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    I don’t foresee them cutting SB next year.
    He knows the system, he’s got great talent,
    he’ll beat out any young QB they draft.

    So, i imagine they’ll be patient with him,
    and not ‘count’ on him, and bring back
    Hill if he does well, and they’ll draft
    a QB in the first or second round,
    and they’ll sort it all out.

    Its tricky though. Balancing the money/cap-hit
    versus the starting-over-with-a-Rookie thing.

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    #5007
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    He’s the quarterback version of Amendola. You gotta move on….he can’t stay on the field.

    Well, Amendola kept getting different injuries. How does the same injury getting re-injured mean Bradford is Amendola?

    People are going to be taking different views on this. One view will be, 2 knees means he’s not durable. Another view will be, re-injuring the same knee does not signal that. Unlike Saffold, who injures something different each time, or Amendola, who was reckless with a body that could not handle reckless.

    I am of the “wait and find out” school. I honestly do not see the issue with him coming back and finding out if he can play. Though each time I say that, I add they’re going to also get another qb, and it’s responded to with, but they have to get another qb. (?) Of course they’re going to get another qb (though drafting high in round 1 is not the only way to do that.) I think some people around the net think they’re debating against an “attachment to Sam” position. That’s not it. It’s being smart about the qb spot. If Bradford can play after all this is said and done, then, keeping him isn’t sentimental, nor is this “you have to move on” idea all that sound. Why? If it turns out after all is said and done he is competitive as a qb option, why do you have to “move on”? It’s not a break-up, it’s a personnel issue.

    I agree with this post, anyway. ===>

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    SunTzu_vs_Camus

    I think Bradford is a very good QB that just started to have an offense around him. 2 ACLs back-to-back is a nasty bit of luck. Just so sad.Sam looked great to me and he’ll be completely healthy for OTAs and his ACL will have many more extra months of healing. Either way, the Rams should draft a QB high and have them fight for the starting job.

    I just don’t want to watch another Warner situation happen to this team at the most important position…cuz they were not patient. But I understand that it all may just be too much for the organization. We’ll see how they play it.

    The Rams will draft a young gun/QB in the 1st or 2nd and let them both duke it out over the Summer…if Sam beats out the young QB and plays great..winner stays and so does the loser cuz the rookie will be cheap for 4 years.
    and we’ll have our bases covered. We have 2 good QBs for next year + Shaun Hill.

    If Sam loses and the kid is a big flash…then maybe we cut Sam….but we CAN afford to keep BOTH Sam and a 1st round pick for 2015. Hedge our bets.
    But Sam is a talent…a good man who’s had BAD luck.

    I do NOT want another situation(like Warner) where we cast Sam aside after a few bad years of injuries….and Sam rises for another team. I think many folks forget how HARD it is to find a good NFL QB…and I think we had one…who was ready to rise this year. Even just drafting ones in the 1st round…it’s still a real challenge to get them ready.

    Let’s keep Sam for his last year and draft a kid for cheap. I’ll bet Sam may even renegotiate for cheap too after this season and put much into incentives…or maybe not. LOl

    I want Sam…still do especially after watching him throw downfield to WRs that caught the ball. We were ready for a helluva fireworks show this year. It felt like it was all coming together on offense. imo It’s a team game….and Sam is still a part of this team. We can still be successful.

    I just really liked Sam finally throwing downfield like a freakin monster…
    and Quick & Britt…out fighting the ball for the catch!!! THAT was what we’ve been waiting for…and Sam has finally got some real NFL WRs who fight for the ball judging by last night.

    Anyway, keep Sam and draft a stud QB in the 1st or 2nd and let them fight it out. We CAN afford both and protect our team. We are building something special here and I think all the players know it. We just a hit little road bump.

    #4559
    RamBill
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    http://www.rams-news.com/brandon-washington-battles-to-get-back-to-practice-field-pd/%5D Brandon Washington Battles to Get Back to Practice Field –PD
    Rams guard Brandon Washington readily admits he is not a good patient.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-report-team-prepares-for-browns-in-first-post-camp-practice-pd/%5D Laurinaitis Practicing, But Still Iffy For Browns –PD
    The Rams wrapped up their first post-training camp workout Thursday and went through some of their final preparations for Saturday night’s preseason game against the Browns in Cleveland.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-report-team-prepares-for-browns-in-first-post-camp-practice-pd/%5D Rams Report: Team Prepares for Browns In First Post-Camp Practice –PD
    The Rams wrapped up their first post-training camp workout Thursday and went through some of their final preparations for Saturday night’s preseason game against the Browns in Cleveland.

