Anybody watching Game of Thones?

nittany ram wrote:

Billy_T wrote:

Obviously, spoilers. But a suggestion first, for anyone who will watch the episode soon:

Tweak your TV settings before hand to deal with the dark. Most of the episode is, IMO, waaay too dark, and all of my pre-show tweaking failed to really make it visible enough. Hopefully, you’ll have better luck.

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However, it was dramatic watching the fires from the Dothraki swords being extinguished in the distance.

Who woulda thunk the Night King would have been defeated with three episodes to go?

Well, onto to King’s Landing. Of course, John and Dani don’t have an army anymore….

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Yeah, as soon as it was announced that Episode Three was the Big Battle with the White Walkers, it was pretty clear that the living would defeat the dead. It was just a matter of who survived. It might have made more dramatic sense to do what they’ve done in past seasons, and make this the penultimate episode.

That said, I liked what I could see, but, as mentioned above, I couldn’t see much. Which, at least from an artistic standpoint, means I can’t give the episode even a passing grade. The absence of enough light to make out most of the action all but ruined it for me.

Loved who they chose to give the death blow to the Night King — it wasn’t expected, at least by me. Loved the short scene between Sansa and Tyrion in the crypt, and there was pathos there when Jorah died, held by Dany, protected soon enough by one of the dragons.

Agreed, Nittany: How are they going to fight Cersei now? They lost nearly all of their fighters. Again, the darkness made this more than confusing, but it looked like all the Dothraki were wiped out, as well as the Unsullied.

We struggled with the darkness too. It got better after we turned off every light in and around our living room, but it was still difficult.

The darkness also made the scene where John’s dragon is battling the Night King’s dragon difficult to follow, and the choreography was poor we thought.

yeah, the lighting sucked… tough to follow…..

Poor Theon…. he went to hell and back in this series….. i’m surprised that he had survived this long…..

Episode 3 — spoilers.

First off, I think they have wasted Tyrian and Verris (sp?)so far this season. Dinklage was the best part of this series and they are wasting his talents. And Verris might as well not even exist anymore. I think those are mistakes. Focusing on the Dragon queen, who has zero charisma and zero talent is a mistake, imho.

The big battle scene was ok, but it was not as good as the battle of the bastards.

The Dragon stuff was all good. The dragons at night, battling, were awesome. (I couldnt figure out what happened to John’s dragon? How many dragons are left?)

I am in favor of Drogon sitting on the Iron Throne.

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Drogon is one of the dragons born in the Dothraki sea. Commanded by Daenerys Targaryen, he is named for her dead husband, Drogo.

Drogon is believed to be the reincarnation of Balerion the Black Dread, but Daenerys decides to give him a new name for his new life.[1]

The largest and most aggressive of Daenerys’s three dragons, Daenerys has problems reining him in.
Contents:https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Drogon

Appearance

See also: Images of Drogon

Drogon’s scales are black, his horns and spinal plates are blood red,and his eyes are smouldering red pits.[2] His teeth are black as well.[3][2] his flame is black fire shot with red and the wash of its heat can be felt thirty feet away. His wing flap sounds like the clap of thunder. He bleeds black blood.[2]

As of A Dance with Dragons, Drogon’s wings stretch twenty feet from tip-to-tip, black as jet.[2]

nittany ram wrote:

See, I thought the dragon fight was hard to follow. And it was difficult to tell what the outcome was. Immediately after the fight when John’s dragon sorta crash landed, they never showed it again. However, I’m pretty sure it’s ok. I assumed the Night King’s dragon was dead so I was surprised to see it wreaking havoc inside Winterfell later on.

Apologies, Nittany, if I’m saying something here you already knew:

The Night King reanimated all the dead, including his blue-flame dragon. That’s why he was able to wreak that havoc inside Winterfell later on.

