Anybody think Trump still has a chance?

Ozoneranger wrote:

I have a hard time taking Trump seriously no matter what comes out of his mouth. The thing with him is, he says whatever pops in his mind in the last second…He cannot help himself (I had the same problem early in my marriage- I recognized this flaw in the earliest days of his campaign.). I don’t for a second believe his words implied violence of any sort. More like blowback from gun advocates if she picked justices who may erode the 2nd in any way, shape or form.

That said, if elected his lack of disciplined thought and speech is dangerous. The president speaks for the country, his\her words are interpreted as policy and position, particularly overseas. That’s what scares me.

I don’t know. I am inclined to think it was talking smack rather than a seriously felt call for violence. But that doesn’t excuse it. It’s dangerous to say shit like that. Sarah Palin posted a map of the US on her website with crosshairs on candidates she thought should be targeted for political elimination. Well, one of those people was Gabrielle Giffords, who subsequently got shot in the head. So I don’t think it makes it any better if Trump was mildly kidding. I don’t have to convince anyone here that this country has an ample supply of examples of nutjobs who have gone off with guns, including Giffords’ assassin. Hell, Trump’s comment could have been an OBVIOUS joke and it would still have been completely reckless, irresponsible, and possibly criminal. I mean…go to an airport and jokingly announce your shaving cream is a bomb and see what happens to your ass. You can’t joke about killing politicians and judges. There is some asshole in the audience who may get to thinking hard about the idea. And, let’s face it: there already ARE several assholes out there who have fantasized about it, and along comes a hero of theirs who gives a little wink to the idea, and that is enough to push someone into action.

And you’re right. A president REALLY, REALLY can’t go off. As much as the red meat crowd would love it if President Trump insulted the French, and the Germans, and the Japanese, and Whoever, it’s just….

I cannot believe that Hillary Clinton is actually preferable to somebody else. But she is.

Zooey wrote:

And you’re right. A president REALLY, REALLY can’t go off. As much as the red meat crowd would love it if President Trump insulted the French, and the Germans, and the Japanese, and Whoever, it’s just….

I cannot believe that Hillary Clinton is actually preferable to somebody else. But she is.

When Clinton ran against Obama, didn’t she say he could be removed from the race the same way RFK was or words to that effect? Even someone as coldly calculating and measured in their comments as Hillary Clinton is can make those mistakes.

Zooey wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

Zooey wrote:

And you’re right. A president REALLY, REALLY can’t go off. As much as the red meat crowd would love it if President Trump insulted the French, and the Germans, and the Japanese, and Whoever, it’s just….

I cannot believe that Hillary Clinton is actually preferable to somebody else. But she is.

When Clinton ran against Obama, didn’t she say he could be removed from the race the same way RFK was or words to that effect? Even someone as coldly calculating and measured in their comments as Hillary Clinton is can make those mistakes.

That does ring a bell.

And watching her laugh about killing Kaddafi is chilling, actually. “We came. We saw. He died…ha, ha, ha.” WTF is going on?

You’re right, Clinton made similar comments about Obama in 08.

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-rfk-comment/

And it goes back even further. When EMK announced his run against Carter back in 79, 80, Carter immediately assigned SS protection to Kennedy, sparking outrage.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1979/09/21/kennedy-gets-secret-service-protection/a735a76e-875f-45bf-8a70-21cf6af71ca3/

Billy_T wrote:

In short, not only did he lie about his premise, he didn’t have the courage to go beyond dog whistles to his nutjob audience and actually state his case in full.

No, HRC doesn’t want to end the second amendment, even though there is absolutely no reason for its existence. No, she doesn’t want to get rid of it, even though it serves no purpose, is obscenely barbaric and anachronistic in intention and effect.

And, no, Trump isn’t fooling anyone with his cowardly hedging.

Trump passed the point of disqualification months and months ago. Hell, just his birther antics and his appearance on Alex Jones should have been enough. But this latest really should be a bridge too far, especially following closely upon his call for espionage against his opponent.

The call for assassinations, espionage, “the vote will be rigged” — Trump obviously wants to be installed as Il Duce. He doesn’t want to actually go through the process of being elected. As bad as HRC is, she at least is willing to do that.

Didn’t Hildabeast bring up assassination in her 2008 campaign? Why yes she did!