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    Amazon’s All or Nothing makes bad football look good with Rams, thanks to NFL Films

    Watching the Rams’ disaster of a season makes for great entertainment.

    By Adam Patrick

    link: http://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/amazon-all-nothing-rams-bad-football-good-nfl-films.html

    During the first season of Amazon’s original sports documentary series All or Nothing, viewers got to witness the 2015 NFL season through the eyes of the 13-3 Arizona Cardinals. That team ended its season just one game short of an appearance in Super Bowl 50.

    For the second season of All or Nothing, the focus of the show switched to a totally different circumstance. The NFL Films crew was forced to endure the excruciating, emotionally taxing task of documenting the 2016 season of the 4-12 Los Angeles Rams.

    Despite the Rams’ year of football not being anywhere close to a success, All or Nothing still provides viewers with many memorable moments beginning with the team’s move to Los Angeles (which was also documented on HBO’s Hard Knocks). The series then covers the drafting of quarterback Jared Goff to the team, moves on to starting the season 3-1, and finally ends with Rams head coach Jeff Fisher informing his players that he has been fired.

    As usual, NFL Films does a great job in highlighting specific details about a team’s players and coaching staff that are mostly unknown to the common football fan. These aspects of the show are really what holds it together since watching a team lose 12 out of 16 games is not what one would call “entertaining.”

    If not for this season of All or Nothing, no one would know how Case Keenum’s consistent avoidance of blurting out curse words bears a keen resemblance to one Ned Flanders. Even at his most frustrating points in the regular season (and boy, were there a lot of them), the worst word or phrase that is muttered out of Keenum’s mouth is “shoot” or the occasional “son of a biscuit.”

    Rams defensive end William Hayes made himself a little more notable to fans this year after his comments during the most recent season of Hard Knocks in which he proclaimed his belief in mermaids and his disbelief in dinosaurs. In All or Nothing, Hayes continued to share his mind-boggling thoughts with the world. For example, in one episode, he stated how it was a stupid rule that NFL teams had to be truthful about their injury reports each week.

    A majority of this year’s show was based around the battle for the starting quarterback job between Keenum and Goff. It ended up not being so much of a battle as it was Keenum just not getting the job done. After Fisher finally made the decision during the middle of the season to start Goff, viewers of All or Nothing are given exclusive access to Keenum’s reaction. The quarterback obviously expressed his disappointment, but also acted with great class when it came helping the young rookie adjust to his new role.

    If there was a secondary storyline for this season of All or Nothing, it would have to be the downfall of Fisher as the Rams’ head coach.

    During the beginning of the year, he had the Rams playing well and sitting at 3-1 after their first four games. But after the team lost eight of their next nine matchups, the Los Angeles front office decided a change needed to be made and fired Fisher with three weeks left in the regular season. (And this was after the team had given Fisher a three-year contract extension.)

    This was a situation that had never really ever been filmed or revealed to the media before this season of All or Nothing. Viewers get to see exactly how Fisher handles telling the news to his coaches and then to his players.

    The reactions from the Rams’ players and coaches ranged from angry to sad to disappointing. Some shed tears while others just put their hands over their faces.

    So the team’s first season in Los Angeles was obviously not a success, but there was still a story to be told, even if it was painful to follow. NFL Films, who can make any team’s season look good, still took that story and turned it into a masterpiece with this year’s season of All or Nothing.

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    i’ll probably end up watching it, but if it’s anything like hard knocks i’m sure it’ll be total garbage.

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    GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

    Attended screening of All or Nothing LA Rams

    They screened the 1st episode of this new series about the 2016 Rams last night at the Los Angeles Athletic Club. It was about 30 minutes and frankly the language is pretty salty. They don’t bleep anything out. Its very well done as it is NFL Films.

    For me personally it was interesting because there are some appearances by Rams fans I know from Bring Back The Los Angeles Rams. That made it fun.
    However rehashing a losing season is not my cup of tea.

    I would recommend you getting Amazon Prime and watching the series though it looks very good.

    What about the Athletic Club? The place looks like your classical Old Money Hangout. Plush to the max in a 1930s way. Beautiful like a mansion that a Rockefeller would have owned. Every floor is plush. The stair cases are plush and carpeted. Wood on all the walls. Mirrors all over the place. Huge conference rooms, huge banquet rooms, Outstanding looking bars that a President would drink in.

    The free beer was flowing. The free horderves was flowing. Large schrimp, broiled chicken on a stick, small shredded beef sandwhiches, small enough to fit two in your hand. And they had a cash bar for the hard stuff.

    Wall to wall Rams fans wearing their jerseys.

    . This was for fun, pure and simple. I received and invite from ESPN LA and decided why the hell not? It might be a blast and it was.

    The whole series is produced by NFL Films and other then coaches and players dropping F-bombs all over the place, if you watched Hard Knocks last summer this is kind of like Hard Knocks on steroids. There is a lot of good in game action stuff to watch. CLOSE UP and personal you see the grimaces on the face of Todd Gurley as he’s getting smacked around by the Seattle Seahawks in the Coliseum. Its great theater but there is no real added insight in my opinion. I may watch the series then again I may not. I have access to Amazon Prime and the series premiers tomorrow June 30th. But like I told friends of mine in attendance Tuesday night. I don’t relish rehashing a losing season.

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    link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/06/29/aaron-donald-mum-on-contract-talks-but-is-quick-to-praise-rams-new-coaches/

    ALL OR NOTHING’ ON AMAZON

    Donald also is one of the stars of the eight-part documentary series “All or Nothing: A Season with the Los Angeles Rams,” which will be available on Amazon Prime Video on Friday.

    The series, in a way, is continuation of the “Hard Knocks” series that covered Rams training camp and aired on HBO last August. The NFL Films crew continued to follow the players, coaches and staff members and received behind-the-scenes access to on- and off-field moments.

    Arguably the most compelling moments of the series involve former Coach Jeff Fisher. The cameras were running on Dec. 12 when Fisher was fired, and much of one episode is dedicated to Fisher breaking that news to his fellow coaches and Rams players.

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    Reality show on Rams season shows players took blame for Jeff Fisher’s firing

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/34122/all-or-nothing-showed-players-cared-for-jeff-fisher-blamed-firing-on-themselves

    LOS ANGELES — One team official compared the streaming of Amazon’s latest “All or Nothing” series to “watching the Titanic sink.”

    The Los Angeles Rams were bad in 2016, their first season back in Southern California, and the last thing they want to do is relive it all. It’s all available for public view now, though. And like a bad car crash, it is painstakingly difficult to look away.

    “All or Nothing: A Season with the Los Angeles Rams” became available for streaming for Amazon Prime consumers on Friday. It is the second installment, following the chronicling of a far more successful 2015 Arizona Cardinals team last summer.

    The series, produced by NFL Films and narrated by Jon Hamm, began with the move from St. Louis to Los Angeles in early 2016 and ended with the hiring of Sean McVay in early 2017. It included everything in between — the drafting of Jared Goff, the infamous “7-9 bulls—” speech, the demoralizing Monday Night Football loss, the 3-1 start, the sudden spiral, the sluggish offense and, most prominently, the Jeff Fisher firing.

    Throughout, “All or Nothing” portrays a team that stuck together and often struggled with what became a nomadic 2016 calendar year. It gives one a sense for the insane hours the assistants put in and how drastically their lives change when a head coach is let go. It showed how much the players appreciated Fisher and how responsible they felt when he was dismissed.