    http://www.rams-news.com/practice-recap-prepping-for-cleveland-st-louisrams-com/%5D Practice Recap: Prepping for Cleveland –St.LouisRams.com
    The Rams endured the heat in their first post-training camp practice of 2014 at Rams Park on Thursday.

    http://www.rams-news.com/st-louis-rams-thursday-practice-report-wagoner/%5D St. Louis Rams Thursday Practice Report –Wagoner
    With the “official” end of training camp coming and going Wednesday, the Rams practiced without any eyes other than media watching Thursday afternoon.

    http://www.rams-news.com/michael-brockers-expecting-to-play-against-browns-wagoner/%5D Michael Brockers Expecting to Play Against Browns –Wagoner
    Although the final decision will fall in the hands of St. Louis Rams coach Jeff Fisher, defensive tackle Michael Brockers leaves little doubt about what he’s expecting Saturday night against the Cleveland Browns.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-post-practice-twitter-summary-aug-21/%5D Rams Post Practice Twitter Summary: Aug. 21

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-coach-jeff-fisher-were-looking-for-improvement-video/%5D Rams Coach Jeff Fisher: “We’re looking for improvement” –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-head-coach-jeff-fisher-press-conference-transcript-aug-21/%5D Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher Press Conference Transcript: Aug. 21

    http://www.rams-news.com/third-annual-rams-training-camp-dizzy-bat-race-video/%5D Third Annual Rams Training Camp Dizzy Bat Race –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/mike-tannebaum-on-why-he-likes-the-rams-wrs-radio-interview/%5D Mike Tannebaum On Why He Likes the Rams WR’s –Radio Interview

    http://www.rams-news.com/st-louis-rams-2014-opening-video/%5D St. Louis Rams 2014 Opening Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/gordo-on-the-rams-whos-hot-whos-not/%5D Gordo On the Rams: Who’s Hot, Who’s Not
    Assessing the Rams as training camp breaks

    http://www.rams-news.com/gordons-tipsheet-rams-rank-last-in-nfl-team-value/%5D Gordon’s Tipsheet: Rams Rank Last in NFL Team Value
    Poor Stan Kroenke. His Rams are the least valuable team in the NFL according to the latest Forbes Magazine study, worth just $930 million.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-day-17-camp-report-latsch/%5D Rams Day 17 Camp Report –Latsch
    The Rams officially closed out training camp on Wednesday afternoon with a hot and humid practice session highlighted by the attendance of two area football teams from McCluer and McCluer North high schools.

    http://www.rams-news.com/james-laurinaitis-moves-closer-to-return-wagoner/%5D James Laurinaitis Moves Closer to Return –Wagoner
    Watching a St. Louis Rams game, preseason or otherwise, without the presence of linebacker James Laurinaitis is a little bit strange.

    http://www.rams-news.com/morning-ram-blings-breakout-players-wagoner/%5D Morning Ram-blings: Breakout Players –Wagoner
    In Wednesday’s Ram-blings, we discussed linebacker Alec Ogletree and how his success in 2014 could help make or break the St. Louis Rams’ season.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-safety-t-j-mcdonald-we-want-to-play-physical-video/%5D Rams Safety T.J. McDonald: “We want to play physical” –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-dt-michael-brockers-on-returning-to-practice-radio-interview/%5D Rams DT Michael Brockers on Returning to Practice –Radio Interview

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-head-coach-jeff-fisher-post-practice-press-conference-transcript-aug-20/%5D Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher Post Practice Press Conference Transcript: Aug. 20

    http://www.rams-news.com/jim-thomas-previews-the-rams-vs-browns-game-video/%5D Jim Thomas Previews the Rams vs. Browns Game –Video

    RamBill
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    Washington battles to get back to practice field
    • By Joe Lyons

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/washington-battles-to-get-back-to-the-practice-field/article_1b032f97-cd71-5c67-a7ff-99e4848c8911.html

    Rams guard Brandon Washington readily admits he is not a good patient.

    “I probably was a pain in the butt for the guys in the training room because I was constantly bugging them to let me get back on the field,’’ said Washington, a second-year pro who returned to the practice field this week after missing time with a hamstring injury. “I did everything in my power and they helped get me back out here.

    “I cannot afford to be on the sideline. I just kept reminding myself daily that you can’t make the club in the tub.’’

