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    In reply to: draft talk (April)

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    Rams vertically stacked Board

    Basically what happens with an NFL stacked draft board, scouts,coaches and the FO get together and go through players and 1st stack them by position (which I did) then overall regardless of position (which I also did) then they shave off names that don’t fit. Then they stack according to need and depth of class and obviously talent and lastly, scheme and lockerroom fit. I think most teams are now doing a horizontal board, but it just doesn’t work on a message board format, so this will have to do.

    I ended up with 150 names, which is a bit much, but without having any idea what they are looking for as far as ILBers or Edge, it added a bunch of names. As did the WRs, since we have no idea what they are looking for and how deep the class is. As far as RBs, if they can fit into an outside zone scheme, they were included, as far as OL, if you can zone block inside or out, you got in. Any questions feel free to ask. FWIW my 1st stacked board had 6 of 11 players and 1 UDFA. So not bad. last year I got 5 of 8 correct, and 4 of the first 5. Missed on Gaines, Allen and Scott. So here you go, ask any questions you may have.

    1. Cesar Ruiz – IOL – Michigan – 6′-3″ 307 lbs. – Zone or man, excellent pass blocker, can play OG or OC. Best combo of size/strength and athletic ability in the IOL group. I like him as a Zone scheme OC.

    2. D’Andre Swift – RB – Georgia – 5′-8″ 212 lbs. – Bellcow back with excellent footwork and balance, HR speed and can catch passes. Not a between the tackles type.

    3. Laviska Shenault Jr. – WR – Colorado – 6′-1″ 227 lbs. – A physical, workhorse that just punishes defenders in the open field. Injuries are a concern.

    4. Josh Jones – OT – Houston – 6′-5″ 319 lbs. – Super athlete with great feet, decent anchor that would work best in a zone scheme. Not the dog the top 4 are, but still will get after it.

    5. Zack Baun – Edge – Wisconsin – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – A bit smaller edge, but he is smart, relentless and refined. Will have trouble against the run due to size. I think he works best as a LBer you move around inside early, out late.

    6. Lloyd Cushenberry – IOL – LSU – 6′-3″ 312 lbs. – Another OG/OC candidate. Strong and tough, not as mobile as the other top OCs. Really improved over the year.

    7. Denzel Mims – WR – Baylor – 6′-3″ 207 lbs. – Big, strong with decent speed. He can go up and get it. A real 50/50 ball stud. Lacks any real route running.

    8. JK Dobbins – RB – Ohio State – 5′-9″ 210 lbs. – Inside out back that can catch passes, extremely tough after first contact and can go the distance. I wish he was a tad bigger.

    9. Justin Jefferson – WR – LSU – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Good route runner, good hands, good speed, good blocker. Not explosive, but gets open, makes catches and scores.

    10. Brandon Aiyuk – WR – Arizona State – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Another big play waiting to happen. Can take the top off the defense and is slippery in the open field. Not a very nuanced route runner, hands are OK.

    11. Terrell Lewis – Alabama – 6′-5″ 262 lbs. – Another high ceiling guy with injury history. Loooong levered. Smooth. Stong. 34 Edge

    12. Jonathan Taylor – RB – Wisconsin – 5′-10″ 226 lbs.– A workhorse back with HR speed and excellent vision. Pass catching is his worst trait, and its fine.

    13. Tee Higgins – WR – Clemson – 6′-4″ 216 lbs. – a highpoint, catch radius WR that wins at all levels of the field, but is at his best winning 50/50. Good, not great speed.

    14. Jalen Reagor – WR – Arizona State – 5′-11′ 206 lbs. – He’s a jittery HR hitter that is electric deep or in the open field. His hands are iffy IMO, or he’d be higher on my list.

    15. Clyde Edwards-Helaire – RB – LSU – 5′-7″ 207 lbs. – An easy mover with a powerful lower half. May lack the size to handle a full NFL load.

    16. Austin Jackson – OT – USC – 6′-5″ 322 lbs. – Lost time/strength due to helping his sister with a medical issue. He may need a year, but a full toolbox with a good balance of strength and agility.

    17. K.J. Hamler – WR – Penn State – 5′-9″ 178 lbs. – Electrifying. In the open field as dangerous as any WR in the draft. Hands can be iffy, and he is small, but a HR hitter and someone a defense needs to plan for.

    18. Lucas Niang – OT – TCU – 6′-6″ 315 lbs. – Another nice power/athletic combo blocker that plays with a nice edge. Injury slowed him some, and needs to get consistent.

    19. Jordyn Brooks – LB – Texas Tech – 6′-1″ 240 lbs. – An absolute heat seeking missile that is devastating going downhill, lacks pass coverage reps. Sideline to sideline.

    20. Van Jefferson – WR – Florida – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – A route running technician, good hands and is OK in the open field. Not explosive and not what I would call a HR threat.

    21. Marlon Davidson – IDL – Auburn – 6′-3″ 303 lbs. – 3T or 34 DE. I like him as a penetrating DE in a 34 that can also hold his own against the run. Big time motor.

    22. Michael Pittman Jr. – WR – USC – 6′-4″ 223 lbs – Another physical WR that is starting to put everything together. Not a burner, but a good athlete with a great work ethic. A big Robert Woods.

    23. Donovan Peoples-Jones – WR – Michigan – 6′-2″ 212 lbs. – Good hands and an excellent athlete. Underused in that woeful Mich. offense. He is more of a projection due to lack of production.

    24. Matt Hennessy – IOL – Temple – 6′-4″ 307 lbs. – A OZS OC that is an excellent mover with great technique. Needs to get stronger, but IQ and skill set are outstanding. Reminds me of Garrett Bradbury.

    25. Julian Okwara – Edge – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 252 lbs. – A 34 Edge with a nice blend of explosiveness and flexibility. Needs to get stronger against the run.

    26. Jonathan Greenard – Edge – Florida – 6′-4″ 263 lbs. – I just love his athletic ability, balance against the run and pass and supposedly a hard worker off the field. Not the most flexible, but his length and strength make up for it. high floor, lower ceiling type.

    27. Curtis Weaver – Edge – Boise St. – 6′-3″ 265 lbs. – He could either be a 43 or 34. Lacks an ideal athletic profile, but has a hot motor, a good first step, active hands and handles his own against the run. Another high floor, lower ceiling type.

    28. Cam Akers – RB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 217 lbs. – Another feature back buried on a horrible offense. Does a little of everything., but he’s a downhill 1 cut style power back at his best.

    29. Kyle Dugger – S – Lenoir-Rhyne – 6′-1″ 217 lbs. – Small school kid. Great size and athletic profile that can play free or strong. Excellent blitzer and played really well at the Senior Bowl. Will need some coaching.

    30. Jeremy Chinn – S – Southern Illinois – 6′-3″ 221 lbs. – Simmons-lite in a safety body. he could be a LBer a S or an edge rusher with crazy athleticism. Love his physicality and the fact that he is always around the ball.

    31. Josh Uche – Edge – Michigan – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – Smaller edge that will have issues against the run. but he is a flexy, bursty little dude that is also good in space.

    32. Zack Moss – RB – Utah – 5′-9″ 223 lbs. – A big, bigtime power back with some wiggle to him. Hard to bring down. I like his footwork. Not a HR hitter and a 1 cut and go type back.

    33. Jonah Jackson – IOL – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 306 lbs. – A technician with decent strength that can play anywhere on the inside. Needs to be more consistent. Plays with an edge.

    34. Akeem Davis-Gaither – LB – Appalachian St. – 6′-2″ 224 lbs. – Highly productive WILL that plays fast, can cover and rush the QB. I like him outside in a 43, but maybe a MO in a 34…

    35. Chase Claypool – WR – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 238 lbs. – A big possession WR, that wins contested catches, 50-50 balls and is tough in the redzone. Tested better then he plays, but is still a great athlete.

    36. Bradlee Anae – Edge – Utah – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Can rush the passer and hold his own against the run, excellent hand fighter, with a top-notch motor. Not the greatest athlete. 43 or 34 compatable.

    37. Robert Hunt – IOL – Louisiana-Lafayette – 6′-5″ 323 lbs. – 2nd nastiest OG in the draft. He is a punisher. Needs to be a little more patient, but he will finish on all levels.

    38. Malik Harrison – LB – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Old school type MLBer that stuffs the run and plugs gaps. Quick to react, strong and will drop the hammer. Too stiff to contribute in a lot of coverage.

    39. Brycen Hopkins – TE – Purdue – 6′-4″ 245 lbs. – Your prototypical new age TE. A mismatch problem in the middle of the field that is a smooth, easy mover. Not an inline blocker, I worry a bit about his hands.

    40. Prince Tega Wanogho – OT – Auburn – 6′-5″ 308 lbs. – Surprise, an athletic, raw skilled LT from Auburn. He has elite tools, but needs a year learning and gaining strength.

    41. Leki Fotu – IDL – Utah – 6′-4″ 330 lbs. – A monster NT with a little pass rush juice to him. Good motor and is almost impossible to move. Not the athletic freak Lawrence was last year.

    42. Ben Bartch – OT – St. Johns (MN) – 6′-6″ 309 lbs. – Small School prospect that held his own at Senior Bowl. TE turned OT. Athletic with a nice anchor, he needs seasoning. Arm length probably moves him inside.

    43. Eno Benjamin – RB – Arizona State – 5′-9″ 207 lbs. – Physical for his size, smooth lower half and can be slippery to tackle. Change of pace back only.

    44. Matt Peart – OT – Connecticut – 6′-7″ 318 lbs. – An easy moving OT with decent strength that again, could use a year or 2 learning and adding power, but there is no denying the skills are there.

    45. Tyler Biadasz – IOL – Wisconsin – 6′-4″ 314 lbs. – OC for any scheme. Excellent mover with a great anchor and good strength. Off season hip surgery slowed him down last season. Followed by shoulder surgery this off season. Could be a heck of a steal.

    46. Raekwon Davis – IDL – Alabama – 6′-7″ 311 lbs. – a 34 DE, because he will get out-leveraged on the inside. powerful with a solid anchor against the run, pass rush potential is there, but never developed.

    47. Albert Okwuegbunam – TE – Missouri – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – Big target with enough athletic ability to create issues in the seam. A decent and willing blocker inline. Offense and QB really slowed down his progression.

    48. Bryan Edwards – WR – South Carolina – 6′-3″ 212 lbs. – He wins with his size and physicality in the middle of the field. Not a burner, but plays hard and smart.

    49. Darnay Holmes – CB – UCLA – 5′-10″ 195 lbs.– Smooth and quick are his calling cards. I wish he was more aggressive. off man or zone scheme fit.

    50. Troy Dye – LB – Oregon – 6′-4″ 231 lbs. – Another see ball, chase ball LBer that needs to add strength. But he makes plays all over the field.

    51.Kenny Robinson – S – XFL – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – A ballhawking single high Safety that needs development, but has a real nice athletic profile and flashes elite ball skills.

    52. Thaddeus Moss – TE – LSU – 6′-2″ 250 lbs. – Not the freakish athlete his dad was, but is a monster in the blocking game, is a nuanced route runner and knows how to get open. Competes hard.

    53. Cole Kmet – TE – Notre Dame – 6′-6″ 263 lbs. – Another size mismatch with decent athleticism. Should be a better blocker then he is. Good hands, decent route runner.

    54. Adam Troutman – TE – Dayton – 6′-5″ 255 lbs. – Exciting athlete that is new to being a TE. Extremely productive, but a raw skill set including route running. A plus blocker.

    55. Darrell Taylor – Edge – Tennessee – 6′-4″ 267 lbs. – Good athlete, with plenty of flex, decent get off and enough size to hold up against the run. hasn’t put it all together. High upside, high bust potential.

    56. Nick Harris – IOL – Washington – 6′-1″ 302 lbs. – Smaller, smooth moving OC that lacks the power to go heads up against any kind of power. Good technique. Zone scheme only.

    57. Saahdiq Charles – OT – LSU – 6′-4″ 321 lbs. – A smooth mover with good athleticism, but lacks power. A move inside might be in his future. zone scheme prospect.

    58. Logan Stenberg – IOL – Kentucky – 6′-6″ 317 lbs. – Meanest, nastiest OG in the draft. Won’t win on style points and will talk your ear off. Not a great athlete.

    59. Ezra Cleveland – OT – Boise State – 6′-6″ 311 lbs. – Absolute athlete for his size/length. Real smooth mover with light feet. Needs to add strength and needs technique work. I’d say an OZS LT right now.

    60. Willie Gay Jr. – LB – Miss. St. – 6′-2″ 243 lbs. – Athletic and quick, will pop you in the mouth. And he did punch his own QB in the face, so there is that. Could be a 3 down ILBer with some seasoning.

    61. Terrell Burgess – S – Utah – 5′-11″ 202 lbs. – He’s an exciting athlete with good speed and a bigtime motor. Lack of size might be an issue.

    62. Larrell Murchison – IDL – NC State – 6′-2″ 297 lbs. – A nose for the ball with a great motor. Not the rangiest 3 tech, but he will apply constant pressure.

    63. Brandon Jones – S – Texas – 5′-11″ 198 lbs. – A smaller, tad more rangy version of Brooks. He is a thumper with an all-day motor, and a nose for the ball.

    64. Jordan Elliott – IDL – Missouri – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Strong and bursty, he can cause havoc in the backfield. Easy mover with excellent hands. Not the fastest off the snap, timing issues slow him down.

    65. Tyler Johnson – WR – Minnesota – 6′-1″ 206 lbs. – A nuanced route runner that knows how to get open. Plays with some physicality. I question his speed and he didn’t run so…

    66. Netane Muti – IOL – Fresno St. – 6′-3″ 315 lbs. – Skill set, power and movement ability should have him as the top IOL in the draft. he can flat out dominate. And looks to dominate you. Cannot stay healthy. Serious medical red flags.

    67. AJ Dillon – RB – Boston College – 6′-0″ 247 lbs. – A bigger bodied back with more speed than one would think. A gap power fit. Loses a lot when stretched out east to west.

    68. Ben Bredeson – IOL – Michigan – 6′-5″ 315 lbs. – A LG prospect I love that has played in Gap/man/OSZ at Mich so he is versatile. Decent mover with good balance and very good power that looks to finish blocks.

    69. Amik Robertson – CB – Louisiana Tech – 5′-8″ 187 lbs. – slot corner due to his size. But he is a mean, physical little dude that will bring the fight to you.

    70. Lamical Perine – RB – Florida – 5′-11″ 216 lbs. – A patient power back with just enough juice to get to the house. Enough wiggle to get outside, but is at his best working north to south.

    71. Jabari Zuniga – Edge – Florida – 6′-3″ 253 lbs. – Decent burst, OK against the run, good athlete with range. Another boom bust prospect.

    72. Kenny Willekes – Edge – Michigan State – 6′-4″ 264 lbs. – Relentless, tough, strong, try hard with average athletic ability for the position. I think due to that he is a 43 DE.

    73. Alex Highsmith – Edge – Charlotte – 6′-4″ 248 lbs. – Dynamic athlete off the edge with plenty of range, good flexibility and a great motor. Not the sturdiest run defender. 34 Edge.

    74. Logan Wilson – LB – Wyoming – 6′-2″ 241 lbs. – A easy flowing downhill ILBer with average athletic ability, plays with smarts and under control. Don’t think he has the range to cover on passing downs. 2 Down ILBer.

    75. Anthony McFarland – RB – Maryland – 5′-8″ 208 lbs. – An undersized, raw talented HR threat from anywhere on the field. Not a 3 down guy.

    76. Shaquille Quarterman – LB – Miami – 6′-1″ 234 lbs. – A real old school MLBer that reads, reacts and then thumps. I think he moves well enough to help in some coverage.

    77. Antonio Gibson – RB – Memphis – 6′-1″ 223 lbs. – A wr/rb/do it all back with home run ability. Elusive with a bit of power. A jack of all trades, master of none.

    78. Evan Weaver – LB – California – 6′-2″ 237 lbs. – Not the world’s greatest athlete, but he is so instinctual he’s always around the ball. Super productive. Not a hammer and not great in coverage.

    79. David Woodward – LB – Utah State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. -Not fast or super athletic, but he is smart, instinctual and has a big motor. He is everywhere. ILB

    80. Ke’Shawn Vaughn – RB – Vanderbilt – 5′-10″ 214 lbs. – Decent vision with good balance and ok speed. Good pass catcher. Lacks wiggle and not explosive.

    81. Quintez Cephus – WR – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Wisconsin – Big strong physical. Good route runner that can get himself open. Lacks deep speed. Faced 2 counts of sexual assault, case was dismissed.

    82. Jason Strowbridge – IDL – North Carolina – 6′-4″ 275 lbs. – A gap jumper that lacks the size to hold his ground against double teams. Once he is into gaps, causes issues for the offense. A 34 DE or 43 DE is his future.

    83. Alton Robinson – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 264 lbs. – A toolbox full of length, athletic ability, bend and explosiveness. Decent against the run. Just needs to put it all together. 34 Edge with a high ceiling.

    84. Joe Bachie Jr. – LB – Michigan State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. – a ILB with good instincts and decent range. Will pop you in the mouth when given the chance. Probably a 2 down ILBer in the NFL. Steroid suspension…

    85. Joshua Kelley – RB – UCLA – 5′-11″ 212 lbs. – Strong, tough with good balance and hard to bring down, but lacks wiggle and HR speed. A one cut and go type of back.

    86. Lynn Bowden – WR – Kentucky – 5′-11″ 204 lbs. – a gadget WR that can play RB and QB (wildcat) A real team guy that you will need to game plan to get the ball in his hands as he learns to be a slot WR.

    87. Colby Parkinson – TE – Stanford – 6′-7 252 lbs. – Big with a big wingspan, he will torture defenders in the middle of the field and the endzone. Not a great blocker and needs to get stronger.

    88. Antonio Gandy-Golden – WR – Liberty – 6′-4″ 223 lbs. – Crazy catches are littered throughout his highlights. Outstanding catch radius combined with flypaper hands make him a bigtime contested and 50-50 ball receiver. Not a great athlete or burner.

    89. Darrynton Evans – RB – Appalachian State – 5′-10″ 203 lbs. – Lightning in a bottle. His change of direction and lateral jump cuts will have defenders tackling air. HR speed. Narrow frame with little room for growth. Better outside then inside. OZS committee back.

    90. J.R. Reed – S – Georgia – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – An old school SS that works best moving forward as he doesn’t have the foot speed to be ultra rangy.

    91. Harrison Bryant – TE -Florida Atlantic – 6′-5″ 243 lbs. – Athletic with good hands and is a good route runner. He isn’t a blocker. His calling card is in the middle of the field.

    92. Javelin Guidry – CB – Utah – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – Quick, oily and super fast. Size is going to limit him to slot/nickel/dime work.

    93. Hakeem Adeniji – OT – Kansas – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Another smaller LT that moves well and could slide into a zone scheme easily. needs to add power.

    94. Jacob Breeland – TE – Oregon – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – An average at best athlete, but plays with an edge and isn’t afraid of contact. Good hands and can get deep. Decent inline blocker.

    95. Geno Stone – S – Iowa – 5′-10″ 207 lbs. – Another kid from Iowa with smarts, instincts and lacks a big athletic profile. Works best in the box or zone coverage.

    96. Markus Bailey – LB – Purdue – 6′-1″ 235 lbs. – A Kiser clone in the fact that he is a smart. between the tackles, run stopping machine. Not enough athletic ability or speed to cover against the pass. 2019 knee injury muddies his water. 2 down ILB.

    97. Josiah Deguara – TE – Cincinnati – 6′-2″ 242 lbs. – Good inline blocker regardless his size, is also a good route runner and pass catcher. Not a tremendous athlete, but is first team try hard TE. A balanced TE.

    98. Gabriel Davis – WR – UCF – 6′-2″ 216 lbs. – Exciting athlete with decent speed and plays with a bit of an edge. hands are meh, and he didn’t run a ton of different routes.

    99. D.J. Wonnum – Edge – South Carolina – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – An above average athlete that can do a little of everything, but isn’t great at any one thing. Perfect size for 34 Edge with a great motor.

    100. Justin Strnad – LB – Wake Forest – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – Smooth moving forward and backward, can run and cover and go sideline to sideline. Would rather run around blockers then stack and shed. Still learning the nuances so his arrow is pointing up. ILBer in an odd front or WILL in an even front.

    101. Myles Bryant – CB – Washington – 5′-8″ 183 lbs. – another slot CB, plays faster than he ran, explosive movement skills.

    102. Lamar Jackson – CB – Nebraska – 6′-2″ 208 lbs. – Big, long and physical. Speed will give him issues. Press man CB.

    103. Julian Blackmon – S – Utah – 6′-0″ 187 lbs. – Fun kid on tape. Plenty of speed and range, great physicality, but at the same time, not a tremendous athlete.

    104. Devin Duvernay – WR – Texas – 5′-10″ 200 lbs. – a speed demon that would rather run you over then around you. A RB in a WRs body. A smart OC can do alot of stuff with this kid. Small catch radius.

    105. Essang Bassey – CB – Wake Forest – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – a nickel/slot CB that gets after it and is a smooth enough athlete to mirror really well.

    106. Charlie Heck – OT – North Carolina – 6′-8″ 311 lbs. – As Alyo has stated, the son of a coach. Smart, good technique and excellent length. Needs to add some weight and power. Great developmental type of L/RT.

    107. James Lynch – IDL – Baylor – 6′-4″ 289 lbs. – Monster sack production from a guy with not a ton of athletic ability. Not twitchy and not explosive. Just average strength. Really just wins on an all-day motor and a give ’em hell attitude.

    108. Trevis Gipson – Edge – Tulsa – 6′-4″ 261 lbs. – an easy mover with decent burst and good flexibility. Can get bullied against the run. Developmental 34 Edge.

    109. A.J. Green – CB – Oklahoma State – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Physical CB, sometimes too physical. Decent speed and a decent athletic profile.

    110. Jalen Elliott – S – Notre Dame – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Slow, moderate athlete, but man he loves to blow up ball carriers. IMO a box safety or a big nickel LBer.

    111. Mitchell Wilcox- TE – South Florida – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Hard working combo TE that had good production, but won’t wow you as an athlete. I worry a bit about his hands.

    112. Trevon Hill – Edge – Miami – 6′-3″ 248 lbs. – Athletic, bursty edge with a nice pass rush. Needs to add weight to handle the run. Pass rush specialist early. 34 Edge.

    113. Josiah Scott – CB – Michigan State – 5′-9″ 185 lbs. – A nickel back with good speed and decent toughness for his size. Good ball skills. Too small to survive on the outside.

    114. Myles Dorn – S – North Carolina – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – A decent all-around S with good work in the box and some solid pass defense stats. His lack of speed may limit his upside.

    115. Kendall Coleman – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Average athlete that is really still developing his skill set. Good motor and plays with nice physicality. Needs to be developed. Developmental 34 Edge.

    116. Jake Hanson – IOL – Oregon – 6′-4″ 303 lbs. – A zone scheme OC. A technician and good athlete, lacks the strength to trade power with defenders.

    117. Mykal Walker – LB – Fresno State – 6′-3″ 230 lbs. – Has played DE, Edge and ILB. So, he is a movable chess pc. I like him as an ILB in an odd front. Certainly knows how to blitz, can drop into coverage and will stick his nose in the fan in run support. Needs development time, due to so many position changes.

    118. Lavert Hill – CB – Michigan – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – A hard-nosed press man. Lacks speed to stay with the fast WRs. Might work inside. Man only.

    119. – Michael Warren II – RB – Cincinnati – 5′-9″ 226 lbs. – Decent feet for his build (a bowling ball) with good power and contact balance. Not making you miss and isn’t a HR hitter. Another short yardage back IMO.

    120. Tanner Muse – S – Clemson – 6′-2″ 227 lbs. – A big S, maybe a LBer…4.41 speed, can play deep due to his speed and athleticism, can play in the box due to his size. Never put it all together for his profile.

    121. Aaron Parker – WR – Rhode Island – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – A good blend of physicality combines with his ability to go up and get it makes him a contested catch monster. He needs to develop his route running.

    122. Kyle Murphy – IOL – Rhode Island – 6′-3″ 316 lbs. – Overpowered FCS competition, needs to add size and power to do that at the NFL level. He’s an easy mover with good footwork. Scheme versatile.

    123. Joe Reed – WR – Virginia – 6′-0″ 224 lbs. – A deep threat with good hands and can return in STs. Has some wiggle. Another gadget kid early as he learns to run routes properly.

    124. Stephen Sullivan – TE – LSU – 6′-5″ 248 lbs. – Massive seam buster that got lost in the shuffle of an all star offense. Long, middle of the field mismatch. Not a tremendous blocker.

    125. Benito Jones – IDL – Ole Miss – 6′-1″ 316 lbs. – a fire hydrant with very good strength. Won’t slide thru gaps but holds more than his own against the run. A true NT with a little pass rush push.

    126. Jaylinn Hawkins – S – California – 6′-1″ 208 lbs. – Smart, physical with some range. Not a ton and won’t wow you going sideline to sideline. Decent ball skills, but he has room for improvement.

    127. Davion Taylor – LB – Colorado – 6′-1″ 228 lbs. – Late comer to football. Kid is a PAC 12 track star, so he can fly, great athlete, smooth mover. Great motor. Needs to get stronger and needs massive development. WILL or ILB in a 34.

    128. Kyahva Tezino – LB – San Diego State – 6′-0″ 235 lbs. – Plays the run well, decent athlete that can get to the sidelines and plays with patience and intelligence. Lacks length and quickness.

    129 Devin Asiasi – TE – UCLA – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – a combo blocker/receiver with good size for the position. Needs technical work in all aspects. Developmental type traditional TE.

    130. Dalton Keene – TE – Virginia Tech – 6′-4″ 253 lbs. – Here is your late round, H-back, fullback, TE. He can block and catch but was never really given much opportunity. Decent athlete, but plays like an old school TE.

    131. Kindle Vildor – CB – Georgia Southern – 5′-10″ 191 lbs. – Ballhawking athletic CB with the size and footwork to work in any scheme. Not great in run support. Can be over-aggressive.

    132. Stephen Guidry – WR – Mississippi State – 6′-3″ 201 lbs. – Long with long arms and decent deep speed. Can go up and get it, or win over the top. Not a great route runner.

    133. Justin Herron – OT – Wake Forest – 6′-4″ 308 lbs. – A OG in the NFL. Good pass blocker with decent footwork, has trouble trading power in the run game. Zone scheme OG.

    134. Reggie Robinson II – CB – Tulsa – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Long with decent athletic profile, does his best work in a zone and things are in front of him. Nice production. Modest athlete.

    135. Tyrie Cleveland – WR – Florida – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – Long and fast. Never ran a diverse route tree, but he can eat up a DB in a hurry. Will need some development.

    136. Jon Runyan – OT – Michigan – 6′-4″ 306 lbs. – I think he moves inside to OG. Son of an NFL OT. So he is smart. Good athlete but lacks strength. zone scheme OG.

    137. Tipa Galea’i – EDGE – Utah State – 6′-5″ 235 lbs. – An explosive, oily, easy mover. Needs to add mass if he wants to hold up against the run.

    138. Nigel Warrior – S – Tennessee – 6′-0″ 190 lbs. – Vols played him everywhere from what I saw. So he can do some of everything. Good athlete, good run defender for hsi size. Lack of ball production is a concern.

    139. Nevelle Clarke – CB – UCF – 6′-1″ 190 lbs. – I called him a mini Ramsey. Plays with a swagger and a ballhawks mentality. Great size for a CB. Easy mover. Needs to add strength and some weight to reach his full potential.

    140. James Proche – WR – SMU – 5′-11″ 201 lbs. – Natural hands and just catches everything. Smooth athlete, with great college production. Not a burner. Needs to work on route running.

    141. Cameron Brown – LB – Penn State – 6′-5″ 233 lbs. – Long for a LBer. Also raw. Can cover a ton of ground quickly and goes sideline to sideline. Not great in coverage. Not sure his position fit. 43 OLB or maybe add 15-20 lbs and make him a 34 edge?

    142. Sean McKeon – TE – Michigan – 6′-5″ 242 lbs. – A combo TE that can block in line and be used as a pass catcher. Not the most dynamic route runner, or athlete, but he competes hard. Good 3rd TE for a roster.

    143. Quez Watkins – WR – Southern Miss – 6′-0″ 185 lbs. – Will take the top off a defense. No idea how to run a route, gets open from DBs being scared of being ran by. Electric in the open field. Needs to add some good weight.

    144. Grayland Arnold – CB – Baylor – 5′-9″ 186 lbs. – Nickel CB with great ball production. Smooth lower body makes him sticky, has a ballhawk mentality. Lacks size to hold up on the outside.

    145. Charlie Taumoepeau – TE – Portland State – 6′-2″ 240 lbs. – Literally a move TE. He played H-back, RB, TE, WR for Portland State. So he can block and catch and be a nice depth piece. Nothing athletically extrordinary.

    146. Levonta Taylor – CB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – a CB turned safety, smooth lower half and good speed and lack of strength make him an ideal zone fit, either as a nickel or S. had back problems in the past.

    147. Mohamed Barry – LB – Nebraska – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – A bull in a china shop ILBer with sideline to sideline athleticism. Tough and strong just kinda running around out there hitting things and overrunning other things…

    148. John Reid – CB – Penn State – 5′-10″ 187 lbs. – A physical press man CB that due to lack of size will end up being a Nickel Back. Average speed to match his average athletic ability.

    149. Jordan Fuller – S – Ohio State – 6′-2″ 203 lbs. – A single high safety that is too slow to play single high in the NFL IMO. Racked up a ton of tackles and loves to hit. I like him as a depth/3rd safety with plenty of upside in the box.

    150. Derrek Tuszka – Edge – North Dakota St. – 6′-5″ 251 lbs. – A 43 end that will transition to a standup 34 edge. Tough, strong and can hold up vs the run. Great pass rush production. Decent athlete, but lacks flexibility to bend around the edge.

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    1. Cesar Ruiz – IOL – Michigan – 6′-3″ 307 lbs. – Zone or man, excellent pass blocker, can play OG or OC. Best combo of size/strength and athletic ability in the IOL group. I like him as a Zone scheme OC.

    2. D’Andre Swift – RB – Georgia – 5′-8″ 212 lbs. – Bellcow back with excellent footwork and balance, HR speed and can catch passes. Not a between the tackles type.

    3. Laviska Shenault Jr. – WR – Colorado – 6′-1″ 227 lbs. – A physical, workhorse that just punishes defenders in the open field. Injuries are a concern.

    4. Josh Jones – OT – Houston – 6′-5″ 319 lbs. – Super athlete with great feet, decent anchor that would work best in a zone scheme. Not the dog the top 4 are, but still will get after it.

    5. Zack Baun – Edge – Wisconsin – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – A bit smaller edge, but he is smart, relentless and refined. Will have trouble against the run due to size. I think he works best as a LBer you move around inside early, out late.

    6. Lloyd Cushenberry – IOL – LSU – 6′-3″ 312 lbs. – Another OG/OC candidate. Strong and tough, not as mobile as the other top OCs. Really improved over the year.

    7. Denzel Mims – WR – Baylor – 6′-3″ 207 lbs. – Big, strong with decent speed. He can go up and get it. A real 50/50 ball stud. Lacks any real route running.

    8. JK Dobbins – RB – Ohio State – 5′-9″ 210 lbs. – Inside out back that can catch passes, extremely tough after first contact and can go the distance. I wish he was a tad bigger.

    9. Justin Jefferson – WR – LSU – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Good route runner, good hands, good speed, good blocker. Not explosive, but gets open, makes catches and scores.

    10. Brandon Aiyuk – WR – Arizona State – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Another big play waiting to happen. Can take the top off the defense and is slippery in the open field. Not a very nuanced route runner, hands are OK.

    11. Terrell Lewis – Alabama – 6′-5″ 262 lbs. – Another high ceiling guy with injury history. Loooong levered. Smooth. Stong. 34 Edge

    12. Jonathan Taylor – RB – Wisconsin – 5′-10″ 226 lbs.- A workhorse back with HR speed and excellent vision. Pass catching is his worst trait, and its fine.

    13. Tee Higgins – WR – Clemson – 6′-4″ 216 lbs. – a highpoint, catch radius WR that wins at all levels of the field, but is at his best winning 50/50. Good, not great speed.

    14. Jalen Reagor – WR – Arizona State – 5′-11′ 206 lbs. – He’s a jittery HR hitter that is electric deep or in the open field. His hands are iffy IMO, or he’d be higher on my list.

    15. Clyde Edwards-Helaire – RB – LSU – 5′-7″ 207 lbs. – An easy mover with a powerful lower half. May lack the size to handle a full NFL load.

    16. Austin Jackson – OT – USC – 6′-5″ 322 lbs. – Lost time/strength due to helping his sister with a medical issue. He may need a year, but a full toolbox with a good balance of strength and agility.

    17. K.J. Hamler – WR – Penn State – 5′-9″ 178 lbs. – Electrifying. In the open field as dangerous as any WR in the draft. Hands can be iffy, and he is small, but a HR hitter and someone a defense needs to plan for.

    18. Lucas Niang – OT – TCU – 6′-6″ 315 lbs. – Another nice power/athletic combo blocker that plays with a nice edge. Injury slowed him some, and needs to get consistent.

    19. Jordyn Brooks – LB – Texas Tech – 6′-1″ 240 lbs. – An absolute heat seeking missile that is devastating going downhill, lacks pass coverage reps. Sideline to sideline.

    20. Van Jefferson – WR – Florida – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – A route running technician, good hands and is OK in the open field. Not explosive and not what I would call a HR threat.

    21. Marlon Davidson – IDL – Auburn – 6′-3″ 303 lbs. – 3T or 34 DE. I like him as a penetrating DE in a 34 that can also hold his own against the run. Big time motor.

    22. Michael Pittman Jr. – WR – USC – 6′-4″ 223 lbs – Another physical WR that is starting to put everything together. Not a burner, but a good athlete with a great work ethic. A big Robert Woods.

    23. Donovan Peoples-Jones – WR – Michigan – 6′-2″ 212 lbs. – Good hands and an excellent athlete. Underused in that woeful Mich. offense. He is more of a projection due to lack of production.

    24. Matt Hennessy – IOL – Temple – 6′-4″ 307 lbs. – A OZS OC that is an excellent mover with great technique. Needs to get stronger, but IQ and skill set are outstanding. Reminds me of Garrett Bradbury.

    25. Julian Okwara – Edge – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 252 lbs. – A 34 Edge with a nice blend of explosiveness and flexibility. Needs to get stronger against the run.

    26. Jonathan Greenard – Edge – Florida – 6′-4″ 263 lbs. – I just love his athletic ability, balance against the run and pass and supposedly a hard worker off the field. Not the most flexible, but his length and strength make up for it. high floor, lower ceiling type.

    27. Curtis Weaver – Edge – Boise St. – 6′-3″ 265 lbs. – He could either be a 43 or 34. Lacks an ideal athletic profile, but has a hot motor, a good first step, active hands and handles his own against the run. Another high floor, lower ceiling type.

    28. Cam Akers – RB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 217 lbs. – Another feature back buried on a horrible offense. Does a little of everything., but he’s a downhill 1 cut style power back at his best.

    29. Kyle Dugger – S – Lenoir-Rhyne – 6′-1″ 217 lbs. – Small school kid. Great size and athletic profile that can play free or strong. Excellent blitzer and played really well at the Senior Bowl. Will need some coaching.

    30. Jeremy Chinn – S – Southern Illinois – 6′-3″ 221 lbs. – Simmons-lite in a safety body. he could be a LBer a S or an edge rusher with crazy athleticism. Love his physicality and the fact that he is always around the ball.

    31. Josh Uche – Edge – Michigan – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – Smaller edge that will have issues against the run. but he is a flexy, bursty little dude that is also good in space.

    32. Zack Moss – RB – Utah – 5′-9″ 223 lbs. – A big, bigtime power back with some wiggle to him. Hard to bring down. I like his footwork. Not a HR hitter and a 1 cut and go type back.

    33. Jonah Jackson – IOL – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 306 lbs. – A technician with decent strength that can play anywhere on the inside. Needs to be more consistent. Plays with an edge.

    34. Akeem Davis-Gaither – LB – Appalachian St. – 6′-2″ 224 lbs. – Highly productive WILL that plays fast, can cover and rush the QB. I like him outside in a 43, but maybe a MO in a 34…

    35. Chase Claypool – WR – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 238 lbs. – A big possession WR, that wins contested catches, 50-50 balls and is tough in the redzone. Tested better then he plays, but is still a great athlete.

    36. Bradlee Anae – Edge – Utah – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Can rush the passer and hold his own against the run, excellent hand fighter, with a top-notch motor. Not the greatest athlete. 43 or 34 compatable.

    37. Robert Hunt – IOL – Louisiana-Lafayette – 6′-5″ 323 lbs. – 2nd nastiest OG in the draft. He is a punisher. Needs to be a little more patient, but he will finish on all levels.

    38. Malik Harrison – LB – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Old school type MLBer that stuffs the run and plugs gaps. Quick to react, strong and will drop the hammer. Too stiff to contribute in a lot of coverage.

