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December 6, 2014 at 12:00 am #13191TSRFParticipant
Next Sunday will be 2 years to the date that the shooting at Sandy Hook School occurred.
I’d like to say that things are getting back to normal, but they aren’t.
My daughter, who went through that school and is now a freshman in college called this week and said she is having anxiety issues; she was walking on Comm Ave in Boston, and looked up at towers above her, and imagined what would happen if there was somebody up there with a machine gun. She ran to class and is now seriously wondering if she needs professional help.
I was a technical conference, and prior to my presentation, my section leader read my autobiography. It ended with, “..and lives in Sandy Hook, CT with his wife and two children.”
I got a lump in my throat and nearly burst into tears at the thought of the slaughter that took place in my town…
I heard a song on the radio lately, not sure if it is new or old, but it resonated:
“I’m not sick but I’m not well,
But that’s OK, ’cause I’m in Hell…”Kind of sums it up for me and mine.
December 6, 2014 at 12:33 pm #13216sdramParticipantWell TSRF, I would like to encourage you to move forward as best you can. You know this but I’ll say it that some things that truly matter can never be ‘fixed’ to be even ok. But, it’s good for you to honestly express your thoughts and feelings – particularly to yourself. It’s a way to examine them in the bright light which I think is a good thing. You know now that life goes on. I’ll use the old cliche that time will heal the wounds but temper that with never completely. There will be scars but healing will happen.
After my son’s suicide in 1995 I was beside myself with grief for a couple of years – a lot of self loathing and kind of internal condemnation, some denial, reliving the events and mistakes etc… But you know, we had three other kids that needed a real father and a shot at the best kind of life I could make for them. Their lives had to move forward without the cloud of grief and they needed their dad and father to be there for them. A lot of times it was a day to day thing for me – I had to and still sometimes have to consciously remind myself that there are people counting on me and leaning on me for what they need so I need to get my attitude in the right place, shelf the self loathing, and think of what I can do to help not only myself but them as best I could.
These are people I love – they are mine, my family, my kids, my wife, my friends. Now, I’m not ever going to be perfect at anything – and I still have some serious scars where my sons death is concerned. I can’t fix that, ever. But, my kids are all grown with their own families now and they’re all happy which I am so thankful for. Even now, nineteen years later it seems that the sense of loss and grief will slap me around when I’m at my lowest or during times like the holidays. My family continues to inspire me to keep being there for them and to keep being me. And to keep pressing forward to be as good as I can be at whatever they need me to be and try to make the most out of every moment.
December 6, 2014 at 9:56 pm #13251TSRFParticipantSDRAM, thanks for responding and thank you for sharing.
I can’t even imagine what you must have gone through.
I didn’t lose anybody close, I just live in this town, I don’t know why I feel so broken; people are killed every fucking minute in the world.
Maybe I’ll go get help.
December 6, 2014 at 11:43 pm #13253PA RamParticipantFirst of all, let me say to “sdram” that I am so sorry to hear that about your son–I did not know that but your courage to move forward and put your other children above your grief is very admirable. You never know what’s around life’s next corner and for parents who have to deal with these tragedies, my heart goes out to them. I can’t begin to imagine that hell.
TSRF, I think it’s understandable how affected you were by this tragedy in your hometown. Whenever I hear about these things I feel affected. Any parent who does not feel this on a personal level in some way is someone I can’t relate to, and I can’t imagine there are many out there who aren’t affected.
There is no bond in life greater than a parent for their child(I understand that sadly, that’s not always the case) but when I hear of these tragedies I have to hug my children a little tighter(funny I still say children–my kids are grown-ups but they’re always going to be my KIDS).
It’s easy to personalize these events at some level and I can only imagine that the closer you are to an event the easier that is.
My daughter works about 40 minutes from our house and the drive there isn’t the greatest or safest road. Fortunately most days she stays with her friends near where she works and it’s an easy 10 minute drive but sometimes she comes home and makes the drive.
The other day there was a nine car accident. A tractor trailer driver fell asleep and basically his truck rammed through cars like a bowling ball through pins. Two people died–one a boy, my daughter’s age, on his way to work. My daughter was with her friends and not driving up that day but if she had been driving she would have been around the accident scene at the time it happened.
Terrifying.
I’m still thinking about that.
As parents there is so much out of our control. But we want our kids safe more than anything.
It’s tough.
Hang in there, TSRF. I wish you well and hope that you can find some way to deal with this and “sdram” had great advice.
I wish you the best.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
December 7, 2014 at 9:13 am #13266sdramParticipantThanks – I was just trying to let you know how I dealt with this horrific thing I couldn’t fix or control. It wasn’t something I was able to do overnight and I still struggle with it at times. Nobody I know really feels comfortable talking about it when it comes up which I understand totally. It’s a real conversation stopper. But, internally it’s a huge part of what shaped me to where I am right now. It’s hard for me to deal with others grief, pain, or feelings as well. Nobody knows what to say when somebody has those raw emotions exposed like they are after something horrific and they don’t want to say the wrong thing.
Those event anniversaries were and can still be pretty hard for me – the first few years particularly. I usually stay home from work and just hang out in the kitchen or the lake over the hill where I feel comfortable, shielded. They can hit you pretty hard and particularly when you’re down.
So, focusing on work and family has helped me to move on. I still have some goals left in life at 58. There are 10000 good memories of my son for this one bad one and it’s important that those are recognized.
Just got an order for Rice Krispies for breakfast from my 6 year old granddaughter – gotta go. She’s now humming joy to the world and dancing around behind me as I type.
December 8, 2014 at 1:58 am #13368TSRFParticipantHey, 60 is the new 30! You better have some goals left!