    The 6-foot-2, 320-pound Washington hopes to make his preseason debut Saturday when the Rams take on the Browns in Cleveland. Even while injured, he tried to stay as connected to the offensive line as possible.

    “You can’t afford to fall behind, so you try to stay on top of things physically, mentally and emotionally,’’ Washington, 25, from the University of Miami, said. “But it’s good to be out here again, back with my brothers. It just feels good to get some reps and get a chance to compete again.’’

    Washington, one of a handful of players battling for interior-line spots, was selected by Philadelphia in the sixth round of the draft in 2012 and signed to the Rams’ practice squad that September. Last season, he split time between the practice squad and active roster before making his regular-season debut with 17 offensive snaps in the Rams’ season-ending loss in Seattle.

    TOUGH LUCK FOR DANIELS

    Safety Matt Daniels, a third-year pro from Duke, simply can’t catch a break when it comes to injuries.

    Signed as an undrafted free agent in 2012, Daniels went down with a season-ending knee injury that fall when a teammate rolled up on his leg as Daniels was blocking on a punt return. Last year, on an very similar play in the season’s second game, he suffered a broken ankle and was again done for the year.

    This month, in the preseason opener against New Orleans, Daniels lasted just three snaps on special teams before being sidelined.

    “It happened in the first quarter, but I couldn’t tell you much more than that,’’ the 24-year-old said. “On the sideline, I just felt a little off, so I went to trainers. Surely enough, I was concussed, and had to shut it down before I even got a chance to get any defensive snaps.’’

    Daniels sat out last weekend’s game with Green Bay and returned to practice early this week.

    “It’s always frustrating when you can’t play because you feel like everybody else is getting a chance to compete and get better, but I couldn’t even be in the building,’’ he said. “They told me to stay home and rest. I just felt useless.

    “But I’m feeling good and I’m starting to get excited about playing football. And I’m excited about Cleveland. I’ve got two games to show what I can do and I’m definitely ready to ramp it up a little bit.’’

    CATCHING UP

    The lone fullback on the Rams’ roster, rookie Kadeem Jones suffered a hamstring injury a day or two into camp and returned to the practice field early this week.

    “Just feels good to be back out there, getting reps with my guys,’’ the 5-foot-10, 266-pounder from Western Kentucky said. “It was frustrating (sitting out), but I did my best to take mental reps to stay involved. Now that I’m back, I really have to get after it, doing whatever I need to do to stay.’’

    Jones, 22, attempted to come back to practice a week or so ago, but returned to the stationary bike the next day.

    “A minor setback,’’ said Jones, who focused on blocking in college but did manage to score 15 career touchdowns for the Hilltoppers.

    After missing so much time, Jones has some catching up to do.

    “Just taking it day by day, rep by rep,’’ he said. “All I can do is give it all I’ve got and trust and believe in God.’’

    When discussing the return of several players, Rams coach Jeff Fisher did mention Jones: “Kadeem looks like he’s on the road to recovery, looks like he’ll be full speed tomorrow.’’

    RAM-BLINGS

    The Rams wrapped up their first post-training camp workout Thursday and went through some of their final preparations for Saturday night’s game at Cleveland.

    Coach Jeff Fisher expects left tackle Jake Long, offensive lineman Rodger Saffold and defensive tackle Michael Brockers to start. Even with the status of middle linebacker James Laurinaitis still to be determined, the Rams could have as many as 20 of their normal starters on the field for the third preseason contest.

    Only a handful of players missed Thursday’s workout — linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar, defensive ends William Hayes and Sammy Brown, defensive tackle Matt Conrath, linebacker Pat Schiller, center Demetrius Rhaney and guard/center Barrett Jones.

    • As expected, running back and special teams player Isaiah Pead was not claimed on waivers and has been shifted to the injured reserve list. Pead, a third-year pro, suffered a torn ACL in his left knee while returning a first-quarter kickoff last weekend.• With their season openers slated for this weekend, the three high school football squads from the Ferguson-Florissant School District — McCluer, McCluer North and McCluer South-Berkeley — practiced at the Rams indoor facility on Thursday.

    #4483
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    some follow-up

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    CoachO

    I plan on working on a final report, giving my general thoughts on where they are, and evaluate the roster kinda like I did at the midway point of camp. There have been a few players who really helped themselves over the final 2 weeks, and some who have slipped. It should be an interesting final two weeks of the Preseason.

    I would say there are a couple of surprises. On both ends of the spectrum.

