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  • #131694
    zn
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    I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences

    https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article253641358.html

    What we are seeing in Afghanistan right now shouldn’t shock you. It only seems that way because our institutions are steeped in systematic dishonesty. It doesn’t require a dissertation to explain what you’re seeing. Just two sentences.

    One: For 20 years, politicians, elites and D.C. military leaders lied to us about Afghanistan.

    Two: What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you.

    I know because I was there. Twice. On special operations task forces. I learned Pashto as a U.S. Marine captain and spoke to everyone I could there: everyday people, elites, allies and yes, even the Taliban.

    The truth is that the Afghan National Security Forces was a jobs program for Afghans, propped up by U.S. taxpayer dollars — a military jobs program populated by nonmilitary people or “paper” forces (that didn’t really exist) and a bevy of elites grabbing what they could when they could.

    You probably didn’t know that. That’s the point.

    And it wasn’t just in Afghanistan. They also lied about Iraq.

    I led a team of Marines training Iraqi security forces to defend their country. When I arrived I received a “stoplight” chart on their supposed capabilities in dozens of missions and responsibilities. Green meant they were good. Yellow was needed improvement; red said they couldn’t do it at all.

    I was delighted to see how far along they were on paper — until I actually began working with them. I attempted to adjust the charts to reflect reality and was quickly shut down. The ratings could not go down. That was the deal. It was the kind of lie that kept the war going.

    So when people ask me if we made the right call getting out of Afghanistan in 2021, I answer truthfully: Absolutely not. The right call was getting out in 2002. 2003. Every year we didn’t get out was another year the Taliban used to refine their skills and tactics against us — the best fighting force in the world. After two decades, $2 trillion and nearly 2,500 American lives lost, 2021 was way too late to make the right call.

    You’d think when it all came crumbling down around them, they’d accept the truth. Think again.

    War-hungry hawks are suggesting our soldiers weren’t in harm’s way. Well, when I was there, two incredible Marines in my unit were killed.

    Elitist hacks are even blaming the American people for what happened last week. The same American people that they spent years lying to about Afghanistan. Are you kidding me?

    We deserve better. Instead of politicians spending $6.4 trillion to “nation build” in the Middle East, we should start nation building right here at home.

    I can’t believe that would be a controversial proposal, but already in Washington, we see some of the same architects of these Middle Eastern disasters balking at the idea of investing a fraction of that amount to build up our own country.

    The lies about Afghanistan matter not just because of the money spent or the lives lost, but because they are representative of a systematic dishonesty that is destroying our country from the inside out.

    Remember when they told us the economy was back? Another lie.

    Our state of Missouri was home to the worst economic recovery from the Great Recession in this part of the country. I see the boarded-up stores and the vacant lots — one of which used to be my family’s home. When our country’s elites were preaching about how they had solved the financial crisis and the housing market was booming, I watched the house I joined the Marine Corps out of sit on the market for two years. My dad finally got $43,000 for it. He owed $78,000.

    The only way out is to level with the American people. I’ll start. With the two-sentence truth about what we are seeing in Afghanistan right now:

    For 20 years, politicians, elites and D.C. military leaders lied to us about Afghanistan.

    What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you.

    #131711
    Zooey
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    It’s almost like nation building isn’t really a viable military strategy.

    #131724
    wv
    Participant

    It’s almost like nation building isn’t really a viable military strategy.

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    Well, it must not be ‘nation building’ they are even trying to do.

    Six trillion dollars went to corporations, etc.
    Afghanistan (and Iraq) were HUGE successes to the powers-that-be, Ie.,
    the corpse.

    The politicians and masses debate ‘nation building’ but
    apparently thats not really the game, is it.

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    #131731
    Zooey
    Moderator

    I think the neocons believed that they could transform the Middle East, and bring them American-style corporatocracy, and saw that as a good thing.

    #131758
    wv
    Participant

    I think the neocons believed that they could transform the Middle East, and bring them American-style corporatocracy, and saw that as a good thing.

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    Well, maybe. But in my mind, its almost equally probable
    some of the neocons are just mouthing platitudes for the masses,
    and the real game is simply arms-sales, privitization-profits, pipeline-profits,
    etc. Not so much nation building as raw, unmitigated bribes and graft.

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    #131759
    Zooey
    Moderator

    Well, maybe. But in my mind, its almost equally probable
    some of the neocons are just mouthing platitudes for the masses,
    and the real game is simply arms-sales, privitization-profits, pipeline-profits,
    etc. Not so much nation building as raw, unmitigated bribes and graft.

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    v

    They might be now. I have had that exact thought as I’ve read some of Bill Kristol’s recent tweets.

    But the PNAC publication wasn’t intended for the public, and you may recall that they took it off the internet once attention was drawn to it. There was a time that they believed it. That failed, obviously, and maybe they have faced that reality. Could be they’ve given up on nation-building, and just continued with the platitudes to paper over the money-making agenda which was always more important, anyway.

    #131760
    Zooey
    Moderator

    This article begs some questions, but I can’t really be bothered to research answers. In the end, the story is always the same: capitalism does its thing.