    Below are some of the new developments from the eight-episode series, which aired nearly a year after HBO followed the Rams through training camp with “Hard Knocks.”

    Fisher’s apex: The Rams had easy motivation heading into their Week 4 game. It was against the Cardinals. “We don’t like these guys,” Fisher told his coaches in the week leading up to it. “Do not like these guys.” His staff feasted on that for motivation. In a meeting with his position group, defensive backs coach Dennard Wilson played a soundbite of Cardinals coach Bruce Arians from his postgame news conference after a win over the Rams in 2015, in which he said, “There’s an 11-3 team and a team that’s always 8-8. You figure it out.”

    Said Wilson: “This m—–f—– does not respect you.”

    The Rams implemented a quick-snap cadence called “cheetah,” which caught the Cardinals off guard and set the tone in their victory. They were 3-1 and coming off back-to-back road wins, in a position few would’ve foreseen. But Fisher sensed looming danger because his team was having a hard time stopping the run and getting it going on the ground.

    “We’re frustrated right now — not at 3-1, but just frustrated because we have to do better,” Fisher told his coaches. “We stay doing what we’re doing. We’re not going to win another f—ing game.”

    He had no idea he’d come so close to being right.

    Goff’s chance: The show dispelled any thought Rams owner Stan Kroenke, or anybody else, pushed Fisher to start Goff in Week 11 against the Dolphins. Before the Week 10 game on the road against the Jets, Fisher broke the news to Kroenke himself. “Either way today, I’m going to go with the rook next week at home,” Fisher told him. Case Keenum was making his final start at quarterback that day and didn’t even know it.

    In the next team meeting, after the announcement had been made, Fisher reminded everyone Keenum was voted a captain before the start of the season.

    “You’re still a captain,” Fisher said to Keenum. “I want to thank you for your energy, your leadership, your commitment, your passion, your desire — everything you’ve done to this point.”

    Downward spiral: As the weeks went on and the losses mounted, backup running back Benny Cunningham huddled the team together in the middle of the practice field.

    “This is how I feed my family,” Cunningham told the rest of the team. “If we lose the rest of these games, guess what: I’m not going to have a job. You’re not going to have a job. You’re not going to have a f—ing job. So pick this s— up.”

    The Rams never did, of course. They finished the season with seven straight losses. After a 3-1 start, they dropped 11 of 12. During one four-game stretch, they lost by a combined 93 points. Their most demoralizing loss came at home against the Falcons, who beat them 42-12 in Week 14, four days before the Rams had to travel to Seattle to play a Thursday night game. After the game, Fisher told the team, “If you care about each other, if you care about yourselves, if you care about me, you gotta suck it up.”

    Veteran defensive end William Hayes then addressed the team.

    “He put us before he put himself, and this is how we’re f—ing repaying him, man,” Hayes said. “Y’all don’t realize how f—ing good we have it, and then a new m—–f—– comes in, and he wants not one of you m—–f—–s around here.”

    The firing: “All or Nothing” aired two Fisher meetings in the wake of his firing on Dec. 12: with the coaches and with the players.

    “OK, you’re going to have some challenges this weekend with respect to injuries,” Fisher begins to tell the coaches. “Reggie [Scott, the head athletic trainer] will keep you abreast. Unfortunately I won’t be here this weekend. I was just fired.”

    That’s it. Fisher said he would meet with the players at 11:30 and that they shouldn’t be told anything until then. The room was stunned and silent. Assistant coach Mike Singletary stood up, looked Fisher in the eyes, shook his hand firmly and said, “Thank you.” Later, the coaches all came up individually to hug him.

    “I’m going to do my best to hold it together and thank the team,” Fisher said. “I appreciate everything you guys have done for this football team and for me and the loyalty that you’ve shown. It’s a freaking shock. Sorry if I let you guys down. You guys didn’t let me down. You busted your ass every single day for me.”

    Below is the speech Fisher gave to the players …

    “We’ve had some great team meetings over the years, man. Some great ones. This is one that you’re probably going to remember because I’m no longer your head coach. I just wanted to say that I love you guys. … I’m going to walk out of here with my head up high, and I want you guys to do me a favor: finish strong. And this becomes the end of my legacy here. I’m sorry if I let anybody down. I don’t think I did, nor did the coaches. But this business is based on wins and losses. I’ll tell you this: You have to cherish it every day. Every single day, you have to cherish it. Opportunity to play in this league, and be part of the National Football League, nothing better. Nothing better. Every single day, cherish it. Love your families, love each other. I love you guys. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. But I’ll be fine. I’m going fishing.”

    Rams COO Kevin Demoff then addressed the team. He said the team had great players, great coaches and it merely came down to the wins not being there often enough. He didn’t want them to carry any guilt, but they did. All-Pro punter Johnny Hekker spoke to the group while in tears and said they all ruined an opportunity with Fisher. Hayes, who spent eight of his seasons playing under Fisher on two teams, said: “That’s our f—ing fault, man. Y’all just lost the greatest thing next to this team. Y’all ain’t never going to play in front of a head coach like that.”

    Carrying on after Fisher: Todd Gurley, his head down, was crying in the meeting when Fisher announced he had been fired. The Rams had three games left in their season, including a quick turnaround in Seattle, and the message to the players was to finish strong for their former head coach and their personal pride.

    During one of the practices, offensive coordinator Rob Boras told Goff: “No matter who’s coaching you, these guys are gonna do whatever you tell them. It’s your team. I don’t care who the head coach is. I don’t care who the coordinator/position coach is. It’s your team. They’re gonna do what you tell them. So set the standard now.”

    “I know,” Goff told him. “I’ve been thinking about it for weeks.”

    Fisher, with a puppy in his arms, was standing in front of the gate at the team facility when the buses left for the airport a couple of days after his firing, saluting his former team. The Rams never won again. John Fassel, the special-teams coordinator who served as the interim coach, addressed the team after the final game, a 44-6 loss to the Cardinals. His voice cracked.

    “For me, the past three weeks and the opportunity to be here in front of all you guys is an opportunity that I’ll never forget and an opportunity that I’ll never take for granted,” Fassel said. “And it just goes to show that at all times, you gotta be ready to jump in and do something that maybe you weren’t expected to do. And how you conduct yourself at all times matters. … I’m proud to be a Ram, men. I’m proud to be a Ram.”

    McVay and Snead: At one point in the draft room, McVay turned to general manager Les Snead and said, “If the minicamp is any indicator, we hit on our free agents.” The series then showed Snead’s thought process for his eventual trade with the Bills, in which he moved down from 37th to 44th in order to attain an additional third-round pick. “You don’t want to pick early second [round] often,” Snead told McVay. “But when you’re picking early second, never fall in love with a player. You’ll always get an extra third[-round pick].”

    McVay, barely three months into the job, later went around the room, reassuring Demoff about what they did in the second and third rounds and then addressing Kroenke. “This will be good,” he told him.

    Fisher, in the aftermath: In the final episode, “All or Nothing” caught up with Boras, Hayes, Keenum, tight end Lance Kendricks and defensive coordinator Gregg Williams in their new cities. The series ends with Fisher, alongside his wife and two of his dogs, at his home a half-hour outside Nashville. He will be a grandfather in September, and because he won’t work in the NFL this season, he’ll get to be there when the baby is born.

    “I gave it my best shot, had fun,” Fisher said. “Miss the players. That’s what I miss most right now is the players. But they’re staying in touch. I want to get back on the sidelines. Not going to happen this year, obviously, but we’ll just see what happens. In the interim, this is our life.”