    On the positive side, one of my biggest surprises is just how good Bradford has looked. The velocity on some of the throws is noticeably better. He is fitting throws into tight windows consistently. Obviously, the combination of Quick and Britt, and how well they have looked has been a big surprise.

    On the other end, Givens has been a huge disappointment. I have never been a big fan, but he just looks disinterested, and almost defeated. He contributes next to nothing in practice, and other than a few days two weeks ago, he looks no where near the guy they drafted. The other, again, not a huge fan (obvious to anyone who has read anything I have posted before) but with all the hype and chatter about how Armstrong was poised to step in and “take reps from Dunbar”, he has been given every opportunity, and has not shown much at all. In fact, I now hear how “we need to be patient” “he is still earning a new position”, “he missed the last year of school” and “at least he still is a value because of his Special Teams play.”

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    Austin looks like the 3rd or 4th option on many of the routes he runs. Most are crossing routes, or an occasional wheel route up the sideline. They tried to run the toss/reverse they ran vs. Chicago, and it was sniffed out by Westbrooks who stayed at home, and was waiting for him when he reversed fields.

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    I have always paid close attention to the Special Teams, especially the 2nd units. They tend to be very fluid, based on who is not practicing, and who the coaches feel deserve an extra look. Fisher commented last week, that every position coach, breaks down the Special Team tapes, so they can see their position players and how they perform. So it’s not just Coach Fassel when it comes to input on these teams. They can be very telling as to the back end of the roster, and who is garnering a second look.

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    [Jake]…Long looks fine. He always looks like he just understands how to play the position. No worries about him being ready.

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    Quick didn’t look to be serious. He just got caught in an awkward position, extended and reaching for a high throw. Davis didnt hit him hard, just ill timed and caught him just right. For what’s worth, Quick did not look happy about it as practice wore on.

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    Hayes was limited, and I had a conversation wiht someone who said they are just being very cautious with him. His hip is the biggest issue from the off season, and they want to ease him back.

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    Robinson in one on one stuff dominates more than not. It’s still not as consistent as he needs to be in terms of assigments, and playing “fast”. I was somewhat surprised, that Saffold worked as much as he did at LG today, and that Robinson took most of his reps with the “2’s”.

    What’s with Joseph getting 1st team reps over Robinson and GRob with the second unit? Joseph has been the one constant this entire training camp. He and Barksdale have been out there virtually every day since the begining of camp.

    What direction they go in, is purely speculation, even on my part, and wont’ do us any good. There are a 100 different possible scenarios as to why they are doing what they are doing [playing GRob with the 2s in one practice]…. It’s one day, so I am not reading anything into it. But I did think it was something that needed to be mentioned in my camp report.What they do in the next 2 preseason game will give us a much better picture of their plans heading into Sept 7th.

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    [LBs]…Phillip Steward has been a constant in getting 2nd unit reps from the outset of training camp. At this point, I would say he is definitely in their plans. He is showing up on Special Teams as well.

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    I would be shocked if Washington makes this roster. He has missed a ton of training camp, and honestly, I didn’t like his chances before camp. I think they have added too much talent, who have made him vunerable. He stuck around last year because he was the “best” of an otherwise very weak group of depth guys. By adding the likes of Joseph, and even Bond to some extent, Brandon Washington’s day could be numbered.

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    RamBill
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    Rams Lay Foundation in the Trenches With Robinson & Donald

    By Casey Pearce

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Rams-Lay-Foundation-in-the-Trenches-With-Robinson–Donald/1bf52adb-b049-4fa2-b2f8-2fcc0dc71c10

    The following piece was initially published in the first edition of the 2014 Rams Insider Magazine. For more stories like this, purchase a copy of the Rams Insider Magazine during any and all Rams home games at the Edward Jones Dome.

    Rams General Manager Les Snead is a big fan of crafty analogies and weighty quotes.

    His office is decorated in them. They are mounted in frames on his walls.

    Several are scribbled in Snead’s handwriting on a grease board behind his desk, including Benjamin Franklin’s famous quote, “Well done is better than well said,” and another from author Steven Covey, “The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.”

    Snead’s mantra, “Wake up sprinting and don’t be scared,” is one that is often repeated by Rams staffers throughout the building.

    So it came as no surprise that shortly after executing the team’s two first-round picks in May’s NFL Draft, the head man of the team’s personnel department developed the perfect metaphor to describe the team’s approach to the picks, ones that yielded massive offensive lineman Greg Robinson and penetrating, disruptive defensive tackle Aaron Donald.