    39. Brycen Hopkins – TE – Purdue – 6′-4″ 245 lbs. – Your prototypical new age TE. A mismatch problem in the middle of the field that is a smooth, easy mover. Not an inline blocker, I worry a bit about his hands.

    40. Prince Tega Wanogho – OT – Auburn – 6′-5″ 308 lbs. – Surprise, an athletic, raw skilled LT from Auburn. He has elite tools, but needs a year learning and gaining strength.

    41. Leki Fotu – IDL – Utah – 6′-4″ 330 lbs. – A monster NT with a little pass rush juice to him. Good motor and is almost impossible to move. Not the athletic freak Lawrence was last year.

    42. Ben Bartch – OT – St. Johns (MN) – 6′-6″ 309 lbs. – Small School prospect that held his own at Senior Bowl. TE turned OT. Athletic with a nice anchor, he needs seasoning. Arm length probably moves him inside.

    43. Eno Benjamin – RB – Arizona State – 5′-9″ 207 lbs. – Physical for his size, smooth lower half and can be slippery to tackle. Change of pace back only.

    44. Matt Peart – OT – Connecticut – 6′-7″ 318 lbs. – An easy moving OT with decent strength that again, could use a year or 2 learning and adding power, but there is no denying the skills are there.

    45. Tyler Biadasz – IOL – Wisconsin – 6′-4″ 314 lbs. – OC for any scheme. Excellent mover with a great anchor and good strength. Off season hip surgery slowed him down last season. Followed by shoulder surgery this off season. Could be a heck of a steal.

    46. Raekwon Davis – IDL – Alabama – 6′-7″ 311 lbs. – a 34 DE, because he will get out-leveraged on the inside. powerful with a solid anchor against the run, pass rush potential is there, but never developed.

    47. Albert Okwuegbunam – TE – Missouri – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – Big target with enough athletic ability to create issues in the seam. A decent and willing blocker inline. Offense and QB really slowed down his progression.

    48. Bryan Edwards – WR – South Carolina – 6′-3″ 212 lbs. – He wins with his size and physicality in the middle of the field. Not a burner, but plays hard and smart.

    49. Darnay Holmes – CB – UCLA – 5′-10″ 195 lbs.- Smooth and quick are his calling cards. I wish he was more aggressive. off man or zone scheme fit.

    50. Troy Dye – LB – Oregon – 6′-4″ 231 lbs. – Another see ball, chase ball LBer that needs to add strength. But he makes plays all over the field.

    51.Kenny Robinson – S – XFL – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – A ballhawking single high Safety that needs development, but has a real nice athletic profile and flashes elite ball skills.

    52. Thaddeus Moss – TE – LSU – 6′-2″ 250 lbs. – Not the freakish athlete his dad was, but is a monster in the blocking game, is a nuanced route runner and knows how to get open. Competes hard.

    53. Cole Kmet – TE – Notre Dame – 6′-6″ 263 lbs. – Another size mismatch with decent athleticism. Should be a better blocker then he is. Good hands, decent route runner.

    54. Adam Troutman – TE – Dayton – 6′-5″ 255 lbs. – Exciting athlete that is new to being a TE. Extremely productive, but a raw skill set including route running. A plus blocker.

    55. Darrell Taylor – Edge – Tennessee – 6′-4″ 267 lbs. – Good athlete, with plenty of flex, decent get off and enough size to hold up against the run. hasn’t put it all together. High upside, high bust potential.

    56. Nick Harris – IOL – Washington – 6′-1″ 302 lbs. – Smaller, smooth moving OC that lacks the power to go heads up against any kind of power. Good technique. Zone scheme only.

    57. Saahdiq Charles – OT – LSU – 6′-4″ 321 lbs. – A smooth mover with good athleticism, but lacks power. A move inside might be in his future. zone scheme prospect.

    58. Logan Stenberg – IOL – Kentucky – 6′-6″ 317 lbs. – Meanest, nastiest OG in the draft. Won’t win on style points and will talk your ear off. Not a great athlete.

    59. Ezra Cleveland – OT – Boise State – 6′-6″ 311 lbs. – Absolute athlete for his size/length. Real smooth mover with light feet. Needs to add strength and needs technique work. I’d say an OZS LT right now.

    60. Willie Gay Jr. – LB – Miss. St. – 6′-2″ 243 lbs. – Athletic and quick, will pop you in the mouth. And he did punch his own QB in the face, so there is that. Could be a 3 down ILBer with some seasoning.

    61. Terrell Burgess – S – Utah – 5′-11″ 202 lbs. – He’s an exciting athlete with good speed and a bigtime motor. Lack of size might be an issue.

    62. Larrell Murchison – IDL – NC State – 6′-2″ 297 lbs. – A nose for the ball with a great motor. Not the rangiest 3 tech, but he will apply constant pressure.

    63. Brandon Jones – S – Texas – 5′-11″ 198 lbs. – A smaller, tad more rangy version of Brooks. He is a thumper with an all-day motor, and a nose for the ball.

    64. Jordan Elliott – IDL – Missouri – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Strong and bursty, he can cause havoc in the backfield. Easy mover with excellent hands. Not the fastest off the snap, timing issues slow him down.

    65. Tyler Johnson – WR – Minnesota – 6′-1″ 206 lbs. – A nuanced route runner that knows how to get open. Plays with some physicality. I question his speed and he didn’t run so…

    66. Netane Muti – IOL – Fresno St. – 6′-3″ 315 lbs. – Skill set, power and movement ability should have him as the top IOL in the draft. he can flat out dominate. And looks to dominate you. Cannot stay healthy. Serious medical red flags.

    67. AJ Dillon – RB – Boston College – 6′-0″ 247 lbs. – A bigger bodied back with more speed than one would think. A gap power fit. Loses a lot when stretched out east to west.

    68. Ben Bredeson – IOL – Michigan – 6′-5″ 315 lbs. – A LG prospect I love that has played in Gap/man/OSZ at Mich so he is versatile. Decent mover with good balance and very good power that looks to finish blocks.

    69. Amik Robertson – CB – Louisiana Tech – 5′-8″ 187 lbs. – slot corner due to his size. But he is a mean, physical little dude that will bring the fight to you.

    70. Lamical Perine – RB – Florida – 5′-11″ 216 lbs. – A patient power back with just enough juice to get to the house. Enough wiggle to get outside, but is at his best working north to south.

    71. Jabari Zuniga – Edge – Florida – 6′-3″ 253 lbs. – Decent burst, OK against the run, good athlete with range. Another boom bust prospect.

    72. Kenny Willekes – Edge – Michigan State – 6′-4″ 264 lbs. – Relentless, tough, strong, try hard with average athletic ability for the position. I think due to that he is a 43 DE.

    73. Alex Highsmith – Edge – Charlotte – 6′-4″ 248 lbs. – Dynamic athlete off the edge with plenty of range, good flexibility and a great motor. Not the sturdiest run defender. 34 Edge.

    74. Logan Wilson – LB – Wyoming – 6′-2″ 241 lbs. – A easy flowing downhill ILBer with average athletic ability, plays with smarts and under control. Don’t think he has the range to cover on passing downs. 2 Down ILBer.

    75. Anthony McFarland – RB – Maryland – 5′-8″ 208 lbs. – An undersized, raw talented HR threat from anywhere on the field. Not a 3 down guy.

    76. Shaquille Quarterman – LB – Miami – 6′-1″ 234 lbs. – A real old school MLBer that reads, reacts and then thumps. I think he moves well enough to help in some coverage.

    77. Antonio Gibson – RB – Memphis – 6′-1″ 223 lbs. – A wr/rb/do it all back with home run ability. Elusive with a bit of power. A jack of all trades, master of none.

    78. Evan Weaver – LB – California – 6′-2″ 237 lbs. – Not the world’s greatest athlete, but he is so instinctual he’s always around the ball. Super productive. Not a hammer and not great in coverage.

    79. David Woodward – LB – Utah State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. -Not fast or super athletic, but he is smart, instinctual and has a big motor. He is everywhere. ILB

    80. Ke’Shawn Vaughn – RB – Vanderbilt – 5′-10″ 214 lbs. – Decent vision with good balance and ok speed. Good pass catcher. Lacks wiggle and not explosive.

    81. Quintez Cephus – WR – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Wisconsin – Big strong physical. Good route runner that can get himself open. Lacks deep speed. Faced 2 counts of sexual assault, case was dismissed.

    82. Jason Strowbridge – IDL – North Carolina – 6′-4″ 275 lbs. – A gap jumper that lacks the size to hold his ground against double teams. Once he is into gaps, causes issues for the offense. A 34 DE or 43 DE is his future.

    83. Alton Robinson – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 264 lbs. – A toolbox full of length, athletic ability, bend and explosiveness. Decent against the run. Just needs to put it all together. 34 Edge with a high ceiling.

    84. Joe Bachie Jr. – LB – Michigan State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. – a ILB with good instincts and decent range. Will pop you in the mouth when given the chance. Probably a 2 down ILBer in the NFL. Steroid suspension…

    85. Joshua Kelley – RB – UCLA – 5′-11″ 212 lbs. – Strong, tough with good balance and hard to bring down, but lacks wiggle and HR speed. A one cut and go type of back.

    86. Lynn Bowden – WR – Kentucky – 5′-11″ 204 lbs. – a gadget WR that can play RB and QB (wildcat) A real team guy that you will need to game plan to get the ball in his hands as he learns to be a slot WR.

    87. Colby Parkinson – TE – Stanford – 6′-7 252 lbs. – Big with a big wingspan, he will torture defenders in the middle of the field and the endzone. Not a great blocker and needs to get stronger.

    88. Antonio Gandy-Golden – WR – Liberty – 6′-4″ 223 lbs. – Crazy catches are littered throughout his highlights. Outstanding catch radius combined with flypaper hands make him a bigtime contested and 50-50 ball receiver. Not a great athlete or burner.

    89. Darrynton Evans – RB – Appalachian State – 5′-10″ 203 lbs. – Lightning in a bottle. His change of direction and lateral jump cuts will have defenders tackling air. HR speed. Narrow frame with little room for growth. Better outside then inside. OZS committee back.

    90. J.R. Reed – S – Georgia – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – An old school SS that works best moving forward as he doesn’t have the foot speed to be ultra rangy.

    91. Harrison Bryant – TE -Florida Atlantic – 6′-5″ 243 lbs. – Athletic with good hands and is a good route runner. He isn’t a blocker. His calling card is in the middle of the field.

    92. Javelin Guidry – CB – Utah – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – Quick, oily and super fast. Size is going to limit him to slot/nickel/dime work.

    93. Hakeem Adeniji – OT – Kansas – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Another smaller LT that moves well and could slide into a zone scheme easily. needs to add power.

    94. Jacob Breeland – TE – Oregon – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – An average at best athlete, but plays with an edge and isn’t afraid of contact. Good hands and can get deep. Decent inline blocker.

    95. Geno Stone – S – Iowa – 5′-10″ 207 lbs. – Another kid from Iowa with smarts, instincts and lacks a big athletic profile. Works best in the box or zone coverage.

    96. Markus Bailey – LB – Purdue – 6′-1″ 235 lbs. – A Kiser clone in the fact that he is a smart. between the tackles, run stopping machine. Not enough athletic ability or speed to cover against the pass. 2019 knee injury muddies his water. 2 down ILB.

    97. Josiah Deguara – TE – Cincinnati – 6′-2″ 242 lbs. – Good inline blocker regardless his size, is also a good route runner and pass catcher. Not a tremendous athlete, but is first team try hard TE. A balanced TE.

    98. Gabriel Davis – WR – UCF – 6′-2″ 216 lbs. – Exciting athlete with decent speed and plays with a bit of an edge. hands are meh, and he didn’t run a ton of different routes.

    99. D.J. Wonnum – Edge – South Carolina – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – An above average athlete that can do a little of everything, but isn’t great at any one thing. Perfect size for 34 Edge with a great motor.

    100. Justin Strnad – LB – Wake Forest – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – Smooth moving forward and backward, can run and cover and go sideline to sideline. Would rather run around blockers then stack and shed. Still learning the nuances so his arrow is pointing up. ILBer in an odd front or WILL in an even front.

    101. Myles Bryant – CB – Washington – 5′-8″ 183 lbs. – another slot CB, plays faster than he ran, explosive movement skills.

    102. Lamar Jackson – CB – Nebraska – 6′-2″ 208 lbs. – Big, long and physical. Speed will give him issues. Press man CB.

    103. Julian Blackmon – S – Utah – 6′-0″ 187 lbs. – Fun kid on tape. Plenty of speed and range, great physicality, but at the same time, not a tremendous athlete.

    104. Devin Duvernay – WR – Texas – 5′-10″ 200 lbs. – a speed demon that would rather run you over then around you. A RB in a WRs body. A smart OC can do alot of stuff with this kid. Small catch radius.

    105. Essang Bassey – CB – Wake Forest – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – a nickel/slot CB that gets after it and is a smooth enough athlete to mirror really well.

    106. Charlie Heck – OT – North Carolina – 6′-8″ 311 lbs. – As Alyo has stated, the son of a coach. Smart, good technique and excellent length. Needs to add some weight and power. Great developmental type of L/RT.

    107. James Lynch – IDL – Baylor – 6′-4″ 289 lbs. – Monster sack production from a guy with not a ton of athletic ability. Not twitchy and not explosive. Just average strength. Really just wins on an all-day motor and a give ’em hell attitude.

    108. Trevis Gipson – Edge – Tulsa – 6′-4″ 261 lbs. – an easy mover with decent burst and good flexibility. Can get bullied against the run. Developmental 34 Edge.

    109. A.J. Green – CB – Oklahoma State – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Physical CB, sometimes too physical. Decent speed and a decent athletic profile.

    110. Jalen Elliott – S – Notre Dame – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Slow, moderate athlete, but man he loves to blow up ball carriers. IMO a box safety or a big nickel LBer.

    111. Mitchell Wilcox- TE – South Florida – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Hard working combo TE that had good production, but won’t wow you as an athlete. I worry a bit about his hands.

    112. Trevon Hill – Edge – Miami – 6′-3″ 248 lbs. – Athletic, bursty edge with a nice pass rush. Needs to add weight to handle the run. Pass rush specialist early. 34 Edge.

    113. Josiah Scott – CB – Michigan State – 5′-9″ 185 lbs. – A nickel back with good speed and decent toughness for his size. Good ball skills. Too small to survive on the outside.

    114. Myles Dorn – S – North Carolina – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – A decent all-around S with good work in the box and some solid pass defense stats. His lack of speed may limit his upside.

    115. Kendall Coleman – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Average athlete that is really still developing his skill set. Good motor and plays with nice physicality. Needs to be developed. Developmental 34 Edge.

    116. Jake Hanson – IOL – Oregon – 6′-4″ 303 lbs. – A zone scheme OC. A technician and good athlete, lacks the strength to trade power with defenders.

    117. Mykal Walker – LB – Fresno State – 6′-3″ 230 lbs. – Has played DE, Edge and ILB. So, he is a movable chess pc. I like him as an ILB in an odd front. Certainly knows how to blitz, can drop into coverage and will stick his nose in the fan in run support. Needs development time, due to so many position changes.

    118. Lavert Hill – CB – Michigan – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – A hard-nosed press man. Lacks speed to stay with the fast WRs. Might work inside. Man only.

    119. – Michael Warren II – RB – Cincinnati – 5′-9″ 226 lbs. – Decent feet for his build (a bowling ball) with good power and contact balance. Not making you miss and isn’t a HR hitter. Another short yardage back IMO.

    120. Tanner Muse – S – Clemson – 6′-2″ 227 lbs. – A big S, maybe a LBer…4.41 speed, can play deep due to his speed and athleticism, can play in the box due to his size. Never put it all together for his profile.

    121. Aaron Parker – WR – Rhode Island – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – A good blend of physicality combines with his ability to go up and get it makes him a contested catch monster. He needs to develop his route running.

    122. Kyle Murphy – IOL – Rhode Island – 6′-3″ 316 lbs. – Overpowered FCS competition, needs to add size and power to do that at the NFL level. He’s an easy mover with good footwork. Scheme versatile.

    123. Joe Reed – WR – Virginia – 6′-0″ 224 lbs. – A deep threat with good hands and can return in STs. Has some wiggle. Another gadget kid early as he learns to run routes properly.

    124. Stephen Sullivan – TE – LSU – 6′-5″ 248 lbs. – Massive seam buster that got lost in the shuffle of an all star offense. Long, middle of the field mismatch. Not a tremendous blocker.

    125. Benito Jones – IDL – Ole Miss – 6′-1″ 316 lbs. – a fire hydrant with very good strength. Won’t slide thru gaps but holds more than his own against the run. A true NT with a little pass rush push.

    126. Jaylinn Hawkins – S – California – 6′-1″ 208 lbs. – Smart, physical with some range. Not a ton and won’t wow you going sideline to sideline. Decent ball skills, but he has room for improvement.

    127. Davion Taylor – LB – Colorado – 6′-1″ 228 lbs. – Late comer to football. Kid is a PAC 12 track star, so he can fly, great athlete, smooth mover. Great motor. Needs to get stronger and needs massive development. WILL or ILB in a 34.

    128. Kyahva Tezino – LB – San Diego State – 6′-0″ 235 lbs. – Plays the run well, decent athlete that can get to the sidelines and plays with patience and intelligence. Lacks length and quickness.

    129 Devin Asiasi – TE – UCLA – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – a combo blocker/receiver with good size for the position. Needs technical work in all aspects. Developmental type traditional TE.

    130. Dalton Keene – TE – Virginia Tech – 6′-4″ 253 lbs. – Here is your late round, H-back, fullback, TE. He can block and catch but was never really given much opportunity. Decent athlete, but plays like an old school TE.

    131. Kindle Vildor – CB – Georgia Southern – 5′-10″ 191 lbs. – Ballhawking athletic CB with the size and footwork to work in any scheme. Not great in run support. Can be over-aggressive.

    132. Stephen Guidry – WR – Mississippi State – 6′-3″ 201 lbs. – Long with long arms and decent deep speed. Can go up and get it, or win over the top. Not a great route runner.

    133. Justin Herron – OT – Wake Forest – 6′-4″ 308 lbs. – A OG in the NFL. Good pass blocker with decent footwork, has trouble trading power in the run game. Zone scheme OG.

    134. Reggie Robinson II – CB – Tulsa – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Long with decent athletic profile, does his best work in a zone and things are in front of him. Nice production. Modest athlete.

    135. Tyrie Cleveland – WR – Florida – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – Long and fast. Never ran a diverse route tree, but he can eat up a DB in a hurry. Will need some development.

    136. Jon Runyan – OT – Michigan – 6′-4″ 306 lbs. – I think he moves inside to OG. Son of an NFL OT. So he is smart. Good athlete but lacks strength. zone scheme OG.

    137. Tipa Galea’i – EDGE – Utah State – 6′-5″ 235 lbs. – An explosive, oily, easy mover. Needs to add mass if he wants to hold up against the run.

    138. Nigel Warrior – S – Tennessee – 6′-0″ 190 lbs. – Vols played him everywhere from what I saw. So he can do some of everything. Good athlete, good run defender for hsi size. Lack of ball production is a concern.

    139. Nevelle Clarke – CB – UCF – 6′-1″ 190 lbs. – I called him a mini Ramsey. Plays with a swagger and a ballhawks mentality. Great size for a CB. Easy mover. Needs to add strength and some weight to reach his full potential.

    140. James Proche – WR – SMU – 5′-11″ 201 lbs. – Natural hands and just catches everything. Smooth athlete, with great college production. Not a burner. Needs to work on route running.

    141. Cameron Brown – LB – Penn State – 6′-5″ 233 lbs. – Long for a LBer. Also raw. Can cover a ton of ground quickly and goes sideline to sideline. Not great in coverage. Not sure his position fit. 43 OLB or maybe add 15-20 lbs and make him a 34 edge?

    142. Sean McKeon – TE – Michigan – 6′-5″ 242 lbs. – A combo TE that can block in line and be used as a pass catcher. Not the most dynamic route runner, or athlete, but he competes hard. Good 3rd TE for a roster.

    143. Quez Watkins – WR – Southern Miss – 6′-0″ 185 lbs. – Will take the top off a defense. No idea how to run a route, gets open from DBs being scared of being ran by. Electric in the open field. Needs to add some good weight.

    144. Grayland Arnold – CB – Baylor – 5′-9″ 186 lbs. – Nickel CB with great ball production. Smooth lower body makes him sticky, has a ballhawk mentality. Lacks size to hold up on the outside.

    145. Charlie Taumoepeau – TE – Portland State – 6′-2″ 240 lbs. – Literally a move TE. He played H-back, RB, TE, WR for Portland State. So he can block and catch and be a nice depth piece. Nothing athletically extrordinary.

    146. Levonta Taylor – CB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – a CB turned safety, smooth lower half and good speed and lack of strength make him an ideal zone fit, either as a nickel or S. had back problems in the past.

    147. Mohamed Barry – LB – Nebraska – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – A bull in a china shop ILBer with sideline to sideline athleticism. Tough and strong just kinda running around out there hitting things and overrunning other things…

    148. John Reid – CB – Penn State – 5′-10″ 187 lbs. – A physical press man CB that due to lack of size will end up being a Nickel Back. Average speed to match his average athletic ability.

    149. Jordan Fuller – S – Ohio State – 6′-2″ 203 lbs. – A single high safety that is too slow to play single high in the NFL IMO. Racked up a ton of tackles and loves to hit. I like him as a depth/3rd safety with plenty of upside in the box.

    150. Derrek Tuszka – Edge – North Dakota St. – 6′-5″ 251 lbs. – A 43 end that will transition to a standup 34 edge. Tough, strong and can hold up vs the run. Great pass rush production. Decent athlete, but lacks flexibility to bend around the edge.

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    Rams General Manager Les Snead & Head Coach Sean McVay – – April 21, 2020

    (On what he learned this Spring during the evaluation process that might change or impact how he approaches the draft this year)
    MCVAY “I think what’s been really good is the dialogue, especially between (Rams General Manager) Les (Snead) and myself and really our groups as far as looking back on the three years of experience that we’ve had. The good things, maybe some things that we would say, maybe we would handle differently and that’s what it’s always about is self-evaluating, being able to learn from our mistakes, continue to try to replicate some of the things that have enabled us to have a certain level of success. I think it’s about recommitting every single year to evaluating your own roster, what are some of the needs? What do we feel like based on the flow of the league and trying to be competitive within your own division, the types of players that we want to onboard and the types of people that we want in our building? We’re hopeful that our people and our way of doing things will create our edge. We’re excited about attacking this draft process and fulfilling some of those needs to try to complete our roster to be a competitive group in 2020 in a very tough division.”

    (On if any players other than OL Brian Allen or anyone in the organization has tested positive for COVID-19)
    MCVAY “No, not that I know of. When we spoke last time, out of respect for the privacy of (OL) Brian (Allen) and where that was at, at that time and that’s why I didn’t want to reveal any specific names. When he had decided to speak about it openly, then you at least felt comfortable to acknowledge who it was. I was really pleased and proud of the way that Brian communicated immediately. I think (Senior Director of Sports Medicine and Performance) Reggie Scott’s guidance and leadership through that process, as you’re trying to navigate through it and handle it in all the right ways, was instrumental in us taking those steps with some urgency and now our facilities are opened back up. There hasn’t been anybody else that’s been exposed to that, to my knowledge.”

    (On what went into the decision to trade WR Brandin Cooks)
    SNEAD: “Many variables go into any time you trade someone, but probably to keep it simple is – a lot of teams did contact us about (WR) Brandin (Cooks) throughout this, I guess you’d call, offseason, whenever the new league year started, even before a little bit. We were committed to keeping Brandin because of what he did for our offense. I think in that time where we, I’d call it, naturally played hard to get because we weren’t actively trying to move him. When a few teams did come with a chance to get a second-round pick, that’s probably when we sat down and (Rams Head Coach) Sean (McVay) and I discussed, ‘Hey, what could be best moving forward?’ That pick being very valuable. Us with the emergence of (WR) Josh Reynolds and (WR) Robert Woods and (WR) Cooper Kupp, especially Josh Reynolds coming. We’ve got a deep receiver room, I think that helped and then getting another pick in the top 60, very valuable. I think those two variables – getting a second-round pick, having Josh Reynolds to go with two other very accomplished players allowed us to do that.”

    (On how he sees WR Josh Reynolds fitting in and if it will be Cooks’ role or seeing interchangeable parts with his three starting receivers)
    MCVAY “In a lot of ways, it’s a big vote of confidence to what we feel like Josh is capable of, of continuing to ascend to. He’s stepped in and been a starter and he’s got the ability to play really our X or Z, he can play in the slot. I think, really, we just feel like he’s a capable starting receiver if you’re getting into some of those three receiver sets. I think it’s also a reflection of the confidence that we have, really in our skill group as a whole. You can activate five different skilled players at any time, it doesn’t necessarily always have to be three receivers. You look at the emergence of (TE) Tyler Higbee, we’ve talked a lot about the confidence that we have in (TE) Gerald Everett, we’ve got to get (RB) Darrell Henderson going. We’ve got some skilled players that we’re excited about doing a better job of developing and seeing these guys have success. When you take a look at that unit as a whole and the entirety of what they represent, those are where you feel comfortable to make those decisions and there are some capable guys that we might be able to add in there in the next couple of days.”

    (On how they see the possibilities for drafting a wide receiver given how many there are in this draft)
    SNEAD: “Again, it’s obviously been well stated, this is a very deep receiver draft. With that being said, usually when a draft is considered deep in a position, it’s probably a lot of those players are gone in the first 32 (picks). That’s usually what deep means, right? There’s a lot of quality players. The one thing about the wide receiver position in college football, there’s a lot of teams throwing the football, there’s a lot of wide receivers on the field, so it’s imperative for us, our scouting staff working with our coaching staff to maybe get beyond some of the household names that make this draft deep ,that are probably going to go in the top-32 and find some of those players that have a skill set that can fit in to Sean’s offense and help us continue gaining yards, getting first-downs and scoring touchdowns.”
    MCVAY “I think a lot of the same. Really, for us, I think our coaching staff, Les and his group have done a great job collaborating to find players that we see value in. It doesn’t exclusively have to be that receiver position. It’s players that have an opportunity to make plays when the ball is in their hands and ultimately, it’s about scoring points. There’s a lot of different playmakers that come from different position groups in this draft and that’s something that we’ll see how things play themselves out. We’ve got a nice opportunity to be patient on Thursday and then Friday will be an exciting chance for us to get four picks off the board, but you guys know Les Snead. He’s a wheeler and dealer, you never know.”

    (On how the logistics are looking and if everything has gone smoothly on his end and if he has any concerns about the communication for this weekend)
    SNEAD: “It’s been very smooth. I think the experts we have helping us or assisting us get through this on our IT team, our video team, I give that group all the credit. Sean’s probably a little more adapt at some of this than I am, but I do know this have relied on some smart people and have not had a glitch at all and definitely am not anticipating any glitches. I do know this, if like anything, you have a phone, so if the screens go out or as (Senior Director of Communications) Artis (Twyman) just did with myself, I don’t know if you all knew this, but I was struggling to get into this Zoom conference, so guess what Artis did? He gave me a call on the old cell phone and it all worked out.”

    (On what the NFL draft setup will be like at their homes)
    MCVAY “This is the command center, that you can see here. It looks like I can set off a spaceship at this thing. Les and I have the same setup. They even got a camera in my office that they’ll film during the draft to make sure that Les and I aren’t at the same location. This is something that’s going to be different for sure.”

    (On what has been the biggest challenge has been having to go virtual since the NFL Combine and not being able to bring players to the facility)
    MCVAY “That’s really been the biggest challenge. I think in a lot of ways, the best part about this is, we’ve probably been more efficient, more detailed, just being able to operate on a cleaner schedule because it does take out – when you’re only just remotely working – you don’t have some of the other distractions that do inevitably come up. So, certainly not minimizing all the stuff that’s going on way bigger than football, but it has probably been the smoothest process. Les and I were able to talk this morning. We’ve been able to connect with the personnel and coaching staff and really have some clarity that you probably haven’t had in previous years because of the limited distractions that you have outside of ‘Hey, let’s focus on getting ready for this draft,’ and then our virtual offseason program with the players will start next Monday (April 27, 2020). So, that’s where there’s been positives. The negatives are where you don’t have that interpersonal interaction, that when you can bring the Top 30’s in. One of the things that I thought was instrumental in our first year that Les has done in previous years, we went around and actually got a chance to workout some guys. We worked out (WR) Cooper Kupp, we worked out (TE) Gerald Everett, some other guys that we were considering. Those are really beneficial things to get that up close and feel, most importantly for the human being, but then also some of the physical things that you’re looking for. That’s where you get a little bit minimized, but it’s sometimes does create clarity because we’re asking them to play football. The Zoom meetings or the FaceTimes have enabled you to have some interaction with the players, where you can still get a feel for their personality and how they’re wired.”

    (On if the Rams are in the market for a backup quarterback through the draft that the team can develop or if they are satisfied with QB John Wolford in that role)
    MCVAY “Yeah, I think, you’re always looking to upgrade that position, but John Wolford is a guy that we’re very excited about. We feel like he is more than capable of continuing to ascend and develop. I think his skill set and just the way that he’s wired above the neck are great traits and things that we look for from that quarterback position. I think what’s just as important is the rapport that he has with (QB) Jared (Goff) because it starts with Jared and then making sure that there’s a good comfortable relationship with whoever that person is as the backup. You never know exactly how this thing sorts itself out, but if you said, ‘We’re going into a season and John Wolford is your backup, and God forbid something happen to Jared, do you think he can come in operate and have you function as an offense?’ The answer is absolutely.”

    (On if McVay can give a visual tour to media on the call of his at-home command center)
    MCVAY “I can give you a quick view as long as it’s got the screensaver that doesn’t have our board. So really, that’s where our boards will be on those monitors – offensive board, defensive board and then the draft tracker, and the other one. That’s really what that entails, so it’s as close to a simulation as what we would have if we were sitting in our draft room at the office. I can’t say enough about (Rams Manager, Information Technology) Jeff Graves and Dan Dmytrisin (Director, Video) on what a job they’ve done of making this as smooth as a process with IT and the video.”

    (On if the draft board is behind the screensavers of McVay’s command center monitors)
    MCVAY “Don’t ask me to show that, now we’re getting carried away (laughs).”

    (On concern of hackers during the 2020 NFL Draft)
    MCVAY “I’m not too worried about that. If they’re worried about hacking us, these things never go exactly according to plan. So, the board is a demonstration of where we have it, but it doesn’t always work out that way, which is why the planning and contingency planning is vital.”
    SNEAD: “…You see, I’ve got this little thin notebook.”
    Media Member: “It’s the little red book?”
    MCVAY “His (Les Snead) penmanship is pretty impressive, too. He’s sent some notes. It’s impressive.”
    SNEAD: “Yeah, I think it says ‘2019 Draft area scout draft meeting, coaches meetings.’”
    MCVAY “You see the problem is, Les doesn’t know what year it is, but other than that we’re in good shape (laughs).”

    (On Snead’s quarantine beard)
    SNEAD: “I don’t know if this is a beard, this is just probably laziness of not shaving. Then when I got the text from (Rams Senior Director, Communications) Artis (Twyman) this morning, I was slightly embarrassed that I was coming back on a Zoom call, with kind of my fisherman look. I do plan to clean up before the draft. The dress code is the pros of this quarantine.”
    MCVAY “Like a true PR director too, look at Artis (Twyman). He looks like he is getting ready to film a shot on Good Morning America or something. He’s got the office setup. I just got my mom’s blinds as an interior designer (laughs).”

    (On if there’s any concern regarding computer glitches while selecting draft picks)
    MCVAY “I think there’s enough time in between picks. The NFL has done a great job of communicating and understanding and some flexibility if some of those things do arise. If you were telling me we’re operating on a real play clock, like 40 seconds or 25 in a really game, I’d say maybe I’d feel a little bit differently, but we have a little bit more time in between those selections and I think the NFL has done a nice job of kind of getting ahead of some of those things that could come up.”

    (On how the League’s practice draft went and if doing that affected the way they’ll approach the draft)
    SNEAD: “I think it went well. I think it served what a – if you want to call it a practice session is for. To get everyone on the same page, to get used to how it was going to play out, especially from a technical standpoint. I don’t think it will change a lot of how you’re going to strategize in the draft. I think if we do make a trade, as Sean mentioned earlier, that’s definitely a possibility. I do think at that point, it’ll probably be a little different than just on the phone, just walking through it. Maybe we’ll be a little more careful to make sure all parties are onboard and in the know, so we can execute a trade without a glitch. I do think like Sean said, I do think the league will be well aware if two teams are trying to make a trade. I do think Jeff Graves showed me, I think there’s an emergency line that you can eventually call in and go, ‘Mayday, mayday. We’re trying to make a trade but technology is down.’ Don’t quote me on that, but I do believe that is the case. I did tell Jeff, that I’m glad Jeff is going to be here. An IT person can be in your home, so that will be a great sidekick.”

    (On why there’s been a delay in Leonard Floyd being introduced and how important it is to find a potential successor for LT Andrew Whitworth in the 2020 NFL Draft)
    SNEAD: “We’ve agreed to terms with (OLB) Leonard (Floyd) and (DL) A’Shawn (Robinson) based on language in your contract on when the players can get physicals and things like that is really the nuances of why you can’t officially announce. That is, again, a little bit of the adversity during these quarantined-times with the physicals. On the OL, I think we have been trying to strategically attack the offensive line position over the last few years and with one main goal to accomplish, is get as many young players that can grow together as possible. When you step into a draft, and say, ‘you have to find your next left tackle.’ It doesn’t matter where you’re picking, that may be hard to do. I think just like in drafts past, if there’s a potential player that can maybe have a shot to replace ‘Big Whit’ (T Andrew Whitworth) in time – now as Sean may say, ‘I don’t know if Whit’s ever going to retire.’ He may be 50 and we’re still talking about replacing ‘Big Whit.’ We’ve done it with (OL) Joe Noteboom, we’ve drafted (OL) Bobby Evans, we can do it again this year. Goal would be, draft someone who can be versatile, not only a left tackle, but as many players that can play left tackle as possible is always good.”

    (On what would have to happen for the Rams to trade into the first round)
    SNEAD: “I think simply put, there’s a football player where we really like the human being and we really like the skillset and we think that player and person can be a benefit, can help us continue contending, continue our winning ways that we’ve established over the past few years.”

    (On if trading up to the first round is a possibility)
    SNEAD: “There’s definitely been, since we’ve been here, we’ve proven that we’ll go get a player and we’ll also move back to acquire, let’s call it, more picks in the draft, which ultimately means more players. So that’s the benefit, you either give up a player on the back end to go get one, or maybe you gain one or two more that you weren’t expecting if you trade back. We’ll try to navigate that as the draft comes to us, because when you’re picking 52 (overall), 57 (overall), there is an element that you have to allow the draft to come to you a little bit.”

    (On if they expect this year’s draft to be more unpredictable in terms of where players are taken)
    SNEAD: “No, I think all drafts are unpredictable. I think the way, let’s call it your profession (media), covers the draft – we all could name maybe the 15-20 (or so) players that we feel like might be first rounders, I don’t know if we could get the order right, so that’s even unpredictable in itself. Except, maybe you can get the names right. I do think once you get late 20s, into the second, third round, you can study a lot of mocks and those players go anywhere from second to fifth (round). The draft’s always unpredictable in that nature. What I like to say is, ‘Everything up to this point is speculation. But no one has seen each 32 team’s draft boards and what they feel and who they feel can help them.’ Then when that team decides to take a player that becomes his IPO, his initial public offering, everything else is speculation up until that point.”

    (On if Snead tends to get more calls when the Rams do not have a first round pick to move into the round or does he tend to make more of the calls to see what’s out there)
    SNEAD: “I think you try to make calls to get a feel for who may be willing to move. In all honesty, when you’re at 52 (overall), I bet teams that are trying to move out of late first would rather not come back that far, and usually the ammo it takes to move up, could be a little unrealistic or maybe less rational unless you’re just wanting to come away with one player.

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    Daniel Jeremiah’s top 150 prospects in the 2020 NFL Draft class

    By Daniel Jeremiah
    NFL Media analyst
    Published: April 20, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.
    Updated: April 20, 2020 at 11:50 p.m.

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    Top 50: 4.0
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    With the Cincinnati Bengals set to make the first pick of the 2020 NFL Draft on Thursday, April 23, it’s time for my final prospect rankings of draft season.

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    1

    Chase Young, Edge

    School: Ohio State | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 1

    Young is a tall, long and athletic defensive end. As a pass rusher, he explodes off the ball and gains ground in a hurry. He uses a quick swipe move and also has the ability to control the wrists of blockers. He can convert speed to power and is effective on loops and games. He does have a little tightness at the top of his rush. Against the run, he sets the edge easily and uses his quickness to slip blocks and create chaos behind the line of scrimmage. Overall, Young is an All-Pro talent, reminiscent of Julius Peppers and Mario Williams.