My wife and I both turned 50 this year, but we have an 18 year old in college and a 15 year old in high school to keep us young.
I’m OK for now. What set me off was my daughter’s anxiety attack. She’s a better person than I have ever hoped to be; kind, compassionate, open heart and helping hands, and to have her feel so afraid made me angry.
I guess my insurance sucks, the earliest she can meet with a doctor is 12/16. Her last final is 12/19.
I’ll take “angry” for now, it should get me through the year.
December 12, 2014 at 6:49 pm #13750TSRFParticipantNew e-mail I got. Please cut and paste the link and watch the video.
Matt,
In two days, we’ll mark the second anniversary of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary that claimed the lives of 20 children and six educators and left a gaping, permanent hole in our community.
Since Dec. 14, 2012, all of us at Sandy Hook Promise have learned much about the roots and causes of gun violence – and the devastation it leaves behind. But above all else, we now know that every gun-related death is a preventable death.
We also know that behind the terrible statistics – 2,500 children were killed by gun violence last year alone – are families like ours: families torn apart, reliving their worst nightmares day after day; families hoping their child didn’t suffer and agonizing over what they might have done; families determined to spare others their unspeakable loss.
Sandy Hook Promise spoke at length with three of those families. We captured these conversations on film, producing a short documentary that is equal parts chilling, sad, and frustrating – because each of these tragic deaths might have been prevented if someone had spoken up, securely stored their firearm, or known how to recognize and respond to a dangerous situation.
We need as many people as possible to watch and share this short documentary so that we as parents, grandparents, neighbors, and friends can watch for concerning behavior and protect all our children. In honor of our tragic anniversary, please watch and share now – because by raising awareness, you may literally save lives.
Click here to watch our Sandy Hook Promise documentary “What They Left Behind” about the heart-wrenching impact of gun violence on three families and how it may have been prevented. Then, share it with as many friends and loved ones as you can.
Watch the video here (sorry, you’re going to have to cut and paste into your browser (I’m an Electrical Engineer, not a Computer Engineer):
http://www2.sandyhookpromise.org/
As our own Mark Barden, Daniel’s father, says in the film, our responsibility as parents transcends our own children; we also need to look out for our neighbors and their children. Sometimes a voice from outside will notice and bring light to something almost too close for a family to see.
This is why, despite tragedy after tragedy and statistics that keep rising, there is hope: There is something – many things – we can do to stop this awful epidemic and make lasting change.
Sandy Hook Promise’s Say Something program empowers parents and children to speak up if they see a threat. Our Know The Signs program is giving schools and communities the tools to spot problems before tragedies occur. And our Keep It Safe & Secure program is working to keep firearms locked up and out of the hands of children and teens.
In other words, we’re not willing to throw up our hands and say the problem is just too big or simply accept regular heartbreak as the norm – and we know you’re not either.
So please, watch “What They Left Behind” now and help spread the word so we can prevent future tragedies.
Please hug the children in your life extra tight this Sunday – as I will – and keep safe this holiday season. And if you’re at all concerned by anything you see, say something. It’s the single best thing you can do as a friend, as a neighbor, and as a parent.
Thank you so much for your continued love and support – it truly means the world to all of us at Sandy Hook Promise.
Sincerely,
Tim Makris
Executive Director
Sandy Hook PromiseDonate
December 12, 2014 at 6:51 pm #13753TSRFParticipantActually, the link works. It didn’t until I hit “submit” on the post.
January 4, 2015 at 12:25 pm #15506TSRFParticipantWell, we made it through 12/14, Christmas and New Years. It helped that I’ve been off work the last two weeks.
My daughter did get to see somebody and was diagnosed with PTSD. The hope is that with therapy, she’ll be able to learn how to recognize the panic attacks for what they are and learn how to control them. Fortunately or unfortunately, she won’t have a problem finding a support group in Boston…She’s been home for over two weeks without an incident, so I’m hopeful the worst is over.
My son has come to terms with his asshole teacher. He’s been putting more effort into his homework for Middle Eastern studies than it deserves, but he’s gotten 10 out of 10 on his last three homework’s and now has a 92 average (meanwhile, he has a 97 in physics with less effort; go figure). His new hang up is that he’ll never get better at the trumpet because his mouth is the wrong shape. He can consistently hit and hold a high B Flat and he’s only 15, so I don’t think there is a problem there but we are going to get him a professional teacher (he’s been taking lessons with the same guy since 5th grade, I think he has outgrown him). I wonder, though, if my son has the same issue as my daughter, but his coping mechanism is to find something to be angry about.
I lost an old friend recently. I went to the funeral yesterday. I hadn’t seen him in about 25 years, but we had gone through 8 years of Catholic grade school (yes, nuns) and 4 years of Jesuit high school together. I loved him like a brother, meaning I despised him about 50% of the time, tolerated him about 25% and actually enjoyed his company about 25%. Most of the really bad things I’ve done, free base, angel dust, LSD, I did with him. I was lucky to break away from that by my second year of college, mainly because I had to pass a drug test for a co-op job, but I guess he never stopped. Well, until now. 50 is way too young. Shine on, Joe.
Here’s to a better, happier, healthier, safer new year for all.
Matt
January 5, 2015 at 6:48 pm #15582DakParticipantGood to hear that your daughter has received some therapy for her PTSD. Panic attacks are no joke. My mother was paralyzed by them, and they had nothing to do with PTSD. She’s on anti-anxiety meds now, and much, much better.
January 6, 2015 at 2:50 am #15602znModeratorHave a good new year Matt. Brighter things are ahead, I;m sure.
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