    “When you lay your foundation for your skyscraper, it’s probably the least exciting thing that you do,” Snead said. “But that’s the thing that holds that skyscraper up for a lot of years.”

    In the Rams’ case, the foundation is literally the front and center portion of their team on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball. Snead and Head Coach Jeff Fisher chose grit over glitz, and while Snead understands that the selection of big two men in the first round might not draw the same buzz that other position potentially could bring, he has strong convictions about the approach.

    “We’re in an age where skill people are sexy,” Snead said. “Fantasy football is hot. Those guys are some of the nice ornaments on the building. It may not be the sexiest thing in the world, but we’re building the foundation of our building, and that foundation is what’s going to hold it up for years to come. The lines are the closest thing to the ball. Our approach to the draft was definitely a strategy that we’re going to get our foundation stronger, and I think that’s going to help us.”

    As Snead, Fisher and their staffs work to build a roster that they hope will return them to the top of the NFC West and ultimately the NFL, they do so with a specific philosophy in mind. Fisher has always been point blank about what he hopes to develop in the personality of his teams. He laid it out in plain terms when he took his current job in January of 2012.

    “We’re going to have a disciplined, tough, physical football team that’s going to first and foremost matchup and be able to win games in the division,” Fisher said. “It’s a team that’s going to run the football, protect the quarterback, play good defense and get the ball back.”

    The formula is one that has yielded plenty of success in in the NFL in recent years. It’s the one Seattle used to win its first Super Bowl a year ago. It’s the one San Francisco has ridden to three-consecutive NFC Championship Game appearances and a narrow defeat in a Super Bowl. It’s the personality other recent champions such as Pittsburgh and the New York Giants have used to win multiple titles.

    That’s why Snead pauses a little when he hears that the NFL has become a “passing league.”

    “I think it’s correct to say the passing game has gotten more sophisticated,” Snead said. “We may be throwing the ball more. I think if you just throw that out as a blanket statement, it’s low-hanging fruit. When you run the ball well, it can get you in the 2nd-and-6s, the 2nd-and-4s, and at that point it’s a harder guess for the defensive coordinator. When teams find balance offensively, it seems like the defense is always playing on their heels. Coordinators and players are guessing, not sure what’s going to happen. It’s correct to say passing has gotten better, but it’s not a passing league.”

    That’s why both Robinson and Donald were such good fits with St. Louis. Their strengths were exactly what Snead and Fisher look for in players at their positions, ones that are keys to being the type of team they want St. Louis to be.

    “On the offensive side of the ball, we’re going to run the ball and we’re going to run it well,” Snead said. “Any time you can get physical up front and be able to run the ball when you want to, you can close out games and open up your passing game. I think pass protection speaks for itself, not only the tackles, but with a pocket passer being able to stand up. Greg’s going to help us there.”

    The Rams see Donald as a disruptive player against both the run and the pass, one that can join an already strong front that will allow St. Louis to set the tone defensively.

    “We’re going to be an aggressive defense,” Snead said. “There are a lot of ways you can disrupt rhythm and timing. We think one of the best ways to do it is with the guys that are closest to the ball. If you can disrupt rhythm and timing and cause an offense that goes down the field to shorten up their passing game, they’re not playing to their strengths. Same thing in the running game. If you’re strong up front, you can get tackles for loss. You can get into some long distance downs where you can let your pass rushers go.

    A Mountain of a Man

    At 6-5, 332 pounds, Robinson already looks the part. He comes with the credentials as well. In 14 games last season, Auburn coaches credited Robinson with 130 “knockdown” blocks, an average of more than nine per game as the Tigers sparred with some of the best defenses in the country. As a team, Auburn averaged an NCAA-best 328.3 yards per game on the ground, and their massive left tackle had a lot to do with that success. Robinson was named First-Team All-SEC and was a Second-Team All-American by The Associated Press.

    Shortly after the Rams made Robinson the second overall pick, Fisher gushed about his massive new offensive lineman.

    “You talk about an athlete,” Fisher said. “Powerful with great quickness and strength. He’s got a chance to be a dominant player inside initially.”

    When a player is drafted as high as Robinson, it goes without saying that the team believes the sky is the limit, and that’s certainly the case with the Thibodaux, La. native. Robinson’s expectations are equally as high for himself, but he realizes he’s responsible for extracting the massive potential he possesses.

