Another day of the GOP convention, another night of terror

Yawn.

fact checking the speakers at yesterday’s convention, not that anyone expects people at a convention to actually be truthful or anything…
GOP speakers day 2 fact check

Billy_T wrote:

bnw wrote:

Yawn.

Bnw, you really, really need to get some sleep, as mentioned. This is the fourth time that you couldn’t muster any kind of cogent response to one of my posts, because you’re just too damn sleepy.

It may be time for something stronger than Melatonin. Perhaps Ambien. But, remember, some people have been known to sleep walk after they take those pills. So make sure you hide your car keys.

No more like you should stop posting on Ground Hog day since your posts are all the same. Hence the well deserved ‘Yawn’.

WV-Mom report. wv-mom said to me that she has
watched almost all of the Convention of Reps,
and this is her takeaway:

Donald Trumps children are lovely.
Adorable. They ‘hit a home-run’ at the convention.

Donald Trumps super-model wife speaks five languages
and she ‘hit a home-run’ at the convention.

Hillary’s favorite author wrote a book, and the Author
dedicated the book to LUCIFER.

Donald Trump is a good christian and MSNBC and CNN are vile, liberal,
friends of Hillary.

If Hillary becomes President of the United States of America,
satan will celebrate and the Lord will abandon this country.

Ok, this has been the wv-mom report on the Convention of Reps.

sigh
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Two Times Mike Pence Brushed Off Science

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/two-times-mike-pence-brushed-off-science/

As my boss Nate Silver wrote Thursday, most people in the U.S. don’t know much about Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, Donald Trump’s vice-presidential pick. That’s likely not the case among public health professionals, given Pence’s rather notorious recent history with public health policy.

Take, for example, an ongoing outbreak of HIV in southern Indiana. From December 2014 to May of this year, 191 cases of HIV, nearly all linked to the injection of the painkiller Opana, were found in Scott County, a rural area near the Kentucky border. Before the outbreak, there had been numerous deaths and known risks from the increase in injection drug use in the area for several years. Pence had long been a vocal opponent of needle exchange programs, which allow drug users to trade in used syringes for sterile ones in order to stop the spread of diseases, despite evidence that they work. Such programs were banned in the state when the outbreak started.

At the end of March last year, four months after the outbreak began, Pence declared a public health emergency, allowing needle exchanges to be opened in Scott County. Scott County Health Officer Dr. R. Kevin Rogers described the program as having “a tremendously positive and dramatic impact” and recently made a successful request to have the program extended until May 2017. At least four other counties have been allowed to start programs as well. Still, Pence hasn’t moved to lift the state ban on funding for needle exchanges and has made it clear in the past that he would veto any bill that tried to lift the ban statewide.

Pence has also shown a deep misunderstanding of basic public health principles in the past. In 2001, he wrote an op-ed declaring that “smoking doesn’t kill.” The evidence? “Two out of three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness.” Diseases are rarely the product of one thing. With lung cancer, for example, there’s a strong genetic component. Some people who don’t smoke will get lung cancer.1 Many people who do smoke will not. Relative risk, which measures the strength of the relationship between an exposure and a health outcome (smoking and lung cancer in this instance), is a funny thing; it can’t be used to measure the risk for an individual, only a group. And at that macro level, the risk of smoking is quite clear, as this oft-cited American Cancer Society chart shows.

Lung cancer isn’t even the most common negative health outcome from smoking. That distinction goes to vascular diseases that cause heart disease and/or stroke, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

Pence’s home state of Indiana should be particularly concerned about tobacco: 23 percent of adults are smokers, the sixth-highest statewide rate in the United States. Fifteen percent of pregnant women smoke, nearly double the national average, and the state spent $2.93 billion in 2014 on health costs caused by cigarette smoking — more per capita than 31 other states, according to the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. Still, Indiana has a cigarette tax of just 99 cents,2 lower than 35 other states, despite a wealth of evidence showing that increasing taxes on tobacco reduces smoking rates.