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    2

    Joe Burrow, QB

    School: LSU | Year: Senior (RS)
    Previous rank: 2

    Burrow has solid size for the position and he possesses many elite qualities. He operated out of the ‘gun in the LSU spread attack and he is extremely accurate, efficient and instinctive. He is very smooth in his drop and he has the ability to process through his reads at a rapid pace. He throws with anticipation and he can naturally layer the ball over and under coverage. He doesn’t have top-shelf arm strength when driving the ball outside the numbers. He relies more on timing/touch. He doesn’t flinch versus pressure when he sees something he likes down the field. If he needs to buy time, he can slide and climb the pocket with excellent feel/awareness. He has a nice burst when he leaves the pocket and he is more than a capable runner. Overall, Burrow lacks special arm strength, but his combination of poise, accuracy and toughness is very appealing.

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    3

    Isaiah Simmons, LB/S

    School: Clemson | Year: Junior (RS)
    Previous rank: 3

    Simmons is an extremely versatile, athletic defensive chess piece. He is a long, rangy athlete who lined up at linebacker, over the slot and in the deep middle for Clemson, thanks to his diverse and unique skill set. Against the pass, he has terrific range and instincts from the deep middle. He has the speed and agility to match up with top-flight tight ends and backs underneath. He is an explosive blitzer off the edge and in through the middle. Simmons overpowers running backs in protection. Against the run, he takes good angles and his speed allows him to make plays from the back side. He will struggle at times if he has to take on blocks on the edge. Overall, Simmons is built for today’s NFL and his role could change week to week, depending on the opponent.

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    4

    Jeff Okudah, CB

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    School: Ohio State | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 5

    Okudah has ideal size, length, twitch and competitiveness for the position. He is very comfortable and effective in both press and off coverage. He is patient in press and very fluid/smooth when he opens up. He does a nice job of staying on top versus vertical routes and he can locate the football down the field. He has the agility to mirror underneath. In off coverage, he explodes out of his plant and he is a dependable open-field tackler. This is a very clean player with a very high floor and ceiling.

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    5

    Derrick Brown, DT

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    School: Auburn | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: 4

    Brown has excellent size, power and athleticism for the defensive tackle position. As a pass rusher, he has a quick first step and uses his hands very effectively. He wins with a violent club/swim move, a rip move or a nifty up-and-under counter move. Against the run, he easily holds the point of attack. The Auburn product creates separation from blockers with an explosive punch, which allows him to close quickly and make plays. His effort is consistent. Overall, this is a complete player capable of dominating on all three downs. He’ll be a difference maker on Day 1.

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    6

    Tua Tagovailoa, QB

    School: Alabama | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 6

    Tua lacks ideal height for the position, but he has quick feet, eyes and release. He primarily operated in the ‘gun at Alabama, but he did take some snaps under center. He is very crisp and urgent in his setup. He throws off a firm platform and he spins the ball really well. He always throws with the proper pace on slants and crossers. He doesn’t have an overpowering arm, but he can still place balls in tight windows. He understands how to hold and manipulate safeties with his eyes. He makes good decisions in the RPO game. He is a nifty runner, but he prefers to buy time behind the line and remain in passing mode. He did struggle with identifying some underneath defenders when in the red zone. He is coming off a serious hip injury and that must be factored into his evaluation. Overall, Tua is the ultimate point guard. If he can remain healthy, he has the potential to be one of the NFL’s most efficient passers.

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    7

    Mekhi Becton, OT

    School: Louisville | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 7

    Becton is a massive left tackle prospect with a similar size/skill set to former first-rounder Bryant McKinnie. In pass protection, he has surprisingly nimble feet and uses his length to steer defenders. Even when he fails to land his punch, he can absorb rushers with his girth. He needs to improve his awareness versus games up front. He is a dominating run blocker and collects knockdowns by the bunches. He latches on and uses his upper-body strength to torque and toss. He isn’t as effective when working in space. Overall, Becton has areas to improve — mainly balance and awareness — but he is a rare athlete at this size and his upside is through the roof.

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    8

    Javon Kinlaw, DT

    School: South Carolina | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: 8

    Kinlaw is a hulking defensive tackle prospect. As a pass rusher, he has a sudden get-off and he’s quick to shoot his hands and drive back blockers. He will also incorporate a push/pull move on occasion. He does need to broaden his arsenal of moves, but there is tremendous upside. Against the run, he easily locks out single blocks, but he gets washed by angle blocks and double teams. His effort is solid. Kinlaw showed out against elite competition, but he played down to the level of lesser opponents. Overall, Kinlaw’s best football is in front of him and he has Pro Bowl potential.

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    9

    CeeDee Lamb, WR

    School: Oklahoma | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 9

    Lamb is a tall, lean wideout with top-tier hands, toughness and production. He lines up inside and outside. He is a smooth, fluid route runner and understands how to set up cornerbacks. He also has a good feel in zone. He attacks the ball when working back to the quarterback and tracks the ball naturally down the field. Lamb doesn’t have elite speed, but he can find some extra juice when the ball is in the air. He is at his best after the catch, as he consistently breaks tackles and is also very elusive. Overall, Lamb is a polished player who is equally explosive and reliable.

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    10

    Jedrick Wills, OT

    School: Alabama | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 10

    Wills lined up at right tackle for Alabama. He has average height for the position and he’s carrying a little extra weight. An excellent pass protector, Wills is quick out of his stance and he’s an easy mover versus speed and counters. He is a natural knee bender and he reworks his hands to maintain leverage/control. He is aware versus games and stunts. In the run game, he is at his best when working up to the second level. He also flashes the ability to roll his hips and uproot defenders over his nose. He’s never on the ground. Overall, Wills doesn’t have the ideal body type, but he has all of the necessary tools to be a 10-year starter at either tackle spot.

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    11

    Jerry Jeudy, WR

    School: Alabama | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 11

    Jeudy is an elite route runner with outstanding burst, body control and awareness. He explodes off the line and uses his quickness to avoid press coverage. His snap at the top of the route is as good as any prospect in the last decade. He has the ability to make plays outside of his frame, but he will have some concentration lapses, which lead to drops. After the catch, he is very slippery and elusive, although he isn’t going to break a lot of tackles. Overall, Jeudy is a loose athlete with elite route skills and he should emerge as a high-volume production guy very early in his career.

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    12

    Henry Ruggs III, WR

    School: Alabama | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 12

    Ruggs has an unbelievable blend of speed and toughness. He lines up outside and in the slot. He ran a lot of slants and take-off routes in Alabama’s offense — and he was special on both. Ruggs boasts world-class speed — he truly explodes off the line and after the catch. He needs to continue to refine his releases against press (he gives up his chest too often), but not many defenses will want to take that chance against his speed. His hands are good, not great, and he does allow too many balls into his chest. After the catch, he runs away from most defenders while occasionally running through them. He is outstanding on jet sweeps and also has kick-return value. Overall, Ruggs has Tyreek Hill-type ability. He will be a matchup nightmare every week.

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    13

    Tristan Wirfs, OT

    School: Iowa | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 13

    Wirfs is a big, powerful offensive tackle. In pass protection, he launches out of his stance and hasn’t had issues versus outside speed rushers. However, he has experienced issues against inside counter moves. He over-sets and struggles to redirect back inside, allowing too many pressures in the games I studied. When he can land his punch, it’s over. His hands are so strong and he has the power base to end the play right there. In the run game, he is very strong and aggressive. He creates a ton of movement, but also will overextend and fall off at times. He’s on the ground too much. I love his aggressive demeanor, but he needs to play more under control. Overall, I believe he can survive at tackle, but he’d benefit from playing with neighbors on both sides. I think Wirfs has All-Pro potential at guard.

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    14

    Justin Jefferson, WR

    School: LSU | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 14

    Jefferson is a tall, slender wideout with off-the-charts production. He lines up in the slot and out wide. He is an outstanding route runner. He does a nice job getting on the toes of cornerbacks and then creating separation out of the break point. He does a lot of work in traffic and will extend and finish before taking hard contact. He can play above the rim down the field and can contort his body to make special catches. He doesn’t have elite speed, but he’s plenty fast enough. After the catch, he has some wiggle and will fight for extra yards. Overall, Jefferson is a polished receiver and should make an immediate impact at the next level.

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    15

    Patrick Queen, LB

    School: LSU | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 15

    Queen is an undersized linebacker with outstanding burst, instincts and coverage ability. Against the pass, he is very fluid in his drops and his change-of-direction ability is excellent. He has good instincts to jump routes and he closes to the flat in a hurry. He is a very dynamic blitzer (see him flat-back an offensive guard in the Texas A&M game). In the run game, he is quick to key/read and shoot gaps. He does get uprooted at times because of his size, but he usually finds a way to beat blockers to spots. Overall, Queen is a high-tempo playmaker at the second level and should impact all three downs.

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    16

    D’Andre Swift, RB

    School: Georgia | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 16

    Swift is a compact running back with excellent patience, vision and quickness. On inside runs, he lets things develop before exploding through the line of scrimmage. He has the vision to see and set up second- and third-level defenders. He has make-miss ability in tight quarters, but prefers to drop his shoulder and seek contact. He has enough speed to capture the corner on outside runs. He is a cradle catcher in the passing game, but it’s effective. In pass protection, he likes to cut block and he’s reliable. Overall, Swift has a similar skill set to Josh Jacobs, and I expect comparable results at the next level.

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    17

    Kenneth Murray, LB

    1

    School: Oklahoma | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 18

    Murray is an off-the-ball, run-and-hit linebacker. He is at his best when he’s free to chase and make plays to the perimeter. He closes in a heartbeat and he is an explosive tackler. He struggles when he has to play off blocks and locate the football through the trash inside, as he doesn’t use his hands and gets swallowed up. He has had some success dipping and slipping blocks. He is very athletic in coverage versus running backs, easily mirroring them in space. He is also a very dynamic blitzer. Overall, I believe Murray would be best served to play outside and off the ball, where he would be afforded clean sight lines to attack with his speed.

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    18

    Andrew Thomas, OT

    1

    School: Georgia | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 17

    Thomas is a thick, powerful offensive tackle. In pass protection, he has average foot quickness in his set, but he possesses a powerful punch and strong anchor. He gets in trouble at times because his base is too wide; he lunges and loses balance. He plays with good overall awareness. He is a dominant run blocker. He can uncoil and uproot defenders over his nose and has the strength to wash defenders down the line of scrimmage on down blocks. He is effective working up a level when he can stay on one track, but he struggles to redirect in space. Overall, some teams view Thomas as a guard, but I believe he can hold up at tackle if he improves his balance issues.

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    19

    Ross Blacklock, DT

    School: TCU | Year: Junior (RS)
    Previous rank: 19

    Blacklock is a dynamic interior defensive lineman. As a pass rusher, he launches out of his four-point stance and his bull rush is ferocious. He creates immediate knock-back. He is ultra-twitchy. He flashes a long-arm move where he can jolt, separate and finish. As a run defender, he successfully stacks and sheds single blocks, but he needs to improve his awareness and effectiveness versus double teams, where he gets washed down the line. He does have some durability concerns, but his skill set is special. Overall, Blacklock comes with some risk, but he’s worth it. He has the potential to develop into a top-flight interior pass rusher.

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    20

    Justin Herbert, QB

    School: Oregon | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: 20

    Herbert has exceptional size, mobility and arm strength. He has quick feet in his setup and he bounces on his toes once he gets to the top of his drop. His motion can be a little robotic at times, but the ball comes out tight with high RPMs. He has a big arm, but his placement is a little inconsistent. His front side flies open on some throws, impacting his accuracy. That can be corrected. He has shown the ability to touch up the ball underneath and makes some impressive throws on the run. He is a very good runner. He builds speed and he is effective on zone reads. The biggest area he needs to improve is his lack of anticipation. He waits too long to cut it loose. According to everyone at Oregon, his work ethic and character are off the charts. Overall, Herbert has some special physical tools, but he needs to play with less caution and learn to embrace an attacking mentality.

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    21

    CJ Henderson, CB

    School: Florida | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 21

    Henderson is an extremely explosive and athletic cornerback prospect out of Florida. He played outside and inside on the games I studied. He is very physical in press coverage, landing a two-hand jam consistently. He is extremely loose and fluid to open up and mirror all over the field. He’s hardly ever out of position and possesses rare makeup speed when he is caught in a bind. You see that same burst when he’s in off coverage and the ball is thrown in front. He does need to improve on finding the ball down the field, as he’s often a little late to look back. The major concern with this player is tackling. He has way too many misses and that must be improved. Overall, Henderson has some elite traits and could emerge as the top cornerback in this class, but his tackling must be addressed.

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    22

    Xavier McKinney, S

    School: Alabama | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 22

    McKinney was an instinctive safety for the Tide and he also spent some time playing nickel linebacker. When aligned deep, he is fluid in his movement and he’s quick to key/read and drive on the football. His range is excellent. While he can effectively locate the ball, he will occasionally lose a 50/50 battle down the field. He is a dependable wrap/drag tackler. He has a very good feel as a blitzer, displaying timing and burst. Overall, McKinney is an intelligent, versatile defender and he should be very effective in multiple roles.

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    23

    Jordan Love, QB

    School: Utah State | Year: Junior (RS)
    Previous rank: 23

    Love has ideal size, arm strength and athletic ability. He operated out of the ‘gun at Utah State and was very fluid and smooth in his setup. He throws from a variety of platforms and arm angles. The ball jumps out of his hand. He is at his best on skinny post drive throws and over-the-top deep balls. His decision making was very concerning this past season. He forced too many balls into crowds and didn’t ever give up on a play — to a fault. His supporting cast wasn’t very good, but he still fell into too many bad habits. He uses his athletic ability to escape and extend plays, but there are occasions when he fails to climb and reset his feet. Overall, Love is a raw prospect who will need some time to develop. There is risk with him, but the payoff could be huge.

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    24

    Brandon Aiyuk, WR

    School: Arizona State | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: 24

    Aiyuk is one of my favorite players in the draft class. He has a solid, muscular frame and plays an aggressive brand of football. He is explosive in his release and he attacks the leverage of cornerbacks before suddenly snapping off his route. Aiyuk doesn’t run a wide variety of routes, but he’s very efficient and effective. He has strong hands and can finish in traffic. He is at his best after the catch, breaking tackles and making people miss without gearing down. Those skills serve him well as a returner, too. Overall, Aiyuk will need a little time to develop as a complete route runner, but he’s a tough, explosive playmaker with added special teams value.

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    25

    K’Lavon Chaisson, Edge

    School: LSU | Year: Sophomore (RS)
    Previous rank: 25

    Chaisson primarily lined up as a stand-up rusher in the Tigers’ defensive system. He is long, explosive and very athletic. As a pass rusher, he relies more on pure get-off speed and athletic ability than technical skill. He is at his best as a looper, where he can find a crease and explode through. He has yet to figure out how to use his length to his advantage on a consistent basis. Against the run, he flashes the ability to stack and hold the point, but he excels at slipping blocks and creating havoc. His speed and effort show up on the back side of plays. Overall, Chaisson is more athlete than football player right now, but he has all of the raw tools to be a dominant force at the next level.

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    26

    A.J. Epenesa, Edge

    School: Iowa | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 26

    Epenesa is a skilled pass rusher with outstanding size, strength and effort. He has average get-off quickness, but he boasts strong hands, can flip his hips and is a reliable finisher. He has a variety of hand techniques, including a violent club move, swipe move and a push/pull move. He also will flash a long-arm move with his inside arm. He has a great feel when an OT is leaning outside, which creates an opening for his up-and-under inside-counter move. Against the run, he can hold the point of attack easily. His effort on the back side is outstanding, but he lacks the burst to make a ton of plays from distance. Overall, Epenesa has a very high floor as a prospect. He should be a consistent 8-to-10-sack performer at the very least.

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    27

    Tee Higgins, WR

    School: Clemson | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 27

    Higgins is a tall, long and rangy wideout with elite high-point skills. He uses a quick foot fire to defeat press coverage. He is a smooth, long-striding route runner. He is at his best when on the move: slants, posts and go routes. He lacks snap at the top of his route when working back downhill. He has incredible ball skills down the field. He can elevate and also adjust to the back-shoulder ball. After the catch, he is very smooth and slippery. Overall, Higgins isn’t going to do a lot of the dirty work in the middle of the field, but he’s very effective on the outside and provides big-play ability.

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    28

    Austin Jackson, OT

    School: USC | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 28

    Jackson brings an intriguing blend of size, athleticism and upside. In the passing game, he has the quickness to easily cut off speed rushers and he plays with good knee bend and balance. He needs to improve on his punch, as he’s often late to shoot his hands and gives up his chest, leaving him vulnerable to the bull rush. He flashes the ability to settle down after giving ground, but this needs to improve. In the run game, he has the quickness to reach/cut off on the back side and he does a good job of staying attached on the front side. His overall play strength needs to improve, but he’s only 20 years old and that should come in time. Jackson isn’t ready to play at a high level right away, but the upside is tantalizing.

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    29

    Jaylon Johnson, CB

    School: Utah | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 29

    Johnson offers an enticing size/speed combination for the position. He plays a lot of press-bail technique, but also flashes a firm two-hand jam. He is very fluid to open up and has plenty of long speed to carry vertical routes. He also excels when he slides inside to cover the slot. He was rarely challenged down the field in the games I studied. His ball production was outstanding in 2018 and opposing teams chose to avoid him last fall. He is very aggressive versus the run. He closes quickly before coming to balance and delivering firm tackles. Overall, Johnson is very talented and should be a Day 1 starter outside with the potential to cover in the slot as well.

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    30

    Yetur Gross-Matos, Edge

    School: Penn State | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 30

    Gross-Matos was a tall, long edge rusher for the Nittany Lions. He will stand up on the edge or launch out of his four-point stance. He is a very productive pass rusher. He doesn’t have an elite get-off, but he has very active hands and an array of moves. He has a quick swipe move, inside spin and he can also bend/wrap at the top of his rush. I’d like to see him develop more power, but he still has a lot to work with. He is very effective on loops and games. He does need to improve versus the run, as he sometimes plays too high and gets uprooted. Overall, Gross-Matos offers double-digit sack potential, but he does need to add strength at the next level.

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    31

    A.J. Terrell, CB

    School: Clemson | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 31

    Terrell is a tall, slender cornerback prospect with a strong resume in a variety of coverages and techniques. In press coverage, he uses an effective one-hand jam before turning and opening up. He can carry vertical routes with his speed, but he is a little bit sticky when he’s forced to gear down and come back downhill. In off coverage, he has a quick pedal, but there is a brief pause in his plant/drive. He has very good ball awareness down the field. He is a reliable tackler and an outstanding blitzer from the boundary corner spot. He had a rough outing against LSU in the national title game, but was otherwise very steady last season. Overall, Terrell has some tightness, but he’s a very solid player who should emerge as a quality No. 2 cornerback for his drafting team.

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    32

    Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB

    School: LSU | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 32

    Edwards-Helaire is a short, compact runner with quick feet, power and prowess in the passing game. On inside runs, he’s a quick-stepper with darting lateral agility to slide and avoid contact. He runs extremely low to the ground and is tough for opponents to square up. He drives his legs on contact and pulls out of a lot of tackles. He is quick to capture the perimeter and refuses to run out of bounds, choosing instead to fight for extra yards. He is outstanding in the passing game. He can line up anywhere in the formation and he runs clean/crisp routes. He catches the ball outside his frame very smoothly and he’s outstanding after the catch. His ability to start/stop in space is elite. He is rarely used in pass protection because of his value out in the route. Overall, Edwards-Helaire has a very similar skill set to Austin Ekeler — I envision a similar role/results at the next level.

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    33

    Marlon Davidson, Edge

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    School: Auburn | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: 34

    Davidson has average height and a thick/square build. He typically lined up at defensive end for the Tigers, but also possesses the ability to slide inside. As a pass rusher, he is devastating when he has a runway. He generates a lot of power in his bull rush and has an array of hand moves he can incorporate on the move. He doesn’t have an elite get-off, but he wins in the ways just mentioned. He destroys tight ends with his strength and power combination. Against the run, he uses his length to stack blocks, and his effort to pursue is outstanding. Overall, Davidson has some inside/outside flexibility and his production should carry over to the next level.

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    34

    Zack Baun, LB

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    School: Wisconsin | Year: Senior (RS)
    Previous rank: 33

    Baun is a slightly undersized outside linebacker with excellent athleticism and versatility. He spends a lot of time playing over tight ends and gets the best of them in the run and pass games. As a rusher, he has a good initial burst and can really bend at the top of his rush. He has a nifty inside counter move and he can get skinny before closing on the quarterback. He mixes in a stutter/bull rush, but usually stalls out after generating some push. He is very athletic as a dropper in coverage. He is very good as a back-side run defender because of his burst and effort. Teams will differ on where to play him at the next level. He reminds me of former USC LB Uchenna Nwosu, someone whose versatility the Chargers have tapped into. I’d do the same with Baun.

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    35

    Jonathan Taylor, RB

    School: Wisconsin | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 35

    Taylor is an ultra-productive running back with outstanding strength and speed. On inside runs, he’s sudden, carries his pads low to the ground and shows the balance to bounce off tacklers while keeping his legs alive. He isn’t overly shifty, but he avoids taking flush hits and he always falls forward for extra yardage. He has plenty of speed to capture the edge and once he gets in space, he can run away from the crowd. In the passing game, he is very effective on screens, where he can set up his blocks and collect big chunks of yardage. He trusts his hands and attacks the ball when he’s out in the route. He didn’t have a lot of reps in pass protection in the games I studied. Overall, Taylor is an explosive home run hitter with upside in the passing game.

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    36

    Laviska Shenault, WR

    School: Colorado | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 36

    Shenault is arguably the best athlete in the entire draft class. He is tall with a thick, muscular build. He lined up everywhere in Colorado’s offense — out wide, in the slot, at running back and he even took snaps as a Wildcat quarterback. Shenault isn’t a nuanced route runner, but he is a monster with the ball in his hands. He excels on quick hitters, fly sweeps and vertical routes. He has strong hands and his transition into a running back is immediate after the catch. He steps through tacklers and has a burst to finish. He is very competitive. Overall, Shenault comes with some durability concerns and will need time to develop into a fully polished wideout, but he can have an immediate impact for a creative offensive coordinator. He’s too big, strong and fast to not contribute. His drafting team just has to figure it out.

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    37

    J.K. Dobbins, RB

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    School: Ohio State | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 40

    Dobbins is a compact running back with tremendous power, balance and instincts. He is at his best on inside runs. He doesn’t hesitate, accelerating into contact and breaking a ton of tackles. He has a nifty inside spin move and can make second- and third-level defenders miss in space. He has enough speed to get to the perimeter, but he always looks to turn upfield as soon as possible. In the passing attack, he is effective in the screen game, but he has more work to do as a route runner. He had two tough drops vs. Clemson in the College Football Playoff, but he was reliable in every other game I studied. He is very aware in pass protection — he can drop his weight and anchor linebackers. Overall, Dobbins’ game should translate very well to the next level. He’ll be a dependable starter immediately.

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    Cesar Ruiz, C

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    School: Michigan | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 37

    Ruiz is an extremely consistent, physical and aware center. In pass protection, he has a tight punch and immediate anchor. His lower body is outrageously strong. He is very aware vs. twists/stunts. He lacks elite foot quickness, but he doesn’t have any issues sliding and redirecting to stay square vs. defenders. In the run game, he latches and runs his feet to create movement. He is outstanding on combo blocks, staying under control, locating and walling off linebackers. His lack of foot quickness shows up on outside pulls. Overall, Ruiz reminds me of Travis Frederick coming out of Wisconsin.

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    39

    Joshua Jones, OT

    School: Houston | Year: Senior (RS)
    Previous rank: 39

    Jones lined up at left tackle for the Cougars. He has the ideal frame and length for the position. In pass pro, he is very smooth and efficient in his set. He isn’t overly explosive, but he has enough foot quicks to kick out and cover up speed rushes. He has a firm punch and he does a nice job replacing his hands when they get knocked down. He does play a little high and that impacts his ability to redirect versus up-and-under moves. In the run game, he can create movement on down blocks and is effective at the second level. He shows awareness against both run and pass. Overall, Jones has some games where he looks like a top-15 player (see: the Oklahoma tape), but he needs to play with better knee bend on a consistent basis. He should be a solid, dependable starter early in his career.

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    40

    Grant Delpit, S

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    School: LSU | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 38

    Delpit is a tall, fast free safety who also possesses the ability to play in the slot. From the deep middle, he trusts his eyes and explodes to the ball, whether run or pass. He has outstanding range and I trust his ball skills. His numbers dropped this past season, but that was the result of some nagging injuries. He is fluid and smooth when lined up in the slot. He is aggressive as a force defender, but he has too many fly-by missed tackles. Everyone at the school raves about his leadership and intangibles. Overall, Delpit needs to clean up some tackling issues, but he has Pro Bowl potential at free safety.

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    41

    Cole Kmet, TE

    School: Notre Dame | Year: Junior
    Previous rank: 41

    Kmet has an ideal frame for the TE position. He lined up inline and flexed out in Notre Dame’s offense. In the passing game, he has good speed and does a lot of damage working in the seams. He uses his big frame to wall off defenders and pluck the ball in traffic (see: Georgia game). He isn’t very polished or nuanced at the top of his route. He is at his best when he stays on the move instead of working back to the quarterback. He is physical after the catch, but he doesn’t provide much wiggle or elusiveness. In the run game, he can effectively shield and wall off at the point of attack, and he takes good angles working up to the second level. Kmet was the closer on Notre Dame’s baseball team and should make major strides now that he’s solely focused on football. Overall, Kmet isn’t a dynamic player, but he’s going to get stronger. I see him as a reliable, long-term starter at the position.

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    42

    Jeff Gladney, CB

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    School: TCU | Year: Senior (RS)
    Previous rank: 46

    Gladney lacks ideal size/bulk for the position, but he excels because of his blend of quickness and feistiness. He plays outside and inside. He is at his best in off coverage, where he uses a quick, fluid pedal before efficiently planting and driving on balls thrown in front of him. He doesn’t waste steps. He is always in good position, but will get walled off at times by bigger wideouts. When he does press, he usually sits at 2 yards and carries his hands low before trying to catch wideouts and re-route them. His overall ball awareness is very good. He does a good job coming to balance before tackling runners and he’s also an effective blitzer. Gladney needs to get a little stronger, but I love his scheme versatility and toughness.

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    43

    Kristian Fulton, CB

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    School: LSU | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: 42

    Fulton has good size for the position and he’s very fluid, smart and competitive. In press coverage, he switches up his technique. He’s primarily patient, but he’ll occasionally land a quick two-hand jam. He lacks elite top speed and he’s had some issues timing his leap on jump balls down the field. From off coverage, he’s very aware and shows some pop out of his plant/drive. He is very aggressive in run support. He fights through blocks and is very reliable in space. Overall, Fulton has some flaws, but I’ll bet on his intangibles and toughness.

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    44

    Jeremy Chinn, LB

    1

    School: Southern Illinois | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: 43

    Chinn is a fun player to study. He lined up all over the field in SIU’s scheme. He has an outstanding blend of size, speed and instincts. He is at his best when he’s in the box as a down safety/nickel linebacker. He has tremendous range to make plays sideline to sideline. He can locate and play the ball naturally (see: the high-point INT vs. UMass). He does have a little tightness when he’s in space, but he recovers quickly. He is a very firm/reliable tackler. Overall, I believe Chinn is ideally suited to play WLB at the next level. He is exactly what teams are looking for in today’s NFL.

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    45

    Justin Madubuike, DT

    1

    School: Texas A&M | Year: Junior (RS)
    Previous rank: 44

    Madubuike is a strong, versatile defensive lineman. He aligns at every spot along the defensive front, but he’s best suited as a 3-technique (on the edge of the guard). Against the pass, he is very quick to shoot his hands and generate knock-back. He has a quick club/rip move and is very adept at working through half the opponent instead of rushing down their numbers. His effort is outstanding. He is a dominant run defender. He excels at stacking blockers, separating and locating the football. Overall, Madubuike isn’t an elite pass rusher, but he’s impactful and can dominate on early downs.

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    46

    Denzel Mims, WR

    1

    School: Baylor | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: 45

    Mims is a tall, rangy wideout with exceptional burst and body control. He uses his quickness and burst to escape press coverage, excelling on vertical routes down the field. He tracks the ball naturally and wins a bunch of 50/50 balls. He will need some time to develop as a complete route runner. He simply wasn’t asked to run a large variety of routes in Baylor’s offense. After the catch, he is slippery and elusive, but he isn’t going to break many tackles. Overall, Mims is a big-play generator on the outside and has all of the tools to develop into a complete receiver.

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    47

    Antoine Winfield Jr., S

    School: Minnesota | Year: Sophomore (RS)
    Previous rank: 47

    Winfield is an undersized safety prospect with outstanding instincts and ball skills. His movement skills are very smooth and easy from the back end. He does a nice job playing over the top. He keeps everything in front of him, collecting a bunch of picks on tips and overthrows. He also spends a lot of time covering in the slot. He has enough speed to carry vertical routes down the field and he is also an excellent blitzer. As a tackler, he usually comes to balance, settles his feet and wraps up. Overall, there is some concern due to size and durability (missed time in 2017 and 2018 due to injury), but Winfield is a playmaker from the deep middle and his ability to match up in the slot is a bonus.

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    48

    Michael Pittman Jr., WR

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    School: USC | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: NR

    Pittman is a tall, muscular wideout who had excellent production for the Trojans. He lines up out wide and he uses his upper-body strength to power through press coverage. He builds speed as he goes and he is a jump-ball specialist down the field. He high points the ball consistently and big brothers opposing cornerbacks routinely. He doesn’t have elite speed, but he’s very efficient getting in and out of breaks for such a big receiver. He is at his best after the catch, when his competitiveness and strength form a winning combination. He refuses to go down on first contact. Pittman has earned a reputation as one of the best special teams players in the country for his ability to cover and block punts. Overall, Pittman reminds me a lot of current Charger Mike Williams, and he can make an impact on all four downs because of his special teams value.

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    49

    Trevon Diggs, CB

    1

    School: Alabama | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: 48

    Diggs has elite size, athleticism and ball skills. (He also played wide receiver and returned kicks during his career at Alabama.) He uses an effective one-hand jam in press before opening up and staying on the hip. He’s fluid for such a big cornerback. It’s important for him to stay in phase with the wideout because he lacks elite recovery speed. From off coverage, he reads through the wide receiver to the quarterback and has a good feel for jumping routes and making plays. His ball skills are outstanding — as you’d expect, considering his brother is Stefon Diggs. He does need to improve as a tackler in space. Overall, Diggs has some room to develop, but he will excite teams looking for a big cornerback to match up with guys like Mike Evans and Courtland Sutton.

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    50

    Jalen Hurts, QB

    School: Oklahoma | Year: Senior
    Previous rank: 50

    Hurts is slightly undersized for the position, but his production, poise and playmaking ability are very impressive. He has crisp footwork in his drop and he throws from a very firm platform. He has a quick release and generates excellent velocity on drive throws. Hurts flashed the ability to touch the ball up, but his ball placement still needs to improve. His vision and anticipation are other areas that need work. He’s an outstanding runner, both on designed runs and when pressured. He gains ground quickly and runs through contact consistently. I love his competitiveness and toughness. Overall, Hurts must continue to improve in the passing game, but I’m going to bet on his eventual success due to his playmaking skills and overall competitiveness.

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    51

    Jordan Brooks, LB

    School: Texas Tech | Year: Senior

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    Lloyd Cushenberry, C

    3

    School: LSU | Year: Junior (RS)

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    53

    Ezra Cleveland, OT

    School: Boise State | Year: Junior (RS)

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    54

    Logan Wilson, LB

    School: Wyoming | Year: Senior

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    Cam Akers, RB

    School: Florida State | Year: Junior

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    56

    Jalen Reagor, WR

    School: TCU | Year: Junior

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    57

    KJ Hamler, WR

    School: Penn State | Year: Sophomore (RS)

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    58

    Josh Uche, LB

    School: Michigan | Year: Junior (RS)

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    59

    Damon Arnette, CB

    School: Ohio State | Year: Senior (RS)

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    60

    Robert Hunt, OT

    School: Louisiana-Lafayette | Year: Senior (RS)

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    61

    Matt Hennessy, C

    School: Temple | Year: Junior (RS)

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    62

    Willie Gay, LB

    School: Mississippi State | Year: Junior

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    63

    Saahdiq Charles, OT

    School: LSU | Year: Junior

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    64

    Jacob Eason, QB

    School: Washington | Year: Junior (RS)

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    65

    Neville Gallimore, DT

    School: Oklahoma | Year: Senior (RS)

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    66

    Isaiah Wilson, OT

    School: Georgia | Year: Sophomore (RS)

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    67

    Jordan Elliott, DT

    School: Missouri | Year: Junior (RS)

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    68

    Adam Trautman, TE

    School: Dayton | Year: Senior (RS)

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    69

    Van Jefferson, WR

    School: Florida | Year: Senior (RS)

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    70

    Jake Fromm, QB

    School: Georgia | Year: Junior

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    71

    Harrison Bryant, TE

    School: Florida Atlantic | Year: Senior

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    72

    Chase Claypool, WR

    School: Notre Dame | Year: Senior

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    73

    Noah Igbinoghene, CB

    School: Auburn | Year: Junior

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    74

    Kyle Dugger, S

    School: Lenoir-Rhyne | Year: Senior

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    75

    Bradlee Anae, Edge

    School: Utah | Year: Senior

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    76

    Malik Harrison, LB

    School: Ohio State | Year: Senior

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    77

    Curtis Weaver, Edge

    School: Boise State | Year: Junior (RS)

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    78

    John Hightower, WR

    School: Boise State | Year: Senior

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    Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR

    School: Liberty | Year: Senior

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    80

    Devin Duvernay, WR

    School: Texas | Year: Senior

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    School: Kansas | Year: Senior

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    LAtimes:https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-17/malaria-drugs-fails-to-help-coronavirus-patients-in-controlled-studies
    Malaria drugs fail to help coronavirus patients in controlled studies

    By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
    April 17, 2020
    3:08 PM

    The malaria drugs touted by President Trump as potentially “the biggest game changers in the history of medicine” have received a decidedly more sober assessment of their coronavirus-fighting potential from researchers in China, France and Brazil.

    Both chloroquine and its close relative hydroxychloroquine offered signs that they may ease some of the hallmark symptoms of coronavirus infection in patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19. But the drugs largely failed to deliver improvements on other key measures when evaluated in rigorous research studies.

    In research done in France, hydroxychloroquine reduced neither deaths nor admissions to intensive care units among patients who received it. In a study conducted in China and another in Brazil, the two drugs failed to help patients clear the coronavirus faster.

    And in Brazil, two deaths and a rash of heart troubles among patients who got a high dose of chloroquine prompted a hasty alteration of the trial there after just 13 days. Concluding that “enough red flags” had been raised, the researchers halted testing of the drug in its extra-strength form.

    “My own impression so far is that these medications are a colossal ‘Maybe,’” said Dr. Michael H. Pillinger, a professor of medicine at New York University and chief of rheumatology at the Veterans Affairs’ New York Harbor Healthcare System.

    “Is there enough possible benefit that we could use these on a wing and prayer until something better comes along? I’m underwhelmed” by the evidence for that, Pillinger said.

    In the Brazil study, two of the 37 patients who were getting high doses of chloroquine developed ventricular tachycardia, a dangerous heart arrhythmia that led to their deaths. Five other patients in this arm of the trial developed QT interval prolongation, a condition that makes the heart’s electrical system slower to recharge between beats. It can cause the heart to beat erratically, also raising the risk of sudden death.

    The death toll among patients who were randomly assigned to receive high-dose chloroquine did not rise above that in a comparison group of patients who did not get the drug. But researchers had set out to establish that high-dose chloroquine would save lives. When it failed to do so, they concluded the risks of cardiac side effects could not be justified.

    “Preliminary findings suggest that the higher chloroquine dosage should not be recommended for COVID-19 treatment because of its potential safety hazards,” the study authors wrote in a report posted Thursday to MedRxiv, a clearinghouse for preliminary research results.

    After the two deaths, the remaining 39 patients were switched to a lower dose of chloroquine, which was already being tested in 40 other patients. All would be tracked for an additional 13 days, with results still to come.

    Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has allied himself closely with President Trump and has echoed his extravagant claims about chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. He has ordered the Brazilian army to ramp up its orders of chloroquine and told the public that the malaria drugs “could go down in history as having saved thousands of lives in Brazil.”

    The authors of the Brazil study, which was conducted in the Amazonian city of Manaus, suggested that Bolsonaro’s support complicated their efforts to test the drugs as rigorously as they would have liked.

    Normally, they would have conducted a head-to-head comparison by randomly assigning some people to get the drugs while others received a dummy pill, or placebo. But since the drugs have been “recommended at the national level,” the researchers were unable to assign anyone to a group that would not get chloroquine. Instead, they used “historical data from the literature to infer comparisons.”

    The French study of hydroxychloroquine, posted Tuesday to MedRxiv, followed a more conventional design. Researchers there enrolled 181 COVID-19 patients who were admitted to four French hospitals over the last two weeks of March, then compared the outcomes of 84 people who quickly received hydroxychloroquine to 91 patients who never received the drug. (Patients in both groups got a range of other treatments, including antiviral medications, corticosteroids and breathing support.)