And part of me was just thinking, “Oh, come on!! Enough is enough!!” The fighting was close to too much even before the reanimation — as in, it’s kinda just too unfair for words, going up against an endless horde of zombies. Like, the Rams having to face the Patriots defense without an offensive line and shackles on Goff’s feet.

The refs should have stepped in and flagged the Night King for unsportsman-like reanimations.

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Ahhh. I also was confused about the nightking’s dragon showing up alive. So he got re-animated. Its all problematic isnt it. I mean, how many times can he reanimate things? Over and over again? Can he re-animate pieces of things? Fingers? Eyeballs?

I agree on the “too unfair for words” feeling. There were times that was how i was feeling watching it. I dont know whether to give them credit for building that feeling or to criticize it. I guess its what they were goin for given the storyline. But it does raise questions about just how dark is ‘too dark’? Is there such a thing? Is there a limit?

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Sometimes I think writers set up impossibly hopeless conflicts and dilemmas, and it seems they trap themselves in the process. This sometimes necessitates sudden, almost too easy answers that resolve the conflict all at once. In this case, killing the Night King instantly wipes out the entire Army of the Dead, which a few of the characters suspected would happen way back. But then why didn’t they concentrate on all of that from Day One?

Of course, that would have meant the journey itself wasn’t necessary, so writers can’t do that. We’d all be out of work!!

So, yeah. You can go too dark. And then it almost means you have to truncate and over-simplify the way out, instead of perhaps dialing back the impossibility and hopelessness of things, and maybe end the crisis with a bit more complexity and time factored in.

JJ Abrams tends to choose the impossible, hopeless odds, and then the too clever by half resolution. A lot of showrunners follow his lead.

All of that said, my complaints about “too much” made me also think of Tom Hanks and his “There is no crying in zombie killing battles.” So I have to look at it from that angle, too.

All in all, I favor the depiction of epic encounters with monsters and beasts, requiring all kinds of courage and tenacity, but I think you have to give the heroes legit chances to survive. The momentum of the story should be able to work without Deus ex Machinas, in general.

wv wrote:

is GrayWorm dead? I kinda hope so

Well, he’s undersized, granted, but great short area quickness.

I don’t think he’s dead.

wv wrote:

Are ALL the Dothraki dead?

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No.

Just the ones that followed Daenerys to Westeros.

nittany ram wrote:

wv wrote:

Are ALL the Dothraki dead?

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No.

Just the ones that followed Daenerys to Westeros.

That makes sense, Nittany. But I thought most of them did follow her.

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Billy_T wrote:

I think the Hound made it. He still needs to settle matters with his brother.

Yeah, the Hound’s destiny is to fight his brother. It’s been my prediction since before they announced that season 7 was the final season that the Hound would die from wounds he suffered while killing the Mountain in battle.

I can picture him dying with his head cradled in Arya’s lap or something.

Of course, very little of what I predicted for this show has come to pass, so…

nittany ram wrote:

Billy_T wrote:

I think the Hound made it. He still needs to settle matters with his brother.

Yeah, the Hound’s destiny is to fight his brother. It’s been my prediction since before they announced that season 7 was the final season that the Hound would die from wounds he suffered while killing the Mountain in battle.

I can picture him dying with his head cradled in Arya’s lap or something.

Of course, very little of what I predicted for this show has come to pass, so…

I can see that happening, definitely. But, yeah, you’re right. The showrunners love to play with expectations. Probably more that Martin does in his books.

nittany ram wrote:

His laptop should be buried under a couple thousand ice cubes.

Everyone knows white walkers post from cell phones only.

I won’t comment on people who CLAIM to know their GOT but then invariably slip up and reveal the opposite.

I bet you’re one of those who thinks Arya, not Bran, is the 3-eyed albatross.

Billy_T wrote:

Maybe a small revelation or two. But it won’t be “big.”

I heard that in this episode, Thanos mind melds with the Tholians.

Not sure how reliable that rumor is.

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Well that was just the first half. Lol.

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