    “I control that ceiling,” Robinson said. “It’s just how much I want to learn. It’s just as far as going into it with a positive attitude and trusting the coaches. I believe (Offensive Line) Coach Paul Boudreau has a great plan for the O-Line. It’s up to me to work hard and be the best player I can be.”

    Recently, a reporter recited to Robinson a quote that former Redskins guard Russ Grimm used during his Hall of Fame induction speech. Grimm said that there was “no greater feeling in the world than moving a man from point A to point B against his will.”

    Robinson wasn’t familiar with the quote, but he nodded his head in agreement. A quick YouTube search can yield plenty of evidence of Robinson enjoying Grimm’s favorite activity. Robinson is glad to play for a team that has the offensive mentality that the Rams possess.

    “I love to run block because of the way it can wear down a defense,” Robinson said. “When you run the ball well, you can impose your will. This offense (with the Rams) is a lot different than what we did at Auburn but I’m excited about it.”

    After playing his collegiate career at left tackle, it’s likely that Robinson will likely begin his NFL days as a guard. The challenges of transitioning to a new position while adjusting to a completely new level of competition are ones that have tested Robinson, but he’s confident that he’ll grow into the role this summer.

    “I can get my hands on them faster, so it’s something that I think I can grow to like,” Robinson said. “I’m a little rusty. It’s been a while since I played guard, but I’m certainly up for the challenge. I’ll do whatever it takes to help my team.”

    In practice, one of Robinson’s biggest challenges may be dealing with his new teammates. When Fisher was asked on draft night if Robinson could play guard, the coach responded in the affirmative but jokingly tempered his expectations for Robinson in practice.

    “He may initially have a little trouble blocking Aaron (Donald),” Fisher said.

    Quick to the Punch

    If Robinson does have a hard time trying to block his fellow first round pick, he’ll hardly be the only player who has experienced such troubles. You’d be hard pressed to find a guard in the Atlantic Coast Conference who did so a year ago as Donald led the nation with 28.5 tackles for loss.

    If he can continue that productivity at the NFL level, Donald will fit in perfectly with his new teammates. The Rams finished third in the league in sacks last season after finishing atop the NFL standings in the category in 2012. With the addition of Donald, the Rams now have four first-round picks on the defensive line. They also have a position coach in Mike Waufle who is widely considered one of the best in the business at his craft.

    With the experience and talent surrounding him at his position group, Donald knows he’ll be in a great position to succeed. Not only will he benefit from teams having to choose wisely when trying to figure out whom to double team up front due to the Rams’ depth of talent, Donald will also have a wealth of knowledge in his meeting room from which he can draw.

    “I’m real excited just to have those veteran guys like that around me,” Donald said. “I can learn from them and if I need something, anything answered that I feel like I’m struggling with, I can ask those guys and they can push me and help me to take my game to another level, so I’m real excited about it.”

    Donald stands 6-1 and weighs 285 pounds, which makes him physically different from fellow Rams defensive tackles Michael Brockers (6-5, 326) and Kendall Langford (6-6, 313). Speed, quickness and technique are Donald’s tools to success, and they had Fisher raving on draft night.

    “He’s way ahead in hand use on the line of scrimmage,” Fisher said. “He does an outstanding job with his hands.”

    Snead even sees Donald’s physique as a benefit.

    “His game is not size,” Snead said. “I think his game is speed, quickness, so I think getting bigger really doesn’t help him. One of the reasons we were fine with the pick is he’s short so he always has leverage and he’s just a strong kid.”

    Donald has received strong reviews in training camp for his ability to quickly get off the ball and disrupt plays in the backfield. Donald knows he must improve daily, and the excitement of those around him is tempered by the knowledge that the Pittsburgh native has yet to take a snap in an NFL game. However, the Rams believe they have good reason to feel positive about Donald’s future. Simply put, he fits the mold and looks the part.

    “It just seems like his body mechanics, the way he bends and moves and takes steps, it’s perfectly in symmetry in what you want the ideal defensive lineman to do,” Snead said. “Make this step, take this angle, dip this shoulder, use this hand. You see some great Olympic swimmers and their lungs are in this shape, their torsos are longer, their wingspans are wider. They’re just made to swim. This guy was made to play defensive tackle.”

    Great Expectations

    If you look at the Rams’ first-round picks over the last five years, the precedent has been set. In 2010, Sam Bradford was the NFL’s Offensive Rookie of the Year. A year later, the team’s top pick was Robert Quinn, who led the NFC with 19.0 sacks last season and is considered among the elite in the NFL at his position. The 2012 Draft yielded Michael Brockers, whom has started 28 games in two seasons and helped transform the Rams’ defensive fronts into one of the league’s best. Last year, Tavon Austin gave the Rams explosive plays and scored six touchdowns, while Alec Ogletree was a 16-game starter and the team’s leading tackler.