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/08/25/us-endgame-afghanistan-was-mineral-extraction-not-democracy

    The US Endgame in Afghanistan Was Mineral Extraction, Not Democracy
    The American departure from Afghanistan was inevitable. We shouldn’t ask what went wrong? We need to ask: what could possibly have gone right?

    NADIA AHMAD

    August 25, 2021
    Since the U.S. withdrawal in Afghanistan, there has been no shortage of solidarity statements to mourn the demise of democracy and support the rule of law in Afghanistan. I appreciate the sentiment, but I am also concerned about the loss of lives and the violations of international law that occurred during the decades of U.S. military occupation in Afghanistan and the failure of the international community to protect the sovereignty of countries.

    As a gentle history lesson, the U.S. military invasion of Afghanistan was based on a series of lies perpetuated by President George W. Bush, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and their numerous neocon chums. The U.S. was not in Afghanistan to establish democracy and respect for the rule of law and human rights. It was there to weed out the terrorists it had created decades earlier to fight the Soviet Union; the U.S. wanted to clear the field in order to secure one trillion dollars of mineral concessions for iron, copper, gold and lithium for which China and India had obtained the rights for during the U.S. occupation. In short, a decade ago, Afghanistan invited foreign investment and public bids from China, India and other countries, purposely excluding U.S. companies.

    A minimal level of intellectual honesty about the historical facts and transnational business interests would help matters.

    The U.S. military and its contractors served as security presence to protect assets and mineral rights already claimed to other foreign countries. In the past decade, American military forces were little more than security guards for foreign mining companies, including the Metallurgical Corporation of China, Jiangxi Copper Corporation, and the China National Petroleum Corporation.

    I am disheartened that my government threatens to use sanctions as a weapon of mass starvation. If the American legal institutions are truly concerned about the lives and livelihood of millions in Afghanistan, they would urge the United States to open its borders and accept Afghan people instead of dumping them in other countries or letting them fall from the sky. My government would not scramble to freeze foreign aid to a country facing famine.

    The previous Afghan government teetered on with some foreign aid. The backlash we now see is a narco-state that is fueled by a black market of opium, guns, and military equipment. Earlier this summer, Taliban fighters beat a woman to death with AK-47s because she wasn’t able to cook for them. While the Taliban is beating women with guns for not feeding them, the U.S. Department of State is freezing $9.5 billion of Afghan money in U.S controlled banks—seeking to starve millions of civilians in its self-professed effort to protect the rights of minorities and women. Yet the Taliban cannot even bend under that pressure, because it relies on physical U.S. dollars and its own trust-based system, known as hawala. The Taliban can function through its black market money systems, but the people of Afghanistan will suffer without foreign aid. If we were so concerned about the Afghan people, we would not have occupied them and sought to impose “our” version of democracy on “them” during the Cold War.

    Instead we should reflect on how we arrived at this moment.

    This month marks a sharp contrast to 20 years ago when planes were hijacked and commandeered into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Last week, we saw Afghanis clinging to U.S. military planes for a chance at a new life on these shores. Watching people fall to their deaths from U.S. military plane evacuations was similar to seeing people jumping to their deaths in the WTC as it was crumbling. The U.S. departure from Afghanistan was inevitable. We shouldn’t ask what went wrong? We need to ask: what could possibly have gone right? We followed faulty and deceptive advice on the invasion and sheepishly walked away.

    All told, according to the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, between 480,000 and 507,000 people have been killed in the post-9/11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan waged by the U.S. military. This tally of the counts and estimates of direct deaths caused by war violence does not include the more than 500,000 deaths from the war in Syria—raging since 2011—which the U.S. joined in August 2014. According to a 2020 study also conducted under the auspices of the Watson Institute, the several wars initiated or participated in by the United States in its war against terror have caused the displacement, conservatively calculated of 37 million people in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and the Philippines. Of these, an estimated 25 million people have returned home following displacement.

    Today’s statements denouncing the collapse of democracy and the rule of law are essentially the same statements that could have been written 20 years ago when the U.S. invaded Afghanistan. I am sick and tired of the colonial gaze of First World nations on Third World minerals, of my government’s imperialist ambitions that rob human life and of the television news anchors who invite backers of the U.S. invasion to blast Biden for withdrawing our troops.

    I want to see humanitarian assistance in Afghanistan. I want us to welcome Afghan refugees instead of letting them fall from the sky.

    Our work is licensed under Creative Commons (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0). Feel free to republish and share widely.

    NADIA AHMAD

    Nadia Ahmad is a law professor at Barry University School of Law and the author of the article, Climate Cages: Connecting Migration, the Carceral State, Extinction Rebellion, and the Coronavirus through Cicero and 21 Savage.

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    Zooey
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    #131821
    zn
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    #131825
    Zooey
    Moderator

    This 100% needed to be said out loud. Please share this far and wide.

    I asked somebody why the flag was at half mast, and they told me. And after I completed my facepalm at how stupid I am for not figuring that out without help from a bystander, my internal monologue went something like this woman’s.

    Then I thought of all the Covid deaths – a staggering number that dwarfs the deaths of American soldiers in Afghanistan – and how some lives are just considered to be more important than other lives.

    You can tell a lot about a society by whose deaths are revered publicly in a manner like this, and whose lives are not valued.

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