    #70631
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    ya know. i take it all back. as much as i hated hard knocks i liked all or nothing. it very much was like watching a mega blockbuster disaster film.

    it was a good watch although yes. very painful at times.

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    I signed up for a free month of Amazon Prime and watched it.

    It really is well done.

    But, you have to be willing to re-live 2016.

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    Rams React to Jeff Fisher’s Firing | All or Nothing: A Season with the Los Angeles Rams

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaN3qj5FGgQ

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    Rams React to Jeff Fisher’s Firing | All or Nothing: A Season with the Los Angeles Rams

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaN3qj5FGgQ

    the part you don’t see is hayes ripping into his teammates. hekker choking back tears. and gurley with his head buried and gently weeping.

    they did a good job of documenting the team slowly disintegrating over the course of the season culminating in the firing of jeff fisher and the aftermath that took place.

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    they did a good job of documenting the team slowly disintegrating over the course of the season culminating in the firing of jeff fisher and the aftermath that took place.

    Yes, and, quite rejuevenating it was too to watch that again.

    But seriously yeah it is well done.

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    Interview With Keith Cossrow, All Or Nothing Showrunner
    We got to speak with the man behind the show detailing the 2016 Los Angeles Rams

    https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2017/6/30/15897496/interview-keith-cossrow-all-or-nothing-showrunner-los-angeles-rams

    ll or Nothing Season 2

    I had a chance to speak with Keith Cossrow, Coordinating Producer and showrunner for All or Nothing, NFL Films’ show about a year in the life of an NFL Franchise.

    Last night, the second season of the show launched on Amazon Prime Video chronicling the Los Angeles Rams 2016 season.

    I talked to Cossrow about the show, his role and how the series will move beyond Season 2.

    How long have you been with NFL Films? Were you with the show from the conceptual phase prior to Season 1, and how did you come to be a part of this?

    Yeah, I’ve been in charge of it from the get go, Season 1. I’ve been the showrunner for both seasons. I’ve been with NFL Films for 20 years since 1997, 20 seasons as we like to say.

    So how did the idea of the show, prior to the Rams, how did that develop?

    Since Hard Knocks was born, it was viewed as the Holy Grail. “When are you guys gonna do a Hard Knocks on the regular season?”

    We always thought it was impossible, because the two things teams talk about most during the regular season are injuries and strategy. You just can’t show that stuff in real-time the way you do Hard Knocks where it’s the preseason with a different set of storylines that can be shared much easier.

    So we thought, it’s never going to happen. And even if it does, it’s not going to be very good, because we won’t be able to show anything.

    And then this [Arizona] Cardinals thing developed last year, and we started to figure out that maybe we could shoot the whole thing, not tell anybody because we didn’t know how it was gonna turn out, keep it a secret, put the whole thing together and then air the whole thing after the season was over betting that the content would be compelling enough and unique enough and the access would be extraordinary enough that people would be interested in watching it.

    We found a partner in Amazon who aligned with that point of view and thought it would fit their audience and what they were looking to do with sports and original programming in the way they like to do on-demand streaming and bingeable content. We had never done a binge show before, so it was really exciting to get into this format with Amazon.

    The rest is history.

    We did the Cardinals season. It went spectacularly well. Amazon had great results, and it won the Emmy for Serialized Sports Documentary, and we were on to Season 2.

    How did that transition work, going from the Cardinals to selecting the Rams? How did that happen?

    Well, it’s always a challenge to pick a team whether it’s Hard Knocks or this.

    Were you guys under the same constraints as Hard Knocks with the rules like no playoffs, no new head coach?

    No, there are no rules for this. It’s so new…

    The challenge last year was that nobody had seen the show when we were asking them if they want to do it. We said, “Well, we did this thing with the Cardinals, and it’s coming out soon.” You’re trying to get a team to agree to do it in the spring before they break up for the summer.

    And they’re all like, “Are you crazy? The Cardinals didn’t do that.” And we’re, “But they did! We swear! It’s going to drop on July 1st, and it’s going to be really cool!” And teams were like, “Well, call us next year. If it goes well with the Cardinals, maybe we’ll think about it.”

    But one thing that was a big priority for the league last year was to document the Rams move to Los Angeles. We thought that their return home to Southern California was an historic story as the first relocation in a generation. More than that, it was the Rams coming back to LA. And it was something we all knew we needed to document. So we started documenting it from the time the move was announced.

    Obviously, Hard Knocks happened. Hard Knocks, from a production standpoint and a relationship standpoint, went really well with [Head] Coach [Jeff] Fisher and with the team. They were very comfortable with our crew and trusted us. So we all agreed it would be an interesting proposition to stick around.

    The crew, the footprint is much smaller for All or Nothing. We managed to get through this entire second season without anyone knowing what we were doing. That’s in large part because of how small the crew is. It’s by design. We don’t want people talking about this show during the season if we can avoid it.

    The Rams were terrific to work with from the top down. [COO] Kevin Demoff, [General Manager] Les Snead, Jeff Fisher and his staff. The players were great.

    And you know, the season started so well, and we thought, “Holy moly. We might’ve caught lightning in a bottle for the second time.”

    And then it took a turn, and things changed.

    You said you like to pick a team in the spring. Have you picked one for Season 3?

    Not yet. We’re working on it, talking to a few teams. Hopefully, we’ll have one lined up pretty soon. When we do, we’ll probably keep it quiet for a while.

    But it’s a long process and a serious decision for a team to make. We have to respect that process and go through it and have a lot of conversations with a lot of teams to get there.

    You mentioned the 3-1 start. Things looking good. Was there a sense of how things were going to go for the season overall? Did you notice anything different about the Rams compared to the Cardinals from the showrunner’s standpoint?

    No, nor did our directors in the field, Shannon Furman or Pat Harris.

    No, we thought this team had a lot of talent. Obviously, there were questions on the offensive side of the ball, but the defense was so good. And they were playing genuinely good football that first quarter of the season.

    It’s interesting if you go back as you watch the show even through London and even beyond that with the Carolina game, they were losing every one of those games on the last possession. You know, they could have very easily been 5-2 heading into their bye after London.

    We might have very easily been talking about a different season.

    Yeah, the line really often times seems tenuous. I do wonder what makes the difference between a winning and losing team, especially with the Cardinals season on the NFL Network right now. It’s just so hard to perceive the difference between a winning team and a losing team off the field.

    Isn’t that so interesting though? I think that’s one of the real mysteries of the show is how fine that line is in the NFL.

    We start this season out with the notion that what you’re about to see happens to 7 or 8 teams every year. And it’s not that these teams don’t have good players. It’s not that their coaches aren’t working their asses off every second of the day, sleeping in the office. It’s not that they’re not brilliant football coaches. They’re the very best in the world at this.

    Twenty teams don’t make the playoffs! That is by definition a failure in this league where the expectation is to win every year. Thirty-one teams aren’t going to reach the ultimate goal. Twenty aren’t going to make the playoffs, and about a quarter of them are going to fire their entire coaching staff. Every single year.

    And when you stop to consider that, you start to realize how much is at stake for these guys every single day when they come to work. Because if things don’t go well, lives are going to be upended. Families are going to have to relocate. Careers are going to end. It’s a totally different world when you begin to understand it from that perspective.

    That’s why the title of the series is All or Nothing.

    Yeah, I appreciated the framing with Fisher’s firing up front to start the entire season almost like Sunset Boulevard where we know what’s going to happen but it’s the process that’s most interesting.

