New Rams TE Brycen Hopkins said “a lot of the film” he watched at Purdue was of Western Kentucky and Tyler Higbee.“We would watch Higbee and the tight ends there and how they ran the plays and try to mirror that, or if we can, maybe adjust it even better to our own offense.”
The connection here is Jeff Brohm coached Tyler Higbee at Western Kentucky and Hopkins at Purdue. New Rams strength coach Justin Lovett also worked with both Higbee and Hopkins.
April 25, 2020 at 2:29 pm #114145znModeratorDeadpool
Brycen Hopkins
From my big Board:68. Brycen Hopkins – TE – Purdue – 6′-4″ 245 lbs. –
Your prototypical new age TE. A mismatch problem in the middle of the field that is a smooth, easy mover. Not an inline blocker, I worry a bit about his hands.
My #1 TE, 1 of 3 Tier 1 TEs, my 3rd best player available on my Rams Stacked Board at time of pick
Pros:
Vertical seam threat
Decent speed (4.66)
Soft hands will pluck the ball
good athlete for the position
OK after the catch
competes for the ballCons:
does have some drops (concentration?)
Not a great inline blocker
Not a ton of powerHe is my #1 TE simply because this is what the new age TE looks like. 6′-4″, 245 and can stretch a defense vertically down the seam. Not a ton of wiggle but he can do damage in the open field. I think he is a H-back, move TE in the NFL.
From my senior bowl practice thoughts 12/27/19: http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,755554,766919#msg-766919
TEs
Brycen Hopkins – Purdue – my #2 or 3ish TE right now. I want to see him catch the ball at the senior bowl. I have concerns, but he gets open.From Alyo’s post Senior Bowl review: http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,772750,772773#msg-772773
Alyo – Purdue Brycen Hopkins TE Big Ten He’s on everyone’s radar so he’ll go early. Deadpool -1st TE off the board? Probably
From Alyo’s combine post: http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,776130,776208#msg-776208
TEs:
Who cares they all suck. No not really, But I have zero first rounders.
Hopkins is my top guy and he is 245. Shaky hands. Gauntlet should be an adventure for him (Me now – he had a very good combine IMO)April 25, 2020 at 3:15 pm #114155znModeratorHis 22 drops on 152 career catchable are massively concerning.
Deadpool
I think with Brycen, he just needs to focus, because you will see him pluck ball after ball with little effort and then boom. A drop. So if he wants playing time and wants to be a pro football player, he will clean that up. Because unlike some that just don’t have natural hands, he has the ability to clean it up.
I’m not concerned. Esp for an end of 4th rounder. Great value, good player.
April 25, 2020 at 4:25 pm #114158wvParticipantSo, they drafted another Jared Cook?
Can you teach a guy to not drop easy balls?
Ah well. I have an open mind on all these guys, but we are all gonna be watching this guy’s hands.
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vApril 25, 2020 at 6:14 pm #114170canadaramParticipantOurlads
Two-year starter, Nashville, TN. Really blossomed in his final year on campus. Earned first-team All Big 10 and All-America honors in addition to being named the conference’s Tight End of the Year in 2019 after being named honorable mention in 2018. He is a flex tight end who can be moved around pre-snap. Passes the initial eyeball test when lining up inline and in the backfield, but his ideal fit is split out where he can out-quick a linebacker and out-muscle a defensive back. Has production on all levels of the route tree but his hands aren’t considered consistent enough to be considered a big time threat in the passing game. Has the look of a second or third tight end who can be effective in specific portions of the playbook. Has good athleticism for the position when it comes to both straight line speed and short area quickness. Productive from multiple positions. Plays a smart high-IQ game as a route runner and blocker. Understands what and how the defense works, will find the windows to exploit and angles to take advantage of. Excellent route runner with the shake and burst to create separation. Will break tackles after the catch with a hard-nosed style and a strong centre of gravity. May not be able to add much more bulk to his frame. Lets too many balls hit the ground that he should bring in. Needs to show more urgency as a route runner. Will play too high which slows him down and takes away from already-low power game. 2019 stats: 61-830, 13.6 apr, 7 TD. OSR: 7/19, Fourth/Fifth round. (A-32 1/8, H-10 1/8, VJ 33.5, SS-4.28).