    The researchers found that treatment with hydroxychloroquine did not reduce the likelihood that a COVID-19 patient would die or be admitted to the intensive care unit within a week of hospital admission. Nor did it drive down a patient’s likelihood of developing serious breathing problems.

    Hydroxychloroquine did, however, raise some risks. Eight of the 84 patients who got hydroxychloroquine experienced changes in heart rhythm that required discontinuation of the drug, and another patient developed a related heart-rhythm disorder.

    “The negative clinical results of this study argue against the widespread use of hydroxychloroquine in patients with COVID-19 pneumonia,” the French researchers concluded.

    Chinese researchers were just a bit more encouraging.

    Their study, also posted to MedRxiv on Tuesday, found that COVID-19 patients who got hydroxychloroquine were no better at clearing the coronavirus from their systems than patients who didn’t get the drug. And at the 28-day mark, patients in both groups had the same number of symptoms.

    But two weeks after admission to the hospital, patients who got hydroxychloroquine reported they felt better than their counterparts who did not. And they appeared to have lower levels of inflammation — a symptom of COVID-19 that can escalate and lead to death if unchecked. (In fact, in doses much lower than those tested in the COVID-19 trials, hydroxychloroquine is used to treat autoimmune diseases such as lupus and rheumatoid arthritis because of its anti-inflammatory effects.)

    Also, while 30% of the patients who got hydroxychloroquine reported a side effect, just 9% of patients in the comparison group did so. None of these side effects appeared to be heart-related.

    The Chinese researchers referred to “shreds of evidence” that support the hope that hydroxychloroquine could help patients fend off bouts of inflammation that can damage the lungs and other organs.

    But researchers in the United States cautioned that the small number of patients in the studies, their hurried execution and the difficulty of assessing any drug during a medical crisis made all of the findings far from definitive. And it doesn’t help that the drugs have become political footballs, they added.

    “We kind of have the red pill people and the blue pill people,” said Dr. Michael J. Ackerman, a Mayo Clinic cardiologist who was among the first to warn that the malaria drugs can dangerously disturb heart rhythms. “I don’t think either side now has the ammunition to say these drugs do or don’t work,” he added.

    Yale University cardiologist Harlan Krumholz agreed. He noted that the studies, none of which has been vetted in a traditional peer-review process, “can’t exclude large effects in either direction. They leave us a little bit where we started.”

    But there is a troubling signal in these and previous studies, and they create a challenge for those who would advocate use of the malaria drugs, he said.

    When a drug that could be widely used poses potentially deadly dangers to the heart, “we will need a strong amount of evidence that they provide benefit,” Krumholz said. “At the moment, there is no evidence” for that, he added.

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    I agree about the fan viruses. Can be benign or highly dangerous. The Rams virus, for instance, doesn’t cause too much misery, unless it mutates into its Warner/Bulger form, in which case patients end up throwing various virtual and inanimate objects at each other…

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    Ahh. I see you call it the Warner/Bulger Virus. Only an Evil Warnerite would call it the Warner/Bulger virus. The fact is it was the Bulger/Warner Virus.

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    You West Virginians always stick together, doncha!!

    ;>)

    All seriousness aside, I actually thought Bulger was the one unfairly bashed (at the time) in that food fight. Now, I just wish it had never happened.

    Fan boards all over the world were in turmoil. Massive Armeys were conscripted, taking the planet to the brink of annihilation. Trillions of dollars spent, bankrupting future generations forever. Assassinations, coups, black ops galore, not to mention all the Martzian professors and activists blackballed by the notorious HUACT investigations.

    Dozens of those poor sots never recovered once Mike McCarthy formed his House Un-American Coryell Tree mob.

    Sheesh. Easily one of the worst periods in American history. Easily. We can only look back at it in shame.

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    I agree about the fan viruses. Can be benign or highly dangerous. The Rams virus, for instance, doesn’t cause too much misery, unless it mutates into its Warner/Bulger form, in which case patients end up throwing various virtual and inanimate objects at each other…

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    Ahh. I see you call it the Warner/Bulger Virus. Only an Evil Warnerite would call it the Warner/Bulger virus. The fact is it was the Bulger/Warner Virus.

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    I have a theory, myself. I think a Virus wiped out the Dinosaurs. It was a meteor-virus. A big meteor landed and there was an alien corona-virus on it.
    And that was that.

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    They didn’t have a vaccine for the Spanish Flu, and it took 3 years to go away. (Probably because it mutated into something more benign, like, for example, dedicated football fandom).

    I agree about the fan viruses. Can be benign or highly dangerous. The Rams virus, for instance, doesn’t cause too much misery, unless it mutates into its Warner/Bulger form, in which case patients end up throwing various virtual and inanimate objects at each other, in hopes of deeply wounding or even killing their prey; or, if the Saints virus mutates into the badcall virus, wherein referees are chased out of New Orleans like poor little coyotes; or the Patriots virus, when it becomes mugholtbrucefaulkitis. That one pretty much devastated millions across the land.

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    Its being used in two London hospitals now, fwiw.

    NHS:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211717/Malaria-drug-championed-Donald-Trump-used-coronavirus-patients-NHS-wards.html

    “..Hydroxychloroquine is being used at Barts in London and the Royal Devon and Exeter to keep critically ill coronavirus patients alive.

    President Trump described the drug as a ‘game changer’ and it has been added to the Chinese guidance for tackling the disease, but up until now the NHS has strongly discouraged its use….”

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    SLF

    A friend of mine has both parents that have tested positive. Paraphrasing from his Facebook and a few texts I had with him.

    -we’ve all heard about the loss of appetite and smell. As a result both parents slowed their eating.

    -that messed with their blood sugar, potassium, sodium and other levels

    -the problem is COVID-19 seems to then make it tough for the doctors/nurses to dial things back in. Under normal conditions they can adjust, but Coronavirus is throwing things for a loop when trying to get things like blood sugar right. Experienced medical professionals with decades of experience are now having problems getting patients back to correct ranges.

    -then the cascade effect hits as heart attacks, strokes and other issues hit as a result of their blood numbers being off.

    His dad had a stroke yesterday and his mom might have this morning.

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    In reply to: draft talk (April)

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    My 2020 250 player Big Board

    A few notes before I get to the list:

    1. I have seen every player. Some guys I have only seen in the Shrine Game. Others I have seen a ton. So my grading is not perfect.

    2. This is a board built from a scoring system and not where I think they will land in the draft. That is a predictive board. So I get Joe Burrow is going #1 and not where I have him. Its where he scored.

    3. As far as scoring, its new to me, and I altered it from last year. I grade a player on several categories (depending on position) on a 1-10 scale. Injuries now do come into play. Some red flags from off the field as well.

    4. My top 10 lists per position are coming.

    5. I summarized each player to give you an idea of their strengths and weaknesses, if you see one with too many comments one way or the other, it doesn’t mean he should be higher or lower.

    6. ask any questions you like.

    1. Chase Young – Edge – Ohio St. – 6′-5″ 264 lbs. – Size/speed/strength/athleticism. He is the total package in a prototypical 43 DE body.

    2. Jeff Okudah – CB – Ohio St. – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Big, quick, fast, smooth and physical. Perfect fit in a press man system, but will work in off man and zone.

    3. Derrick Brown – IDL -Auburn – 6′-4″ 326 lbs. – Explosive, strong, excellent hand fighter and has an all-day motor. Total package.

    4. Isaiah Simmons – LB – Clemson – 6′-4″ 238 lbs. – ILB, Safety, CB, Edge. Kid can do it all with his blend of elite speed, athleticism and strength. In a league wanting more do it all types, he may be the best of them all.

    5. Jedrick Wills – OT – Alabama – 6′-4″ 312 lbs. – Played RT to protect a lefty QB. He can dominate you power wise and has plenty of juice to move, slide hit and rinse repeat. Oh and he is a technician as well as a mauler…

    6. Jerry Jeudy – WR – Alabama – 6′-1″ 193 lbs. – Excellent hands, excellent route runner and electric speed. Everything you want in a #1 WR.

    7. Tristan Wirfs – OT – Iowa – 6′-5″ 320 lbs. – Some think he’s an OG. They are wrong. Athletic and powerful with good technique. He can play either side and be a 10 year rock star.

    8. CeeDee Lamb -WR – Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 198 lbs. – a size/speed WR that is an absolute terror in the open field. Excellent hands are just the cherry on top. Could use some strength.

    9. K’Lavon Chaisson – Edge – LSU – 6′-4″ 254 lbs. – My top 34 Edge. Speed to power guy with plenty of athletic ability and a leader mentality. Good motor as well. 3 down edge.

    10. Mekhi Becton – OT – Louisville – 6′-7″ 357 lbs. – The Mountain. He is a physical rarity. He is fast, strong big and agile. Has had issues maintaining his weight in the past.

    11. Javon Kinlaw – IDL -South Carolina – 6′-5″ 324 lbs. – Another big, explosive lineman that can get after it. may have some character concerns.

    12. Kristian Fulton – CB – LSU – 6′-0″ 197 lbs. – Good size to go with a smooth, athletic profile. Always under control and doesn’t panic. Another press man CB.

    13. Kenneth Murray – LB – Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 241 lbs. – Sideline to sideline ILBer with power and everything you want in a defensive leader.

    14. Joe Burrow – QB – LSU – 6′-3″ 221 lbs. – Above average in most categories. Elite movement in and manipulation of the pocket makes him special. Prototypical size helps.

    15. Andrew Thomas – OT – Georgia – 6′-5″ 315 lbs. – Not the athlete the top 3 are, but if hands are on you, be prepared to eat dirt. Excellent hands combined with that power makes for a long day against the run.

    16. Tua Tagovailoa – QB – Alabama – 6′-0″ 217 lbs. – Love his athletic ability, accuracy to all levels and competitiveness. Injury history drops him a slot.

    17. Grant Delpit – S – LSU – 6′-2″ 213 lbs. – Single high is the safety everyone wants, and Delpit is an excellent single high with great range, smooth change of direction and can drop into the box and blitz.

    18. C.J. Henderson – CB – Florida – 6′-1″ 204 lbs. – Explosive, smooth and fast, he has a ballhawk mentality. Didn’t want to tackle this year. Business decision? Off man or zone corner.

    19. Patrick Queen – LB – LSU – 6′-1″ 229 lbs. – A new age ILBer that can run, cover and hit. His lack of length is a bit of a concern.

    20. Xavier McKinney – S – Alabama – 6′-0″ 201 lbs. – Not a single high, but a tough nosed moveable chess piece that wins everywhere on the field.

    21. Laviska Shenault Jr. – WR – Colorado – 6′-1″ 227 lbs. – A physical, workhorse that just punishes defenders in the open field. Injuries are a concern.

    22. A.J. Epenesa – Edge – Iowa – 6′-6″ 275 lbs. – A bit stiff, but he works, strong as a bull and I think he gives you End work on early downs and moves inside on 3rds.

    23. Henry Ruggs III – WR – Alabama – 5′-11″ 188 lbs. – Here’s your HR threat. a pure speed machine that won’t wow you with his route running ability.

    24. Neville Gallimore – IDL – Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 304 lbs. – Good athlete with power, all day motor and tough. Not as dynamic as a pass rusher as the top 2 guys.

    25. Cesar Ruiz – IOL – Michigan – 6′-3″ 307 lbs. – Zone or man, excellent pass blocker, can play OG or OC. Best combo of size/strength and athletic ability in the IOL group. I like him as a Zone scheme OC.

    26. Justin Herbert – QB – Oregon – 6′-6″ 236 lbs. – Big kid, big arm. Needs to fix some mechanics involving his legs. I worry he isn’t a natural leader.

    27. Jonathan Taylor – RB – Wisconsin – 5′-10″ 226 lbs. – A workhorse back with HR speed and excellent vision. Pass catching is his worst trait, and its fine.

    28. Yetur Gross-Matos – Edge – Penn St. – 6′-5″ 266 lbs. – Raw, but the tools spill out of his toolbox. 43 DE. Love his length and explosiveness from a 3 point stance. high ceiling.

    29. D’Andre Swift – RB – Georgia – 5′-8″ 212 lbs. – Bellcow back with excellent footwork and balance, HR speed and can catch passes. Not a between the tackles type.

    30. Trevon Diggs – CB – Alabama – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Brother to Stephon, he is a zone/man cb prospect with excellent footwork and fluid movement skills. Add that to his length and he is a handful.

    31. Antoine Winfield Jr. – S – Minnesota – 5′-9″ 203 lbs. – Undersized ballhawking, instinctual and extremely physical S. Again, not a sigle high, and more of a halves type safety.

    32. Tee Higgins – WR – Clemson – 6′-4″ 216 lbs. – a highpoint, catch radius WR that wins at all levels of the field, but is at his best winning 50/50. Good, not great speed.

    33. JK Dobbins – RB – Ohio State – 5′-9″ 210 lbs. – Inside out back that can catch passes, extremely tough after first contact and can go the distance. I wish he was a tad bigger.

    34. Noah Igbinoghene – CB – Auburn – 5′-10″ 198 lbs. – Former WR turned college CB, so he needs to be developed, but he is ultra fast, explosive and just an overall smooth athlete. Zone or man fit.

    35. Ross Blacklock – IDL – TCU – 6′-4″ 290 lbs. – Incredible feet with good power has him in gaps consistently. Not the fastest react time. Achilles injury 2 years ago.

    36. Jordan Love – QB – Utah State – 6′-4″ 224 lbs. – I don’t get the Mahommes comp., He pressed bigtime this year and struggled. Big time athlete with big arm.

    37. Justin Jefferson – WR – LSU – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Good route runner, good hands, good speed, good blocker. Not explosive, but gets open, makes catches and scores.

    38. Jeff Gladney – CB – TCU – 5′-10″ – 191 lbs. – Physical, hard-nosed press man CB with excellent speed. More than willing to help against the run.

    39. Josh Jones – OT – Houston – 6′-5″ 319 lbs. – Super athlete with great feet, decent anchor that would work best in a zone scheme. Not the dog the top 4 are, but still will get after it.

    40. Van Jefferson – WR – Florida – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – A route running technician, good hands and is OK in the open field. Not explosive and not what I would call a HR threat.

    41. Justin Madubuike – IDL – Texas A&M – 6′-3″ 293 lbs. – An explosive, penetrating type DT with good strength that needs to be more consistent.

    42. Austin Jackson – OT – USC – 6′-5″ 322 lbs. – Lost time/strength due to helping his sister with a medical issue. He may need a year, but a full toolbox with a good balance of strength and agility.

    43. Clyde Edwards-Helaire – RB – LSU – 5′-7″ 207 lbs. – An easy mover with a powerful lower half. May lack the size to handle a full NFL load.

    44. Lucas Niang – OT – TCU – 6′-6″ 315 lbs. – Another nice power/athletic combo blocker that plays with a nice edge. Injury slowed him some, and needs to get consistent.

    45. Lloyd Cushenberry – IOL – LSU – 6′-3″ 312 lbs. – Another OG/OC candidate. Strong and tough, not as mobile as the other top OCs. Really improved over the year.

    46. Terrell Lewis – Alabama – 6′-5″ 262 lbs. – Another high ceiling guy with injury history. Loooong levered. Smooth. Stong. 34 Edge

    47. Marlon Davidson – IDL – Auburn – 6′-3″ 303 lbs. – 3T or 34 DE. I like him as a penetrating DE in a 34 that can also hold his own against the run. Big time motor.

    48. Jalen Reagor – WR – Arizona State – 5′-11′ 206 lbs. – He’s a jittery HR hitter that is electric deep or in the open field. His hands are iffy IMO, or he’d be higher on my list.

    49. Kyle Dugger – S – Lenoir-Rhyne – 6′-1″ 217 lbs. – Small school kid. Great size and athletic profile that can play free or strong. Excellent blitzer and played really well at the Senior Bowl. Will need some coaching.

    50. Donovan Peoples-Jones – WR – Michigan – 6′-2″ 212 lbs. – Good hands and an excellent athlete. Underused in that woeful Mich. offense. He is more of a projection due to lack of production.

    51. Denzel Mims – WR – Baylor – 6′-3″ 207 lbs. – Big, strong with decent speed. He can go up and get it. A real 50/50 ball stud. Lacks any real route running.

    52. Zack Baun – Edge – Wisconsin – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – A bit smaller edge, but he is smart, relentless and refined. Will have trouble against the run due to size. I think he works best as a LBer you move around inside early, out late.

    53. Ashtyn Davis – S – California – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – A physical safety that works in a variety of sets, works best when he’s free to roam in a zone and make plays.

    54. Matt Hennessy – IOL – Temple – 6′-4″ 307 lbs. – A OZS OC that is an excellent mover with great technique. Needs to get stronger, but IQ and skill set are outstanding. Reminds me of Garrett Bradbury.

    55. Damon Arnette – CB – Ohio St. – 6′-0″ 195 lbs. – Easy moving, physical press man CB with very good instincts.

    56. Jeremy Chinn – S – Southern Illinois – 6′-3″ 221 lbs. – Simmons-lite in a safety body. he could be a LBer a S or an edge rusher with crazy athleticism. Love his physicality and the fact that he is always around the ball.

    57. Cam Akers – RB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 217 lbs. – Another feature back buried on a horrible offense. Does a little of everything., but he’s a downhill 1 cut style power back at his best.

    58. K.J. Hamler – WR – Penn State – 5′-9″ 178 lbs. – Electrifying. In the open field as dangerous as any WR in the draft. Hands can be iffy, and he is small, but a HR hitter and someone a defense needs to plan for.

    59. Julian Okwara – Edge – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 252 lbs. – A 34 Edge with a nice blend of explosiveness and flexibility. Needs to get stronger against the run.

    60. A.J. Terrell – CB – Clemson – 6′-1″ 195 lbs. – Fast, big press man that needs to rely on his skill set and not resort to getting so handsy. This is football, not the backseat of your dads Olds on date night.

    61. Jordyn Brooks – LB – Texas Tech – 6′-1″ 240 lbs. – An absolute heat seeking missile that is devastating going downhill, lacks pass coverage reps. Sideline to sideline.

    62. Brandon Aiyuk – WR – Arizona State – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Another big play waiting to happen. Can take the top off the defense and is slippery in the open field. Not a very nuanced route runner, hands are OK.

    63. Josh Uche – Edge – Michigan – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – Smaller edge that will have issues against the run. but he is a flexy, bursty little dude that is also good in space.

    64. Jonah Jackson – IOL – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 306 lbs. – A technician with decent strength that can play anywhere on the inside. Needs to be more consistent. Plays with an edge.

    65. Troy Pride – CB – Notre Dame – 5′-11″ 193 lbs. – Under-rated athletically, has good speed and can work in man and zone coverages. A perfect #2 CB.

    66. Malik Harrison – LB – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Old school type MLBer that stuffs the run and plugs gaps. Quick to react, strong and will drop the hammer. Too stiff to contribute in a lot of coverage.

    67. Bryce Hall – CB – Virginia – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Long, physical and smart. Always taking good angles and is in the proper position. Not the world’s best athlete. he will outwork you. Zone CB.

    68. Brycen Hopkins – TE – Purdue – 6′-4″ 245 lbs. – Your prototypical new age TE. A mismatch problem in the middle of the field that is a smooth, easy mover. Not an inline blocker, I worry a bit about his hands.

    69. Jacob Eason – QB – Washington – 6′-6″ 231 lbs. – Biggest arm in the class, but is a statue and panics a little too easily for my taste.

    70. Jaylon Johnson – CB – Utah – 6′-0″ 193 lbs. – Decent size and speed that excels in man coverage. Fast to react and is a ballhawk. Smooth mover.

    71. Leki Fotu – IDL – Utah – 6′-4″ 330 lbs. – A monster NT with a little pass rush juice to him. Good motor and is almost impossible to move. Not the athletic freak Lawrence was last year.

    72. Ben Bartch – OT – St. Johns (MN) – 6′-6″ 309 lbs. – Small School prospect that held his own at Senior Bowl. TE turned OT. Athletic with a nice anchor, he needs seasoning. Arm length probably moves him inside.

    73. Cameron Dantzler – CB – Mississippi State – 6′-2″ 188 lbs. -a big CB that may move to S due to speed restrictions. I like him in press man, but his ability to sniff out routes should help in zone concepts as well.

    74. Eno Benjamin – RB – Arizona State – 5′-9″ 207 lbs. – Physical for his size, smooth lower half and can be slippery to tackle. Change of pace back only.

    75. Matt Peart – OT – Connecticut – 6′-7″ 318 lbs. – An easy moving OT with decent strength that again, could use a year or 2 learning and adding power, but there is no denying the skills are there.

    76. DaVon Hamilton – IDL – Ohio St. – 6′-4″ 320 lbs. – A powerhouse run defender that was never tasked to rush the passer. Early 2 down starter with the athletic profile to possibly add some inside pass rush.

    77. Jake Fromm – QB – Georgia – 6′-2″ 219 lbs. – Smartest QB in the draft, has a noodle for an arm and is a little on the small side.

    78. Robert Hunt – IOL – Louisiana-Lafayette – 6′-5″ 323 lbs. – 2nd nastiest OG in the draft. He is a punisher. Needs to be a little more patient, but he will finish on all levels.

    79. Jonathan Greenard – Edge – Florida – 6′-4″ 263 lbs. – I just love his athletic ability, balance against the run and pass and supposedly a hard worker off the field. Not the most flexible, but his length and strength make up for it. high floor, lower ceiling type.

    80. Alohi Gilman – S – Notre Dame – 5′-10″ 201 lbs. – A zone safety that is an absolute hammer coming forward. Another versatile player that can do a little of everything.

    81. Prince Tega Wanogho – OT – Auburn – 6′-5″ 308 lbs. – Surprise, an athletic, raw skilled LT from Auburn. He has elite tools, but needs a year learning and gaining strength.

    82. Curtis Weaver – Edge – Boise St. – 6′-3″ 265 lbs. – He could either be a 43 or 34. Lacks an ideal athletic profile, but has a hot motor, a good first step, active hands and handles his own against the run. Another high floor, lower ceiling type.

    83. Chase Claypool – WR – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 238 lbs. – A big possession WR, that wins contested catches, 50-50 balls and is tough in the redzone. Tested better then he plays, but is still a great athlete.

    84. Akeem Davis-Gaither – LB – Appalachian St. – 6′-2″ 224 lbs. – Highly productive WILL that plays fast, can cover and rush the QB. I like him outside in a 43, but maybe a MO in a 34…

    85. Raekwon Davis – IDL – Alabama – 6′-7″ 311 lbs. – a 34 DE, because he will get out-leveraged on the inside. powerful with a solid anchor against the run, pass rush potential is there, but never developed.

    86. Albert Okwuegbunam – TE – Missouri – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – Big target with enough athletic ability to create issues in the seam. A decent and willing blocker inline. Offense and QB really slowed down his progression.

    87. Darnay Holmes – CB – UCLA – 5′-10″ 195 lbs.– Smooth and quick are his calling cards. I wish he was more aggressive. off man or zone scheme fit.

    88. K’Von Wallace – S – Clemson – 5′-11″ 206 lbs. – Physical, will stick his face in the fan and has some nice ball production. Not overly athletic or fast, but versatile.

    89. Bryan Edwards – WR – South Carolina – 6′-3″ 212 lbs. – He wins with his size and physicality in the middle of the field. Not a burner, but plays hard and smart.

    90. Thaddeus Moss – TE – LSU – 6′-2″ 250 lbs. – Not the freakish athlete his dad was, but is a monster in the blocking game, is a nuanced route runner and knows how to get open. Competes hard.

    91. Troy Dye – LB – Oregon – 6′-4″ 231 lbs. – Another see ball, chase ball LBer that needs to add strength. But he makes plays all over the field.

    92. Antoine Brooks Jr. – S – Maryland – 5′-11″ 220 lbs. – Here is that big nickel LBer or third safety I have been talking about for the last year or so. best working around the box in sub packages. Physical, emotional and not extremely rangy.

    93. Cole Kmet – TE – Notre Dame – 6′-6″ 263 lbs. – Another size mismatch with decent athleticism. Should be a better blocker then he is. Good hands, decent route runner.

    94. Saahdiq Charles – OT – LSU – 6′-4″ 321 lbs. – A smooth mover with good athleticism, but lacks power. A move inside might be in his future. zone scheme prospect.

    95. Adam Troutman – TE – Dayton – 6′-5″ 255 lbs. – Exciting athlete that is new to being a TE. Extremely productive, but a raw skill set including route running. A plus blocker.

    96. Zack Moss – RB – Utah – 5′-9″ 223 lbs. – A big, bigtime power back with some wiggle to him. Hard to bring down. I like his footwork. Not a HR hitter and a 1 cut and go type back.

    97. Darrell Taylor – Edge – Tennessee – 6′-4″ 267 lbs. – Good athlete, with plenty of flex, decent get off and enough size to hold up against the run. hasn’t put it all together. High upside, high bust potential.

    98. Steven Montez – QB – Colorado – 6′-4″ 231 lbs. – Big arm, all the tools, has just never put it all together.

    99. Logan Stenberg – IOL – Kentucky – 6′-6″ 317 lbs. – Meanest, nastiest OG in the draft. Won’t win on style points and will talk your ear off. Not a great athlete.

    100. Tyler Biadasz – IOL – Wisconsin – 6′-4″ 314 lbs. – OC for any scheme. Excellent mover with a great anchor and good strength. Off season hip surgery slowed him down last season. Followed by shoulder surgery this off season. Could be a heck of a steal.

    101. Khalid Kareem – Edge – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 268 lbs. – Long and strong, excellent against the run, not much juice as a pass rusher. A bit stiff. 43 end only.

    102. Ezra Cleveland – OT – Boise State – 6′-6″ 311 lbs. – Absolute athlete for his size/length. Real smooth mover with light feet. Needs to add strength and needs technique work. I’d say an OZS LT right now.

    103. Rashard Lawrence – IDL – LSU – 6′-2″ – 308 lbs. – What you would expect in an LSU DL, tough, strong and excellent against the run. Doesn’t offer much in the way of a pass rush.

    104. Isaiah Wilson – OT – Georgia – 6′-6″ 350 lbs. – from the No duh file, dude is massive. An absolute mauler that is in desperate need of technique work. Right tackle.

    105. Jalen Hurts – QB – Oklahoma – 6′-1″ 221 lbs. – Athletic, alpha dog that has problems with seeing the whole field and accuracy issues. Needs to be coached up.

    106. Bradlee Anae – Edge – Utah – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Can rush the passer and hold his own against the run, excellent hand fighter, with a top-notch motor. Not the greatest athlete. 43 or 34 compatable.

    107. Hunter Bryant – TE – Washington – 6′-2″ 248 lbs. – Smooth moving, explosive pass catcher. Offers nothing in the way of blocking and his size won’t scare anyone.

    108. Larrell Murchison – IDL – NC State – 6′-2″ 297 lbs. – A nose for the ball with a great motor. Not the rangiest 3 tech, but he will apply constant pressure.

    109. Brandon Jones – S – Texas – 5′-11″ 198 lbs. – A smaller, tad more rangey version of Brooks. He is a thumper with an all-day motor, and a nose for the ball.

    110. Quartney Davis – WR – Texas A&M – 6′-1″ 201 lbs. – A skilled route runner with excellent footwork. Not slow, but not exactly a deep threat. hands are spotty.

    111. Jordan Elliott – IDL – Missouri – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Strong and bursty, he can cause havoc in the backfield. Easy mover with excellent hands. Not the fastest off the snap, timing issues slow him down.

    112. Terrell Burgess – S – Utah – 5′-11″ 202 lbs. – He’s an exciting athlete with good speed and a bigtime motor. Lack of size might be an issue.

    113. Amik Robertson – CB – Louisiana Tech – 5′-8″ 187 lbs. – slot corner due to his size. But he is a mean, physical little dude that will bring the fight to you.

    114. Lamical Perine – RB – Florida – 5′-11″ 216 lbs. – A patient power back with just enough juice to get to the house. Enough wiggle to get outside, but is at his best working north to south.

    115. Collin Johnson – WR – Texas – 6′-6″ 222 lbs. – Touted as the next Randy Moss, it didn’t happen, but he has good speed, wins with his size and is a contested catch, 50-50 ball machine. Size mismatch.

    116. Jabari Zuniga – Edge – Florida – 6′-3″ 253 lbs. – Decent burst, OK against the run, good athlete with range. Another boom bust prospect.

    117. Michael Pittman Jr. – WR – USC – 6′-4″ 223 lbs – Another physical WR that is starting to put everything together. Not a burner, but a good athlete with a great work ethic. A big Robert Woods.

    118. Kenny Willekes – Edge – Michigan State – 6′-4″ 264 lbs. – Relentless, tough, strong, try hard with average athletic ability for the position. I think due to that he is a 43 DE.

    119. Anthony McFarland – RB – Maryland – 5′-8″ 208 lbs. – An undersized, raw talented HR threat from anywhere on the field. Not a 3 down guy.

    120. Ben Bredeson – IOL – Michigan – 6′-5″ 315 lbs. – A LG prospect I love that has played in Gap/man/OSZ at Mich so he is versatile. Decent mover with good balance and very good power that looks to finish blocks.

    121. Shaquille Quarterman – LB – Miami – 6′-1″ 234 lbs. – A real old school MLBer that reads, reacts and then thumps. I think he moves well enough to help in some coverage.

    122. Damien Lewis – IOL – LSU – 6′-2″ 327 lbs. – Aggressive and powerful, lacks the lateral movement skills to work in a zone scheme. Will overwhelm you in man power.

    123. Antonio Gibson – RB – Memphis – 6′-1″ 223 lbs. – A wr/rb/do it all back with home run ability. Elusive with a bit of power. A jack of all trades, master of none.

    124. Evan Weaver – LB – California – 6′-2″ 237 lbs. – Not the world’s greatest athlete, but he is so instinctual he’s always around the ball. Super productive. Not a hammer and not great in coverage.

    125. Tyler Johnson – WR – Minnesota – 6′-1″ 206 lbs. – A nuanced route runner that knows how to get open. Plays with some physicality. I question his speed and he didn’t run so…

    126. Netane Muti – IOL – Fresno St. – 6′-3″ 315 lbs. – Skill set, power and movement ability should have him as the top IOL in the draft. he can flat out dominate. And looks to dominate you. Cannot stay healthy. Serious medical red flags.

    127. Willie Gay Jr. – LB – Miss. St. – 6′-2″ 243 lbs. – Athletic and quick, will pop you in the mouth. And he did punch his own QB in the face, so there is that. Could be a 3 down ILBer with some seasoning.

    128. AJ Dillon – RB – Boston College – 6′-0″ 247 lbs. – A bigger bodied back with more speed than one would think. A gap power fit. Loses a lot when stretched out east to west.

    129. Alex Highsmith – Edge – Charlotte – 6′-4″ 248 lbs. – Dynamic athlete off the edge with plenty of range, good flexibility and a great motor. Not the sturdiest run defender. 34 Edge.

    130. David Woodward – LB – Utah State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. -Not fast or super athletic, but he is smart, instinctual and has a big motor. He is everywhere. ILB

    131. Nick Harris – IOL – Washington – 6′-1″ 302 lbs. – Smaller, smooth moving OC that lacks the power to go heads up against any kind of power. Good technique. Zone scheme only.

    132. Shane Lemieux – IOL – Oregon – 6′-4″ 310 lbs. – mauler, not an athlete. Choppy footwork. Works well in a man scheme.

    133. Nick Coe – Edge – Auburn – 6′-5″ 280 lbs. – Big, long and strong. Played from 2 and 3 point at Auburn. He is going to end up being a 34 End in the NFL. I question his passion for football.

    134. Jared Pinkney – Vanderbilt – 6′-4″ 257 lbs. – Great hands, good athlete, good enough blocker to play inline. Needs to cleanup route running. Not a monster after the catch.

    135. Ke’Shawn Vaughn – RB – Vanderbilt – 5′-10″ 214 lbs. – Decent vision with good balance and ok speed. Good pass catcher. Lacks wiggle and not explosive.

    136. Quintez Cephus – WR – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Wisconsin – Big strong physical. Good route runner that can get himself open. Lacks deep speed. Faced 2 counts of sexual assault, case was dismissed.

    137. Jason Strowbridge – IDL – North Carolina – 6′-4″ 275 lbs. – A gap jumper that lacks the size to hold his ground against double teams. Once he is into gaps, causes issues for the offense. A 34 DE or 43 DE is his future.

    138. Alton Robinson – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 264 lbs. – A toolbox full of length, athletic ability, bend and explosiveness. Decent against the run. Just needs to put it all together. 34 Edge with a high ceiling.

    139. Joe Bachie Jr. – LB – Michigan State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. – a ILB with good instincts and decent range. Will pop you in the mouth when given the chance. Probably a 2 down ILBer in the NFL. Steroid suspension…

    140. Michael Ojemudia – CB – Iowa – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – Great size for the position. Plays hard, plays smart and is always under control. Not the best athlete for a CB. Zone scheme.

    141. Solomon Kindley – IOL – Georgia – 6′-3″ 337 lbs. – Another mammoth Georgia lineman. A OG with beastly power that loves to use it. Again, needs a lot of technique work. His hand usage is a mess.

    142. Joshua Kelley – RB – UCLA – 5′-11″ 212 lbs. – Strong, tough with good balance and hard to bring down, but lacks wiggle and HR speed. A one cut and go type of back.

    143. Lynn Bowden – WR – Kentucky – 5′-11″ 204 lbs. – a gadget WR that can play RB and QB (wildcat) A real team guy that you will need to game plan to get the ball in his hands as he learns to be a slot WR.

    144. Logan Wilson – LB – Wyoming – 6′-2″ 241 lbs. – A easy flowing downhill ILBer with average athletic ability, plays with smarts and under control. Don’t think he has the range to cover on passing downs. 2 Down ILBer.

    145. K.J. Hill – WR – Ohio State – 6′-0″ 196 lbs. – A good route runner with decent ability in the open field. Not a burner, but not a slug either.

    146. Colby Parkinson – TE – Stanford – 6′-7 252 lbs. – Big with a big wingspan, he will torture defenders in the middle of the field and the endzone. Not a great blocker and needs to get stronger.

    147. Jack Driscoll – OT – Auburn – 6′-5″ 306 lbs. – A smaller RT with a good athletic profile. In other words. Perfect for a zone scheme only. Needs to add power and some technique work.

    148. Antonio Gandy-Golden – WR – Liberty – 6′-4″ 223 lbs. – Crazy catches are littered throughout his highlights. Outstanding catch radius combined with flypaper hands make him a bigtime contested and 50-50 ball receiver. Not a great athlete or burner.

    149. Darrynton Evans – RB – Appalachian State – 5′-10″ 203 lbs. – Lightning in a bottle. His change of direction and lateral jump cuts will have defenders tackling air. HR speed. Narrow frame with little room for growth. Better outside then inside. OZS committee back.

    150. J.R. Reed – S – Georgia – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – An old school SS that works best moving forward as he doesn’t have the foot speed to be ultra rangy.

    151. Harrison Bryant – TE -Florida Atlantic – 6′-5″ 243 lbs. – Athletic with good hands and is a good route runner. He isn’t a blocker. His calling card is in the middle of the field.

    152. Anfernee Jennings Edge – Alabama – 6′-2″ 256 lbs. – A strong, good run defender lacking the juice and athletic ability to be a consistent pass rusher. Is he a 43 DE or 34 Edge on early downs? Not pass rusher regardless.

    153. Javelin Guidry – CB – Utah – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – Quick, oily and super fast. Size is going to limit him to slot/nickel/dime work.

    154. Hakeem Adeniji – OT – Kansas – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Another smaller LT that moves well and could slide into a zone scheme easily. needs to add power.

    155. Jacob Breeland – TE – Oregon – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – An average at best athlete, but plays with an edge and isn’t afraid of contact. Good hands and can get deep. Decent inline blocker.

    156. Isaiah Hodgins – WR – Oregon State – 6′-4″ 210 lbs. – A good route runner for a man his size, good catch radius. Good hands. Not a deep threat.

    157. Geno Stone – S – Iowa – 5′-10″ 207 lbs. – Another kid from Iowa with smarts, instincts and lacks a big athletic profile. Works best in the box or zone coverage.

    158. Markus Bailey – LB – Purdue – 6′-1″ 235 lbs. – A Kiser clone in the fact that he is a smart. between the tackles, run stopping machine. Not enough athletic ability or speed to cover against the pass. 2019 knee injury muddies his water. 2 down ILB.

    159. Anthony Gordan – QB – Washington State – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – Tough leader with an OK arm. Air Raid muddies the water, but he can manage a football team.

    160. McTelvin Agim – IDL – Arkansas – 6′-3″ 309 lbs. – Strong off the snap with plenty of juice to shoot gaps and finish. Really losses interest playing the run. If you can get that turned around, you have a 310 man with rare athletic traits for that size.

    161. Josiah Deguara – TE – Cincinnati – 6′-2″ 242 lbs. – Good inline blocker regardless his size, is also a good route runner and pass catcher. Not a tremendous athlete, but is first team try hard TE. A balanced TE.

    162. Gabriel Davis – WR – UCF – 6′-2″ 216 lbs. – Exciting athlete with decent speed and plays with a bit of an edge. hands are meh, and he didn’t run a ton of different routes.