    I think people are going to walk into this wondering, “Are we going to see what happens really with Jeff Fisher and the coaching staff?” I think there’s that element of the elephant in the room, so I think it was important to give the audience a glimpse of that right out of the gate.

    But you know, to go back to your original question about noticing anything different, the answer really is, “No.”

    You probably experienced it binge-watching it, there’s not a moment where it’s like, “Oh man, it’s over.” They’re 3-1, and then they lose a close game, and then they lose another close game. It’s not like they did anything different. One different play each of those games and you’re 5-2 or 6-1.

    That’s the NFL. It’s that close.

    Instead, you’re 3-4. Your offense is really struggling. You’ve got a fan base that wants to see their rookie quarterback. And all of the sudden, things start changing. A couple more losses on top of that, and now you’re starting to get desperate.

    It’s not like you feel like you’re watching a train wreck. It’s all unfolding in real time almost in slow motion as a viewer.

    Yeah, it’s not like a train wreck. It’s more like a slow train derailment.

    How much stuff did you guys have to leave on the cutting room floor either by your decision or by request from the team?

    Not that much. Being able to air it six months after the season gives us an opportunity to air so much more of what happens.

    I think it’s more a balance of trying to figure out what is going to make the most compelling story for an audience. If you go too heavy on the strategy and the Xs and Os, you’re going to lose a lot of the audience, the casual fans. If you ignore all of the football, then you’re going to lose you, the avid fan.

    We want to appeal to as broad an audience as possible. We want people who are tuning into Amazon to watch Catastrophe or The Man in the High Castle to want to watch this show. You want to appeal to broad audience that loves premium television or content in that serialized, addictive, character-driven storytelling. That’s what we’re aiming to do here.

    So you’re trying to hit a lot of categories at once. That’s the balance. It’s not really a question of, “We better leave this bit of strategy on the cutting room floor because it didn’t work out.” It’s more just that we don’t want to bore you. We want you to be interested in what happens next.

    It’s a balance. The whole show’s a balance.

    Clearly, a big part of the story was just about the return of the NFL to Los Angeles, something that was both new and familiar at the same time. Did you guys pick up on anything from the city, the market that was distinct, on how LA was reacting to the Rams and not just the other way around?

    I think everybody noticed in that first month that there was genuine excitement. When they filled the Coliseum for that Seattle game and you had the [Red Hot] Chili Peppers playing…

    We made a decision to cover that game as if it was a playoff game. We mic’ed more people than we probably ever have in a regular season game between the players, wives and coaches. So we really covered that game, and I think it shows. We spent about 15 minutes on that game.

    The excitement was genuine. LA was ready for that team and for football, and I think LA was really responding. When you see Case Keenum going in to be on Ryan Seacrest’s show with his wife, they were riding high.

    But it’s LA. There’s a lot to do there. If you’re not winning, they’re going to find something else to do. The imperative in LA is that you have to win pretty consistently. Every sports team in that town knows that. The Rams are no exception, and the Chargers will find that out pretty quickly.

    Once you get there, you have to win.

    What have you guys as a production team learned from these first two seasons that you’re going to do differently moving forward?

    Good question.

    We’re constantly learning. From Year 1 to Year 2, this show got technically much better.

    We had a lot more cameras in the right places that allowed us to capture, say, the day Jeff Fisher was let go. That made a huge difference. We had more cameras on the practice field, more players and coaches mic’ed up during practice.

    We shoot everything from a distance. We try not to be up in everybody’s face, because we don’t want them to be aware of us. We really want to be the proverbial flies on the wall. “You guys have your football season.

    We’ll be here off to the side documenting it.” You can always get better at that, but that’s sort of been our project at NFL Films for 55 years: how to capture these people and their lives as a team doing their thing as well as it can possibly be captured.

    We’re constantly looking for better ways to do things. We’re already investigating better ways to capture sound in those meeting rooms and some other technical advancements that will help us in Season 3. We’re always looking for ways to improve the product.

    One of the areas of improvement this year from Season 1 to Season 2, we didn’t have a camera in the Cardinals’ coaches booth until very late in Season 1. We knew from Hard Knocks that those add a lot, add a dimension. We got a camera in the coaches booth in the playoffs in the Arizona series in the last couple of episodes.

    But here, we got a camera in the coaches booth very early in the season, and we kept it there the entire season, home and on the road. It’s very complex to rig those up in every different stadium the team travels to. But you can see watching it how valuable those shots are.

    Those moments when they lose the game in Detroit and you sit there with [Offensive Coordinator] Rob Boras in that booth after Case Keenum throws an interception at the end on a pass attempt to Lance Kendricks and you sit there with Boras as he actually apologizes to the other coaches in the booth and then just sits there for like a minute…

    you’re right at that moment at a place that it’s impossible to not understand how much these people care, how hard they’ve worked, how much they’ve invested and how much is at stake for all of them in these games.

    You know, we sit there at home. We watch these games. We scream at our TVs. We want to call up the radio station or write on our blogs and in our papers this coach has got to get fired and that coach isn’t up to the job. When you actually see these guys do the job in a moment like that?

    How helpless they are that far from the field? When they call a play and it gets executed and it doesn’t go right? It’s excruciating. And it can’t help but change your perspective of all this a little bit.

    I’m surprised. When you talked about what you learned, I thought you guys would have learned to watch out for falling goalposts with the wind.

    (I was alluding to a moment in episode 6 where heavy winds blew some goalposts down; it’s also the episode in which Fisher got fired.)

    We learned a lot. How about that day with the wind all in the middle of everything…

    You know, show 6. Here’s one thing to note with that episode. We anticipated that some people are going to want to tune in and just watch that episode for obvious reasons. So we did construct that episode in such a way that it can stand on its own.

    Even if you haven’t watched the first five, you can watch that one and get it. Now I think if you take the time to watch the first five and understand how they arrive at that moment when Jeff Fisher is fired, I think you’ll get a lot more out of it.

    On one level, that was something we thought might be pretty important with that episode that it be a standalone episode. We know it’s the moment that people are going to talk about most and remember.

    You know, nobody ever told us to stop rolling the cameras that day. And that’s a testament to our directors Shannon Furman and Pat Harris and the crew that was on site that day that Coach Fisher and the team trusted them to that degree.

    Having the cameras where they are, you’re able to not be in the room with them and just roll. We operate those cameras remotely. And I think what emerged is something very powerful.

    There’s been a lot of these access shows over the years, 24/7, Hard Knocks, other sports that have dipped their toes into the all-access waters. A lot of them have been excellent. But there’s never been a show until All or Nothing that spends every day of an entire season with the team. This season, we shot 1,200 hours with the Rams.

    When you get to that moment and you build up the trust and the relationship, they’re used to it. They trust. They’re going about their business, and we’re able to capture something none of those shows have ever captured. I don’t think any show has ever captured a coach being fired in the middle of the season.

    And it’s not just the moment that Jeff Fisher gets fired that’s important. It’s the fallout. It’s what happens after he leaves the room, and you’re left in this silence with this group of people who now have to pick up the pieces and are, really, traumatized. It’s a horrible moment in all of their lives. And you have to handle it very carefully.

    Our goal is to show the world a side of the NFL that no one has ever seen, but to do it in such a way that humanizes all of these people and gives us an opportunity to understand the life that they’ve chosen. How challenging it is. What’s at stake for them. What can happen when it does go bad, when a coach does get fired.

    When you see the emotional response, I would think it’s pretty powerful for everybody.