April 27, 2020 at 12:32 am #114294znModeratorfrom Senior Bowl standouts who raised their stock: https://nflspinzone.com/2020/01/26/nfl-draft-2020-senior-bowl-standouts-rising-stock/8/
Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue
Brycen Hopkins worked himself into the TE2 conversation and a Day 2 prospect. Coming into Senior Bowl week, it was clear what Hopkins was not an in-line blocker but he wasn’t taking that lying down, per the Indianapolis Star:
“I came here to prove my physicality, to show that I am a willing blocker and I can stick my head in there a little bit…That’s what they’re looking for in these pro-style offenses. They just want to see a tight end that can widen out, stretch the field and make plays for them, then come down in-line and be a willing blocker.”
Over the course of the week, Hopkins showed that he’s one of the best route runners regardless of his position. The 6-3, 241-pound tight end showed off an elite catch radius. He caught everything thrown his way and displayed insane athleticism.
Hopkins is in the same mold as guys like Charles Clay and Delanie Walker where he’s used as a big slot. Though he can’t be counted out as an in-line option. That all makes him a dangerous weapon in the right system.
April 27, 2020 at 12:45 am #114295InvaderRamModeratorBrycen Hopkins worked himself into the TE2 conversation and a Day 2 prospect. Coming into Senior Bowl week, it was clear what Hopkins was not an in-line blocker but he wasn’t taking that lying down, per the Indianapolis Star:
his dad is brad hopkins. surely he can teach his son to block…
April 27, 2020 at 9:49 am #114301nittany ramModeratorOn the Downtown Rams draft coverage they mentioned that when the Rams met with Hopkins during Senior Bowl week, McVay told Hopkins he would be excited to pair him with Higbee.
This pick would imply that Everett is likely gone. No point in having two athletic TEs who can’t block, right?
April 27, 2020 at 3:32 pm #114313ZooeyModeratorI am so *(&#@)^# tire of Tight Ends. We draft one or two every year, and they’re all destined for greatness, and they never achieve it, and I don’t know what the hell TEs are even for except a decoy. If they can’t block, though, eff ’em. You don’t throw to them often enough to make them worth it, seems to me.
And yet…I’m clearly wrong. Because if I wasn’t wrong, nobody would draft TEs.
April 27, 2020 at 7:12 pm #114320wvParticipantI am so *(&#@)^# tire of Tight Ends. We draft one or two every year, and they’re all destined for greatness, and they never achieve it, and I don’t know what the hell TEs are even for except a decoy. If they can’t block, though, eff ’em. You don’t throw to them often enough to make them worth it, seems to me.
And yet…I’m clearly wrong. Because if I wasn’t wrong, nobody would draft TEs.
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I havent seen such *(&#@)^#-ing language since the Great H-Back controversy of Whatever year that was.
I’m too old to remember what the Hback controversy was even about. Anybody remember?
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vApril 28, 2020 at 9:54 am #114342AgamemnonParticipantApril 28, 2020 at 9:59 am #114343AgamemnonParticipantBrycen Hopkins aspires to be a complete TE like George Kittle
Brycen Hopkins aspires to be a complete TE like George Kittle
George Kittle has burst onto the scene in the last two years as arguably the best tight end in the NFL. He did so as a former fifth-round pick out of Iowa with almost no college production.
Brycen Hopkins was taken by the Rams a round earlier, but he aspires to be a similar tight end as Kittle has become for the 49ers – a tight end who’s equal parts receiver and blocker.
“You know, I always want to say George Kittle,” Hopkins said when asked which tight ends he wants to model his game after. “I think he’s got the best of both worlds, he’s the best tight end, but just the way that he always plays disciplined in the receiving game and in the blocking game with his technique and his fundamentals, but also as an athlete, I think that’s something that I admire the most about him as a player. As much as I can mirror myself after him, I would love to do that. Also, another player, Mark Andrews, Zach Ertz – other players like that.”
Hopkins comes into the NFL as a better receiver than blocker, but his hands are questionable at times. He dropped 22 passes in his career at Purdue, most of which were the result of him taking his eyes off the ball and trying to turn upfield.
That can happen sometimes when you’re as fast and athletic as he is in the open field, trying to gain big yardage after the catch. He wants to improve his concentration at the catch point to hopefully eliminate those drops.