    163. D.J. Wonnum – Edge – South Carolina – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – An above average athlete that can do a little of everything, but isn’t great at any one thing. Perfect size for 34 Edge with a great motor.

    164. Justin Strnad – LB – Wake Forest – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – Smooth moving forward and backward, can run and cover and go sideline to sideline. Would rather run around blockers then stack and shed. Still learning the nuances so his arrow is pointing up. ILBer in an odd front or WILL in an even front.

    165. Raequan Williams – IDL – Michigan State – 6′-4″ 308 lbs. – Not a great athlete, but is strong, can stack and hold his ground and when he does get in the backfield, he finishes well. Needs to get more consistent on effort.

    166. Terence Steele – OT – Texas Tech – 6′-6″ 312 lbs. – Great hands and a powerful upper body, needs some sand in his pants. More of a man blocking guy, as he lacks movement skills for zone.

    167. Myles Bryant – CB – Washington – 5′-8″ 183 lbs. – another slot CB, plays faster than he ran, explosive movement skills.

    168. Lamar Jackson – CB – Nebraska – 6′-2″ 208 lbs. – Big, long and physical. Speed will give him issues. Press man CB.

    169. Julian Blackmon – S – Utah – 6′-0″ 187 lbs. – Fun kid on tape. Plenty of speed and range, great physicality, but at the same time, not a tremendous athlete.

    170. Devin Duvernay – WR – Texas – 5′-10″ 200 lbs. – a speed demon that would rather run you over then around you. A RB in a WRs body. A smart OC can do alot of stuff with this kid. Small catch radius.

    171. Essang Bassey – CB – Wake Forest – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – a nickel/slot CB that gets after it and is a smooth enough athlete to mirror really well.

    172. Charlie Heck – OT – North Carolina – 6′-8″ 311 lbs. – As Alyo has stated, the son of a coach. Smart, good technique and excellent length. Needs to add some weight and power. Great developmental type of L/RT.

    173. James Lynch – IDL – Baylor – 6′-4″ 289 lbs. – Monster sack production from a guy with not a ton of athletic ability. Not twitchy and not explosive. Just average strength. Really just wins on an all-day motor and a give ’em hell attitude.

    174. Trevis Gipson – Edge – Tulsa – 6′-4″ 261 lbs. – an easy mover with decent burst and good flexibility. Can get bullied against the run. Developmental 34 Edge.

    175. James Morgan – QB – FIU – 6′-4″ 229 lbs. – A toolsy gunslinger with no fear. Not sure he has the tools above the neck to be a pro QB.

    176. John Simpson – IOL – Clemson – 6′-4″ 321 lbs. – A power blocker that can get over-extended at times, but will run you over. Lacks horizontal movement ability. Man power scheme fit.

    177. A.J. Green – CB – Oklahoma State – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Physical CB, sometimes too physical. Decent speed and a decent athletic profile.

    178. Harrison Hand – CB – Temple – 5′-11″ 197 lbs. – Smart, tough and has some ballhawk to him. Not the quickest CB. Zone CB

    179. Jalen Elliott – S – Notre Dame – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Slow, moderate athlete, but man he loves to blow up ball carriers. IMO a box safety or a big nickel LBer.

    180. Mitchell Wilcox- TE – South Florida – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Hard working combo TE that had good production, but won’t wow you as an athlete. I worry a bit about his hands.

    181. Michael Onwenu – IOL – Michigan – 6′-3″ 344 lbs. – An absolute tank in the trenches. Surprisingly decent footwork. Great power. Not a great mover. Man scheme.

    182. Trevon Hill – Edge – Miami – 6′-3″ 248 lbs. – Athletic, bursty edge with a nice pass rush. Needs to add weight to handle the run. Pass rush specialist early. 34 Edge.

    183. Binjimen Victor – WR – Ohio State – 6′-4″ 198 lbs. – Another big catch radius guy with nice hands. Not a deep threat, but is kinda dangerous in the open field.

    184. Carter Coughlin – Edge – Minnesota – 6′-3″ 236 lbs. – an undersized 34 edge rusher with some burst and fluid movement skills. Cannot match power with anyone, and his run defending suffers from that.

    185. Josiah Scott – CB – Michigan State – 5′-9″ 185 lbs. – A nickel back with good speed and decent toughness for his size. Good ball skills. Too small to survive on the outside.

    186. Jonathan Garvin – Edge – Miami – 6′-4″ 263 lbs. – 43 DE that can set a strong edge and keep everything inside. Not a ton of burst, and average athletically. Decent pass rush on physical traits alone.

    187. Scott Frantz – OT – Kansas State – 6′-5″ 300 lbs. – Mauler strength and a maulers mentality. Not a great athlete and needs to add weight.

    188. – Patrick Taylor Jr. – RB – Memphis – 6′-1″ 217 lbs. – big, powerful and hard to bring down. Not great feet and not very imaginative with the ball. Short yardage back IMO.

    189. Khalil Davis – IDL – Nebraska – 6′-2″ 308 lbs. – Not real long, but a quick first step and a good motor is where he wins. Not a great run defender due to his lack of length.

    190. Myles Dorn – S – North Carolina – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – A decent all-around S with good work in the box and some solid pass defense stats. His lack of speed may limit his upside.

    191. Kendall Coleman – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Average athlete that is really still developing his skill set. Good motor and plays with nice physicality. Needs to be developed. Developmental 34 Edge.

    192. Jake Hanson – IOL – Oregon – 6′-4″ 303 lbs. – A zone scheme OC. A technician and good athlete, lacks the strength to trade power with defenders.

    193. Mykal Walker – LB – Fresno State – 6′-3″ 230 lbs. – Has played DE, Edge and ILB. So, he is a movable chess pc. I like him as an ILB in an odd front. Certainly knows how to blitz, can drop into coverage and will stick his nose in the fan in run support. Needs development time, due to so many position changes.

    194. Lavert Hill – CB – Michigan – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – A hard-nosed press man. Lacks speed to stay with the fast WRs. Might work inside. Man only.

    195. Cheyenne O’Grady – TE – Arkansas – 6′-4″ 253 lbs. – A natural pass catcher with good route running. A willing blocker, although it isn’t a strength. Tough to bring down. His biggest issue is he was dismissed from the team for saying he was going to quit after the Bama game.

    196. – Michael Warren II – RB – Cincinnati – 5′-9″ 226 lbs. – Decent feet for his build (a bowling ball) with good power and contact balance. Not making you miss and isn’t a HR hitter. Another short yardage back IMO.

    197. Tanner Muse – S – Clemson – 6′-2″ 227 lbs. – A big S, maybe a LBer…4.41 speed, can play deep due to his speed and athleticism, can play in the box due to his size. Never put it all together for his profile.

    198. Aaron Parker – WR – Rhode Island – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – A good blend of physicality combines with his ability to go up and get it makes him a contested catch monster. He needs to develop his route running.

    199. Jacob Phillips – LB – LSU – 6′-4″ 229 lbs. – Great size, great production, but is lacking that toughness you want in a LBer. Good speed, but not exactly explosive. Plays with patience and under control. ILB or WILL

    200. Sewo Olonilua – RB – TCU – 6′-3″ 232 lbs. – Another short yardage specialist. Not fast, quick or nimble. He is a load to bring down and will wear you out.

    201. Kyle Murphy – IOL – Rhode Island – 6′-3″ 316 lbs. – Overpowered FCS competition, needs to add size and power to do that at the NFL level. He’s an easy mover with good footwork. Scheme versatile.

    202. Joe Reed – WR – Virginia – 6′-0″ 224 lbs. – A deep threat with good hands and can return in STs. Has some wiggle. Another gadget kid early as he learns to run routes properly.

    203. Stephen Sullivan – TE – LSU – 6′-5″ 248 lbs. – Massive seam buster that got lost in the shuffle of an all star offense. Long, middle of the field mismatch. Not a tremendous blocker.

    204. Benito Jones – IDL – Ole Miss – 6′-1″ 316 lbs. – a fire hydrant with very good strength. Won’t slide thru gaps but holds more than his own against the run. A true NT with a little pass rush push.

    205. Jaylinn Hawkins – S – California – 6′-1″ 208 lbs. – Smart, physical with some range. Not a ton and won’t wow you going sideline to sideline. Decent ball skills, but he has room for improvement.

    206. Trajan Bandy – CB – Miami – 5′-8″ 180 lbs. – Smooth footed DB that moves well in space and has OK speed. Lack of size and strength is an issue.

    207. Jauan Jennings – WR – Tennessee – 6′-3″ 215 lbs. – A runaway beer truck in the open field. Tough to bring down. Slow play speed and ran a 4.74 so that matches what you see.

    208. Davion Taylor – LB – Colorado – 6′-1″ 228 lbs. – Late comer to football. Kid is a PAC 12 track star, so he can fly, great athlete, smooth mover. Great motor. Needs to get stronger and needs massive development. WILL or ILB in a 34.

    209. Kyahva Tezino – LB – San Diego State – 6′-0″ 235 lbs. – Plays the run well, decent athlete that can get to the sidelines and plays with patience and intelligence. Lacks length and quickness.

    210. Devin Asiasi – TE – UCLA – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – a combo blocker/receiver with good size for the position. Needs technical work in all aspects. Developmental type traditional TE.

    211. Jace Whittaker – CB – Arizona – 5′-11″ 185 lbs. – a ballhawk with good instincts and good speed. Not very physical and lacks great size.

    212. Colton McKivitz – OT – West Virginia – 6′-6″ 306 lbs. – Big, strong RT prospect that has issues against speed. Can get out over his feet when he lunges at targets.

    213. Dalton Keene – TE – Virginia Tech – 6′-4″ 253 lbs. – Here is your late round, H-back, fullback, TE. He can block and catch but was never really given much opportunity. Decent athlete, but plays like an old school TE.

    214. Kindle Vildor – CB – Georgia Southern – 5′-10″ 191 lbs. – Ballhawking athletic CB with the size and footwork to work in any scheme. Not great in run support. Can be over-aggressive.

    215. Stephen Guidry – WR – Mississippi State – 6′-3″ 201 lbs. – Long with long arms and decent deep speed. Can go up and get it, or win over the top. Not a great route runner.

    216. J.J. Taylor – RB – Arizona – 5′-5″ 185 lbs. – Scat back with good receiving skills. Plays fater then he ran, but obviously not a between the tackles type.

    217. James Robinson – RB – Illinois State – 5′-9″ 219 lbs. – A hammer that did it all for ISU. Surprising speed can catch you off guard. not very shifty.

    218. Justin Herron – OT – Wake Forest – 6′-4″ 308 lbs. – A OG in the NFL. Good pass blocker with decent footwork, has trouble trading power in the run game. Zone scheme OG.

    219. Reggie Robinson II – CB – Tulsa – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Long with decent athletic profile, does his best work in a zone and things are in front of him. Nice production. Modest athlete.

    220. Tyrie Cleveland – WR – Florida – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – Long and fast. Never ran a diverse route tree, but he can eat up a DB in a hurry. Will need some development.

    221. Jon Runyan – OT – Michigan – 6′-4″ 306 lbs. – I think he moves inside to OG. Son of an NFL OT. So he is smart. Good athlete but lacks strength. zone scheme OG.

    222. Tipa Galea’i – EDGE – Utah State – 6′-5″ 235 lbs. – An explosive, oily, easy mover. Needs to add mass if he wants to hold up against the run.

    223. Nigel Warrior – S – Tennessee – 6′-0″ 190 lbs. – Vols played him everywhere from what I saw. So he can do some of everything. Good athlete, good run defender for hsi size. Lack of ball production is a concern.

    224. Nevelle Clarke – CB – UCF – 6′-1″ 190 lbs. – I called him a mini Ramsey. Plays with a swagger and a ballhawks mentality. Great size for a CB. Easy mover. Needs to add strength and some weight to reach his full potential.

    225. Salvon Ahmed – RB – Washington – 5′-11″ 197 lbs. – Long speed despite what he ran at the combine. Decent wiggle in the open field. Due to size, a 3rd down back only. Lacks power and vision.

    226. James Proche – WR – SMU – 5′-11″ 201 lbs. – Natural hands and just catches everything. Smooth athlete, with great college production. Not a burner. Needs to work on route running.

    227. Cameron Brown – LB – Penn State – 6′-5″ 233 lbs. – Long for a LBer. Also raw. Can cover a ton of ground quickly and goes sideline to sideline. Not great in coverage. Not sure his position fit. 43 OLB or maybe add 15-20 lbs and make him a 34 edge?

    228. Sean McKeon – TE – Michigan – 6′-5″ 242 lbs. – A combo TE that can block in line and be used as a pass catcher. Not the most dynamic route runner, or athlete, but he competes hard. Good 3rd TE for a roster.

    229. Cole McDonald – QB – Hawaii – 6′-3″ 215 lbs. – An absolute howitzer of an arm. Good NFL size. A rhythm passer that loves getting the ball deep. Everything breaks down once he is off schedule.

    230. Quez Watkins – WR – Southern Miss – 6′-0″ 185 lbs. – Will take the top off a defense. No idea how to run a route, gets open from DBs being scared of being ran by. Electric in the open field. Needs to add some good weight.

    231. Bravvion Roy – IDL – Baylor – 6′-1″ 333 lbs. – Not your typical NT. He can dominate against the run, but has some juice to get after the QB (6 sacks this year) Short length will limit his upside.

    232. Kamal Martin – LB – Minnesota – 6′-3″ 240 lbs. – A 34 ILB that fills that downhill run plugger role that is tight hipped and lacks the range to work 3 downs. Will stick you when given the chance.

    233. Grayland Arnold – CB – Baylor – 5′-9″ 186 lbs. – Nickel CB with great ball production. Smooth lower body makes him sticky, has a ballhawk mentality. Lacks size to hold up on the outside.

    234. Trey Adams – OT – Washington – 6′-8″ 318 lbs. – Power blocking scheme only, once a top 25 pick, now maybe undraftable due to multiple injuries. Carries bad weight. A better athlete then mauler so his skill set doesn’t match his power (or lack thereof)

    235. Charlie Taumoepeau – TE – Portland State – 6′-2″ 240 lbs. – Literally a move TE. He played H-back, RB, TE, WR for Portland State. So he can block and catch and be a nice depth piece. Nothing athletically extrordinary.

    236. Darryl Williams – IOL – Mississippi State – 6′-2″ 304 lbs. – A OG/OC prospect with decent power and good technique. Needs to add some power. A tad stiff movement wise. Developmental depth for a power blocking team.

    237. Tyler Clark – IDL – Georgia – 6′-4″ 300 lbs. – nice get off with good hand usage to keep himself clean. Kinda frenetic, and will wash himself out at times. Good power.

    238. Levonta Taylor – CB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – a CB turned safety, smooth lower half and good speed and lack of strength make him an ideal zone fit, either as a nickel or S. had back problems in the past.

    239. Kalija Lipscomb – WR – Vanderbilt – 6′-0″ 207 lbs. – Good route runner with reliable hands. Just an OK athlete and not a burner.

    240. Tyler Huntley – QB – Utah – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – A real athlete with the ball in his hands. Can scramble, throw on the run and generally work his way around in the pocket. Accuracy is OK. Pretty good arm strength. I don’t think he can read a defense yet.

    241. Stanford Samuels III – CB – Florida State – 6′-1″ 187 lbs. – Long and a bit clumsy. Would be a good zone CB with some developmental upside.

    242. Robert Landers – IDL – Ohio State – 6′-1″ 285 lbs. – A 34 DE that lacks the usual length. Strong with a good burst. Decent athlete. At his best in a straight line.

    243. Shyheim Carter – S – Alabama – 5′-10″ 194 lbs. – A CB/S that was used as a hybrid 3rd safety for the Tide. Could be a movable piece in the secondary. Not overly fast or athlete. Declined to test at the combine reinforcing that idea.

    244. Freddie Swain – WR – Florida – 6′-0″ 197 lbs. – Good athlete with good hands and good speed. Not a very nuanced route runner and lacked college production. Punt returner bonus.

    245. Mohamed Barry – LB – Nebraska – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – A bull in a china shop ILBer with sideline to sideline athleticism. Tough and strong just kinda running around out there hitting things and overrunning other things…

    246. John Reid – CB – Penn State – 5′-10″ 187 lbs. – A physical press man CB that due to lack of size will end up being a Nickel Back. Average speed to match his average athletic ability.

    247. Jordan Fuller – S – Ohio State – 6′-2″ 203 lbs. – A single high safety that is too slow to play single high in the NFL IMO. Racked up a ton of tackles and loves to hit. I like him as a depth/3rd safety with plenty of upside in the box.

    248. Darius Anderson – RB – TCU – 5′-10″ 208 lbs. – A tough little runner with plenty of takeoff, lacks the top end to be a HR threat and lacks the size to be a between that tackles guy.

    249. Derrek Tuszka – Edge – North Dakota St. – 6′-5″ 251 lbs. – A 43 end that will transition to a standup 34 edge. Tough, strong and can hold up vs the run. Great pass rush production. Decent athlete, but lacks flexibility to bend around the edge.

    250. Rodrigo Blankenship – K – Georgia – 6′-1″ 197 lbs. – He kicks footballs and I love his nerd glasses. I dare you to find that kind of draft analysis anywhere but here. LOL

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    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-04-07/hospitals-washington-seize-coronavirus-supplies

    Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word
    By Noam N. Levey Staff Writer
    April 7, 2020
    2:07 PM

    WASHINGTON — Although President Trump has directed states and hospitals to secure what supplies they can, the federal government is quietly seizing orders, leaving medical providers across the country in the dark about where the material is going and how they can get what they need to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.

    Hospital and clinic officials in seven states described the seizures in interviews over the past week. The Federal Emergency Management Agency is not publicly reporting the acquisitions, despite the outlay of millions of dollars of taxpayer money, nor has the administration detailed how it decides which supplies to seize and where to reroute them.

    Officials who’ve had materials seized also say they’ve received no guidance from the government about how or if they will get access to the supplies they ordered. That has stoked concerns about how public funds are being spent and whether the Trump administration is fairly distributing scarce medical supplies.

    “In order to have confidence in the distribution system, to know that it is being done in an equitable manner, you have to have transparency,” said Dr. John Hick, an emergency physician at Hennepin Healthcare in Minnesota who has helped develop national emergency preparedness standards through the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine.

    The medical leaders on the front lines of the fight to control the coronavirus and keep patients alive say they are grasping for explanations. “We can’t get any answers,” said a California hospital official who asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation from the White House.

    In Florida, a large medical system saw an order for thermometers taken away. And officials at a system in Massachusetts were unable to determine where its order of masks went.

    “Are they stockpiling this stuff? Are they distributing it? We don’t know,” one official said. “And are we going to ever get any of it back if we need supplies? It would be nice to know these things.”

    PeaceHealth, a 10-hospital system in Washington, Oregon and Alaska, had a shipment of testing supplies seized recently. “It’s incredibly frustrating,” said Richard DeCarlo, the system’s chief operating officer.

    “We had put wheels in motion with testing and protective equipment to allow us to secure and protect our staff and our patients,” he said. “When testing went off the table, we had to come up with a whole new plan.”

    Although PeaceHealth doesn’t have hospitals in the Seattle area, where the first domestic coronavirus outbreak occurred, the system has had a steady stream of potentially infected patients who require testing and care by doctors and nurse in full protective equipment.

    Trump and other White House officials, including his close advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner, have insisted that the federal government is using a data-driven approach to procure supplies and direct them where they are most needed.

    In response to questions from The Times, a FEMA representative said the agency, working with the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense, has developed a system for identifying needed supplies from vendors and distributing them equitably.

    The representative said the agency factors in the populations of states and major metropolitan areas and the severity of the coronavirus outbreak in various locales. “High-transmission areas were prioritized, and allocations were based on population, not on quantities requested,” the representative said.

    But the agency has refused to provide any details about how these determinations are made or why it is choosing to seize some supply orders and not others. Administration officials also will not say what supplies are going to what states.

    Using the Defense Production Act, a Korean War-era law that allows the president to compel the production of vital equipment in a national emergency, Trump last month ordered General Motors to produce ventilators to address shortfalls at hospitals.

    The law also empowers federal agencies to place orders for critical materials and to see that those get priority over orders from private companies or state and local governments.

    Experts say judicious use of this authority could help bring order to the medical supply market by routing critical material — ventilators, masks and other protective gear — from suppliers to the federal government and then to areas of greatest need, such as New York.

    Yet there is little indication that federal officials are controlling the market, as hospitals, doctors and others report paying exorbitant prices or resorting to unorthodox maneuvers to get what they need.

    Hospital and health officials describe an opaque process in which federal officials sweep in without warning to expropriate supplies.

    Jose Camacho, who heads the Texas Assn. of Community Health Centers, said his group was trying to purchase a small order of just 20,000 masks when his supplier reported that the order had been taken.

    Camacho was flabbergasted. Several of his member clinics — which as primary care centers are supposed to alleviate pressure on overburdened hospitals — are struggling to stay open amid woeful shortages of protective equipment.

    “Everyone says you are supposed to be on your own,” Camacho said, noting Trump’s repeated admonition that states and local health systems cannot rely on Washington for supplies. “Then to have this happen, you just sit there wondering what else you can do. You can’t fight the federal government.”

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    NYtimes:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-malaria-drug.html
    Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community

    While Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged caution in using hydroxychloroquine, some doctors are prescribing it to patients who have the virus despite the fact it has never been tested for it.

    WASHINGTON — President Trump made a rare appearance in the Situation Room on Sunday as his pandemic task force was meeting, determined to talk about the anti-malaria medicine that he has aggressively promoted lately as a treatment for the coronavirus.

    Once again, according to a person briefed on the session, the experts warned against overselling a drug yet to be proved a safe remedy, particularly for heart patients. “Yes, the heart stuff,” Mr. Trump acknowledged. Then he headed out to the cameras to promote it anyway. “So what do I know?” he conceded to reporters at his daily briefing. “I’m not a doctor. But I have common sense.”

    Day after day, the salesman turned president has encouraged coronavirus patients to try hydroxychloroquine with all of the enthusiasm of a real estate developer. The passing reference he makes to the possible dangers is usually overwhelmed by the full-throated endorsement. “What do you have to lose?” he asked five times on Sunday.

    Bolstered by his trade adviser, a television doctor, Larry Ellison of Oracle and Rudolph W. Giuliani, a former New York mayor, Mr. Trump has seized on the drug as a miracle cure for the virus that has killed thousands and paralyzed American life. Along the way, he has prompted an international debate about a drug that many doctors in New York and elsewhere have been trying in desperation even without conclusive scientific studies.

    Mr. Trump may ultimately be right, and physicians report anecdotal evidence that has provided hope. But it remains far from certain, and the president’s assertiveness in pressing the case over the advice of advisers like Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the government’s top infectious disease specialist, has driven a wedge inside his coronavirus task force and has raised questions about his motives.

    If hydroxychloroquine becomes an accepted treatment, several pharmaceutical companies stand to profit, including shareholders and senior executives with connections to the president. Mr. Trump himself has a small personal financial interest in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine.

    “I certainly understand why the president is pushing it,” said Dr. Joshua Rosenberg, a critical care at Brooklyn Hospital Center. “He’s the president of the United States. He has to project hope. And when you are in a situation without hope, things go very badly. So I’m not faulting him for pushing it even if there isn’t a lot of science behind it, because it is, at this point, the best, most available option for use.”

    A senior physician at Wyckoff Heights Medical Center in Brooklyn, where doctors are not providing the drug, however, said the current demand was worrisome for patients on it chronically for rheumatic diseases. At St. Barnabas Hospital in the Bronx, another doctor said his staff was giving it to coronavirus patients but criticized the president and Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo for “cheerleading” the drug without proof. “False hope can be bad, too,” he said.

    The professional organization that published a positive French study cited by Mr. Trump’s allies changed its mind in recent days. The International Society of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy said, “The article does not meet the society’s expected standard.” Some hospitals in Sweden stopped providing hydroxychloroquine to treat the coronavirus after reports of adverse side effects, according to Swedish news media.

    But Mr. Cuomo told reporters on Monday that he would ask Mr. Trump to increase the federal supply of hydroxychloroquine to New York pharmacies, allowing the state to lift a limit on purchases. “There has been anecdotal evidence that it is promising,” Mr. Cuomo said, while noting the lack of a formal study….see link

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    Amish Shah is an emergency room doctor and an Arizona State Representative. Here is his view from the frontlines of #COVID19. It’s worth your time to read.

    Amish Shah

    Friends,

    Two weeks have passed since my last post. We are now squarely in the throes of this crisis, and the situation has changed for the worse as we all expected. COVID19 continues its devastating march across the world, but one country has been hit especially hard – The United States. America now has the most confirmed cases at 311,000. We now stand at 8,400 deaths and rising fast. For comparison, we had 25,000 cases and under one thousand deaths just two weeks ago. Yesterday we recorded over 34,000 cases and 1,300 deaths in 24 hours – again, the most recorded in the world. Since our testing is uneven and haphazard, there are likely many more cases in the community that are unrecorded. Unfortunately, our situation will still get worse before it gets better.

    The New York City metro area is hardest hit, and conditions at many of their hospitals are dire. I trained at Lincoln Hospital in the Bronx and worked as a faculty member at Mount Sinai in Manhattan and Elmhurst Hospital in Queens, so I feel for the health care workers at those locations in particular. (See for example: https://www.nytimes.com/…/ny…/nyc-coronavirus-hospitals.html)

    I have spoken with some of my colleagues at the New York hospitals and have read their accounts. They describe a heartbreaking scene:
    – Huge lines of very sick patients waiting to be seen, all coughing and febrile
    – A painful and miserable course for patients lasting weeks, including persistent shortness of breath and severe weakness
    – Multiple “Code Blue” (cardiac arrest) announcements throughout the day
    – Emotionally and physically exhausted staff who are afraid for their lives but continue to persevere
    – Several doctors and nurses who have fallen sick and a few who have lost their lives
    – Lack of PPE (personal protective equipment) and supplies such as masks, drugs, and ventilators
    – Dead bodies being loaded into refrigerated trucks because there is no space in the morgue

    The Governor of New York and their Mayor continue to plead for help, and the help they are receiving does not seem to be enough to meet demand, possibly because other hot spots have emerged across the country, such as Detroit and New Orleans.

    We must use all available means to prevent this from happening in Arizona. Currently, we continue to see large increases in cases here. Today, April 5, we have 2,269 cases and 64 deaths – compared to the 100 cases and one death that I mentioned in my last post. Unfortunately, these numbers will continue to rise. Compared to New York, our growth rate is lower, with cases doubling about every five days instead of every three.

    Despite the increase in cases, the good news is that the *growth rate* is actually slowing across America – meaning that even if we are on the upslope, the curve is starting to flatten. We believe that this is a result of our ever-stricter social distancing. Let’s keep it up. This is crucial for the sake of our individual safety and for those on the front lines. From all of us health care workers out there, we really appreciate how the vast majority of the public has acted with great responsibility and sacrifice, as well as offers of help.

    Meanwhile, I have reached out to many of my physician colleagues to understand how our health system is coping. So far, our Arizona hospitals are not yet saturated with cases. Emergency departments are seeing fewer patients overall. Patients that do present are more often truly ill or injured. We are freeing up resources appropriately, and I’m grateful that the public is responding to our messages to come to the hospital only when appropriate. With regard to sicker patients, several Arizona hospitals have ICUs that are partially full with COVID19 patients, and one (in Flagstaff) is reported to have a full ICU. But most hospitals still have capacity, and the Governor’s order to increase beds in every hospital by 50% will certainly help.

    Meanwhile, our hospitals continue to see an increased demand for PPE and are keeping up at this point, even as the situation is tenuous. I have been personally working to connect our hospitals and the Arizona Department of Health Services (ADHS) with suppliers. While manufacturing has ramped up and more supplies are available for sale, we have also received reports of a chaotic and difficult marketplace. Hospitals, state governments, the Federal government (by way of FEMA) and foreign countries are vying for the same precious resources. Just today, however, we received welcome news that Honeywell will manufacture millions of masks here in Arizona for our use.

    Testing continues to expand. The US has tested over 1.7 million people. This number continues to increase rapidly with more tests entering the market due to expedited FDA approval. Yet Arizona is still behind. We have run over 27,000 tests, but there are concerning bottlenecks, including availability of swabs and testing reagents. Currently, we can only test those who are ill or with whom we have higher suspicion of contagion. With increased availability, we hope to broaden testing criteria. (I discussed the individual and public health benefits of testing in my prior posts.) Also, researchers in Colorado have developed an antibody test to determine who has already recovered from the virus. This will take months to formulate, but if successful may help many people return to normal life.

    Throughout these two weeks, our Governor has taken more steps to maintain social distancing. We’ve pared down the list of essential businesses, allowed for emergency refills of chronic medications, and allowed the use of telemedicine for a number of occupations including physical therapists and veterinarians. Schools are closed for the rest of the year. This will continue to reduce human interactions and therefore viral spread. The CDC has not yet issued a national recommendation that everyone wear a mask in public, but I believe it would be helpful.

    Meanwhile, the economy continues to be in free fall, and the pain is real. This week, Arizona saw 88,000 unemployment claims, compared to the few thousand we usually see. The US had over 6.5 million, compared to the usual few hundred thousand. These figures are unprecedented since the Great Depression of the 1930s. Importantly, the supply of food, financial services, and other necessities remains very stable. We are continuing to provide for the basic needs of our people.

    These past two weeks, I have heard from so many tenants who have had difficulty with rent, small business owners who are afraid that they will have to permanently shut down, and unemployed people facing uncertainty. We are working to connect every constituent to resources to help them through this difficult time. To highlight, we have increased unemployment benefits, made Small Business Loans much more accessible, and placed a temporary halt on evictions, among other initiatives. Please visit my website at http://www.AmishForArizona.com/Covid for a complete list.

    Finally, I want to address a few questions that I have been asked frequently in recent days.

    How are we doing? Is our public response adequate? Since the beginning of this crisis, I have continued to support all of our elected officials who continue to act in good faith to serve the American people. This is not a time for politics and backbiting, but rather a time of national unity and good governance. We are certain to learn some important lessons, and once this is over, I hope that we will never forget nor let this happen again. Our human toll and the economic hardship cannot be in vain.

    In the longer term, we will have to take specific actions to protect humankind. The origin of the current virus appears to be a food market in China with wild animals and unsanitary conditions, and the international community will have to insist that these types of markets be closed or heavily regulated to stop the emergence of such diseases. We will have to spend more money on research into the development of vaccines for known, predictable threats. Most importantly, we will have to ensure that the national preparedness plan is not just a dusty document on a shelf but a reminder of a real danger to our existence.

    Have any drugs been proven effective in treating COVID-19? As for medications, we have had mixed news. Chloroquine has been touted as a promising drug, and one small controlled trial demonstrated some efficacy, but another showed no effect. Larger studies are still ongoing. Another drug, Kaletra, was not found to be useful in one trial. But researchers continue to investigate dozens of other drugs that either block viral entry into our cells or stop its replication. Vaccine development is also promising as more than one research lab has identified a real candidate, but these will take several months of development before we can demonstrate true efficacy and safety in humans.

    When will this end, and how can we end it? The timing is very difficult to predict, but it will take at least several weeks before cases start to decline. Once we are certain that the decline is stable, we will want to end the crisis by progressively clearing areas and declaring them virus-free and safe for resumption of normal life.

    But to get there, we will need a systemic public health effort to track and trace the virus. This piece of the puzzle has been glaringly absent so far. Such an effort would begin with rigorous quarantine of all positive cases. Then, we would find all of their recent contacts and test/isolate them if positive. We would rinse and repeat until very few positives occur. Several Asian countries enacted such a strategy, and it is akin to using a fine scalpel to cut out the disease from society. It would be a win-win scenario, because once we have only a few positives, whole communities that are free of disease can re-open and restart the economy.

    Unfortunately, we do not have a “scalpel” available to us yet. That takes preparation and effort. All we have instead is the “hammer,” meaning massive lockdowns that disrupt much of society. The hammer is blunt and causes collateral damage. My hope is that our hammer buys us enough time to develop a scalpel soon. (For more, see: https://medium.com/…/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-b…)

    I know that the days ahead are dark, especially the next few weeks. I wish I had better and more uplifting news for you, but my intent here is to give you a real look at what our people are now facing. If this is not affecting your immediate circle, it likely will soon, and I want you to be safe and prepared. I feel the melancholy of our national mood, but find real strength in the knowledge that all of you are striving to make your contribution to our great country every day. For some of you, this means providing essential services like staffing grocery stores and maintaining the food supply despite personal risk. Others are navigating the stress of family obligations while working at home. Some of you are just isolating and making TikTok dance-challenge videos. While social distancing may not feel always like contributing, it’s the most patriotic and community-minded action we can take.

    I promise that one day this will end. We have seen other countries get past their terrible peaks and we will, too. Until then, let’s continue to give it our best fight every day, like so many proud generations of Americans have before us during the most difficult of times.

    Thank you, and please continue to reach out.

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    The U.S. was beset by denial and dysfunction as the coronavirus raged
    From the Oval Office to the CDC, political and institutional failures cascaded through the system and opportunities to mitigate the pandemic were lost.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/04/04/coronavirus-government-dysfunction/?arc404=true

    By the time Donald Trump proclaimed himself a wartime president — and the coronavirus the enemy — the United States was already on course to see more of its people die than in the wars of Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

    The country has adopted an array of wartime measures never employed collectively in U.S. history — banning incoming travelers from two continents, bringing commerce to a near-halt, enlisting industry to make emergency medical gear, and confining 230 million Americans to their homes in a desperate bid to survive an attack by an unseen adversary.

    Despite these and other extreme steps, the United States will likely go down as the country that was supposedly best prepared to fight a pandemic but ended up catastrophically overmatched by the novel coronavirus, sustaining heavier casualties than any other nation.

    It did not have to happen this way. Though not perfectly prepared, the United States had more expertise, resources, plans and epidemiological experience than dozens of countries that ultimately fared far better in fending off the virus.

    The failure has echoes of the period leading up to 9/11: Warnings were sounded, including at the highest levels of government, but the president was deaf to them until the enemy had already struck.

    The Trump administration received its first formal notification of the outbreak of the coronavirus in China on Jan. 3. Within days, U.S. spy agencies were signaling the seriousness of the threat to Trump by including a warning about the coronavirus — the first of many — in the President’s Daily Brief.

    And yet, it took 70 days from that initial notification for Trump to treat the coronavirus not as a distant threat or harmless flu strain well under control, but as a lethal force that had outflanked America’s defenses and was poised to kill tens of thousands of citizens. That more-than-two-month stretch now stands as critical time that was squandered.

    33 times Trump downplayed the coronavirus

    Trump’s baseless assertions in those weeks, including his claim that it would all just “miraculously” go away, sowed significant public confusion and contradicted the urgent messages of public health experts.

    “While the media would rather speculate about outrageous claims of palace intrigue, President Trump and this Administration remain completely focused on the health and safety of the American people with around the clock work to slow the spread of the virus, expand testing, and expedite vaccine development,” said Judd Deere, a spokesman for the president. “Because of the President’s leadership we will emerge from this challenge healthy, stronger, and with a prosperous and growing economy.”

    The president’s behavior and combative statements were merely a visible layer on top of deeper levels of dysfunction.

    The most consequential failure involved a breakdown in efforts to develop a diagnostic test that could be mass produced and distributed across the United States, enabling agencies to map early outbreaks of the disease, and impose quarantine measures to contain them. At one point, a Food and Drug Administration official tore into lab officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, telling them their lapses in protocol, including concerns that the lab did not meet the criteria for sterile conditions, were so serious that the FDA would “shut you down” if the CDC were a commercial, rather than government, entity.

    Other failures cascaded through the system. The administration often seemed weeks behind the curve in reacting to the viral spread, closing doors that were already contaminated. Protracted arguments between the White House and public health agencies over funding, combined with a meager existing stockpile of emergency supplies, left vast stretches of the country’s health-care system without protective gear until the outbreak had become a pandemic. Infighting, turf wars and abrupt leadership changes hobbled the work of the coronavirus task force.

    It may never be known how many thousands of deaths, or millions of infections, might have been prevented with a response that was more coherent, urgent and effective. But even now, there are many indications that the administration’s handling of the crisis had potentially devastating consequences.

    Even the president’s base has begun to confront this reality. In mid-March, as Trump was rebranding himself a wartime president and belatedly urging the public to help slow the spread of the virus, Republican leaders were poring over grim polling data that suggested Trump was lulling his followers into a false sense of security in the face of a lethal threat.

    The poll showed that far more Republicans than Democrats were being influenced by Trump’s dismissive depictions of the virus and the comparably scornful coverage on Fox News and other conservative networks. As a result, Republicans were in distressingly large numbers refusing to change travel plans, follow “social distancing” guidelines, stock up on supplies or otherwise take the coronavirus threat seriously.

    “Denial is not likely to be a successful strategy for survival,” GOP pollster Neil Newhouse concluded in a document that was shared with GOP leaders on Capitol Hill and discussed widely at the White House. Trump’s most ardent supporters, it said, were “putting themselves and their loved ones in danger.”

    Trump’s message was changing as the report swept through the GOP’s senior ranks. In recent days, Trump has bristled at reminders that he had once claimed the caseload would soon be “down to zero.”