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    Amazon’s ‘All Or Nothing’ chronicles drama of Rams’ 4-12 season, fall of Jeff Fisher

    link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/07/03/amazons-all-or-nothing-chronicles-drama-of-rams-4-12-season-fall-of-jeff-fisher/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    RICH HAMMOND

    All or Nothing? How could there be much of anything worth watching about a season in which the Rams went 4-12 and got progressively worse?

    Give it a try.

    A camera crew from NFL Films followed the Rams throughout 2016, from their relocation from St. Louis to their dreadful season-ending loss to Arizona, and the product is “All or Nothing,” an eight-part documentary released online by Amazon.

    The show, in essence a sequel of HBO’s “Hard Knocks,” which followed the Rams during training camp, is exceedingly compelling and, for the most part, a fair and accurate telling of a season full of drama.

    “Hard Knocks” suffered at time because, perhaps in an attempt to attract non-football fans, it attempted to create drama. Would the undrafted receiver who essentially was eighth on the depth chart make the roster? No, of course he would not.

    “All or Nothing” didn’t need to play up any drama. Plenty of it already existed.

    From the relocation to the draft, from a 3-1 start to a circle-the-drain finish, from Jared Goff’s ascension to Jeff Fisher’s firing and Sean McVay’s hiring, every story line is well covered, with narration from actor Jon Hamm and some well-placed game calls from the Rams’ J.B. Long.

    NFL Films received behind-the-scenes access to the Rams’ locker room, meeting rooms and practice field, and also conducted personal interviews with players, coaches and General Manager Les Snead.

    Sometimes the action moves too fast, but that’s expected. Each episode essentially includes three weeks of the season. Really, it could have been a 16-part series, but perhaps nobody wants to relive that much of the Rams’ season.

    “All or Nothing” hits the correct tone from the beginning, as it begins with the compelling scene of Fisher informing the players, on Dec. 12, that he had been fired. It’s excellent production, which essentially tells the viewers, “This is where you’re going, and now we’ll show you how you got here.”

    The contrast is almost immediate. The first episode includes a training-camp meeting in which Fisher, with some hubris, tells his players, “I know what I’m doing.”

    From there, it’s a slow descent. Even Fisher knows it. After a Week 4 victory over Arizona, which improbably raised the Rams’ record to 3-1, Fisher told his coaches that if the Rams didn’t improve, they wouldn’t win another game. They went 1-11 from there.

    What did the show get right?

    • The team did hang together. Those of us who followed the team on a daily basis looked for signs of discord in the locker room, but they were never there. Perhaps, in a way, it should have been, and more players should have been angered about losing, but the players really were as close to each other as the show portrays.

    • Goff’s situation was handled well. It showed what many suspected, that the reason Goff didn’t play until the 10th game of the season had nothing to do with his arm or his feet or his physical abilities. Episodes showed Goff struggling (mildly) with the playbook, leading a huddle and that sort of thing. The issue always was about Goff’s ability to run an offense, not throw the ball.

    Incidentally, the two moments of the series that might be recorded for posterity both involve Goff (and owner Stan Kroenke). On draft night, Kroenke makes the comment that the Rams “knew who (they) were going to pick before the trade” with Tennessee to acquire the No. 1 pick. The Rams had been adamant, throughout the process, that they would evaluate Goff and Carson Wentz equally.

    The other moment is on the field before the Rams-Jets game, when Fisher tells Kroenke that the Rams will start Goff the following week. So the Rams made the decision well in advance, and told their owner right before quarterback Case Keenum led the team to what turned out to be their final victory of the season.

    • The players’ and coaches’ personalities were represented well. The cameras seemed to gravitate toward Keenum, at least until the switch to Goff was made — this also happened with the local media — and outgoing guys such as William Hayes. For anyone who might wonder, “Is this how these guys really are?” the answer is yes. The series accurately portrays Jim Fassel as a kind, good-natured man who got thrust into a difficult situation and tried to do right by the team.

    What did the show get wrong?

    • There are some mild liberties when it comes to the editing. Fisher’s infamous “7-9” speech was not the first team meeting, but actually was an early-camp response to a couple off-field incidents that irritated him. Fisher did not actually wave his hands to quiet the crowd while it cheered “We want Goff” during a game at the Coliseum. Some of the B-roll footage jumps around a little, but nothing significantly changes the story.

    • Some of the in-season controversies seemed to get downplayed. The Eric Dickerson fiasco was mentioned, but not in great detail, and this was a story (even if overblown) that dominated media coverage for multiple days.

    Fisher’s contract extension, news of which got leaked before the New England game, was never mentioned. That’s odd, given that it was a big story and Fisher got fired a couple weeks later. Also left unmentioned was the possible rift between Fisher and Snead, although both denied one existed.

    It’s impossible, though, to fit every story line into a cohesive narrative, and in general the show did a fantastic job of showing how things went wrong for the Rams in 2016.

    The show ends with the rise of Coach Sean McVay, and leaves viewers wishing the cameras would keep rolling for a bit longer.

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    NFL Films explains omission of Jeff Fisher’s firing from All or Nothing

    Mike Florio

    NFL Films explains omission of Jeff Fisher’s firing from All or Nothing

    When it comes to the firing of Rams coach Jeff Fisher and its aftermath, the second season of All or Nothing was closer to all than nothing. Still, as to the actual firing of Fisher, we got nothing.

    NFL Films coordinating producer Keith Cossrow recently explained the omission of the actual Fisher firing from the eight-hour extravaganza.

    “I think anyone who understands the nature of documentary filmmaking knows that it’s impossible to capture everything,” Cossrow told Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times. “You can have 10 cameras rolling 24/7 and you would still miss a thousand important moments. That’s just the nature of the beast. So I think the fact that [director] Shannon [Furman] and the crew were able to capture so much of what happened the day Coach Fisher was fired, and that no one ever told us to turn off the cameras once they were rolling, is an extraordinary achievement and a testament to the job they did in the field building trust with the team.”

    It would have been obvious, however, if the cameras had turned off during the various meetings that happened as Fisher revealed his fate to coaches and players, and after Fisher made his exit. And people like me would now be pointing out that the Rams/NFL had restricted the process of capturing the tense, emotional, and chaotic moments that occur as a coach makes an unexpected exit.

    So it’s hard to give the Rams and the league credit for not avoiding one of the obvious potential consequences of having cameras and microphones present for a full football season. And it’s even harder to simply shrug at the failure of the show to catch the defining moment of the season by saying “it’s impossible to capture everything.”

    Indeed, inherent limitations to the filming process made it impossible to capture the firing of Fisher.

    “We don’t have cameras in the coach’s office at all, and that’s one difference between Hard Knocks and All or Nothing,” Furman told Farmer. “After the Falcons game, Coach Fisher and [assistant head coach Dave McGinnis] were together on Monday morning, prepping for the Seattle game. They were in Coach Fisher’s office. I touched base with Coach Fisher, and then left to grab a smoothie for breakfast. I got a phone call from my production assistant who works the robotics cameras, and he asked, ‘How far away are you?’ I said, ‘I can be there in three minutes.’ He said, ‘Coach just told the staff he was fired.’”

    In other words, if they’d had cameras in the coach’s office during All or Nothing — cameras that routinely document the firing of players during Hard Knocks — we may have seen the Fisher firing or, at a minimum, the moment when he got word to go to someone else’s office to get the news. And if the trust built with the Rams was truly significant, Kevin Demoff or someone else in upper management would have tipped someone off to the looming termination, allowing them to plan for covering it properly, up to and including lobbying to have a camera in the room where the firing took place.