“I think one of my strengths is my ability to create separation at the top of routes and use athleticism and go up and get the ball,” he said. “I want to become a more consistent catcher. I don’t have bad hands. I just think that I can concentrate more on that ball and look it in and then my drop rate would go way down. I would just be able to become that more consistent catcher that everyone wants to see out of me.”
Kittle’s hands are as good as they come for a pass-catcher, so Hopkins is on the right track with those aspirations. He only dropped two passes on 107 targets last season, a drop rate of only 1.9%, which was fifth-best among all receivers with at least 100 targets.
Hopkins has the makings of a dynamic tight end, he just needs to put it all together – and he’s picked a pretty good player to model his game after.
May 20, 2020 at 12:29 pm #115126znModeratorWhat about Brycen Hopkins piqued the Rams' interest? https://t.co/8iOvPr2X0G
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) May 20, 2020
May 20, 2020 at 2:02 pm #115129AgamemnonParticipant“Coach McVay told us to find players who could double up and create separation. I always thought Brycen could do that — it was very natural for him.”
Inside draft meetings evaluating @Itsbhop89 out of @BoilerFootball! pic.twitter.com/PMkfZ1u72F
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) May 19, 2020
May 24, 2020 at 11:37 am #115279znModeratorRookie TE Brycen Hopkins always working to get better on the field
J.B. Long
https://www.therams.com/news/rookie-te-brycen-hopkins-working-to-get-better-on-the-field
It was the refrain caroming around Brycen Hopkins NFL Draft preparations.
And by the time he became a Day Three selection of the Los Angeles Rams, Hopkins had heard enough about his unreliable hands.
“Man! I don’t want to come up with excuses,” the former Purdue tight end told us when we asked how sick he was of being asked about the drops.
“They don’t like to give me any credibility for the catches, for any of the good catches I had. It’s all about drops. It’s something I’m working on. It’s all concentration. It’s not like I don’t have hands. I’ve shown everybody that I can catch. It’s just something I will be working on; I will get better at.”
Ted Monago ran point on evaluating the Big Ten Tight End of the Year and offered this statistical context.
“It’s kind of like missed tackles with defensive players,” the Rams assistant director of college scouting said. “His drops went from 4 to 7, but his targets went from 54 in 2018 to 91 in 2019… and his receptions went up (from 34 to 61).”
“We tend to nitpick those things as scouts,” Monago added.
According to Rams general manager Les Snead, when you’re the top-targeted player on your team, it’s a healthy sign the offensive coordinator – and more importantly, the quarterback – trust you. Perhaps that’s why 40 of his receptions went for first-downs.
“Sometimes you let the quarterback tell you,” the Rams general manager said of the reputation Hopkins had carved out in West Lafayette.
Hopkins spent five campaigns at Purdue and is 23-years old, but relatively young in football seasons, having started his competitive career as a junior in high school. His father, Brad, was an All-Pro left tackle and lined up for the Titans against the Rams in Super Bowl XXXIV.
Going into the 2020 Draft, he was position coach Wes Phillips’ “number one player” and the most fun tight end to watch according to Pro Football Focus.
Nonetheless, Snead described adding to the tight end room as a luxury, and as a result, the Rams felt comfortable trading down in the fourth round, acquiring two additional seventh-round picks from Houston in the process. That would later enable them to select kicker Sam Sloman and their only offensive lineman of the 2020 Draft, Tremayne Anchrum.
Fortunately, their preferred tight end was still on the board 10 picks later when Los Angeles was back on the clock. And they’re hoping the move from 126 to 136 overall is remembered as the most significant “drop” of Hopkins’ career as a Ram.
May 24, 2020 at 12:13 pm #115289InvaderRamModeratorvisions of higbee and hopkins running through my mind.
i was about to post about higbee when i saw this thread come up again.
higbee based on the last 6 games of the 2019 season would have projected to go 128 receptions and 1445 yards over 16 games. pff ranked him the 74th best player in the nfl. that’s a little wild to me. i hope goff and mcvay keep finding him. he’s under contract for four more years at very little cost.
brycen hopkins does have upside. he’s certainly physically what you look for. i just hope he can cut down on the drops. i have watched his highlights, and he makes some spectacular catches. so he has the ability. and he’s gotta get with his dad and learn how to block! put some of his dad’s game tape on and get some tips.
i’m not overly positive about this pick. but i’m hoping he can overcome the drops and learn how to block. that’s a helluva tight end duo if he is able to do that.
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