    More than 7,000 people have died of the coronavirus in the United States so far, with about 240,000 cases reported. But Trump has acknowledged that new models suggest that the eventual national death toll could be between 100,000 and 240,000.

    Beyond the suffering in store for thousands of victims and their families, the outcome has altered the international standing of the United States, damaging and diminishing its reputation as a global leader in times of extraordinary adversity.

    “This has been a real blow to the sense that America was competent,” said Gregory F. Treverton, a former chairman of the National Intelligence Council, the government’s senior-most provider of intelligence analysis. He stepped down from the NIC in January 2017 and now teaches at the University of Southern California. “That was part of our global role. Traditional friends and allies looked to us because they thought we could be competently called upon to work with them in a crisis. This has been the opposite of that.”

    This article, which retraces the failures over the first 70 days of the coronavirus crisis, is based on 47 interviews with administration officials, public health experts, intelligence officers and others involved in fighting the pandemic. Many spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information and decisions.

    Scanning the horizon

    Public health authorities are part of a special breed of public servant — along with counterterrorism officials, military planners, aviation authorities and others — whose careers are consumed with contemplating worst-case scenarios.

    The arsenal they wield against viral invaders is powerful, capable of smothering a new pathogen while scrambling for a cure, but easily overwhelmed if not mobilized in time. As a result, officials at the Department of Health and Human Services, the CDC and other agencies spend their days scanning the horizon for emerging dangers.

    The CDC learned of a cluster of cases in China on Dec. 31 and began developing reports for HHS on Jan. 1. But the most unambiguous warning that U.S. officials received about the coronavirus came Jan. 3, when Robert Redfield, the CDC director, received a call from a counterpart in China. The official told Redfield that a mysterious respiratory illness was spreading in Wuhan, a congested commercial city of 11 million people in the communist country’s interior.

    Redfield quickly relayed the disturbing news to Alex Azar, the secretary of HHS, the agency that oversees the CDC and other public health entities. Azar, in turn, ensured that the White House was notified, instructing his chief of staff to share the Chinese report with the National Security Council.

    From that moment, the administration and the virus were locked in a race against a ticking clock, a competition for the upper hand between pathogen and prevention that would dictate the scale of the outbreak when it reached American shores, and determine how many would get sick or die.
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    The initial response was promising, but officials also immediately encountered obstacles.

    On Jan. 6, Redfield sent a letter to the Chinese offering to send help, including a team of CDC scientists. China rebuffed the offer for weeks, turning away assistance and depriving U.S. authorities of an early chance to get a sample of the virus, critical for developing diagnostic tests and any potential vaccine.

    China impeded the U.S. response in other ways, including by withholding accurate information about the outbreak. Beijing had a long track record of downplaying illnesses that emerged within its borders, an impulse that U.S. officials attribute to a desire by the country’s leaders to avoid embarrassment and accountability with China’s 1.3 billion people and other countries that find themselves in the pathogen’s path.

    China stuck to this costly script in the case of the coronavirus, reporting Jan. 14 that it had seen “no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission.” U.S. officials treated the claim with skepticism that intensified when the first case surfaced outside China with a reported infection in Thailand.

    A week earlier, senior officials at HHS had begun convening an intra-agency task force including Redfield, Azar and Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. The following week, there were also scattered meetings at the White House with officials from the National Security Council and State Department, focused mainly on when and whether to bring back government employees in China.

    U.S. officials began taking preliminary steps to counter a potential outbreak. By mid-January, Robert Kadlec, an Air Force officer and physician who serves as assistant secretary for preparedness and response at HHS, had instructed subordinates to draw up contingency plans for enforcing the Defense Production Act, a measure that enables the government to compel private companies to produce equipment or devices critical to the country’s security. Aides were bitterly divided over whether to implement the act, and nothing happened for many weeks.

    On Jan. 14, Kadlec scribbled a single word in a notebook he carries: “Coronavirus!!!”

    Despite the flurry of activity at lower levels of his administration, Trump was not substantially briefed by health officials about the coronavirus until Jan.18, when, while spending the weekend at Mar-a-Lago, he took a call from Azar.

    Even before the heath secretary could get a word in about the virus, Trump cut him off and began criticizing Azar for his handling of an aborted federal ban on vaping products, a matter that vexed the president.

    At the time, Trump was in the throes of an impeachment battle over his alleged attempt to coerce political favors from the leader of Ukraine. Acquittal seemed certain by the GOP-controlled Senate, but Trump was preoccupied with the trial, calling lawmakers late at night to rant, and making lists of perceived enemies he would seek to punish when the case against him concluded.

    In hindsight, officials said, Azar could have been more forceful in urging Trump to turn at least some of his attention to a threat that would soon pose an even graver test to his presidency, a crisis that would cost American lives and consume the final year of Trump’s first term.

    But the secretary, who had a strained relationship with Trump and many others in the administration, assured the president that those responsible were working on and monitoring the issue. Azar told several associates that the president believed he was “alarmist” and Azar struggled to get Trump’s attention to focus on the issue, even asking one confidant for advice.

    Within days, there were new causes for alarm.

    On Jan. 21, a Seattle man who had recently traveled to Wuhan tested positive for the coronavirus, becoming the first known infection on U.S. soil. Then, two days later, Chinese authorities took the drastic step of shutting down Wuhan, turning the teeming metropolis into a ghost city of empty highways and shuttered skyscrapers, with millions of people marooned in their homes.

    “That was like, whoa,” said a senior U.S. official involved in White House meetings on the crisis. “That was when the Richter scale hit 8.”

    It was also when U.S. officials began to confront the failings of their own efforts to respond.

    Azar, who had served in senior positions at HHS through crises including the 9/11 terrorist attacks and the outbreak of bird flu in 2005, was intimately familiar with the playbook for crisis management.

    He instructed subordinates to move rapidly to establish a nationwide surveillance system to track the spread of the coronavirus — a stepped-up version of what the CDC does every year to monitor new strains of the ordinary flu.

    But doing so would require assets that would elude U.S. officials for months — a diagnostic test that could accurately identify those infected with the new virus and be produced on a mass scale for rapid deployment across the United States, and money to implement the system.

    Azar’s team also hit another obstacle. The Chinese were still refusing to share the viral samples they had collected and were using to develop their own tests. In frustration, U.S. officials looked for other possible routes.

    A biocontainment lab at the University of Texas medical branch in Galveston had a research partnership with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    Kadlec, who knew the Galveston lab director, hoped scientists could arrange a transaction on their own without government interference. At first, the lab in Wuhan agreed, but officials in Beijing intervened Jan. 24 and blocked any lab-to-lab transfer.

    There is no indication that officials sought to escalate the matter or enlist Trump to intervene. In fact, Trump has consistently praised Chinese President Xi Jinping despite warnings from U.S. intelligence and health officials that Beijing was concealing the true scale of the outbreak and impeding cooperation on key fronts.

    The CDC had issued its first public alert about the coronavirus Jan. 8, and by the 17th was monitoring major airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York, where large numbers of passengers arrived each day from China.

    In other ways, though, the situation was already spinning out of control, with multiplying cases in Seattle, intransigence by the Chinese, mounting questions from the public, and nothing in place to stop infected travelers from arriving from abroad.

    Trump was out of the country for this critical stretch, taking part in the annual global economic forum in Davos, Switzerland. He was accompanied by a contingent of top officials including national security adviser Robert O’Brien, who took a trans-Atlantic call from an anxious Azar.

    Azar told O’Brien that it was “mayhem” at the White House, with HHS officials being pressed to provide nearly identical briefings to three audiences on the same day.

    Azar urged O’Brien to have the NSC assert control over a matter with potential implications for air travel, immigration authorities, the State Department and the Pentagon. O’Brien seemed to grasp the urgency, and put his deputy, Matthew Pottinger, who had worked in China as a journalist for the Wall Street Journal, in charge of coordinating the still-nascent U.S. response.

    But the rising anxiety within the administration appeared not to register with the president. On Jan. 22, Trump received his first question about the coronavirus in an interview on CNBC while in Davos. Asked whether he was worried about a potential pandemic, Trump said, “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. . . . It’s going to be just fine.”

    Spreading uncontrollably

    \The move by the NSC to seize control of the response marked an opportunity to reorient U.S. strategy around containing the virus where possible and procuring resources that hospitals would need in any U.S. outbreak, including such basic equipment as protective masks and ventilators.

    But instead of mobilizing for what was coming, U.S. officials seemed more preoccupied with logistical problems, including how to evacuate Americans from China.

    In Washington, then-acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and Pottinger began convening meetings at the White House with senior officials from HHS, the CDC and the State Department.

    The group, which included Azar, Pottinger and Fauci, as well as nine others across the administration, formed the core of what would become the administration’s coronavirus task force. But it primarily focused on efforts to keep infected people in China from traveling to the United States even while evacuating thousands of U.S. citizens. The meetings did not seriously focus on testing or supplies, which have since become the administration’s most challenging problems.

    The task force was formally announced on Jan. 29.

    “The genesis of this group was around border control and repatriation,” said a senior official involved in the meetings. “It wasn’t a comprehensive, whole-of-government group to run everything.”

    The State Department agenda dominated those early discussions, according to participants. Officials began making plans to charter aircraft to evacuate 6,000 Americans stranded in Wuhan. They also debated language for travel advisories that State could issue to discourage other travel in and out of China.

    On Jan. 29, Mulvaney chaired a meeting in the White House Situation Room in which officials debated moving travel restrictions to “Level 4,” meaning a “do not travel” advisory from the State Department. Then, the next day, China took the draconian step of locking down the entire Hubei province, which encompasses Wuhan.

    That move by Beijing finally prompted a commensurate action by the Trump administration. On Jan. 31, Azar announced restrictions barring any non-U.S. citizen who had been in China during the preceding two weeks from entering the United States.

    Trump has, with some justification, pointed to the China-related restriction as evidence that he had responded aggressively and early to the outbreak. It was among the few intervention options throughout the crisis that played to the instincts of the president, who often seems fixated on erecting borders and keeping foreigners out of the country.

    But by that point, 300,000 people had come into the United States from China over the previous month. There were only 7,818 confirmed cases around the world at the end of January, according to figures released by the World Health Organization — but it is now clear that the virus was spreading uncontrollably.

    Pottinger was by then pushing for another travel ban, this time restricting the flow of travelers from Italy and other nations in the European Union that were rapidly emerging as major new nodes of the outbreak. Pottinger’s proposal was endorsed by key health-care officials, including Fauci, who argued that it was critical to close off any path the virus might take into the country.

    This time, the plan met with resistance from Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and others who worried about the impact on the U.S. economy. It was an early sign of tension in an area that would split the administration, pitting those who prioritized public health against those determined to avoid any disruption in an election year to the run of expansion and employment growth.

    Those backing the economy prevailed with the president. And it was more than a month before the administration issued a belated and confusing ban on flights into the United States from Europe. Hundreds of thousands of people crossed the Atlantic during that interval.

    A wall of resistance

    While fights over air travel played out in the White House, public health officials began to panic over a startling shortage of critical medical equipment including protective masks for doctors and nurses, as well as a rapidly shrinking pool of money needed to pay for such things.

    By early February, the administration was quickly draining a $105 million congressional fund to respond to infectious disease outbreaks. The coronavirus threat to the United States still seemed distant if not entirely hypothetical to much of the public. But to health officials charged with stockpiling supplies for worst-case-scenarios, disaster appeared increasingly inevitable.

    A national stockpile of N95 protective masks, gowns, gloves and other supplies was already woefully inadequate after years of underfunding. The prospects for replenishing that store were suddenly threatened by the unfolding crisis in China, which disrupted offshore supply chains.

    Much of the manufacturing of such equipment had long since migrated to China, where factories were now shuttered because workers were on order to stay in their households. At the same time, China was buying up masks and other gear to gird for its own coronavirus outbreak, driving up costs and monopolizing supplies.

    In late January and early February, leaders at HHS sent two letters to the White House Office of Management and Budget asking to use its transfer authority to shift $136 million of department funds into pools that could be tapped for combating the coronavirus. Azar and his aides also began raising the need for a multibillion-dollar supplemental budget request to send to Congress.

    Yet White House budget hawks argued that appropriating too much money at once when there were only a few U.S. cases would be viewed as alarmist.

    Joe Grogan, head of the Domestic Policy Council, clashed with health officials over preparedness. He mistrusted how the money would be used and questioned how health officials had used previous preparedness funds.

    Azar then spoke to Russell Vought, the acting director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, during Trump’s State of the Union speech on Feb. 4. Vought seemed amenable, and told Azar to submit a proposal.

    Azar did so the next day, drafting a supplemental request for more than $4 billion, a sum that OMB officials and others at the White House greeted as an outrage. Azar arrived at the White House that day for a tense meeting in the Situation Room that erupted in a shouting match, according to three people familiar with the incident.

    A deputy in the budget office accused Azar of preemptively lobbying Congress for a gigantic sum that White House officials had no interest in granting. Azar bristled at the criticism and defended the need for an emergency infusion. But his standing with White House officials, already shaky before the coronavirus crisis began, was damaged further.

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    White House officials relented to a degree weeks later as the feared coronavirus surge in the United States began to materialize. The OMB team whittled Azar’s demands down to $2.5 billion, money that would be available only in the current fiscal year. Congress ignored that figure, approving an $8 billion supplemental bill that Trump signed into law March 6.

    But again, delays proved costly. The disputes meant that the United States missed a narrow window to stockpile ventilators, masks and other protective gear before the administration was bidding against many other desperate nations, and state officials fed up with federal failures began scouring for supplies themselves.

    In late March, the administration ordered 10,000 ventilators — far short of what public health officials and governors said was needed. And many will not arrive until the summer or fall, when models expect the pandemic to be receding.

    “It’s actually kind of a joke,” said one administration official involved in deliberations about the belated purchase.

    Inconclusive tests

    Although viruses travel unseen, public health officials have developed elaborate ways of mapping and tracking their movements. Stemming an outbreak or slowing a pandemic in many ways comes down to the ability to quickly divide the population into those who are infected and those who are not.

    Doing so, however, hinges on having an accurate test to diagnose patients and deploy it rapidly to labs across the country. The time it took to accomplish that in the United States may have been more costly to American efforts than any other failing.

    “If you had the testing, you could say, ‘Oh my god, there’s circulating virus in Seattle, let’s jump on it. There’s circulating virus in Chicago, let’s jump on it,’ ” said a senior administration official involved in battling the outbreak. “We didn’t have that visibility.”

    The first setback came when China refused to share samples of the virus, depriving U.S. researchers of supplies to bombard with drugs and therapies in a search for ways to defeat it. But even when samples had been procured, the U.S. effort was hampered by systemic problems and institutional hubris.

    Among the costliest errors was a misplaced assessment by top health officials that the outbreak would probably be limited in scale inside the United States — as had been the case with every other infection for decades — and that the CDC could be trusted on its own to develop a coronavirus diagnostic test.

    The CDC, launched in the 1940s to contain an outbreak of malaria in the southern United States, had taken the lead on the development of diagnostic tests in major outbreaks including Ebola, zika and H1N1. But the CDC was not built to mass-produce tests.

    The CDC’s success had fostered an institutional arrogance, a sense that even in the face of a potential crisis there was no pressing need to involve private labs, academic institutions, hospitals and global health organizations also capable of developing tests.

    Yet some were concerned that the CDC test would not be enough. Stephen Hahn, the FDA commissioner, sought authority in early February to begin calling private diagnostic and pharmaceutical companies to enlist their help.

    FDA leaders were split on whether it would be bad optics for Hahn to be personally calling companies he regulated. When FDA officials consulted leaders at HHS, they understood it as a direction to stand down.

    At that point, Azar, the HHS secretary, seemed committed to a plan he was pursuing that would keep his agency at the center of the response effort: securing a test from the CDC and then building a national coronavirus surveillance system by relying on an existing network of labs used to track the ordinary flu.

    In task force meetings, Azar and Redfield pushed for $100 million to fund the plan, but were shot down because of the cost, according to a document outlining the testing strategy obtained by The Washington Post.

    Relying so heavily on the CDC would have been problematic even if it had succeeded in quickly developing an effective test that could be distributed across the country. The scale of the epidemic, and the need for mass testing far beyond the capabilities of the flu network, would have overwhelmed the plan, which didn’t envision engaging commercial lab companies for up to six months.

    The effort collapsed when the CDC failed its basic assignment to create a working test and the task force rejected Azar’s plan.

    On Feb. 6, when the World Health Organization reported that it was shipping 250,000 test kits to labs around the world, the CDC began distributing 90 kits to a smattering of state-run health labs.

    Almost immediately, the state facilities encountered problems. The results were inconclusive in trial runs at more than half the labs, meaning they couldn’t be relied upon to diagnose actual patients. The CDC issued a stopgap measure, instructing labs to send tests to its headquarters in Atlanta, a practice that would delay results for days.

    The scarcity of effective tests led officials to impose constraints on when and how to use them, and delayed surveillance testing. Initial guidelines were so restrictive that states were discouraged from testing patients exhibiting symptoms unless they had traveled to China and come into contact with a confirmed case, when the pathogen had by that point almost certainly spread more broadly into the general population.

    The limits left top officials largely blind to the true dimensions of the outbreak.

    In a meeting in the Situation Room in mid-February, Fauci and Redfield told White House officials that there was no evidence yet of worrisome person-to-person transmission in the United States. In hindsight, it appears almost certain that the virus was taking hold in communities at that point. But even the country’s top experts had little meaningful data about the domestic dimensions of the threat. Fauci later conceded that as they learned more their views changed.

    At the same time, as the president’s subordinates were growing increasingly alarmed, Trump continued to exhibit little concern. On Feb. 10, he held a political rally in New Hampshire attended by thousands where he declared that “by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”

    The New Hampshire rally was one of eight that Trump held after he had been told by Azar about the coronavirus, a period when he also went to his golf courses six times.

    A day earlier, on Feb. 9, a group of governors in town for a black-tie gala at the White House secured a private meeting with Fauci and Redfield. The briefing rattled many of the governors, bearing little resemblance to the words of the president. “The doctors and the scientists, they were telling us then exactly what they are saying now,” Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) said.

    That month, federal medical and public health officials were emailing increasingly dire forecasts among themselves, with one Veterans Affairs medical adviser warning, ‘We are flying blind,’” according to emails obtained by the watchdog group American Oversight.

    Later in February, U.S. officials discovered indications that the CDC laboratory was failing to meet basic quality-control standards. On a Feb. 27 conference call with a range of health officials, a senior FDA official lashed out at the CDC for its repeated lapses.

    Jeffrey Shuren, the FDA’s director for devices and radiological health, told the CDC that if it were subjected to the same scrutiny as a privately run lab, “I would shut you down.”

    On Feb. 29, a Washington state man became the first American to die of a coronavirus infection. That same day, the FDA released guidance, signaling that private labs were free to proceed in developing their own diagnostics.

    Another four-week stretch had been squandered.

    Life and death

    One week later, on March 6, Trump toured the facilities at the CDC wearing a red “Keep America Great” hat. He boasted that the CDC tests were nearly perfect and that “anybody who wants a test will get a test,” a promise that nearly a month later remains unmet.

    He also professed to have a keen medical mind. “I like this stuff. I really get it,” he said. “People here are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ ”

    In reality, many of the failures to stem the coronavirus outbreak in the United States were either a result of, or exacerbated by, his leadership.

    For weeks, he had barely uttered a word about the crisis that didn’t downplay its severity or propagate demonstrably false information. He dismissed the warnings of intelligence officials and top public health officials in his administration.

    At times, he voiced far more authentic concern about the trajectory of the stock market than the spread of the virus in the United States, railing at the chairman of the Federal Reserve and others with an intensity that he never seemed to exhibit about the possible human toll of the outbreak.

    In March, as state after state imposed sweeping new restrictions on their citizens’ daily lives to protect them — triggering severe shudders in the economy — Trump second-guessed the lockdowns.

    The common flu kills tens of thousands each year and “nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on,” he tweeted March 9. A day later, he pledged that the virus would “go away. Just stay calm.”

    Two days later, Trump finally ordered the halt to incoming travel from Europe that his deputy national security adviser had been advocating for weeks. But Trump botched the Oval Office announcement so badly that White House officials spent days trying to correct erroneous statements that triggered a stampede by U.S. citizens overseas to get home.

    “There was some coming to grips with the problem and the true nature of it — the 13th of March is when I saw him really turn the corner. It took a while to realize you’re at war,” Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) said. “That’s when he took decisive action that set in motion some real payoffs.”

    Trump spent many weeks shuffling responsibility for leading his administration’s response to the crisis, putting Azar in charge of the task force at first, relying on Pottinger, the deputy national security adviser, for brief periods, before finally putting Vice President Pence in the role toward the end of February.

    Other officials have emerged during the crisis to help right the United States’ course, and at times, the statements of the president. But even as Fauci, Azar and others sought to assert themselves, Trump was behind the scenes turning to others with no credentials, experience or discernible insight in navigating a pandemic.

    Foremost among them was his adviser and son-in-law, Jared Kushner. A team reporting to Kushner commandeered space on the seventh floor of the HHS building to pursue a series of inchoate initiatives.

    One plan involved having Google create a website to direct those with symptoms to testing facilities that were supposed to spring up in Walmart parking lots across the country, but which never materialized. Another centered on an idea advanced by Oracle chairman Larry Ellison to use software to monitor the unproven use of anti-malaria drugs against the coronavirus pathogen.

    So far, the plans have failed to come close to delivering on the promises made when they were touted in White House news conferences. The Kushner initiatives have, however, often interrupted the work of those under immense pressure to manage the U.S. response.

    Current and former officials said that Kadlec, Fauci, Redfield and others have repeatedly had to divert their attentions from core operations to contend with ill-conceived requests from the White House they don’t believe they can ignore. And Azar, who once ran the response, has since been sidelined, with his agency disempowered in decision-making and his performance pilloried by a range of White House officials, including Kushner.

    “Right now Fauci is trying to roll out the most ambitious clinical trial ever implemented” to hasten the development of a vaccine, said a former senior administration official in frequent touch with former colleagues. And yet, the nation’s top health officials “are getting calls from the White House or Jared’s team asking, ‘Wouldn’t it be nice to do this with Oracle?’ ”

    If the coronavirus has exposed the country’s misplaced confidence in its ability to handle a crisis, it also has cast harsh light on the limits of Trump’s approach to the presidency — his disdain for facts, science and experience.

    He has survived other challenges to his presidency — including the Russia investigation and impeachment — by fiercely contesting the facts arrayed against him and trying to control the public’s understanding of events with streams of falsehoods.

    The coronavirus may be the first crisis Trump has faced in office where the facts — the thousands of mounting deaths and infections — are so devastatingly evident that they defy these tactics.

    After months of dismissing the severity of the coronavirus, resisting calls for austere measures to contain it, and recasting himself as a wartime president, Trump seemed finally to succumb to the coronavirus reality. In a meeting with a Republican ally in the Oval Office last month, the president said his campaign no longer mattered because his reelection would hinge on his coronavirus response.

    “It’s absolutely critical for the American people to follow the guidelines for the next 30 days,” he said at his March 31 news conference. “It’s a matter of life and death.”

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    Clinical Trials Set To Determine If Anti-Malaria Drug Effective Against COVID-19

    https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/31/824572119/clinical-trials-set-to-determine-if-anti-malaria-drug-effective-against-covid-19

    A pack of Plaquenil, (Hydrochloroquine) is displayed in a Parisian pharmacy on Tuesday in Paris, France. Chloroquine or Hydroxychloroquine, is now one treatments being evaluated in clinical trials as a possible preventative or treatment for COVID-19.
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    A nationwide trial is underway to see if the drug hydroxychloroquine can prevent disease in people exposed to the novel coronavirus. A second trial will test to see if the drug can prevent severe disease in people who are already showing COVID-19 symptoms.

    The trials are being run by David Boulware, an infectious disease scientist at the University of Minnesota.

    “My normal research is doing clinical trials in Africa for fungal meningitis of the brain,” Boulware says.

    But the COVID-19 demanded his attention. “Somebody needed to do something,” he says, “so I got my team together and we sort of jumped on this.”

    That was on March 9. Eight days later, the trial was up and running. Hydroxychloroquine has been used for decades as a treatment for malaria. The rationale for trying it as a preventative for COVID-19 is based on laboratory studies that show the drug is capable of keeping the coronavirus from entering cells.

    In the prevention part of the trial, Boulware and his colleagues are looking for people who recently had contact with someone who tested positive for the virus, for example healthcare workers or people living with someone who is infected. Recruiting is done online.

    Once someone joins the study, they take either the drug or a placebo for five days. As of March 31, Boulware says he and his team had enrolled 558 volunteers. The aim is to recruit 1,500 people. With that number of volunteers, they should be able to determine if the drug is able to reduce the progression to disease by half or more.

    The trial is double blind — neither the patients participating nor the doctors providing it know who is getting the active drug and who is getting the placebo.

    Boulware says the trial has the approval of the Food and Drug Administration. Although the final results are several weeks off, a committee of independent experts known as the data safety and monitoring board will take an initial look at the results next week.

    In the other part of the study, Bouware says his team is recruiting patients who are already showing signs of the disease. They are not giving the drug to people who are hospitalized.

    Here again, patients will take hydroxychloroquine for five days to see if it slows the progression of the disease.

    Many people, including President Trump, have been touting the promise of hydroxychloroquine without much data to back that up.

    “Our goal is to find out, does this actually work,” Boulware says.

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    “Solidarity” clinical trial for COVID-19 treatments

    https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/global-research-on-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov/solidarity-clinical-trial-for-covid-19-treatments

    “Solidarity” is an international clinical trial to help find an effective treatment for COVID-19, launched by the World Health Organization and partners.

    The Solidarity trial will compare four treatment options against standard of care, to assess their relative effectiveness against COVID-19. By enrolling patients in multiple countries, the Solidarity trial aims to rapidly discover whether any of the drugs slow disease progression or improve survival. Other drugs can be added based on emerging evidence.

    Until there is sufficient evidence, WHO cautions against physicians and medical associations recommending or administering these unproven treatments to patients with COVID-19 or people self-medicating with them. WHO is concerned by reports of individuals self-medicating with chloroquine and causing themselves serious harm. WHO guidance on compassionate use can be found here.

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    Landscape analysis of therapeutics

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    WHO Director-General’s opening remarks at the media briefing on COVID-19 – 18 March 2020
    Rationale
    The pressure COVID-19 puts on health systems means that WHO considered the need for speed and scale in the trial. While randomized clinical trials normally take years to design and conduct, the Solidarity trial will reduce the time taken by 80%.

    Enrolling patients in one single randomized trial will help facilitate the rapid worldwide comparison of unproven treatments. This will overcome the risk of multiple small trials not generating the strong evidence needed to determine the relative effectiveness of potential treatments.

    Participation in Solidarity
    The Solidarity trial provides simplified procedures to enable even overloaded hospitals to participate, with no paperwork required. As of March 27 2020, over 70 countries have already confirmed they will contribute to the trial, with many others in the process of joining.

    The greater the number of participating countries, the faster results will be generated. WHO is facilitating access to thousands of treatment courses for the trial through donations from a number of manufacturers. WHO is also inviting developers and companies to collaborate on ensuring affordability and availability of the treatment options if they prove effective.

    Treatment options under study
    Based on evidence from laboratory, animal and clinical studies, the following treatment options were selected: Remdesivir; Lopinavir/Ritonavir; Lopinavir/Ritonavir with Interferon beta-1a; and Chloroquine or Hydroxychloroquine.

    Remdesivir was previously tested as an Ebola treatment. It has generated promising results in animal studies for Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), which are also caused by coronaviruses, suggesting it may have some effect in patients with COVID-19.

    Lopinavir/Ritonavir is a licensed treatment for HIV. Evidence for COVID-19, MERS and SARS is yet to show it can improve clinical outcomes or prevent infection. This trial aims to identify and confirm any benefit for COVID-19 patients. While there are indications from laboratory experiments that this combination may be effective against COVID-19, studies done so far in COVID-19 patients have been inconclusive.

    Interferon beta-1a is used to treat multiple sclerosis.

    Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are very closely related and used to treat malaria and rheumatology conditions respectively. In China and France, small studies provided some indications of possible benefit of chloroquine phosphate against pneumonia caused by COVID-19 but need confirmation through randomized trials.

    Support for Solidarity
    “The quest for knowledge about the coronavirus is a global effort. The Solidarity trial is an import part of the puzzle. I am proud that Norway will contribute both by having the first patient included in the study. I would like to commend the WHO for the global leadership and its initiative in setting up the Solidarity trial.”

    – Bent Høie, Minister of Health and Care Services, Norway

    “There is only one way the world can exit this pandemic – and that is through science. We need diagnostics to detect and limit the spread of this virus, vaccines to provide long-term protection, treatments to save lives in the shorter-term and social science to understand the behavioural and societal implications. It’s critical that the global research effort is rapid, robust and is conducted at scale and co-ordinated across multiple countries. The World Health Organization’s Solidarity trial will provide this by testing existing and new drugs to treat COVID-19 and ensure equitable access to any drugs that prove effective. The start of these clinical trials is hugely important and an incredible achievement. Global powers must now step-up to ensure the WHO has all the support needed.”

    – Dr Jeremy Farrar, Director of Wellcome and Chair of the WHO R&D Blueprint Scientific Advisory Group

    How the Solidarity trial works
    Adults with COVID-19 admitted to participant hospitals can join this study. Eligible patients will be asked to sign to show they understand the possible risks and benefits and consent to joining the study. The medical team responsible for each patient will check whether any of the study treatments would definitely be unsuitable.

    After those checks, brief identifying details and any other conditions are digitally recorded for the patient, who is then randomly allocated to one of the study options. This may or may not involve one of the study treatments. Neither the patient nor the medical staff choose which of the study options a patient will receive, as a computer makes this allocation at random.

    Critical anonymized information for the trial will only be collected at the randomization stage and when the patient is discharged or dies: which study drugs were given (and for how many days); whether ventilation or intensive care was received (and, if so, when it began), date of discharge, or date and cause of death while still in hospital.

    Interim trial analyses are monitored by a Global Data and Safety Monitoring Committee, which is an independent group of experts.

    Countries, or particular groups of hospitals, may want to collaborate in making further serial measurements or observations, relating to areas such as virology, blood gases or chemistry and lung imaging. It also possible to incorporate documentation of other aspects of disease status, for example, through linking in electronic healthcare records and routine medical databases. While well-organised additional research studies of the natural history of the disease or of the effects of the trial treatments could well be valuable, they are not core requirements.

    Adults (age ≥18 years) recently hospitalised, or already in hospital, with confirmed COVID-19 and, in the view of the responsible doctor, no contra-indication to any of the study treatments will be randomly allocated between

    ● Local standard of care,

    OR local standard of care plus one of

    ● Remdesivir

    ● Chloroquine or Hydroxychloroquine

    ● Lopinavir with Ritonavir

    ● Lopinavir with Ritonavir plus Interferon beta-1a.

    Underlying conditions recorded are: diabetes, heart disease, chronic lung disease, chronic liver disease and asthma, extending to HIV and tuberculosis in the African region.

    Severity of illness at entry is determined by recording: shortness of breath, being given oxygen, already on a ventilator, and, if lungs imaged, major bilateral abnormality.

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    Chloroquine inhibits the virus in test-tubes, is used with Lupus patients as an anti-inflamatory. Might prove effective, might not.
    This scientist has some thots on other approaches.
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    In reply to: Coronavirus and Us

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    Looks like most of us here are at risk, in one way or another, and/or have family and friends in rough straits. I wish you and yours great health, safety and longevity. Be well and wash your hands!!

    Not saying anything new here, of course, but difficult times can bring out the best in us, and I think it does for most people. Not all. But most. I’ve noticed for a long time now, for instance, that cancer patients routinely try to make desk personnel and nursing staff laugh, as we make light of our own conditions. I tend to do what some now call “Dad jokes,” because I’ve never been good at repeating better known comedy stuff. Bad puns, more often than not. Since we basically have captive audiences, they don’t throw tomatoes at us, though they might, if they had them on hand.

    In the end, there are no good answers, I think I believe. Only love and laughter, which bring us hope. Am reading a good bio of Montaigne right now, by Sarah Bakewell, that has me pondering these things even more than usual:

    Books

    How to Live. (I loved her At the Existentialist Cafe, so grabbed this one when I saw it on the E-book list in Libby. Makes me want to read his complete essays, which I have on my bookshelf, but have never tackled in full.)

    He was greatly influenced by the Ancients, especially the Stoics, Skeptics and Epicureans. Eudaimonia was their goal, and they sought Ataraxia to get there.

    A quote I found on the Internet. It’s really not as maudlin or morbid as it may sound initially:

    If you don’t know how to die, don’t worry; Nature will tell you what to do on the spot, fully and adequately. She will do this job perfectly for you; don’t bother your head about it.

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    Trump administration changes definition of national stockpile after Kushner remarks

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491037-trump-administration-changes-definition-of-national-stockpile-after?fbclid=IwAR2lHXc3N0KElN6ArXDF6KNCj5wN8h6nnMywBferCCTm2EeVZ_qVHi0C65Y&fbclid=IwAR076Nbty2YJqqQD7RvJUTomb0X_2Y8qBDKg6fXyamKYKGHLES5-T2hNKCU

    The Trump administration quietly changed an online description of the country’s Strategic National Stockpile following a press briefing with White House adviser Jared Kushner.

    Previously, according to the federal public health emergency website, the Strategic National Stockpile was described as “the nation’s largest supply of life-saving pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for use in a public health emergency severe enough to cause local supplies to run out.”

    The description continued: “When state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their response efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get to those who need them most during an emergency.”

    That definition disappeared from the site on Friday.

    The new, one-paragraph description says the stockpile is meant as a “short-term stopgap.”

    “The Strategic National Stockpile’s role is to supplement state and local supplies during public health emergencies. Many states have products stockpiled, as well. The supplies, medicines, and devices for life-saving care contained in the stockpile can be used as a short-term stopgap buffer when the immediate supply of adequate amounts of these materials may not be immediately available,” the website now says.

    In a statement posted to the HHS Public Affairs Twitter account, the agency said it “first began working to update this text a week ago to more clearly explain the role of the Strategic National Stockpile. HHS has been using this same language in statements to the press for weeks now.”

    The language more closely matches what Kushner said on Thursday when he made his coronavirus task force briefing debut.

    Kushner, a senior adviser and the president’s son-in-law, was recently directed to work with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) on supply chain issues related to the coronavirus outbreak. He is said to have assumed the role roughly two weeks ago.

    Kushner said states should be more resourceful in procuring supplies for themselves, and not be relying on the federal government for assistance.

    “The notion of the federal stockpile was it’s supposed to be our stockpile, it’s not supposed to be the state’s stockpile that they then use,” Kushner said.

    Kushner accused some state officials of requesting supplies without knowing what they need.

    “Some governors you speak to, or senators, and they don’t know what’s in their state,” Kushner said when asked by a reporter what it takes for a state to receive ventilators from the national stockpile.

    “Don’t ask us for things when you don’t know what you have in your own state. Just because you’re scared, you ask your medical professionals and they don’t know. You have to take inventory of what you have in your own state and then you have to be able to show that there’s a real need,” Kushner said.

    The COVID-19 pandemic has forced the federal government to deplete much of its reserves as states and hospitals nationwide struggle with a surge of critical patients. FEMA officials recently told a House panel that the government has fewer than 10,000 ventilators in stock.

    Governors have been pleading with the Trump administration for help, and have continually said they are not receiving nearly enough supplies from the stockpile to address the surge in hospitalizations.

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    The Coronavirus’s Unique Threat to the South
    More young people in the South seem to be dying from COVID-19. Why?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/coronavirus-unique-threat-south-young-people/609241/?fbclid=IwAR1coFYUSsDUD4MjqqI_maioBfb41N1l55xUWxHXbNcB-DJCpKTU6otC1QY

    In a matter of weeks, the coronavirus has gone from a novel, distant threat to an enemy besieging cities and towns across the world. The burden of COVID-19 and the economic upheaval wrought by the measures to contain it feel epochal. Humanity now has a common foe, and we will grow increasingly familiar with its face.

    Yet plenty of this virus’s aspects remain unknown. The developing wisdom—earned the hard way in Wuhan, Washington, and Italy—has been that older people and sicker people are substantially more likely to suffer severe illness or die from COVID-19 than their younger, healthier counterparts. Older people are much more likely than young people to have lung disease, kidney disease, hypertension, or heart disease, and those conditions are more likely to transform a coronavirus infection into something nastier. But what happens when these assumptions don’t hold up, and the young people battling the pandemic share the same risks?

    The world is about to find out. So far, about one in 10 deaths in the United States from COVID-19 has occurred in the four-state arc of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia, according to data assembled by the COVID Tracking Project, a volunteer collaboration incubated at The Atlantic. New Orleans is on pace to become the next global epicenter of the pandemic. The virus has a foothold in southwestern Georgia, and threatens to overwhelm hospitals in the Atlanta metropolitan area. The coronavirus is advancing quickly across the American South. And in the American South, significant numbers of younger people are battling health conditions that make coronavirus outbreaks more perilous.