    As a result, the moment wasn’t expressly censored during or after the fact. The infrastructure of the show essentially pre-censored it.

    Of course, that explanation doesn’t account for the failure of the show to mention that Fisher’s contract extension, which apparently had been signed months earlier and deliberately concealed from the public, was leaked and then announced not long before he was fired. Likewise, Cossrow’s explanation doesn’t address for the absence of any mention of the reports of internal dysfunction that emerged days before Fisher was fired or his subsequent vow to find the leaker.

    None of this changes the fact that All or Nothing was, all in all, entertaining most of the time and flat-out compelling in certain key spots. But it could have been better. If enough people point that out this time around, maybe the next time they do the show it will be.

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    Four things we learned from ‘All or Nothing’ with LA Rams

    FOX Sports West

    http://www.foxsports.com/west/gallery/los-angeles-rams-all-or-nothing-jared-goff-aaron-donald-070617

    All or Nothing: A Season with the Los Angeles Rams brings the football fan behind-the-scenes of an organization that dealt with more commotion than the average team. A fired coach, a cross-country move, trying to keep their No. 1 overall draft from being a bust, and a historic season which ended in an abysmal 4-12 record sums up 2016 for the Rams. But, the show somehow manages to make the disappointing return season watchable and, frankly, led me to believe that that this team was in fact better than their record shows. Besides the personality-lacking Jeff Fisher and his staff, All or Nothing’s second season gave extraordinary insight into a team that isn’t good, and made them good. There were no shortage of storylines throughout the show, but its eight-episode cap forced the show to limit itself, not allowing for full reaction of processing of things that happened. Being with a team, though, in all its entirety allows for an attachment to not just a player or coach, but to an organization. No abrupt cuts, vying to make the team, or the expected drama of the competition of camp, just 53 grown men trying to make their team better. The Rams, fortunately, has a roster filled with these types of men, and in All or Nothing, we learned a lot about them.

    4 Gregg Williams is still insane, but it’s charming

    If the New Orleans Saints ‘Bountygate’ wasn’t enough of an indication that former Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams had a screw loose, All of Nothing reminds us that that screw may have just gotten looser. At first, he seems to be a normal coach: passionate about his job, loves to yell profanity, and watches an endless amount of film. Look and listen closer, and hear that screw shaking. Gregg Williams sleeps in his office multiple days a week on an inflatable mattress with no sheet or blanket, just one pillow. When describing players, Williams uses a language that makes him sound like a weapon salesmen. In characterizing linebacker Mark Barron, he calls him a perfect ‘find ball, see ball, get ball’ player and praises him for the amount of ‘hammer awards’ he’s won. These are given to the player that, as Williams puts it, ‘makes a really good contact legal hit,’ and that fact seems to get him a little too excited as he proceeds to tell Barron to ‘not allow anyone to cross their goal line,’ and to ‘make sure of it.’ Under all this craziness is just a 58-year-old man, so it’s almost endearing.

    3 The Rams’ defense is absolutely the real deal

    Honestly, all you need to do is take a look at Aaron Donald and that will tell you everything you need to know. ‘You better not help him,’ Donald says to a Seahawks lineman, ‘be a man.’ It’s apparent from the start that Donald wants to set the tone and the other 10 quickly follow. Even in their weekday preparation, the Rams defense flew around walk-through practices, feed off the energy of their teammates, and know and embrace the fact that they are the strength of the team. At halftime and after games, it is the defense that rallies the team together, reminds the team of their goal, and keeps the team grounded in success. ‘Go back to work’ seems to be the defense’s message to the team at-large: They are aware of the Rams situation and reputation, and are on an at-all-costs mission to save it. From Alec Ogletree to Trumaine Johnson, the Rams defense has an array of talent and athleticism that will thrive and be fun to watch in Wade Phillips’ new system.

    2 The Los Angeles Rams genuinely care for each other

    Sure the NFL is, at its core, a business that pays its employees for a service. Some players and fans get caught up in the ‘workplace regulations’ of the league, its numbers, and money, and alas, it’s easy to forget that this is a team game that the players play to do one thing: win. Add the glamour of being back in Los Angeles, and it seems almost impossible for them not to fall into a big market trap. But on this team, there are plenty of leaders, and full of players that can understand how a team can and should work. After losing three straight games with morale running low, running back Benny Cunningham, a relatively unknown name and now an ex-Ram, gathered the offense mid-practice and gave a heartfelt and soul driven speech. ‘If you’re not doing everything you can bro, to help us win bro, you’re cheating us,’ says Cunningham as he is surrounded by his offense, ‘This is how I feed my family, and we lose the rest of these games, I won’t have a job.’ The raw emotion of Cunningham’s speech is felt through the offense, and you can feel that the Rams want to respond. A simple thing, yes, but coming from a player that rarely sees the field, the threatening of a man’s livelihood appeals to the offense as a whole. It is no secret that the Rams were below average in their return home to LA, but the coaches or players never lost hope. Each loss strengthened the roles of the relationships between coaches and players, and ‘We can still turn this thing around’ became their proverb.

    1 Jared Goff is passionate and REALLY wants to play

    There is finally no secret or running competition for the Rams starting quarterback position. Jared Goff, regardless of some of the comments McVay has made about the job, is the guy for the Rams come season. And, boy, is he ready to get on the field. Early into All or Nothing, when Case Keenum was the entrenched starter, Goff was asked about how he feels about the starting job. He tries to give an answer that’s equally honest and proper, but the fire was clearly in his eye. ‘I think as a rookie, the more you can,’ queue the long dramatic pause, ‘kind of learn and sit back and watch and be ready for the right time.’ The extended pause says it all. No Goff doesn’t want to sit back, no Goff doesn’t want to watch and simply be ready, Goff wants the reins to the Rams, and a chance to prove his first-pick worth. ‘Anxiety is over, I’m good now, I’m confident, and ready to go. Ready to play, get back to playing football and back to my job,’ Goff tells the media with a smirk after he is named the starter in Week 11. Goff knows and has known all along that the Rams will be his team soon come, and he’s handled his ascension nicely. Hear his voice crack and hear him talk football with the coaching staff, especially the offensive genius that is Sean McVay, and Goff’s fire is apparent: The kid wants to play and play now.

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    CraigMatson wrote:

    There was a lot I got from watching all the episodes.

    Those injuries to Hayes Quinn and Tru Johnson killed them in the Buff and Detroit games.

    Case played better when the gameplan was up tempo and Gurly was used as a receiver.
    He absolutely had a great game against Detroit,

    Brian Quick should have had a great year but flubbed some plays against The Giants at the end and in Seattle that made both Keenum and Goff look bad.

    Goff looks like he just doesn’t have the fire in his heart to get his troops up. Sorry I believe he’s going to have to be exceptional in other important areas of preparation recognition and execution because personality wise he comes across as a more of a nice guy softie follower type rather than a captain that is going to push anyone hard.

    I also think defences will continue to attempt chopping the ball out so he is going to need to build up awareness and hand strength.

    Tree is athlete at MLB and if the Rams get up On teams enough to force more passing plays they will play to his strength.

    Neither he or Barron are great in run support in a 4-3 set and could be even worse as inside backers in a 3-4 so its a bit scary.

    Brockers role in run defence this year will be colossal along with Barwins.

    The injury to Bennie Cunningham and failure to have a productive 3rd back or consistent running game from Gurly was a huge part of the sub 500 season.

    There were however flashes of heart and burst from Gurley on the wet turf in the Dolphin game. ..?? Maybe they should wet the field down for him more.

