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January 15, 2023 at 8:42 am #142610Billy_TParticipant
We leftists often throw up our hands at the duopoly, condemn them both outright, and all too often without serious analysis of differences. I think it’s a huge mistake on our part, both strategically, and as a matter of sheer accuracy, to dismiss them as “just the same.” They aren’t. Which means they shouldn’t be judged and criticized the same. And while the differences aren’t nearly as great as they should or could be, they do exist, and in existential terms.
A recent batch of studies shows that within the United States, people tend to live longer, healthier, safer lives in Blue states than in Red, and the more progressive the better. This truth pretty much covers the world, and is obviously logical. European public/social policies, for instance, tend to produce healthier, safer, longer-lived societies than ours . . . and the difference is far more stark if the comparison is just between Europe and Red States. Logic dictates that Europe would have even better results if it moved further to the left. It’s rather obvious to me that if they took what already works, amped it up, increased the inclusion rate to, well, 100% of the population, radically improved results will follow.
We’re so far behind the Social Democratic parts of Europe, and their superior results are less than they could be, due to conservative and centrist backlash there.
Will provide some links in the next coupla posts to try to avoid the filter.
January 15, 2023 at 8:44 am #142611Billy_TParticipantExcerpt: (Site has graphs and further links, etc.)
People in Republican Counties Have Higher Death Rates Than Those in Democratic Counties
A growing mortality gap between Republican and Democratic areas may largely stem from policy choices
By Lydia Denworth on July 18, 2022
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During the COVID-19 pandemic, the link between politics and health became glaringly obvious. Democrat-leaning “blue” states were more likely to enact mask requirements and vaccine and social distancing mandates. Republican-leaning “red” states were much more resistant to health measures. The consequences of those differences emerged by the end of 2020, when rates of hospitalization and death from COVID rose in conservative counties and dropped in liberal ones. That divergence continued through 2021, when vaccines became widely available. And although the highly transmissible Omicron variant narrowed the gap in infection rates, hospitalization and death rates, which are dramatically reduced by vaccines, remain higher in Republican-leaning parts of the country.
But COVID is only the latest chapter in the story of politics and health. “COVID has really magnified what had already been brewing in American society, which was that, based on where you lived, your risk of death was much different,” says Haider J. Warraich, a physician and researcher at the VA Boston Healthcare System and Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston.
In a study published in June in The BMJ, Warraich and his colleagues showed that over the two decades prior to the pandemic, there was a growing gap in mortality rates for residents of Republican and Democratic counties across the U.S. In 2001, the study’s starting point, the risk of death among red and blue counties (as defined by the results of presidential elections) was similar. Overall, the U.S. mortality rate has decreased in the nearly two decades since then (albeit not as much as in most other high-income countries). But the improvement for those living in Republican counties by 2019 was half that of those in Democratic counties—11 percent lower versus 22 percent lower.
January 15, 2023 at 8:53 am #142612Billy_TParticipantAmericans die younger in states with conservative policies: study
Americans die younger in states with conservative policies: study
BY BRAD DRESS – 10/26/22 10:02 PM ETExcerpt:
Americans die younger in states with more conservative policies, while states with more liberal policies are associated with lower mortality rates, according to a new study published Wednesday in the scientific journal PLOS One.
Researchers analyzed mortality rates for all causes of death in all 50 states from 1999 to 2019 among adults aged 25 to 64. They compared that to state data on policy measures such as gun safety, labor, marijuana policy, economic taxes and tobacco taxes.
According to their simulation, if all states had switched to fully liberal policies, then 171,030 lives would have been saved in 2019.
If all states had switched to fully conservative policies, that could have cost an additional 217,635 lives, according to the study.
Researchers wrote the data is “striking” because modern U.S. society is becoming hyperpolarized and involves “growing policy divergence across states.”
“These tectonic political and policy shifts may have had profound impacts on health and wellbeing,” the authors noted.
Currently, Republicans control 46 percent of states in the U.S., while Democrats control 29 percent, with 12 states divided between legislative and executive control.
The U.S. already rates among the highest mortality rates compared to other developed countries.
January 15, 2023 at 9:14 am #142613Billy_TParticipantDuckduckgo searches provide a ton of similar articles/studies.
Of course, I think it’s also self-evident that if we replaced capitalism with true economic democracy, the leap in living standards would dwarf even the best results from Europe at the moment. This is also the only way to save the planet for future generations and most current life forms.
But while we’re in the midst of Late Capitalism’s final thrashings, it’s also self-evident that conservative (and further right) policies are making a bad situation markedly worse, and people are dying as a result. That, too, is beyond logical to me. The ascendant wing of political conservatism in America and much of the world is a new iteration of minarchism, with a toxic dose of fascism and Ayn Rand to boot. All with the blessing of too much of the billionaire class. In an increasingly interconnected and interdependent world, any political movement that preaches a radical reduction in public/social policy and the social safety net is an existential danger for humankind, and this movement is far more radically opposed to environmentalism than even its anti-green conservative forebears.
To make a long story short, I think leftists should put our intellectual and activist passion into the (metaphorical/rhetorical/public policy) war against the right, while pushing the center leftward. I think it’s a huge mistake to focus most of our energy on attacking the Dems, for instance, as seems to be the case on outlets like Twitter. By all means, hold their feet to the fire too. But common sense dictates that we work hardest against what threatens us most, and most immediately. That’s the right. That’s conservatism, writ large and small.
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