    The numbers emerging seem to indicate that more young people in the South are dying from COVID-19. Although the majority of coronavirus-related deaths in Louisiana are still among victims over 70 years old, 43 percent of all reported deaths have been people under 70. In Georgia, people under 70 make up 49 percent of reported deaths. By comparison, people under 70 account for only 20 percent of deaths in Colorado. “Under 70” is a broad category, not really useful for understanding what’s going on. But digging deeper reveals more concerning numbers. In Louisiana, people from the ages of 40 to 59 account for 22 percent of all deaths. The same age range in Georgia accounts for 17 percent of all deaths. By comparison, the same age group accounts for only about 10 percent of all deaths in Colorado, and 6 percent of all deaths in Washington State. These statistics suggest that middle-aged and working-age adults in the two southern states are at much greater risk than their counterparts elsewhere; for some reason, they are more likely to die from COVID-19.

    All data in this stage of the pandemic are provisional and incomplete, and all conclusions are subject to change. But a review of the international evidence shows that, as far as we know, the outbreaks currently expanding in the American South are unique—and mainly because of how many people in their working prime are dying. Spain’s official accounting of the pandemic last week showed that deaths among people under 70 years old make up only about 12 percent of total deaths in the country. Case-fatality rates around the world are notoriously tricky because they are based in part on the extent of testing, but a recent study of the outbreak in Wuhan, China, found a case-fatality rate of 0.5 percent among adults from the ages of 30 to 59. The current estimate of fatality rates in the same age range in Louisiana is about four times that.

    A recent analysis from the Kaiser Family Foundation might shed some light on what’s going on here. The paper, drawing on the CDC guidelines, identifies people who may be at risk of serious complications from COVID-19. Kaiser’s at-risk group includes all people over 60 years old and all adults younger than 60 who also have heart disease, cancer, lung disease, or diabetes. In each state, older people are the majority of the people considered to be at risk of complications. But the Deep South and mid-South form a solid bloc of states where younger adults are much more at risk. In Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Mississippi, relatively young people make up over a quarter of the vulnerable population. Compare that with the coronavirus’s beachhead in Washington State, where younger adults make up only about 19 percent of the risk group.

    Tricia Neuman, a senior vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation, says this analysis points to the underlying issues that might complicate or worsen the pandemic in the South. “Due to high rates of conditions like lung disease and heart disease and obesity, the people living in these states are at risk if they get the virus,” Neuman told me. These aren’t “people who are sick, but these are people who have underlying comorbidities that put them at higher risk of serious illness if they get infected.”

    The KFF analysis doesn’t include potential complications from hypertension—which is also suspected to be driving coronavirus-linked hospitalizations—but the data are predictable on that front. If you define Oklahoma as part of the South, southern states fill out the entirety of the top ten states in percentage of population diagnosed with hypertension by a doctor. Southerners are more likely to suffer from chronic diseases than other Americans—even as Americans are more likely to suffer from chronic disease than citizens of other countries with comparable wealth. According to Neuman, these estimates don’t include people with cancer or who are immunocompromised — groups that are also at high risk for serious illness from COVID-19. And cancer mortality rates are highest in southern states.

    These differences are not innate to southerners; they are the result of policy. Health disparities tend to track both race and poverty, and the states in the old domain of Jim Crow have pursued policies that ensure those disparities endure. The South is the poorest region in the country. The poor, black, Latino, or rural residents who make up large shares of southern populations tend to lack access to high-quality doctors and care. According to the State Health Access Data Assistance Center, Mississippi, North Carolina, Texas, Florida, Georgia, and Louisiana all spend less than $25 per person on public health a year, compared to $84 per person in New York. Nine of the 14 states that have refused to expand Medicaid to poor residents under the Affordable Care Act are in the South. And many of those states are led by Republican leaders who have imitated President Donald Trump’s dallying and flip-flopping, and now find themselves flat-footed.

    The slow response from those governors will be even more ruinous in a region with so many challenges. Chronic disease and the apparent increased risk for younger people from COVID-19 are only part of the story in the South. Other factors could complicate its pandemic response. Advocates have drawn attention to the extreme vulnerability of people in prison to the coronavirus—and the South incarcerates a larger proportion of its population than anywhere else in the United States. A federal prison in Louisiana has already seen a spike in COVID-19 cases this week. Also, a global fear in this pandemic is that it will sicken health professionals and doctors, and leave them unable to contend with waves of hospitalizations. Southern states have some of the lowest ratios of active physicians to patients in the country.

    In all, the South seems likely to be a new kind of battleground, one in which distancing and isolation are going to be especially important in stopping the virus. Centuries of policy gave the pandemic a head start—and younger targets—in the South. Now there are mere days to change course.

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    Protective gear in national stockpile is nearly depleted, DHS officials say

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/protective-gear-in-national-stockpile-is-nearly-depleted-dhs-officials-say/ar-BB122cFl

    The government’s emergency stockpile of respirator masks, gloves and other medical supplies is running low and is nearly exhausted due to the coronavirus outbreak, leaving the Trump administration and the states to compete for personal protective equipment in a freewheeling global marketplace rife with profiteering and price-gouging, according to Department of Homeland Security officials involved in the frantic acquisition effort.

    As coronavirus hotspots flare from coast to coast, the demand for safety equipment — also known as personal protective equipment (PPE) — is both immediate and widespread, with health officials, hospital executives and governors saying that their shortages are critical and that health-care workers are putting their lives at risk while trying to help the surging number of patients.

    Two DHS officials said the stores kept in the Department of Health and Human Service’s Strategic National Stockpile are nearly gone, despite assurances from the White House that there is availability.

    “The stockpile was designed to respond to handful of cities. It was never built or designed to fight a 50-state pandemic,” said a DHS official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to speak publicly about the stockpile. “This is not only a U.S. government problem. The supply chain for PPE worldwide has broken down, and there is a lot of price-gouging happening.”

    President Trump said during Tuesday’s White House briefing that the administration has nearly 10,000 ventilators on reserve and that authorities are ready to deploy the lifesaving equipment rapidly to coronavirus hotspots in coming weeks. He also said large amounts of PPE were being shipped directly from manufacturers to hospitals. But the DHS officials said the stockpile has not been able to handle the load.

    Hospitals and states face a real risk of running out of supplies, one of the officials said. “If you can’t protect the people taking care of us, it gets ugly.”

    Several reports in recent days have documented a Wild West-style online marketplace for bulk medical supplies dominated by intermediaries and hoarders who are selling N95 respirator masks and other gear at huge markups. Forbes reported that U.S. vendors have sold 280 million masks — mostly into the export market — and that U.S. states and local governments were outbid in the frenzy.

    There are few signs the Trump administration is making efforts to stop the export shipments or seize the supplies for use in U.S. hospitals, despite statements from Attorney General William P. Barr last week that U.S. wholesalers hoarding masks and other supplies would get “a knock on your door.”

    Governors have been pleading with federal authorities to ship more equipment and protective gear. Distribution of the supplies has happened unevenly, with some states saying they’ve received a fraction of the supplies they desperately need and some cities having received no assistance from their state governments.

    The world is battling the COVID-19 outbreak that the World Health Organization declared a global pandemic, which has claimed more than 4,720 lives and infected more than 211,698 people in the U.S.

    Officials at the Federal Emergency Management Agency said the government had anticipated the Strategic National Stockpile would be exhausted, and the administration is moving swiftly to procure and distribute medical supplies.

    “FEMA planning assumptions for COVID-19 pandemic response acknowledged that the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) alone could not fulfill all requirements at the State and tribal level,” Janet Montesi, a FEMA spokeswoman, said in a statement. “The federal government will exhaust all means to identify and attain medical and other supplies needed to combat the virus.”

    a group of shoes on the floor: N95 particulate respirator masks and procedure face masks shown at a Dealmed-Park Surgical supply facility in Lakewood, N.J.© Victor J. Blue/Bloomberg N95 particulate respirator
    masks and procedure face masks shown at a Dealmed-Park Surgical supply facility in Lakewood, N.J.
    The government has more than $16 billion available to make the acquisitions, she said.

    “We remain committed to helping ensure key medical supplies expeditiously arrive at the front lines for our health care workers,” Montesi said.

    According to the White House, FEMA had shipped or delivered 11.6 million N95 respirator masks, 26 million surgical masks, 5.2 million face shields, 4.3 million surgical gowns, 22 million gloves and 8,100 ventilators as of March 28.

    A stockpile of 1.5 million expired N95 masks that U.S. Customs and Border Protection has in storage will be distributed to the Transportation Security Administration and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, CBP said in a statement. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has issued guidelines for the safe use of masks with expiration dates that have passed, potentially leaving their elastic bands too loose to form a proper face seal.

    Rep. Nanette Barragán (D-Calif.) said this week she and other lawmakers were told some of the expired CBP masks would be given to hospitals.

    “Officials confirmed that the masks would indeed go to healthcare workers and be prioritized by highest need such as NY and NJ. I will follow up to make sure this happens!” the lawmaker tweeted Sunday.

    A CBP official on Wednesday confirmed to The Washington Post that the masks would go to ICE agents and TSA officers instead, not to FEMA staff or medical personnel.

    The government has long viewed the national stockpile supplies as a holdover during an emergency so the government could buy time for manufacturers to boost output and for new supply chains to solidify, according to a senior administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to speak publicly. Having the medical supplies sitting in a warehouse doesn’t serve any purpose, the official said, even though the administration has been holding back thousands of ventilators.

    Asked about concerns that the government will not be able to keep pace with the demand for PPE supplies, the official said the government has planes coming in from Asia every day for the next few weeks ferrying new materials, noting that a planeload with 80 tons of PPE arrived from China on Sunday.

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    The Lost Month: How a Failure to Test Blinded the U.S. to Covid-19
    Aggressive screening might have helped contain the coronavirus in the United States. But technical flaws, regulatory hurdles and lapses in leadership let it spread undetected for weeks.

    link https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/testing-coronavirus-pandemic.html

    WASHINGTON — Early on, the dozen federal officials charged with defending America against the coronavirus gathered day after day in the White House Situation Room, consumed by crises. They grappled with how to evacuate the United States consulate in Wuhan, China, ban Chinese travelers and extract Americans from the Diamond Princess and other cruise ships.

    The members of the coronavirus task force typically devoted only five or 10 minutes, often at the end of contentious meetings, to talk about testing, several participants recalled. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, its leaders assured the others, had developed a diagnostic model that would be rolled out quickly as a first step.

    But as the deadly virus from China spread with ferocity across the United States between late January and early March, large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen — because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies and lack of leadership at multiple levels, according to interviews with more than 50 current and former public health officials, administration officials, senior scientists and company executives.

    The result was a lost month, when the world’s richest country — armed with some of the most highly trained scientists and infectious disease specialists — squandered its best chance of containing the virus’s spread. Instead, Americans were left largely blind to the scale of a looming public health catastrophe.

    The absence of robust screening until it was “far too late” revealed failures across the government, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, the former C.D.C. director. Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins, said the Trump administration had “incredibly limited” views of the pathogen’s potential impact. Dr. Margaret Hamburg, the former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, said the lapse enabled “exponential growth of cases.”

    And Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, a top government scientist involved in the fight against the virus, told members of Congress that the early inability to test was “a failing” of the administration’s response to a deadly, global pandemic. “Why,” he asked later in a magazine interview, “were we not able to mobilize on a broader scale?”

    Across the government, they said, three agencies responsible for detecting and combating threats like the coronavirus failed to prepare quickly enough. Even as scientists looked at China and sounded alarms, none of the agencies’ directors conveyed the urgency required to spur a no-holds-barred defense.

    Dr. Robert R. Redfield, 68, a former military doctor and prominent AIDS researcher who directs the C.D.C., trusted his veteran scientists to create the world’s most precise test for the coronavirus and share it with state laboratories. When flaws in the test became apparent in February, he promised a quick fix, though it took weeks to settle on a solution.

    The C.D.C. also tightly restricted who could get tested and was slow to conduct “community-based surveillance,” a standard screening practice to detect the virus’s reach. Had the United States been able to track its earliest movements and identify hidden hot spots, local quarantines might have confined the disease.

    Dr. Stephen Hahn, 60, the commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, enforced regulations that paradoxically made it tougher for hospitals, private clinics and companies to deploy diagnostic tests in an emergency. Other countries that had mobilized businesses were performing tens of thousands of tests daily, compared with fewer than 100 on average in the United States, frustrating local health officials, lawmakers and desperate Americans.

    Alex M. Azar II, who led the Department of Health and Human Services, oversaw the two other agencies and coordinated the government’s public health response to the pandemic. While he grew frustrated as public criticism over the testing issues intensified, he was unable to push either agency to speed up or change course.

    Mr. Azar, 52, who chaired the coronavirus task force until late February, when Vice President Mike Pence took charge, had been at odds for months with the White House over other issues. The task force’s chief liaison to the president was Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, who was being forced out by Mr. Trump. Without high-level interest — or demands for action — the testing issue festered.

    At the start of that crucial lost month, when his government could have rallied, the president was distracted by impeachment and dismissive of the threat to the public’s health or the nation’s economy. By the end of the month, Mr. Trump claimed the virus was about to dissipate in the United States, saying: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”

    By early March, after federal officials finally announced changes to expand testing, it was too late. With the early lapses, containment was no longer an option. The tool kit of epidemiology would shift — lockdowns, social disruption, intensive medical treatment — in hopes of mitigating the harm.

    Now, the United States has more than 100,000 coronavirus cases, the most of any country in the world. Deaths are rising, cities are shuttered, the economy is sputtering and everyday life is upended. And still, many Americans sickened by the virus cannot get tested.

    In a statement, Judd Deere, a White House spokesman, said that “any suggestion that President Trump did not take the threat of Covid-19 seriously or that the United States was not prepared is false.” He added that at Mr. Trump’s direction, the administration had “expanded testing capacities.”

    Dr. Bruce Aylward, a senior adviser at the World Health Organization, led an expert team to China last month to research the mysterious new virus. Testing, he said, was “absolutely vital” for understanding how to defeat a disease — what distinguishes it from others, the spectrum of illness and, most important, its path through populations.

    “You want to know whether or not you have it,” Dr. Aylward said. “You want to know whether the people around you have it. Because you know what? Then you could stop it.”

    “You can’t stop it,” he warned, “if you can’t see it.”

    A Startling Setback

    The first time Dr. Robert Redfield heard about the severity of the virus from his Chinese counterparts was around New Year’s Day, when he was on vacation with his family. He spent so much time on the phone that they barely saw him. And what he heard rattled him; in one grim conversation about the virus days later, George F. Gao, the director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, burst into tears.

    Dr. Redfield, a longtime AIDS researcher, had never run a government agency before his appointment to lead the C.D.C. in 2018. Until then, his biggest priorities had been fighting the opioid epidemic and the spread of H.I.V. Suddenly, a man who preferred treating patients in Haiti or Africa to being in the public glare was facing a new pandemic threat.

    At first, Dr. Redfield’s agency moved quickly.

    On Jan. 7, the C.D.C. created an “incident management system” for the coronavirus and advised travelers to Wuhan to take precautions. By Jan. 20, just two weeks after Chinese scientists shared the genetic sequence of the virus, the C.D.C. had developed its own test, as usual, and deployed it to detect the country’s first coronavirus case.

    “That’s our prime mission,” Dr. Redfield said later in an interview, “to get eyes on this thing.”

    Assessing the virus would prove challenging. It was so new that scientists had little information to work with. China provided limited data, and rebuffed an early attempt by Mr. Azar and Dr. Redfield to send C.D.C. experts there to learn more. That the virus could cause no symptoms and still spread — something not initially known — made it all the more difficult to understand.

    To identify the virus, the C.D.C. test used three small genetic sequences to match up with portions of a virus’s genome extracted from a swab. A German-developed test that the W.H.O. was distributing to other countries used just two, potentially making it less precise.

    But soon after the F.D.A. cleared the C.D.C. to share its test kits with state health department labs, some discovered a problem. The third sequence, or “probe,” gave inconclusive results. While the C.D.C. explored the cause — contamination or a design issue — it told those state labs to stop testing.

    The startling setback stalled the C.D.C.’s efforts to track the virus when it mattered most. By mid-February, the nation was testing only about 100 samples per day, according to the C.D.C.’s website.

    Dr. Redfield played down the problem in task force meetings and conversations with Mr. Azar, assuring him it would be fixed quickly, several administration officials said.

    With capacity so limited, the C.D.C.’s criteria for who was tested remained extremely narrow for weeks to come: only people who had recently traveled to China or had been in contact with someone who had the virus.

    A string of critical errors.

    The lack of tests in the states also meant local public health officials could not use another essential epidemiological tool: surveillance testing. To see where the virus might be hiding, nasal swab samples from people screened for the common flu would also be checked for the coronavirus.

    The C.D.C. announced a plan on Feb. 14 to perform the screening in five high-risk cities: New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Seattle. An agency official said it could provide “an early warning signal to trigger a change in our response strategy.” But most of the cities could not carry it out.

    “Had we had done more testing from the very beginning and caught cases earlier,” said Dr. Nuzzo, of Johns Hopkins, “we would be in a far different place.”

    The consequences became clear by the end of February. For the first time, someone with no known exposure to the virus or history of travel tested positive, in the Seattle area, where the U.S.’s first case had been detected more than a month earlier. The virus had probably been spreading there and elsewhere for weeks, researchers later concluded. Without a more complete picture of who had been infected, public health workers could not do “contact tracing” — finding all those with whom any contagious people had interacted and then quarantining them to stop further transmission.

    The C.D.C. gave little thought to adopting the test being used by the W.H.O. The C.D.C.’s test was working in its own lab — still processing samples from states — which gave agency officials confidence. Dr. Anne Schuchat, the agency’s principal deputy director, would later say that the C.D.C. did not think “we needed somebody else’s test.”

    And the German-designed W.H.O. test had not been through the American regulatory approval process, which would take time.

    Throughout February, Dr. Redfield shuttled between Atlanta, where the C.D.C. is based, and Washington, holding multiple calls every day with Mr. Azar and participating in the coronavirus task force.

    Mr. Azar’s take-charge style contrasted with the more deliberative manner of Dr. Redfield, who lacked the kind of commanding television presence that impressed Mr. Trump. He was “a consensus person,” as one colleague described him, who sought to avoid conflict. He relied heavily on some of the C.D.C.’s career scientists, like Dr. Schuchat and Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the agency’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

    Under scrutiny from Congress, Dr. Redfield offered reassurances. Responding on Feb. 24 to a letter from 49 members of Congress about the need for testing in the states, he wrote, “CDC’s aggressive response enables us to identify potential cases early and make sure that they are properly handled.”

    Days later, his agency provided a workaround, telling state and local health department labs that they could finally begin testing. Rather than awaiting replacements, they should use their C.D.C. test kits and leave out the problematic third probe.

    Meanwhile, the agency’s epidemiologists were growing more concerned as the virus spread in South Korea and Italy. On Feb. 25, Dr. Messonnier gave a briefing with a much blunter warning than usual. “Disruption to everyday life might be severe,” she said.

    Mr. Trump, returning from a trip to India, was furious, according to senior administration officials. Later that day, Mr. Azar seemed to be tamping down the level of concern. All Dr. Messonnier had meant, he said at a news conference, was that people should “start thinking about, in their own lives, what that might involve.”

    “Might,” Mr. Azar repeated emphatically. “Might involve.”

    Barriers to Testing

    Dr. Stephen Hahn’s first day as F.D.A. commissioner came just six weeks before Mr. Azar declared a public health emergency on Jan. 31. A radiation oncologist and researcher who helped turn around MD Anderson in Houston, one of the nation’s leading cancer centers, Dr. Hahn had come to Washington to oversee a sprawling federal agency that regulates everything from lifesaving therapies to dog food.

    But overnight, his mission — to manage 15,000 employees in a culture defined by precision and caution — was upended. A pathogen that Mr. Trump would later call the “invisible enemy” was hurtling toward the United States. It would fall to the newly arrived Dr. Hahn to help build a huge national capacity for testing by academic and private labs.

    Instead, under his leadership, the F.D.A. became a significant roadblock, according to current and former officials as well as researchers and doctors at laboratories around the country.

    Private-sector tests were supposed to be the next tier after the C.D.C. fulfilled its obligation to jump-start screening at public labs. In other countries hit hard by the coronavirus, governments acted quickly to speed tests to their populations. In South Korea, for example, regulators in early February summoned executives from 20 medical manufacturers, easing rules as they demanded tests.

    But Dr. Hahn took a cautious approach. He was not proactive in reaching out to manufacturers, and instead deferred to his scientists, following the F.D.A.’s often cumbersome methods for approving medical screening.

    Even the nation’s public health labs were looking for the F.D.A.’s help. “We are now many weeks into the response with still no diagnostic or surveillance test available outside of C.D.C. for the vast majority of our member laboratories,” Scott Becker, chief executive of the Association of Public Health Laboratories, wrote to Mr. Hahn in late February. “We believe a more expeditious route is needed at this time.”

    Ironically, it was Mr. Azar’s emergency declaration that established the rules Dr. Hahn insisted on following. Designed to make it easier for drugmakers to pursue vaccines and other therapies during a crisis, such a declaration lets the F.D.A. speed approvals that could otherwise take a year or more.

    But the emergency announcement created a new barrier for hospitals and laboratories that wanted to create their own tests to diagnose the coronavirus. Usually, they faced minimal federal regulation. But once Mr. Azar took action, they were subject to an F.D.A. process called an “emergency use authorization.”

    Even though researchers around the country quickly began creating tests that could diagnose Covid-19, many said they were hindered by the F.D.A.’s approval process. The new tests sat unused at labs around the country.

    Stanford was one of them. Researchers at the world-renowned university had a working test by February, based on protocols published by the W.H.O. The organization had already delivered more than 250,000 of the German-designed tests to 70 laboratories around the world, and doctors at the Stanford lab wanted to be prepared for a pandemic.

    “Even if it didn’t come, it would be better to be ready than not to be ready,” said Dr. Benjamin Pinsky, the lab’s medical director.

    But in the face of what he called “relatively tight” rules at the F.D.A., Dr. Pinsky and his colleagues decided against even trying to win permission. The Stanford clinical lab would not begin testing coronavirus samples until early March, when Dr. Hahn finally relaxed the rules.

    Executives at bioMérieux, a French diagnostics company, had a similar experience. The company makes a countertop testing system, BioFire, that is routinely used to check for the flu and other respiratory illnesses in 1,700 hospitals around the country. It can provide results in about 45 minutes.

    “A lot of us said, you know, your typical E.U.A. is just much too demanding,” said Dr. Mark Miller, the company’s chief medical officer, referring to the emergency approval. “It’s going to take much too much time. And can’t you do something to shorten that?”

    Officials at the F.D.A. tried to be responsive, Dr. Miller said. But rather than throw out the rules, the agency only modified the regulatory requirements, still requiring weeks of discussions and negotiations.

    After conversations with the F.D.A. in mid-February, the company received emergency approval for its BioFire test on March 24. (The company also began talking to the F.D.A. in January about another type of test, but decided not to pursue it in the United States for now.) Dr. Miller said that while he was ultimately satisfied with the F.D.A.’s actions, the overall response by the government was too slow, especially when it came to logistical questions like getting enough testing supplies to those who needed them.

    “You’ve got other countries — and I’m sorry, unfortunately, the U.S. is one of those — where they’ve been slow, disorganized,” he said. “There are still not enough tests available there to test everybody who needs it.”

    In an emailed statement, Dr. Hahn maintained that his agency had moved as quickly as it safely could to ensure that tests would be accurate. “Since the early days of this pandemic,” he said, “the F.D.A.’s doors have always been and still remain open to test developers.”

    A Lack of Trust

    Alex Azar had sounded confident at the end of January. At a news conference in the hulking H.H.S. headquarters in Washington, he said he had the government’s response to the new coronavirus under control, pointing out high-ranking jobs he had held in the department during the 2003 SARS outbreak and other infectious threats.

    “I know this playbook well,” he told reporters.

    A Yale-trained lawyer who once served as the top attorney at the health department, Mr. Azar had spent a decade as a top executive at Eli Lilly, one of the world’s largest drug companies. But he caught Mr. Trump’s attention in part because of other credentials: After law school, Mr. Azar was a clerk for some of the nation’s most conservative judges, including Justice Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court. And for two years, he worked as Ken Starr’s deputy on the Clinton Whitewater investigation.

    As Mr. Trump’s second health secretary, confirmed at the beginning of 2018, Mr. Azar has been quick to compliment the president and focus on the issues he cares about: lowering drug prices and fighting opioid addiction. On Feb. 6 — even as the W.H.O. announced that there were more than 28,000 coronavirus cases around the globe — Mr. Azar was in the second row in the White House’s East Room, demonstrating his loyalty to the president as Mr. Trump claimed vindication from his impeachment acquittal the day before and lashed out at “evil” lawmakers and the F.B.I.’s “top scum.”

    As public attention on the virus threat intensified in January and February, Mr. Azar grew increasingly frustrated about the harsh spotlight on his department and the leaders of agencies who reported to him, according to people familiar with the response to the virus inside the agencies.

    Described as a prickly boss by some administration officials, Mr. Azar has had a longstanding feud with Seema Verma, the Medicare and Medicaid chief, who recently became a regular presence at Mr. Trump’s televised briefings on the pandemic. Mr. Azar did not include Dr. Hahn on the virus task force he led, though some of the F.D.A. commissioner’s aides participated in H.H.S. meetings on the subject.

    And tensions grew between the secretary and Dr. Redfield as the testing issue persisted. Mr. Azar and Dr. Redfield have been on the phone as often as a half-dozen times a day. But throughout February, as the C.D.C. test faltered, Mr. Azar became convinced that Dr. Redfield’s agency was providing him with inaccurate information about testing that the secretary repeated publicly, according to several administration officials.

    In one instance, Mr. Azar appeared on Sunday morning news programs and said that more than 3,600 people had been tested for the virus. In fact, the real number was much smaller because many patients were tested multiple times, an error the C.D.C. had to correct in congressional testimony that week. One health department official said Mr. Azar was repeatedly assured that the C.D.C.’s test would be widely available within a week or 10 days, only to be given the same promise a week later.

    Asked about criticism of his agency’s response to the pandemic, Dr. Redfield said: “I’m personally not focused on whether they’re pointing fingers here or there. We’re focused on doing all we can to get through this outbreak as quickly as possible and keep America safe.”

    For all Mr. Azar’s complaints, however, he continued to defer to the scientists at the two agencies, according to several administration officials. Mr. Azar’s allies said he was told by Dr. Redfield and Dr. Fauci that the C.D.C. had the resources it needed, that there was no reason to believe the virus was spreading through the country from person to person and that it was important to test only people who met certain criteria.

    But even in the face of a crescendo of complaints from doctors and health care researchers around the country, Mr. Azar failed to push those under him to do the one thing that could have helped: broader testing.

    In a statement, Caitlin Oakley, Mr. Azar’s spokeswoman, said that the secretary had “empowered and followed the guidance of world-renowned U.S. scientists” on the testing issue. “Any insinuation that Secretary Azar did not respond with needed urgency to the response or testing efforts,” she said, “are just plain wrong and disproven by the facts.”

    By Feb. 26, Dr. Fauci was concerned that the stalled testing had become an urgent issue that needed to be addressed. He called Brian Harrison, Mr. Azar’s chief of staff, and asked him to gather the group of officials overseeing screening efforts.

    Around noon on Feb. 27, Dr. Hahn, Dr. Redfield and top aides from the F.D.A. and H.H.S. dialed in to a conference call. Mr. Harrison began with an ultimatum: No one leaves until we resolve the lag in testing. We don’t have answers and we need them, one senior administration official recalled him saying. Get it done.

    By the end of the day, the group agreed that the F.D.A. should loosen regulations so that hospitals and independent labs could move forward quickly with their own tests.

    But the evening before, Mr. Azar had been effectively removed as the leader of the task force when Mr. Trump abruptly put Mr. Pence in charge, a decision so last-minute that even the top health officials in the White House learned of it while watching the announcement.

    Previous presidents have moved quickly to confront disease threats from inside the White House by installing a “czar” to manage the effort.

    During an outbreak of the Ebola virus in 2014, President Barack Obama tapped Ron Klain, his vice president’s former chief of staff, to direct the response from the West Wing. Mr. Obama later created an office of global health security inside the National Security Council to coordinate future crises.

    “If you look historically in the United States when it is challenged with something like this — whether it’s H.I.V. crises, whether it’s pandemic, whether it’s whatever — man, they pull out all the stops across the system and they make it work,” said Dr. Aylward, the W.H.O. epidemiologist.

    But faced with the coronavirus, Mr. Trump chose not to have the White House lead the planning until nearly two months after it began. Mr. Obama’s global health office had been disbanded a year earlier. And until Mr. Pence took charge, the task force lacked a single White House official with the power to compel action.

    Since then, testing has ramped up quickly, with nearly 100 labs at hospitals and elsewhere performing it. On Friday, the health care giant Abbott said it had received emergency approval for a portable test that could detect the virus in five minutes.

    The president boasted on Tuesday that the United States had “created a new system that now we are doing unbelievably big numbers” of tests for the virus. The U.S., he said, had done more testing for the coronavirus in the last eight days than South Korea had done in eight weeks.

    Yet hospitals and clinics across the country still must deny tests to those with milder symptoms, trying to save them for the most serious cases, and they often wait a week for results. In tacit acknowledgment of the shortage, Mr. Trump asked South Korea’s president on Monday to send as many test kits as possible from the 100,000 produced there daily, more than the country needs.

    Public health experts reacted positively to the increased capacity. But having the ability to diagnose the disease three months after it was first disclosed by China does little to address why the United States was unable to do so sooner, when it might have helped reduce the toll of the pandemic.

    “Testing is the crack that split apart the rest of the response, when it should have tied everything together,” said Dr. Nahid Bhadelia, ​the medical director of the Special Pathogens Unit at Boston University School of Medicine.

    “It seeps into every other aspect of our response, touches all of us,” she said. “The delay of the testing has impacted the response across the board.”

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    The US now has more confirmed coronavirus cases than anywhere else in the world
    Here’s how we got here — and what to do next.

    https://www.vox.com/2020/3/26/21194153/us-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-world

    March 26 marked an unhappy milestone for the United States: We’re now No. 1 in confirmed coronavirus cases.

    China, where the novel coronavirus originated, was the previous leader. The country reported 81,782 cases as of Thursday near 6 pm on the coronavirus case counter by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University. Until now, second place was held by Italy, which has reported 80,589 cases.

    Now the US leapfrogged them both with 82,404 cases. And it’s only going to get worse from here.

    In late February, there were 80,000 cases in China and nascent outbreaks in Japan, South Korea, Iran, and Italy. But things in the US were still looking pretty good — at least, on the surface. The US on February 20 reported only 15 cases, all travel-related.

    But once officials started testing in earnest for Covid-19, the cases started coming — and coming and coming. On March 1, there were 75. On March 7, 435. On March 14, 2,770. On March 21, 24,192. Now it’s at 82,404 — and those numbers are only going to go up in the coming weeks.

    How did things go so wrong so fast? Much of the answer is that when we were reporting very few cases, things were already getting bad under the radar. A disastrously mismanaged February, during which government officials, much of the media, and even some experts assured Americans there was nothing to fear, let the virus spread until it was too big to ignore. By that time, it was also too big to stop without heavy-handed social distancing measures — and their attendant catastrophic economic costs.

    Much of the blame lies with the president, who stripped public health agencies of the staffing, resources, and authority they needed to function, and then addressed the crisis in his usual fashion: with misinformation and bluster. It’s worked well for him against many of the scandals of his administration, but the virus was unimpressed.

    But the failure wasn’t just the president’s. As Zeynep Tufekci, who has been urging us to do more for months, put it, “a soothing message got widespread traction, not just with Donald Trump and his audience, but among traditional media in the United States, which exhorted us to worry about the flu instead, and warned us against overreaction.” Even with the government sleeping on the job, there were signs from other countries that a catastrophe was arriving on our shores. But very few people said it out loud, and the ones who did were assured they were overreacting. Most people took public health experts’ reassurances at face value and assumed the low numbers of reported cases reflected reality.

    Meanwhile, the virus spread.

    Now, the world’s most powerful country has one of the world’s worst disasters on its hands. The question now is: Is it too late to turn things around?

    The most confirmed cases in the world: What it means and what it doesn’t

    The US has more confirmed cases than anywhere else in the world. It’s a sign that our coronavirus situation is very grave indeed. However, it doesn’t necessarily mean that we have the world’s worst coronavirus outbreak.

    For one thing, while the US is still undertesting (people with milder cases are typically told to stay home and not be tested), other countries are probably undertesting by even more. Iran, by some estimates, may have millions of coronavirus cases, most of which the government has not reported.

    Other hotspots that worry global development researchers include India and Indonesia — both populous countries with weak health systems and high poverty that are likely underreporting their coronavirus outbreaks by a significant margin. One study found that Indonesia is probably reporting around 10 percent of its symptomatic cases, and India between 10 percent and 30 percent.

    Another important consideration is population. The US is the third-most populous country in the world. That means that, while our outbreaks are not yet worse per capita than many of the outbreaks in Europe, the top-line numbers look worse. Italy, for example, has reported one case for every 750 citizens. The US has reported one for every 4,000 (though 1 in every 400 New York City residents). Per capita numbers may better reflect how overwhelmed a country’s health system is and how badly it is impacted by the virus.

    But overall numbers matter, too. Tens of thousands of people suffering and many of them dying isn’t less tragic if it happens in a large country where they’re a smaller share of the population.

    So, while the US situation is very bad news, it’s the combination of a high population, a disastrous outbreak, and high testing capacity (in the last few days, we’ve finally — if belatedly — started testing on a large scale) that propelled America into the No. 1 slot. We should take our situation seriously.

    But it’s a misinterpretation to claim that America has the worst outbreak in the world just because we have the most reported cases in the world. (To be clear, we could still end up with the worst outbreak in the world — but we’re not there yet.) When you test more, you’ll get more cases — but testing more is a good thing, and the United States, despite the desperate situation, is in a much better position to turn things around because of all the tests that we have run in the last week.

    How coronavirus got a foothold in America

    In late January, China locked down the country as hospitals and intensive care units (ICUs) in Wuhan were overwhelmed by coronavirus patients. In response, the United States banned foreign nationals who had recently traveled to China. That “resulted in a significant delay in the number of people coming in with infection,” Dr. Tom Frieden, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), has said. “That bought time in the US to better prepare.”

    Then, we squandered it. “Every other step of the government response was badly fumbled,” Frieden concluded.

    Budget cuts and mismanagement by the Trump administration had gutted many of the agencies that were meant to address the crisis. The CDC started work on a test that would identify the novel coronavirus, but shipped the test out to labs with incorrect reagents, meaning that the test didn’t work. Guidance on when there’d be a new test was slow in coming.

    Independent researchers at Seattle’s Flu Study, a research project studying flu in the Seattle region, sought permission to run their own test. They were denied it. “We felt like we were sitting, waiting for the pandemic to emerge,” said Dr. Helen Chu, who led the project. “We could help. We couldn’t do anything.” Labs around the country sought the Food and Drug Administration’s approval for their own test and met delays.

    Strict rules about who could be tested for the virus were put into place. To be tested, someone had to have recently traveled from China or have been exposed to someone who tested positive. In hindsight, it’s easy to spot the Catch-22. If someone got coronavirus while traveling in South Korea, Iran, Italy, or any of the growing number of countries experiencing outbreaks, they could not be tested. If they infected anyone, those people couldn’t be tested either. Because we’d banned travel from China and would only test travelers from China (or those who had been exposed to a person who’d tested positive), we had rendered it impossible to notice whether the virus was spreading in America.

    It was. Virologist Trevor Bradford estimates by comparing patient genomes that the coronavirus started spreading in Washington State in mid-January. By the end of February, it had been introduced to a nursing home, and patients started rapidly dying.

    In the meantime, even people who should have known better took the CDC’s low case numbers at face value. There’s no community spread in the United States, public health officials around the country reassured us.

    The risk of coronavirus in the US is “just minuscule,” National Institutes of Health official Anthony Fauci, now one of the most trusted authorities leading the response, said on February 17. “We have more kids dying of flu this year at this time than in the last decade or more,” he added.

    We were told that risk in our communities “remains low.” Media outlets wrote articles about how we were at greater risk from the flu — a serious mistake in hindsight, to be sure, but an accurate representation of what they were hearing from America’s top public health authorities.

    Bedford estimates that there were more than 7,000 cases in the US near the end of February (as opposed to 68 confirmed cases), when a lab in California first detected a community-acquired coronavirus case. If we’d known about them, we could have taken the extensive but not economy-shattering measures that countries like South Korea and Taiwan have taken to stop the virus — testing extensively, aggressively tracing contacts of everyone who tests positive, increasing production of masks and making them widely available.

    Instead, we proceeded as if we were safe, while the least invasive ways to beat back the virus steadily slipped out of our reach.

    Always a bit behind the curve

    By March, it was obvious that there was community transmission in multiple cities across America. But our response was still slow. The FDA only slowly authorized more labs to conduct testing, and revisions to make their guidelines stricter forced some labs to destroy tests they’d already collected. US testing increased, but the prevalence of the virus was increasing, too.