    I really wanted to get the inside dope on the foible on the Detroit goaline. ..They skipped it like it never happend . There must have been loads of over the top language or specific blame that had to be cut to avoid embarrassment.

    Fassels personality is very unique and he does connect with his troops well, and just seems to be one of the guys.He instructs well, is somewhat light in his meetings brings some fun with the focus DOJO Fridays: ) for example with headbands and power quotes and film study.
    He has the ability to keep his charges attention and precision up.

    Plus he had lovely footage with his wife and kids. A lot of the show was family orientated and that was great.

    Groh, Wienke and Boras personalities or methods all seemed a stitch off what was needed .
    I thought much more of Groh going into training camp but of the three he seemed the least invested and between he and Boras first of them to become enraged in the pressbox when something went wrong.Position meetings shown with him underwhelmed and that surprised.

    I think some may come away believing a bit more in Weinkes competency.

    More I could say but I’ll finish with episode 8 leaving me with good feeling for future.

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    A ‘Nothing’ Season for Rams Turns Into Compelling TV
    What’s interesting about an NFL team losing 75 percent of its games and firing its head coach before the end of the season? Plenty, as the NFL Films creators behind the Amazon Original series ‘All or Nothing’ learned

    by Kalyn Kahler

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/07/14/los-angeles-rams-all-or-nothing-amazon-nfl-films-series

    On Dec. 12, in a team meeting room, Los Angeles Rams punter Johnny Hekker fights back tears as he stands to address his teammates.
    “That man is gone because of us,” Hekker says.

    He’s talking about head coach Jeff Fisher, who has just left the room for the last time. Some of his former players openly sob, others sit in stunned silence, processing the fact that their leader was fired that morning.

    The aftermath of Jeff Fisher’s post-Week 14 dismissal is one of the most compelling scenes from NFL Films Amazon Original series, All or Nothing: A Season with the Los Angeles Rams. In its first season, the series followed the 2015 Arizona Cardinals, a 13-3 team that was one win away from reaching the Super Bowl. This season in L.A. went an entirely different direction—a franchise on the move, a losing season, and organizational dysfunction. The MMQB talked to NFL Films coordinating producer and All or Nothing show runner Keith Cossrow and the director of the series, Shannon Furman, about the challenges of making the 4-12 Rams season into a compelling series of binge TV.

    KAHLER: NFL Films also produces the show Hard Knocks, which focuses only on the training camp period and coincidentally also featured the Rams last August. What are the biggest challenges in following a team for an entire season as opposed to just a few weeks?

    FURMAN: I think for us, one of the biggest things is that guys don’t see the product until the end. On Hard Knocks, we film for 17 days before the first show airs. Even that is a lot at the time, everybody is waiting to see what this is going to look like. For All or Nothing, since this is such a new series, there are some guys who don’t even know what the series is. So they see you around and they are wearing wires, and you are going home with them and they’re like, What are we doing? Where does this end up? So for me in the field, that is one of the biggest challenges, that they don’t actually get to see what is going on. I remember when [Rams linebacker] Mark Barron had the interception against his former team, the Bucs, I was telling him, Oh the shot is great, wait until you see it! And he was like, Okay when do I see it? And I’m like, well, next July.

    COSSROW: On the back end here at Films, it is such a different process because Hard Knocks is happening in real time, we are trying to make a movie in real time. The turnaround on Hard Knocks is insane and there is nothing really like it in TV. It’s great, it’s amazing, it is a high wire act. And this show is obviously not airing until several months after the season ends. So we’re collecting about 1,200 hours of footage without shaping it right away. We are logging it all and figuring out stories and storylines, obviously tracking the season very closely, but we’re not editing until November or December, and at that point you get a chance to edit it all at once. So even though it is eight episodes, it’s a binge show that is going to drop all at once. So you do get that experience as a storyteller of thinking of it as one big movie or a novel that is told in eight chapters. That sort of storytelling that has become so popular and is so enjoyable. It is a totally different process for us as filmmakers and storytellers on both ends.

    KAHLER: Have you heard any feedback from the players or coaches featured in the series?

    FURMAN: Yeah actually we have, and it has been really positive, which has been great for us because it was a difficult year. I’ve heard from Aaron Donald and the Keenums. I’ve heard from probably almost all of the coaches. Everybody seems to really think that we have portrayed them very fairly and showed their hard work through a very difficult situation.

    KAHLER: Have you heard anything from Jeff Fisher? The scenes from the moments after he was fired were so powerful, I’m interested to know what he thinks of it.

    FURMAN: Coach Fisher has watched the whole series. He likes it. He’s been around for such a long time that he understands what life in the NFL is like and I think he saw the value in having us being able to show how close they were in some of those early games and how quickly things can go wrong even though they are all working extremely hard. At no point was he ever reluctant throughout the season. We knew it was going to be tough going into it, they moved the whole franchise. So we knew we probably weren’t going to be in the NFC Championship like the Cardinals the year before, but we still thought it was valuable. It was still a historic year for the NFL and L.A., which is one of the big reasons why we went forward with this. It didn’t go the way Coach Fisher wanted it to go, but I think he really saw the value in us being able to show a group of people working hard and things just didn’t go the way they had planned.

    COSSROW: That response from the players and the coaches and Coach Fisher, I think it speaks to what is unique about this season of All or Nothing and why I think it is worth checking out. We’ve never had a chance to tell a story like this before, in 55 years of making football movies at NFL Films. Like Shannon said, I think they all recognized the value of what we are trying to do here, in showing a side of life in the NFL that people don’t ever get to see. This is what happens when a season goes bad. When you watch the show, you’ll see it’s not because they aren’t working hard and it’s not because they aren’t trying their best, and it’s not because they aren’t talented players and brilliant coaches. It’s a razor’s edge, the NFL, and a lot of those games early in the season could have gone either way, and are decided on the last drive of the game. That team could have been 5-2 or 6-1 very easily, and to see it not go their way, and then that snowball starts to roll downhill on them and get away from them.
    This happens to seven or eight teams every year in the NFL.That’s a lot of lives that get upended and a lot of coaches and families that have to start over again. It’s a really tough life. I think the players and coaches had a feeling of what we were going to do in the story, but after seeing it, it confirmed to them that we were going to tell the true story of what it’s like to have this happen. It’s not an indictment of anyone, so much as it is, here’s the reality of it. It’s hard and it can happen to anybody in the NFL.

    KAHLER: Unlike Hard Knocks, there is no camera in the coach’s office when shooting All or Nothing. Because of this, you guys weren’t able to capture the moment where Jeff Fisher finds out he is fired. Will you try to negotiate for cameras inside the coach’s office for next season? Or is that something a team would never agree to?

    COSSROW: We have a meeting here next week before people leave for Hard Knocks, a final post mortem to talk about what we did well and what we can do better, and how we can improve the show, should we be fortunate enough to have a season three, and I’m sure we will talk about that. I think there are things we do in Hard Knocks, it is a limited six weeks, it’s during training camp, that it just might not be practical to do over four or five months. To have a camera in a head coach’s office running 12 hours a day, seven days a week for four months is a lot. It’s a lot of resources to expend, it’s a lot to ask of anyone to allow that. It’s something we will consider, it just might not be something that is practical for this show, or necessary. We get so much from just constantly wiring everyone on the field at practice, from being in all the meeting rooms. Yes, of course there are moments that you don’t get, but even if we have a camera in a coach’s office, what’s to say he is not going to go outside and make a phone call on his cell phone? You can shoot 24/7 with 10 cameras and you’re still going to miss a lot of things. There is no way to prevent that.

