A completely non-scientific and brief comment about passing mechanics.

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  • January 26, 2019 at 10:50 am #97309
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    I haven’t done any extensive legwork on this one, but I think it’s clearly the case: Brady gets his passes off quickly due (at least in part) to the way he passes, his mechanics, where he holds the football before passing it, the angle, the shorter distance between two points, etcetera.

    In my view, Goff takes longer, at least in part, because he has an odd delivery, doesn’t hold the ball at the optimum level and, at times, has a whip motion to his passes that takes even longer.

    Is this correctable? I think it definitely is. Will it be corrected. Not likely. It’s unlikely anyone else even sees it as a problem.

    I do, and it reminds me a bit of another LA athlete, the Laker’s Lonzo Ball. He has horrendously bad mechanics with his shot, and it looks like he shouldn’t be able to make any of them. But he does. Not at a high percentage, or even average. But he makes a few. Unlike the Rams’ star QB, however, the Lakers actually want him to change his shooting motion, and the word is they’ve worked with him to do so. I wish they’d talk with the Rams’ QB coaches.

    January 26, 2019 at 10:53 am #97310
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    All of that said, I’m a big fan of Goff’s. I think he’s an excellent all-around QB, who really came into his own this season. And, at just 24, the future is extremely bright for him and the Rams. He’s going to get even better, and he’s already among the best in the league.

    I mention the above because I think his throwing motion holds him back a bit. I think if he held the ball, like Brady, and like Peyton Manning used to, it would improve both his accuracy and his release times. This would also mean fewer sacks and QB hits.

    But, again, I think he’s really good, right now, and without him, the Rams don’t even get to the playoffs, much less the Super Bowl . . . .

    January 26, 2019 at 11:31 am #97313
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    i don’t know enough about throwing mechanics to say one way or another.

    i do think he has some streakiness to him. and i wish he’d be more consistent. maybe it’s related to his mechanics. i don’t know.

    January 26, 2019 at 11:53 am #97314
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    i don’t know enough about throwing mechanics to say one way or another.

    i do think he has some streakiness to him. and i wish he’d be more consistent. maybe it’s related to his mechanics. i don’t know.

    Watch him in the Super Bowl. He tends to wind up, extend his arm in an odd way — which reminds me a bit of a towel whip. This just flat out takes longer to get to the release point than a motion like Brady’s. But I also think it’s in that gray zone, where a QB coach is likely to think, “No big deal. Let’s not mess with it.”

    IMO . . . and I’m likely on an island about this . . . it makes enough of a difference to try to correct this in the offseason.

    January 26, 2019 at 12:46 pm #97316
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    Billy_T wrote:

    Is this correctable? I think it definitely is.

    I see this one differently. I think Goff’s throwing talents are ideal, myself. He works under the same qb guru Brady does (a guy named Adam Dedeaux … https://www.si.com/mmqb/2017/01/26/matt-ryan-tom-brady-super-bowl-51-nfl-notes … )

    My feeling is that given the attention Goff gets from guys like Dedeaux and McVay, that if there were an issue, they would address it. My guess is they probably encourage what he does, actually.

    As it stands I don’t think there’s an issue. As Orlovsky says, Goff’s arm is very elastic and flexible and that allows him to throw from many different stances. His arm is also ideal for those 15-20 yard lasers he throws, and of course also for those (to use contradictory terms) 30 yard touch passes he throws.

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