    States, counties, and cities had to decide one by one whether to shut their schools, declare a state of emergency, urge social distancing measures, or go into lockdowns. They did so haphazardly, with insufficient data because there was still limited testing in their communities. Italy closed all its schools on March 4 and locked down the country when they had fewer than 10,000 cases; the US surpassed the 10,000 case mark (March 19) and the 20,000 case mark (March 21) and the 50,000 case mark (March 24) without any national order to reduce nonessential activities.

    Some local and state officials — like San Francisco Mayor London Breed and Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine — acquitted themselves well, taking strong early measures to reduce the spread of the virus. Some didn’t, like Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who argued that we shouldn’t take economically damaging measures because if asked “are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?” grandparents around the nation would agree to risk letting the virus spread.

    Lockdowns are economically devastating, but the death of thousands of Americans in overwhelmed hospitals and the decimation of our health care workforce will not be any less economically devastating for the states that take that route.

    In New York, which discovered as they ramped up testing that local cases were terrifyingly out of control, Mayor Bill de Blasio and Gov. Andrew Cuomo sparred over whether the city would have a shelter-in-place order like the one implemented earlier in the California Bay Area. Epidemiologists urged us to employ social distancing, but disorganization, unclear communication from political leaders, and ongoing lack of testing likely reduced compliance rates.

    That said, it would be wrong to say that the US hasn’t taken strong measures to stop the virus. School closures were ordered. They were extended to restaurants and bars. California, home to 40 million people and one-fifth of the country’s GDP, ordered its population to stay at home. Nineteen other states have followed. When all the measures go into effect, more than half the country will have been ordered to stay at home (and similar measures may go into effect in more states as the situation worsens).

    But we took these steps belatedly — again, in part because of lack of testing capacity. That meant each measure wasn’t sufficient on its own, and we had to keep escalating. It is still not clear we’ve done enough for desperate situations like New York, New Orleans, and Atlanta, which are already running out of ICU beds.

    Our ugly start put us at an enormous disadvantage for the next phase of the coronavirus fight, and we spent most of March on the defensive while case numbers grew and grew.

    So, how does this end?

    When every day the news gets worse, it’s easy to start to despair — or to start thinking we should give up, write off 3 percent of our population, and try to, as Bill Gates condemned the idea, “ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner” as we go back to work.

    We should not do that.

    But we shouldn’t resign ourselves to another year and a half in lockdown, either — though it’s true that it will be a long time before the country or the world returns to normal. There are lots of promising options available, and pursuing some combination of them will likely allow us to ease up on some of the costliest current restrictions.

    “Suppression will minimally require a combination of social distancing of the entire population, home isolation of cases and household quarantine of their family members,” an influential report from the Imperial College London argued, and then more than a year of maintaining “this type of intensive intervention package — or something equivalently effective at reducing transmission.” Other researchers have criticized specific assumptions underlying that model, but there’s wider agreement on the general premise that we need to find an “intervention package” that keeps transmission low.

    But the details of that intensive intervention package are up to us, and some possibilities could be improvements over the current lockdowns. Countries are exploring a wide range of options for reducing transmission with minimal human costs.

    One option, based on South Korea’s success at managing the virus, is called “test and trace.” The idea is to get much much better at testing so that we can identify sick people sooner, isolate them and all of their contacts, and let other people go about their daily lives.

    That’s the approach favored by the WHO, based on what’s worked best so far in the countries that have controlled their outbreaks. “To suppress and control the epidemic, countries must isolate, test, treat, and trace,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus argued last week.

    “Everyone staying home is just a very blunt measure. That’s what you say when you’ve got really nothing else,” Emily Gurley of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health told NPR. “Being able to test folks is really the linchpin in getting beyond what we’re doing now.”

    Accomplishing this will require making testing much more widespread. Tactics like test pooling, which Nebraska has started using and which other states may copy, can be employed to let us test more patients with the same number of tests. Developing tests with faster turnaround time will mean that sick people get answers within an hour instead of waiting for weeks. We’re a long way away from this, but that doesn’t mean that it couldn’t happen fast with enough focused attention and funding.

    Another option, serological tests, will let us check who has already recovered from the virus, so some people will know they’ve developed immunity and can return to normal. The UK is aggressively exploring this option and says they plan to make millions of serological tests available within “days rather than weeks or months,” says Sharon Peacock, the director of the national infection service at Public Health England.

    Lockdowns affect lots of people who could be at work. Once we have better testing, we can lock down only people who’ve been exposed for the period of time that they’re at risk of spreading the virus (most countries require 14 days of self-quarantine).

    Better treatments, too, might change the dynamic of our fight against the coronavirus. Several promising drugs are undergoing trials right now, including a multi-nation, thousands-of-patients, multi-drug randomized trial organized by the WHO called SOLIDARITY. The president has controversially highlighted chloroquine, an antimalarial drug, but others showing promising early results include Japanese flu drug favipiravir, HIV medication remdesivir, and others. If a successful treatment that makes the illness much less dangerous is discovered, we could return sooner to normal life.

    To be clear, it’s a mistake to hype any one of these drugs as a cure-all (and please, don’t hoard them at home). And the president certainly hasn’t helped by touting them as miracle cures despite mixed early evidence.

    But it’s not unlikely that our treatment options will improve dramatically as we learn more. “We need more data at every level,” UCSF biologist Nevan Krogan, who is researching drug treatments for the disease, said in March.

    Finally, our manufacturing can scale up production of personal protective equipment and ventilators, and we can rapidly train more people to care for coronavirus patients, increasing our hospital capacity and our ability to cope with the virus.

    “Let’s figure out testing, let’s get enough PPE [personal protective equipment] for first responders,” Tara Smith, who studies infectious disease at Kent State University, told my colleague Brian Resnick. “Let’s get enough swabs. Let’s buy more ventilators, build more ventilators — to have this second chance at not messing things up.”

    While all that’s happening, researchers like Stephen Kissler of Harvard have proposed that we might alternate periods of social distancing, trying to keep society functioning and our mental health acceptable while not overloading our hospitals. “Intermittent social distancing — triggered by trends in disease surveillance — may allow interventions to be relaxed temporarily in relative short time windows, but measures will need to be reintroduced if or when case numbers rebound,” the Imperial College London report concluded.

    So while life as normal might be a long way off, we shouldn’t expect to be sitting in lockdown for the next year. This is a painful, temporary, weeks-long (maybe months-long) step while we progress as fast as possible on all of those fronts.

    There are now two months of coronavirus response behind us. We spent one of them unaware that we were under attack, and the second trying to figure out how to respond. By the time we had a good picture of the problem in front of us, we had a problem on an unprecedented scale.

    But it’s not all hopeless. If the world is at war with the coronavirus, it’s encouraging to remember that the US has historically been incompetent in the early stages of a global war — but unstoppable once we set ourselves to the task at hand. This isn’t over — it is, in fact, barely getting started — and it’s up to all of us to decide how it ends.

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    Look. I found an article on Venezuela, in English, that says something about it that doesn’t come from CIA talking points.

    Venezuela’s Coronavirus Response Might Surprise You

    https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/14824

    Within a few hours of being launched, over 800 Venezuelans in the U.S. registered for an emergency flight from Miami to Caracas through a website run by the Venezuelan government. This flight, offered at no cost, was proposed by President Nicolás Maduro when he learned that 200 Venezuelans were stuck in the United States following his government’s decision to stop commercial flights as a preventative coronavirus measure. The promise of one flight expanded to two or more flights, as it became clear that many Venezuelans in the U.S. wanted to go back to Venezuela, yet the situation remains unresolved due to the U.S. ban on flights to and from the country.

    Those who rely solely on the mainstream media might wonder who in their right mind would want to leave the United States for Venezuela. Time, The Washington Post, The Hill and the Miami Herald, among others, published opinions in the past week describing Venezuela as a chaotic nightmare. These media outlets painted a picture of a coronavirus disaster, of government incompetence and of a nation teetering on the brink of collapse. The reality of Venezuela’s coronavirus response is not covered by the mainstream media at all.

    Furthermore, what each of these articles shortchanges is the damage caused by the Trump administration’s sanctions, which devastated the economy and healthcare system long before the coronavirus pandemic. These sanctions have impoverished millions of Venezuelans and negatively impact vital infrastructure, such as electricity generation. Venezuela is impeded from importing spare parts for its power plants and the resulting blackouts interrupt water services that rely on electric pumps. These, along with dozens of other implications from the hybrid war on Venezuela, have caused a decline in health indicators across the board, leading to 100,000 deaths as a consequence of the sanctions.

    Regarding coronavirus specifically, the sanctions raise the costs of testing kits and medical supplies, and ban Venezuela’s government from purchasing medical equipment from the U.S. (and from many European countries). These obstacles would seemingly place Venezuela on the path to a worst-case scenario, similar to Iran (also battered by sanctions) or Italy (battered by austerity and neoliberalism). In contrast to those two countries, Venezuela took decisive steps early on to face the pandemic.

    As a result of these steps and other factors, Venezuela is currently in its best-case scenario. As of this writing, 11 days after the first confirmed case of coronavirus, the country has 86 infected people, with 0 deaths. Its neighbors have not fared as well: Brazil has 1,924 cases with 34 deaths; Ecuador 981 and 18; Chile 746 and 2; Peru 395 and 5; Mexico 367 and 4; Colombia 306 and 3. (With the exception of Mexico, those governments have all actively participated and contributed to the U.S.-led regime change efforts in Venezuela.) Why is Venezuela doing so much better than others in the region?

    Skeptics will claim that the Maduro government is hiding figures and deaths, that there’s not enough testing, not enough medicine, not enough talent to adequately deal with a pandemic. But here are the facts:

    First, international solidarity has played a priceless role in enabling the government to rise to the challenge. China sent coronavirus diagnostic kits that will allow 320,000 Venezuelans to be tested, in addition to a team of experts and tons of supplies. Cuba sent 130 doctors and 10,000 doses of interferon alfa-2b, a drug with an established record of helping COVID-19 patients recover. Russia has sent the first of several shipments of medical equipment and kits. These three countries, routinely characterized by the U.S. foreign policy establishment as evil, offer solidarity and material support. The United States offers more sanctions and the IMF, widely known to be under U.S. control, denied a Venezuelan request for $5 billion in emergency funding that even the European Union supports.

    Second, the government quickly carried out a plan to contain the spread of the disease. On March 12, a day before the first confirmed cases, President Maduro decreed a health emergency, prohibited crowds from gathering, and cancelled flights from Europe and Colombia. On March 13, Day 1, two Venezuelans tested positive; the government cancelled classes, began requiring facemasks on subways and on the border, closed theaters, bars and nightclubs, and limited restaurants to take-out or delivery. It bears repeating that this was on Day 1 of having a confirmed case; many U.S. states have yet to take these steps. By Day 4, a national quarantine was put into effect (equivalent to shelter-in-place orders) and an online portal called the Homeland System (Sistema Patria) was repurposed to survey potential COVID-19 cases. By Day 8, 42 people were infected and approximately 90% of the population was heeding the quarantine. By Day 11, over 12.2 million people had filled out the survey, over 20,000 people who reported being sick were visited in their homes by medical professionals and 145 people were referred for coronavirus testing. The government estimates that without these measures, Venezuela would have 3,000 infected people and a high number of deaths.

    Third, the Venezuelan people were positioned to handle a crisis. Over the past 7 years, Venezuela has lived through the death of wildly popular leader, violent right-wing protests, an economic war characterized by shortages and hyperinflation, sanctions that have destroyed the economy, an ongoing coup, attempted military insurrections, attacks on public utilities, blackouts, mass migration and threats of U.S. military action. The coronavirus is a different sort of challenge, but previous crises have instilled a resiliency among the Venezuelan people and strengthened solidarity within communities. There is no panic on the streets; instead, people are calm and following health protocols.

    Fourth, mass organizing and prioritizing people above all else. Communes and organized communities have taken the lead, producing facemasks, keeping the CLAP food supply system running (this monthly food package reaches 7 million families), facilitating house-by-house visits of doctors and encouraging the use of facemasks in public. Over 12,000 medical school students in their last or second-to-last year of study applied to be trained for house visits. For its part, the Maduro administration suspended rent payments, instituted a nationwide firing freeze, gave bonuses to workers, prohibited telecoms from cutting off people’s phones or internet, reached an agreement with hotel chains to provide 4,000 beds in case the crisis escalates, and pledged to pay the salaries of employees of small and medium businesses. Amid a public health crisis – compounded by an economic crisis and sanctions – Venezuela’s response has been to guarantee food, provide free healthcare and widespread testing, and alleviate further economic pressure on the working class.

    The U.S. government has not responded to the Maduro administration’s request to make an exception for Conviasa Airlines, the national airline under sanctions, to fly the Venezuelans stranded in the United States back to Caracas. Given everything happening in the United States, where COVID-19 treatment can cost nearly $35,000 and the government is weighing the option of prioritizing the economy over the lives of people, perhaps these Venezuelans waiting to go home understand that their chances of surviving the coronavirus – both physically and economically – are much better in a country that values health over profits.

    Leonardo Flores is Latin American policy expert and campaigner with CODEPINK.

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    In reply to: virus math

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    Analysis of outcomes in 50k chinese people with covid-19

    Posted by dan on March 20, 2020, 9:03 pm

    Tweet from @Menon_Cambridge: Rigorous analysis of~50k Wuhan cases. Case fatality for COVID-19 =1.4% in symptomatic patients (below past estimates). OR for death 0.6 in those <30; and 5.1 in those >59 y. Risk of symptomatic infection increased ~4% per year between 30 & 60 years.

    link:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0822-7.epdf

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    In reply to: the testing fiasco

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    How the Coronavirus Became an American Catastrophe
    The death and economic damage sweeping the United States could have been avoided—if only we had started testing for the virus sooner.

    MARCH 21, 2020

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/how-many-americans-are-sick-lost-february/608521/

    How many people are sick with the coronavirus in the United States, and when did they get sick?
    These are crucial questions to answer, but they have never been answered well. Archived data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention—illustrated in the chart below—reveal that the government dramatically misunderstood what was happening in America as the outbreak began.
    On the last day of February, the CDC reported that 15 Americans had tested positive for COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.

    In the past week, as the country’s testing capacity has increased, officials have discovered more cases. Today, more than 17,000 people have tested positive.

    That may sound like a lot. But experts believe that the United States still isn’t testing enough people to detect the outbreak’s true spread. The virologist Trevor Bedford has found evidence that the coronavirus began spreading in the United States in January. It has already infected approximately 87,000 Americans, he says.

    The truth is: We don’t know how many Americans are infected with the coronavirus.
    The United States is a country soon to be overrun with sick people. As the positive tests for the new coronavirus have ticked upward, so, inevitably, will the deaths.

    When Wuhan began burning with infections in December, the U.S. government took only illogical, inadequate actions to stop the virus’s spread: It banned foreigners from entering from China, but inconsistently monitored Americans returning from the country. The president laughed off the virus and the Democrats’ response to it, calling it their “new hoax,” which immediately polarized the citizenry’s response to precautionary public-health information. When the sparks of this conflagration hit, Seattle was aflame before anyone at the CDC had started to reach for water.

    What’s happening here, in this country, was avoidable. Nearly every flaw in America’s response to the virus has one source: America did not test enough people for COVID-19.

    Testing should have told doctors how to triage patients and hospitals when to prepare their wards. It should have allowed governors to gauge the severity of a local outbreak and informed federal officials as they allocated scarce masks and ventilators. Testing should have answered the all-important question in any pandemic: How many people are sick right now? Had the nation known that, the systems that were put into place over years of pandemic planning could have powered on, protecting millions of Americans and containing the illness.

    Instead, the CDC botched its own test development. It sent testing kits to state public-health labs with a nonfunctioning ingredient. And by then, the virus was already spreading. It was already spreading as the Food and Drug Administration held up independent labs that had made their own tests. It was spreading as samples piled up, as the world’s top virology researchers pleaded to be permitted to test them and as the FDA denied their requests.

    The virus was spreading as a delay in test kits became a national shortage. When community transmission in the United States was discovered, and states and hospitals lacked the supplies to diagnose even a dangerously ill patient, it was spreading. When a week passed, and the market began to collapse, and the country had barely tested 1,000 people, it was still spreading. Even as kits started to trickle out, the CDC and many state officials clung to restrictive rules that allowed only patients who had traveled internationally or been exposed to a known case to be tested, even though the coronavirus was already clearly spreading in American offices, day cares, and movie theaters. Doctors and nurses with all the symptoms of COVID-19 were denied tests because they could not prove exposure. The virus was still spreading.

    Every six days that the country did not test, every six days that it did not act, the number of infected Americans doubled.

    “The way no one expected how this response would fail in the U.S. is the testing,” Nahid Bhadelia, the medical director of the Special Pathogen Unit at Boston University School of Medicine, told us. She is an expert in infectious diseases and pandemics, and oversees the medical-response program at one of the few labs in the country permitted to handle the pathogens that cause Ebola, anthrax, and the bubonic plague.

    “If you don’t know where the disease is early in the epidemic, you have no hope of containing it,” Bhadelia said. “Even now, [testing is] that Achilles’ heel; it’s the crack that is making its way throughout our entire response.”

    Without testing, there was only one way to know the severity of the outbreak: counting the dead. On February 29, Washington State confirmed that a man who had been at the Life Care Center outside Seattle had died, the first American death officially attributed to the virus. According to a now-archived version of the CDC’s website, the United States had, by then, tested 472 total people.

    The death came at the end of a month that was America’s last chance at containing COVID-19. But it was too late. February had been lost.

    On the last day of January, Trevor Bedford, a scientist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, in Seattle, hit Publish on a 484-word blog post that should have shaken the nation.

    Bedford is one of the country’s experts on the evolution and infectiousness of viruses. Virus genomes are like tree rings: They provide clues to where a virus came from and how many times it’s been passed from person to person. With the outbreak raging in Wuhan, Bedford had been studying the genetic sequences of the new coronavirus that Chinese researchers had posted. By January 11, six were in the record, which allowed him to reconstruct the relationships between the individual strains. Though the World Health Organization insisted that this new coronavirus had “limited human-to-human transmission,” the genomes told Bedford otherwise. Whatever this virus was, he suspected it could spread easily among strangers, like the common cold or the flu.

    Six days later, when a pair of travelers in Thailand came down with a similar illness, and researchers published the genome of the virus that had infected them, Bedford’s worst fears were confirmed. An epidemic had already begun. The new coronavirus had slipped the cordon in Wuhan, and was out in the world.

    “As this became clear to me, I spent the week of Jan 20 alerting every public health official I know,” Bedford wrote that month. On January 23, the Chinese government, which had spent weeks trying to cover up the virus, swung into action. It locked down the city of Wuhan and by mid-February had restricted the movement of 700 million people. On January 24, the CDC announced it had developed a test for the disease. The FDA wouldn’t approve it for another week and a half.

    This was the moment that epidemiologists had spent years dreading and anticipating. Almost every city and state in America had a pandemic-preparedness plan, reams of paper ready to put into action.

    King County, in which Seattle and Kirkland sit, had a plan, of course. The last revision, dated October 2013, forecast the consequences of a pandemic flu in now-eerie detail. The country, they predicted, would be faced with deaths that could range into the millions. The pandemic “has the potential to suddenly cause illness in a very large number of people, who could easily overwhelm the healthcare system throughout the nation.” No vaccines would be available at first. Community services could break down. Everything could become disrupted “for several weeks, if not months.” So many of the steps that then seemed unthinkable to regular people—closing schools for months, social distancing, curfews, and more—were not only contemplated but gamed out.

    Except for one thing. The plan took as a given that a functional testing apparatus would catch diseases on the way in, or at least before the fire started raging. Under its “Planning Assumptions” section, the second bullet point read, “There will be a need for heightened global, national and local surveillance.” Surveillance is public-health jargon for testing and the system that surrounds it. The planners knew there would be a need; they barely considered that it would not be met.

    “A heightened local surveillance system … serves as an early warning system for potential pandemics and a critical component of pandemic response plans,” they wrote in another section of the report. “Local surveillance during a pandemic outbreak provides important information regarding the severity of disease, characteristics of the affected population, and impacts on the healthcare system.”

    For every contingency that was considered, every difficulty and problem was assumed to be downstream of the high-quality information that would flow from the testing system. Without data about American cases in hand, how to handle the virus would become a matter of guesswork, not judgment.

    In late January, as Bedford began to warn public-health officials, there remained, according to the president, nothing to worry about. “We have it totally under control,” President Donald Trump said at Davos. “It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

    On or about January 15, someone infected by the coronavirus arrived in the Seattle area, Bedford’s research would later show. The virus began to silently spread in the region. It would not be detected for another six weeks.

    If there is one thing about the novel coronavirus that you must understand, it’s that it is a firecracker with a long fuse. Here is what the explosion looks like: Every six days, the number of people infected by the disease doubles, according to estimates from Bedford and other epidemiologists. At the start of February, Bedford now believes, the United States had something like 430 infections; if American interventions have done nothing to slow the disease’s spread, then his simple calculations show that more than 120,000 people could be infected by this weekend. Because of the great uncertainty, it’s probably most appropriate to give Bedford’s range: About 60,000 to 245,000 people are now infected with COVID-19 in the United States.

    An invisible fuse sets off this burst of disease. If someone is infected with the coronavirus on Monday, she may start being contagious and infecting other people by Wednesday. But she may not start showing symptoms until Friday—meaning that she was spreading the virus before she even knew she had it. And in some cases, infected people take 14 days to start showing symptoms.

    The onset of symptoms starts another awful clock. Many people will recover in a few weeks. But if someone’s case is severe, he may not recover for a month. And even if someone’s case is fatal, she may still survive for three weeks. This means that, first, cases discovered now may not become deaths for weeks; second, some people who will die in early April may only start showing symptoms today.

    Mitigation efforts must burn through the same fuse. Even the decision to lock down the Bay Area, the country’s richest region, will not relieve pressure on the medical system for weeks.

    Both of these factors mean that time is of the essence. This virus hides effectively and doubles quickly, but it kills slowly and painfully, and it kills most effectively when medical care isn’t available. This makes the coronavirus a particular disaster for the American hospital system, which after decades of streamlining has little spare capacity.

    If the coronavirus was in the United States, it had to be found early, before too many explosions could go off.

    Helen Y. Chu, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Washington, thought she had a way to detect COVID-19’s arrival. She directed a monitoring program called the Seattle Flu Study, which studied the spread of the seasonal flu and collected samples from sick people on an ongoing basis. What if some of those patients didn’t have the flu at all, but COVID-19? In January, she and her colleagues began asking federal and state officials for permission to repurpose specimens to test for this other, similar respiratory disease, according to The New York Times. They turned her down then—and they kept rejecting her requests as the weeks wore on. There were legitimate privacy concerns, and government officials were not ready to authorize Chu to look.

    On the last day of January, roughly 380 people were already infected with the coronavirus, most of them in the Seattle area, according to Bedford’s estimate. (Bedford is also part of the Seattle Flu Study.)

    But then the CDC hit a disastrous roadblock, as it began to send test kits to public-health labs across the country. Two of the test’s reagents were fine, in most cases, but a third chemical initially deemed necessary for the test simply did not work. For the time being, every test for COVID-19 would have to be conducted by the CDC.

    As the CDC struggled to find a solution, other laboratories tried to bring their own tests online. They found themselves hamstrung by the FDA, which, though it repeatedly loosened the rules, could not move as fast as the coronavirus.

    Alex Greninger, the assistant director of the clinical virology laboratory at the University of Washington, wanted to run a test of the lab’s own design. His lab would end up being one of the fastest to set up testing, and become the most important early source of information about the growth of the outbreak. But initially he, too, found himself caught up in the bureaucratic gears. On February 14, he sent a frustrated email to other clinical laboratories. The obstacles to setting up a test were unbelievable, he wrote: The FDA was asking him to show test results for more specimens than there were confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States—and the FDA wasn’t even making samples from those cases available to him. (The FDA did not immediately respond to The Atlantic’s request for comment.)

    No one at the federal level was moving fast enough to actually deal with the looming disaster. “The most pernicious effect of the current regulatory environment is that it kneecaps our ability for preparedness should a true emergency emerge,” Greninger wrote to other laboratory directors. “Why bother getting ready as a clinical lab if you think that you won’t ever be allowed to do anything until May or June?” Even after his lab got FDA approval, another two to three weeks would pass before it could actually test a large number of samples. In coronavirus time, three weeks is about how long it takes for 100 cases to become more than 1,000. “We’ve been exceptionally fortunate to have so few positive cases,” he wrote. “Should that change in the coming weeks, this month will have been the time when we could have expanded our capacity for testing by including clinical labs.”

    But the entire American testing effort, which would provide the crucial surveillance capability to understand any incipient outbreak, had stalled. The days ticked by; the virus spread. American public-health labs—which generally have far more capacity than the CDC—had completed only 16 tests, maybe a handful of people, by mid-February. All the way to February 26, only 102 specimens, or perhaps 50 people, had been tested by those labs. Overall, the CDC had tested fewer than 500 people. If the U.S. had a small number of cases, it was only because no one was looking for them. “We just twiddled our thumbs as the coronavirus waltzed in,” William Hanage, a Harvard epidemiologist, wrote in The Washington Post.

    Perhaps because of the wildly constrained supply of tests, the criteria to get one were strict. You basically had to go to Wuhan, lick someone, and then develop pneumonia. No one from the federal government even tried to look for community transmission in the United States. In late February, the president voiced his hopes that “the numbers are going to get progressively better as we go along.”

    They would not. In fact, as Trump spoke, the virus had reached a nursing home in the Seattle suburb of Kirkland, where it has so far killed 35 residents. The staff knew a mysterious virus was circulating, but life went on as normal. A concerned visitor who had gone to a Mardi Gras party at the center reached out to King County Public Health, the Los Angeles Times reported, and got the runaround.

    On February 26, the CDC confirmed what should have been clear much earlier: Community transmission in the United States had begun. The coronavirus was now spreading among Americans who had not traveled abroad or known a confirmed case. At least 60 people in the country now had the virus, according to the CDC’s totals at the time—and, as researchers and analysts soon realized, the true number was almost certainly much higher.

    The CDC’s website now says that there were already 268 cases in the United States by that date. When Japan had nearly as many confirmed cases, it closed every school in the country. But because of the testing backlog, the United States remained unaware of its infection rate. And the president encouraged happy thinking. As CDC officials warned that the number of cases could soon quickly rise, Trump disagreed. “Within a couple of days,” he said, the number of cases “is going to be down to close to zero. That’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

    Bedford now estimates that roughly 7,640 people in the United States were already infected.

    Chu, the Seattle infectious-disease specialist, decided not to wait for government officials any longer. As the United States declared the first cases of community transmission, she tested through Greninger’s lab without official approval and got a positive. The meaning was obvious to her. “It’s just everywhere already,” she later told The New York Times.

    Under pressure to get tests out, the most important fix that our national agencies could make was to simply allow labs to start testing people. In a description that has now been removed from the CDC’s website, the agency gave labs simple instructions: They should use the two working reagents in the old kits. These instructions could have gone out weeks before they actually did, Greninger says, because they relied on the supplies that the CDC had already sent.

    Meanwhile, Bedford began examining the new coronavirus strains from patients in Washington State, just as he had, six weeks earlier, analyzed the Asian samples. The Seattle-area specimens led him to a devastating conclusion: The viral genomes were too similar to have arrived in the United States at different times, from different people, but they were also too varied to have arrived recently. By the end of February, the disease had not only established itself in the United States. It had been circulating for close to six weeks. Seattle, on March 1, found itself in the same position as Wuhan did on January 1, with a growing coronavirus outbreak that was on the verge of exploding.

    If Seattle went the route of Wuhan, the nation had three weeks before being set on a track in which hundreds or even thousands of people might die in Washington State alone. If a fire was raging in Seattle, it would throw off sparks across the country, hitting many more.

    The clock required urgent action. On March 2, Bedford pressed Seattle officials to implement social-distancing policies immediately. If the epidemic grew any further … well, the CDC knew what might happen.

    “Widespread transmission of COVID-19 in the United States would translate into large numbers of people needing medical care at the same time,” the agency warned in a passage titled “What May Happen” on the coronavirus page of its website. “Public health and healthcare systems may become overloaded, with elevated rates of hospitalizations and deaths.”

    One day after Bedford published his warning, the CDC announced that it would stop reporting how many people in the United States had been tested for the coronavirus. Donald Trump shared his views on Fox News the following night. “A lot of people will have this, and it’s very mild,” he said. “They’ll get better very rapidly. They don’t even see a doctor. They don’t even call a doctor.”

    The virus was now clearly spreading, but the CDC still seemed stuck in neutral. On March 10, CDC Director Robert Redfield described his agency’s strategy to The New York Times. “It’s going to take rigorous, aggressive public health—what I like to say, block and tackle, block and tackle, block and tackle, block and tackle,” he said. “That means if you find a new case, you isolate it.”

    Redfield’s advice would have sounded reasonable back on Planet A, where the U.S. surveillance apparatus had not failed so spectacularly, but it was almost nonsensical on Planet B, where we all now live. Almost no one was getting tested, so how could anyone find a new case? A few days earlier, a state-by-state investigation by The Atlantic found little evidence that more than 2,000 people had been tested nationwide. We also found that many states had effectively no ability to test for COVID-19, and the few that did—Washington and California—were already deep into their local outbreaks. After we published the story, reports flooded in from across the country from people who had been denied tests, or doctors who couldn’t get one for patients who they believed needed them. In some cases, even doctors who had treated COVID-19 patients were not able to get tested.

    As we heard from dozens of frightened and frustrated people across the country, President Trump told reporters, “Anyone who wants a test can get a test.” This was and is still not true.

    The scarcity of tests forced officials to ration them. States, counties, and hospitals implemented strict rules about who could qualify for a test. The rules, while based on CDC guidance, were often too limited, given how widely the virus had already spread: They asked about foreign travel and confirmed exposure to a COVID-19–positive patient, weeks after it was clear that the virus was in the United States and that many cases were going undetected. At least 19 states have used a version of the rules that made it effectively impossible to detect the first signs of community spread in a state or city.

    In the few places where officials have tested people without known exposure to COVID-19, they have found the virus. In Sonoma County, California, the public-health department asked four hospitals to test the first 20 patients who walked in the door each day with any coronavirus symptoms—even if the patient had not traveled abroad or been exposed to another known case. They started the project on a Friday. They had found a positive by Saturday. “All we needed was one case to say: Yes, we have community transmission,” Jennifer Larocque, a spokesperson for the county, told us.

    In other places, the criteria have prevented residents from understanding the true extent of community spread. Nebraska, which hewed closely to the rules, insisted it had only one case of community spread, even as suspicious cases filled ICUs, according to a 35-year-old doctor who asked not to be named, because she was not authorized to speak with the press. Nebraska announced its second case of community spread on Wednesday. The state has tested 800 people, total, for the coronavirus, the chief medical officer said.

    The federal government’s reliance on CDC data about the severity of the outbreak froze efforts to stop it. Even after Bedford’s warning, the government published no studies of viral mutation. The void forced leaders to act on the basis of risk, not solid information. How could a mayor shut down her city if it had only 10 for-sure cases? How could a CEO tell employees to call off their trips—and not to Western Europe or central China, but to Seattle?

    American cities, blinded by the lack of testing data, did little as crucial days went by. On March 7, as the severity of the local outbreak was becoming known, huge events were allowed to go on. More than 30,000 people attended a Seattle Sounders game that night. No one wanted to say what has now become clear: February was our chance to get this right. We lost that entire month. And we now live in a new era of work stoppages, overwhelmed hospitals, dead elders, and a wrecked economy.

    No one had the guts to say what needed to be said over the past month: To save our people, we will have to keep our cities in a chokehold and decimate our economy. It would have taken guts and the full-throated backing of every level of government and agency, as well as irrefutable data, for local officials to do something like that. No one told them to, and the data did not exist for them to come to that conclusion on their own.

    Without strong federal leadership, each state has been going after its own solutions and running its own show, as if its residents would stay neatly within their own state lines. Despite the rising number of cases and hospitalizations, President Trump tried to use partisan rhetorical tactics to fight the virus, and in so doing, encouraged Americans to ignore legitimate, dire warnings. Now, though Trump has begun to mobilize a response to the pandemic, his base has been slow to acknowledge that precautions are necessary. This dangerous remove from reality was possible for too long because of the absence of data showing how bad things already were.

    Ironically, given that the debacle started with testing, it may end there as well. South Korea, which on March 1 was the site of the largest confirmed coronavirus outbreak outside of China, has aggressively tested a huge percentage of its population, and continues to screen massive numbers of people. Now, just three weeks later, new COVID-19 cases are declining, and only 102 people have died as of Friday. Washington State, with one-seventh the population of South Korea, already has 83 fatalities. The U.S. caseload has ballooned to almost 20,000, more than twice South Korea’s total. Bedford and other experts believe that Korean-style massive-scale testing will be essential to restoring normal economic conditions. “This is the Apollo program of our times,” he said this week. “Let’s get to it.”

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    I’ve been interested in this question. Cause if you are immune once youve had it, the world is a lot different, than if you could still get it again. And again.

    Looks like the answer is: we dunno?

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    3. Can I catch COVID-19 a second time?

    Catching a coronavirus generally means that person is immune, at least for a time, to repeat infection. But doubts arose regarding COVID-19 in late February when a woman in her late 40s who had been discharged from hospital in Osaka, Japan tested positive a second time. There also a similar case with one of the Diamond Princess passengers, and another in South Korea. These were isolated cases, but more worrying was research from Guangdong province, China reporting that 14% of recovering patients had also retested positive.

    However, it is too early to jump to conclusions. These cases have not been fully confirmed, with many possible explanations, including faulty, over-sensitive or over-diligent testing; or that the virus had become dormant for a time and then re-emerged. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stress that our immune response to this particular disease is not yet clearly understood: “Patients with MERS-CoV infection are unlikely to be reinfected shortly after they recover, but it is not yet known whether similar immune protection will be observed for patients with COVID-19.”

    In terms of other after-effects, scientists are also currently speculating that coronavirus patients may suffer from reduced lung capacity following a bout of the disease. The Hong Kong Hospital Authority observed that two out of three recovering patients had lost 20-30% of lung function – something that can be treated with physiotherapy.
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    4. How long might immunity to COVID-19 last?

    “If you get an infection, your immune system is revved up against that virus,” Dr. Keiji Fukuda, director of Hong Kong University’s School of Public Health, told The LA Times. “To get reinfected again when you’re in that situation would be quite unusual unless your immune system was not functioning right.” With many past viruses, immunity can last years – but the reinfection question shows the bigger picture surrounding COVID-19 remains cloudy.

    One thing that might help clarify the immunity question is developing serological tests for antibodies to SARS-CoV2, the COVID-19 pathogen. This would not only provide more information about individual immune-system responses, but also able researchers to more accurately identify the total population affected – by detecting people who might have slipped through the net after recovery. No country currently has confirmed access to such a test, according to The Guardian. But numerous scientists around the world – including one in Singapore that has claimed a successful trial – are working on them.
    link:https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/coronavirus-recovery-what-happens-after-covid19/

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    In reply to: Coronavirus and Us

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    Poverty is way scarier than the virus.

    yes. and my patients are at a high risk due to many many many underlying medical conditions. it’s unfortunate. we’re only doing emergency appointments at this point. it just really sucks.

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    Some simple notes. Mon spouse is an RN who works in a facility that cares for the elderly, aging, and dying. They already have one patient with symptoms (though I don’t know if she was tested.) That patient is in full, complete quarantine in a different part of the building far from others. Because of Margo, I have to take more precautions than most. I can’t come home and spread something to her which would then invade the facility where she works. So I rarely if ever go out. When I do go–as I have a couple of times–it is to the store. When I do that I wear both a mask (a real KN95) and surgical gloves (nice blue ones). I just can’t afford to be uncautious in any way shape or form–it partly for my own sake, but mostly because my wife works with the most vulnerable population and so I have to act accordingly. The couple of times I have gone out, I am the only one in the store with a mask and gloves. A tiny part of me feels odd about that but mostly not–the stakes are too high and too real to care how I look in a store. Margo cleans all purchases with disinfectants and there is much hands washing (like after getting the mail or touching the mail in any way).

    There are some shortages here but we have not felt them. We tended to mass purchase before this anyway (Margo is a Sam’s fanatic and loves to bulk purchase and has for years) and so if we had to, we could go for weeks getting by on what we already have in the house. (Recent purchases are pretty much only perishables like eggs, cream, and fresh veggies.)

    My daughter and fiance live about 45 minutes south of us. They are in their 20s but fairly vulnerable because of pre-existing conditions. Nothing they can’t manage in normal times but there’s a hint of worry there in these times. My other daughter is married and lives in Florida and is pregnant. We worry about her too.

    There’s worries, but neither Margo nor I like to indulge panic. We both stand on a belief in informed, reasonable, clear thinking about the heavier things in life like this. (My daughter’s fiance on the other hand is a depression prone worrier. I have tried to say that emotional stress adds to the dangers. I hope that is heard.)

    We both worry about our mothers. (Both fathers passed long ago.) Both mothers are in facilities far away, in different states, and both have medical issues. They’re in their 80s. But they also both have family in town who are invested and caring, so the day to day stuff for them is good.

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