    KAHLER: You caught some pretty incredible scenes of the aftermath of Fisher’s firing, like when Hekker cries and tell his teammates, “That man is gone because of us.” Were you surprised by the raw emotion there that you were able to capture?

    FURMAN: Probably not, just after being around the team for that long. Coach Fisher is a player’s coach. Those guys love him. By that time of the year, I had been around since the start of Hard Knocks and even before the start of Hard Knocks. I got a feel for that everyday how much these guys liked him. He is loyal to a lot of his players. He brought some guys with him from Tennessee, [wide receiver] Kenny Britt and [defensive end] Will Hayes. Those guys love him. I’ve been around a lot of teams in my 13 years with NFL Films and I’ve really never seen anything like it. I would even see star players from other teams come up to him pregame and tell him that they would love to play for him some day. It did not surprise me, the emotion that those guys had that day. Everyone had this feeling that Fisher was safe, himself included. A lot of the players thought this was going to be a free year because they moved and they had a lot of other stuff to go through, so everyone was pretty shocked and I think that emotion was really real that day.

    KAHLER: What is the best scene that was cut from the final series?

    COSSROW: People always love asking that questions, but I always watch these deleted scenes from movies or shows and they are usually deleted because they aren’t that good.

    FURMAN: I’ll answer for Keith. I went to Paris for a day with the wives and that was cut out. It’s in the bonus scenes, but that was not easy to organize. I was French travel agent for the day, and I had never been to France in my life. I thought it was a fun scene, but we got a lot of great access in London that week, so at the end of the day, we went with the stuff that had the guys in it because we did a bunch of trips all around London with different players, so when it came time to cut something out, that went. But I thought that was a cool scene [because] that was something we’ve never done before.

    COSSROW: It was expensive too. Our project manager was not happy. You make those decisions because you can only tell so many stories. There are only so many characters that an audience can be asked to really be invested.

    KAHLER: Was there one guy on the team, either coach or player, who you felt most invested?

    FURMAN: That’s easy for me. That was [quarterback] Case Keenum. Case is awesome, his wife is awesome. I had the chance to work with him in Houston also, back in 2013. Nobody works harder than Case. He’s a great leader. He has become a good friend. We were all rooting for him here, and he gave us a ton of access into what he was going through that year, especially as the quarterback of a team that just moved to L.A. I’ll continue to root for him. He’s in Minnesota now, so there’s a chance he might be playing again this year.

    COSSROW: I think the other guy who emerges in the series and someone who you really root for is [special teams coordinator] John Fassel. He is a fascinating case. His dad is Jim Fassel, who coached the Giants, and we knew that he is a terrific special teams coach, with an interesting and fun personality. Shannon and the directors knew that from Hard Knocks, but we were very skeptical out here as to whether we would find a way to get him into the show. Shannon would call me and say, Keith, we’re going to shoot Coach Fassel on the beach with his wife and kids tomorrow night. And I would say, Shannon that’s great, I have no idea what we are going to do with that, but go for it! Maybe special teams will have a great game and we will find a way to weave him into the story somehow. And then lo and behold, everything happens and John Fassel becomes the interim head coach and in a lot of ways he was as shocked as anyone. You see this guy get thrust behind the wheel of a sinking ship. All of a sudden he is the head coach of an NFL team with three weeks left in the season. It is just a really emotional scene to watch unfold. He becomes a little bit of our proxy. He comes off as a very regular guy, someone we can relate. It was interesting to us to track his story.

    KAHLER: I was impressed that you somehow made the Rams home opener, where neither L.A. or Seattle scored a touchdown, look like a compelling game. The Rams went 4-12 and has a pretty miserable season. How challenging was it to make bad football look good?

    COSSROW: So challenging. We’ve been editing football games for a long time here, so we’ve had a lot of practice. I think a lot of the techniques we’ve learned over the years—wiring players, bringing a lot of cameras, and looking for different ways to tell a story—make it less dependent on how many touchdowns are scored. In this series, the games function as another scene where you can get to know the players better and see the characters in action. Heading into a game, you will have been introduced to guys like [defensive tackle] Aaron Donald and [running back] Todd Gurley and then the games serve as payoffs or high points in action, even when there isn’t a lot of scoring or traditionally exciting action. You are still seeing your characters in a way that you want to know what happens to them. Aaron Donald is wired against the Seahawks and wreaking havoc against their offensive line and destroying Russell Wilson. That is compelling. It might not be that exciting when you are watching the Fox broadcast in Week 2 and you’re looking for fantasy stats, but in this context, there is a lot we can do to make it interesting.

    KAHLER: I love the scenes where the players are hanging out together away from the facility, like the one where a group of guys are grilling out together at Robert Quinn’s house. How do those moments come together?

    FURMAN: I spend many hours in the parking lot, stalking everyone. Rob was actually the only player on the team I really knew, going into Hard Knocks. That was Rob and Will Hayes and Aaron Donald, and their wives and fiancees. [The grill scene] actually came about through Rob’s wife, Christina. She had told us that they were going to be doing that and invited us by if we wanted to come and film for a little bit. A lot of it is through forming relationships with wives and mothers, because women are usually more dependable. We try to figure out what our storylines are and sometimes it doesn’t end up paying off in the games. We knew that moving was a storyline, so we started talking with [tight end] Lance Kendricks and his wife Danielle about their house, because they were doing a home renovation project. You’re just always looking for things to do, whether it is through the PR staff or forming relationships on your own. I don’t know that we will ever try to do a Hard Knocks team for All or Nothing ever again but it was nice having those relationships.

    COSSROW: The scene Shannon mentioned with Lance and Danielle Kendricks—there is a scene with the two of them that is a great example with what we are trying to accomplish with off-the-field shoots in this series. He drops a crucial pass that would have been a touchdown against Carolina. It’s a devastating moment. It’s one of these games that they probably should have won. The defense played great but the offense just could not score. And then the next scene, you’re at their house and they are cooking dinner and they are talking about what happened and how difficult that is. Did you bring that home? How do you move on? It’s not something you ever think about as fans when we watch a game and scream at our TV when a guy dropped a pass. You don’t think about, Oh, that guy is going to go home and have dinner tonight with his wife and sit and talk about that, or not talk about that. What we try to do is capture the mundane. When we ask players if we can shoot something with them off the field, we are not trying to do something they wouldn’t ordinarily do. Can we just come home with you while you are cooking dinner or whatever it is you are going to do tonight?

    FURMAN: When I shot with Rodger Saffold one night, we come over and they were filming with E! before we got there. It was a huge set with lights and Rodger and his wife said, Shannon, what do you want us to do? And I was like, I want you to do whatever you were going to do. I want you to feed your kids and put your kids to bed, I don’t want you to do anything that is fabricated. So that’s the scene where you see Rodger pulling the kids around in the cardboard boxes. It’s just natural. I usually say, Can we just come over tonight? Just eat dinner and I’ll throw some questions at you, we just want it to be real.

    COSSROW: That’s the idea of the show. We want to give fans a chance to see what this life really is about and that means, do what you’re doing and let us come capture a little piece of it. I know a lot of people have asked, Why did you do the Rams? Why should we watch a series about a team that didn’t go anywhere? I think this season it is just as compelling as the last season, where we saw a team that almost went to the Super Bowl. Now we see the other side of that coin.

    KAHLER: Which team will be featured next year?

    COSSROW: We are in conversations with several teams and we certainly hope and expect to do a third season, so we will see what happens.

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