    The bar has been set high. Robinson is expected to start from Day 1. With Langford coming off a career year in 2013, Donald may not be on the field for the first snap of every game, but he’ll see his share of action in the rotation.

    Both players have extremely high expectations, but they’re realistic about what they’ll have to do to meet them.

    “I believe that to whom much is given, much is expected,” Robinson said. “I feel like you’ve just got to go along with it and you fall in place wherever you land. It’s just all about your work ethic and how hard you work.”

    For Donald, it’s a simple approach. He tries to block out distractions so he can focus on his job.

    “All I can do is play ball,” Donald said. “When my name is called, I’ve got to try to be productive. I’m part of a great defensive line. I’ve got great coaches. I just have to work hard and do my part when my name is call.”

    Although it’s early in their rookie years, Snead likes what he sees from his “foundation pieces.” When asked about the development of Robinson and Donald, the Rams’ GM hedged his answer a bit. He referred to recent comments made by Chip Kelly in which the Eagles’ coach said he believes the NFL Draft is extremely overhyped.

    Snead understands the hype and knows it’s part of what makes his job what it is. He knows the Rams must be patient, but he also knows he has reason to be excited.

    “We’re never going to take the hype of the draft away,” Snead said. “This is not a cookie cutter league. These are human beings. Each one is at different stages of their career. They don’t just come in and they’re King Kong. Every practice, they’re getting better. We’re jacked about it, but they’re not finished products yet. When they are, I think there are going to be a lot of fruits.”

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    Bradford Passes Preliminary Test Against Packers

    By Anthony Stalter

    http://www.101sports.com/2014/08/18/bradford-passes-preliminary-test-packers/

    Sam Bradford has easily been one of the most polarizing players in St. Louis sports over the last four years. And nothing he did on two drives in one exhibition game is going to change that for his detractors, but it was hard not to come away encouraged by his performance on Saturday afternoon.

    Take, for example, his 41-yard completion to Brian Quick on the second drive of the game. Maybe he still hears Steve Spagnuolo shouting in his ear to get rid of the ball after only three seconds or continues to fear for his life believing that the O-line that got him beat up in 2011 will suddenly inhabit the bodies of his current offensive linemen. Whatever the reason, there have been plenty of times throughout the course of his first four seasons when Bradford hasn’t been patient enough to let deeper routes develop in front of him.

    But that wasn’t the case on Saturday, as he stood tall behind solid protection and allowed Quick to complete his post pattern against Green Bay’s secondary. To Quick’s credit, he did a nice job flattening his route in order to stay under the safety and leave the cornerback on his hip pocket, then coming down with the ball after catching it at its highest point. The pass may have sailed a bit on Bradford, but he put it in a spot where his receiver could not only make a play on it, but also gain yards after the catch.

    There was also a more subtle positive later in the quarter when Bradford hit Kenny Britt for a 5-yard completion on third-and-three from Green Bay’s 10-yard line.

    One of the legitimate complaints about Bradford has been his lack of mobility inside the pocket. But on that specific play, Bradford looked left initially, but didn’t like what he saw, so he slid right and created an open passing window for himself. He found Britt, who nestled between defenders and got the first down before leaving the game with an apparent shoulder injury.

    Bradford doesn’t have to be Russell Wilson in terms of mobility, but even Dan Marino was fleet of foot when he needed to buy himself more time. Bradford showed said mobility on that completion to Britt.

    He also saved perhaps his best throw for last, as he found Lance Kendricks in the end zone for an 11-yard score midway through the second quarter. On that play, only three receivers went out for passes (four if you include running back Benny Cunningham, who ran a delay), including Kendricks, who ran a seam route. Knowing he only had a split second to fit the ball to his tight end, Bradford fired a missile between the second and third levels of the defense as Green Bay’s safety was just a hair late to break up the pass. For those who hadn’t seen it yet in camp, the play was a perfect example of how much velocity Bradford has added to his passes this offseason.

    So what conclusions can we draw from Saturday? None, really. Bradford has to show all of these things in the regular season and on a consistent basis if he’s going to take the preverbal next step. It also wasn’t all good for Bradford, as he missed a wide-open Britt streaking down the sidelines in the first quarter. His detractors will point to that play and the fact that it was only two drives in a preseason game as reasons not to lessen their stranglehold around Bradford’s neck.