When a tobacco tax hike was proposed this year in Indiana, Pence made it clear that he was not in favor. The tax increase was subsequently taken out of the bill.

All that said, Pence’s track record on public health likely won’t have an effect on the election. Only 37 percent of registered voters said that health care was extremely important to determining who they would vote for this election season, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation poll released Friday.

zn wrote:

Ronald Schmidt

The damage done to the country by a Trump presidency has already started. His campaign exhorted Americans to racial violence, rabid misogyny, and self-pitying xenophobia; his speech last night told his supporters that they are right to have embraced those messages because their lives and their nation are in danger … and then he offered a solution. Not the solution of American ideals, or of solidarity with each other, or even of faith (which are the solutions offered by the campaign speeches throughout our history that we still remember). The solution he offered was himself, that he will be our voice, that he will “fix it.” This radical, militant, fascism has already done damage to the nation and to the lives of real people; the general campaign will make it worse. The cost of his election would be far greater. “Trump is telling his followers their racist gut instincts are right — and are the only thing that can save them. Donald Trump went to great lengths tonight to tie together ‘mass immigration, mass lawlessness,” and crime. He said this to a supporter base that often, cognitively, conflates ‘illegal immigrants’ with ‘immigrants,’ and ‘immigrants’ with ‘Latinos.’ He said this to supporters who sometimes feel they “just know” when someone else waiting in line at the employment office is ‘illegal.’ He told them they were right to feel overwhelmed and they were right to be afraid, and that if they weren’t careful they could be killed. By the same token, he told his audience of mostly white Americans — mainly living in racially segregated, low-crime suburban neighborhoods — that they should be extremely worried about being victimized by crime. The danger posed by Trump supporters going about their business armed with weaponized white fear is more Renisha McBrides and more Tamir Rices. It has a cost in nonwhite bodies and lives.” http://www.vox.com/2016/7/22/12254212/trump-rnc-speech-racist?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

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Sigh. Yes, crooked-Donald is Frankenstein. And crooked-Hillary is Dracula.

And American doesnt have to vote for either one.

But Americans dont want to “waste their votes” so
they will vote for a monster.

No-one is twisting their voting-arms.

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

But Americans dont want to “waste their votes” so
they will vote for a monster.

No-one is twisting their voting-arms.

I will vote for Hillary because Trump is significantly worse and by a wide margin.

I will then join the “third party alternative” and/or “reform the dems” thing the day after the election.

That’s just me listing my vote. Not arguing. If I can’t talk anyone else into it, so be it.

If I catch flak for it here, so be that too.

Hildabeast is a crook so Trump is much better. I will vote for Trump.

Billy_T wrote:

bnw wrote:

zn wrote:

wv wrote:

But Americans dont want to “waste their votes” so
they will vote for a monster.

No-one is twisting their voting-arms.

I will vote for Hillary because Trump is significantly worse and by a wide margin.

I will then join the “third party alternative” and/or “reform the dems” thing the day after the election.

That’s just me listing my vote. Not arguing. If I can’t talk anyone else into it, so be it.

If I catch flak for it here, so be that too.

Hildabeast is a crook so Trump is much better. I will vote for Trump.

If being a “crook” is a deal-breaker for you, bnw, then you shouldn’t be voting for Trump. He made tens of millions ripping off students at Trump University, tens of millions ripping off business partners in his many bankruptcies, tens of millions from taxpayers playing the debt game. He’s currently fighting thousands of lawsuits for his crooked business practices. And if elected, he’ll pocket additional tens of millions, personally, from slashing the top tax rate and ending the estate tax. The latter, btw, impacts just 0.2% of the country. The richest 0.2%. More than 99.8% of the country won’t see any “tax relief” from the end of the estate tax, but government programs will take a hit so the rich can get richer.

Oh, and Mr “fair trade” outsources labor for his manufacturing companies. And, he’s a serial liar.

I understand not wanting to vote for Clinton. I won’t either. But voting for Trump makes zero sense, given your criteria.

Hildabeast is a crook who has profited from influence peddling throughout her so called public service. I will vote for Trump.