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  • December 13, 2016 at 11:39 am #60939
    PA Ram
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    You know–I think of Andy Reid a lot when I think of Jeff Fisher.

    Andy Reid is who we needed Fisher to be. He wasn’t.

    Consider the Chiefs record before Andy Reid:

    2007: 4-12

    2008: 2-14

    2009: 4-12

    2010: 10-6

    2011: 7-9

    2012: 2-14

    Total: 29-67

    AFTER Andy Reid:

    2013: 11-5

    2014: 9-7

    2015: 11-5

    2016: 10-3

    Total: 41-20

    Rams BEFORE Fisher:

    2006: 8-8

    2007: 3-13

    2008: 2-14

    2009: 1-15

    2010: 7-9

    2011: 2-14

    Total: 23-73

    AFTER Fisher:

    2012: 7-8-1

    2013: 7-9

    2014: 6-10

    2015: 7-9

    2016: 4-9

    Total: 31-45

    While the BEFORE records are close–the AFTER ones are not.

    And keep in mind–Reid had Matt Cassell as his QB when he got there and traded for Alex Smith.

    While Smith is not Tom Brady–he has been steady and they’ve won with him. It was a good decision.

    Andy Reid has been around for a long time and he has earned it. No–he didn’t WIN a Superbowl but like Fisher, he made it to one.

    But HE is who I wish Fisher could have been.

    Andy Reid has yet to have a losing season with the Chiefs. Fisher never had a winning one with the Rams.

    So that’s why I say that it was fair to judge his performance after five years. And yes–why it was fair to fire him.

    I get that there will always be the context argument. But I think this is as fair a comparison as you will find. One guy made it. One did not.

    I hope that the next choice by the Rams is the right choice.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    December 13, 2016 at 12:21 pm #60944
    JackPMiller
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    Truthfully, coaches would take Sam Bradford over Matt Cassell.

    December 13, 2016 at 1:06 pm #60947
    Avatar photonittany ram
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    Andy Reid? Way to dream big there, Pa.

    I wish Jeff Fisher had been more like Chuck Knoll. You know, with his 4 Super Bowl victories in 6 years…

    December 13, 2016 at 7:10 pm #60967
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    PA Ram wrote:

    So that’s why I say that it was fair to judge his performance after five years. And yes–why it was fair to fire him.

    yeah. i agree with that. obviously each situation is different, but reid took a miserable team and turned them around.

    but it’s not all on fisher just as reid doesn’t deserve all credit for the turnaround.

    the rams need to hire a real football guy. NOT demoff. and let him find the next head coach.

    let demoff handle the cap, and that’s it. he should not be involved in the hiring of a head coach. if he has ANY sense, he’ll realize this. hire a football executive who knows the game and let him make the football decisions.

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    December 13, 2016 at 7:28 pm #60969
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    nittany ram wrote:

    Andy Reid? Way to dream big there, Pa.

    I wish Jeff Fisher had been more like Chuck Knoll. You know, with his 4 Super Bowl victories in 6 years…

    That is the kind of spelling I expect from spellingly deficient science types who spell stuff like H2OS04.

    By the way, the Trojans are going to kick your sorry ass all the way back to Happy Valley. Cappy.

    December 13, 2016 at 7:37 pm #60970
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    Good post, Pa-ram. Yeah, i expected Fisher to be an Andy Reid, or a Shottenheimer. Solid, playoff-caliber-coach.

    I’m not sure Fisher will ever be a head coach again. I kinda doubt
    any owner hires him again.

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    December 13, 2016 at 8:20 pm #60972
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    Zooey wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:

    Andy Reid? Way to dream big there, Pa.

    I wish Jeff Fisher had been more like Chuck Knoll. You know, with his 4 Super Bowl victories in 6 years…

    That is the kind of spelling I expect from spellingly deficient science types who spell stuff like H2OS04.

    By the way, the Trojans are going to kick your sorry ass all the way back to Happy Valley. Cappy.

    Knoll is the original spelling. I spelled it that way to honor his Gaelic ancestry of which the late coach was so proud.

    USC will suffer the fate that eventually befalls all Trojans. They’ll be stretched, pulled, abused, tossed aside and quite possibly flushed away.

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