    But it was a good start nonetheless. It’s one thing to show mobility, increased velocity and a higher penchant for throwing vertically in practice. It’s quite another to do it in a live game against a team in a different jersey. The fact that he took a hit on Saturday and also got back up without the need of the team’s medical staff was an encouraging sign as well.

    We’ll see if Bradford can parlay those two positive series into a full half against the Browns, and then into a full game against the Vikings in Week 1. He has a long ways to go, but at the very least, there are some early signs that he’s going to be a more aggressive signal-caller.

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    Bradford is good, but Packers are better
    • By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/bradford-is-good-but-packers-are-better/article_b0159eed-e9b6-5ffe-8007-e06ea0fecae9.html

    The Rams were little more than a speed bump for Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay’s no-huddle offense Saturday.

    Despite lots of work on the running game during the practice week, the Rams managed only 78 yards and 2.9 yards a carry on the ground.

    Run defense? Not good enough, with the Rams allowing 125 yards and 4.2 yards per carry to Eddie Lacy and Co.

    Penalties? Plenty. The Rams were in double figures again, with 10 penalties for 76 yards, although it should be noted that there’s an epidemic of flags throughout the NFL this preseason.

    But the most important thing to come out of the contest, played in a half-empty Edward Jones Dome, was the play of quarterback Sam Bradford. Easy enough to overlook in a 21-7 loss were Bradford’s nine completions in 12 attempts, good for 101 yards, a touchdown, and a passer

    rating of 127.4.

    “I was very pleased with his performance in the brief amount of time that he played,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “You could see, he has his fastball. It was a great throw to Brian (Quick) and also to Lance (Kendricks).

    Bradford threw a strike to Quick on a deep-in pattern on the Rams’ second possession of the game. Quick got some yards after the catch, making it a 41-yard gain to the Green Bay 35 before being brought down. Six plays later, Bradford worked through his progressions and found Kendricks over the middle for an 11-yard touchdown.

    Kendricks was blanketed by Packers safety Micah Hyde in coverage, so the throw had to be perfect — or close to it.

    “To be honest, we’ve called that play quite a bit in training camp, and I’m not sure the ball has ever gone there,” Bradford said. “But it was just a look where their safety was playing outside and Lance did a great job of getting around the ‘backer and inside the safety. … That’s not an easy catch.”

    After that throw, Bradford was done for the day. As was the case with Rodgers and the Packers, Bradford played only two series before making way for Shaun Hill, Garrett Gilbert, and Austin Davis.

    Bradford wasn’t perfect. Among his three incompletions was a deep sideline heave to Kenny Britt who had gotten behind the Packers’ secondary on the Rams’ first possession. But the throw was a little wide and ended up a couple of feet out of bounds. Otherwise, it might have been a touchdown.

    “I just missed it outside a little bit,” Bradford said. “It was an opportunity for a big play — just gotta keep it inbounds.”

    But among the 22 plays Bradford was on the field, two others said more about his night than any other completion or miss.

    Three plays before the miss to Britt, the Rams faced a fourth-and-3 from the Green Bay 43. Fisher likes to practice situational football when possible in the preseason, and in this instance he decided to go for it.

    With pass rushers surrounding him in the pocket, Bradford stayed patient, waiting for tight end Jared Cook to clear on a short crossing pattern.

    If Bradford was worried about his surgically repaired left knee, he might’ve thrown early or even bailed out. Instead, he calmly completed a five-yard pass for a first down.

    “We had confidence in him,” Fisher said. “He knew what to do. He knew what was going to unfold. We liked the look. He had options, he read it out, and made a good throw.”

    Another play of note came on the second Rams possession, just two plays after the big catch by Quick. On second-and-7 from the Green Bay 32, eight-time Pro Bowler Julius Peppers got around rookie Greg Robinson and walloped Bradford from the blindside. (Robinson started at left tackle before moving to left guard later.)

    Was Fisher wincing at the sight of Peppers moving in like a shark about devour its prey?

    “No, no,” Fisher said. “Sam’s taken a lot of hits in his young career in the pocket. He pops up and goes. His injury (against Carolina) was completely different. He was out of the pocket, he was on the boundary. It was something weird that happened.”

    Bradford did pop up quickly, as if almost telling the crowd and the coaching: Nothing to see here. I’m fine; totally fine.

    “I think it was good for everyone to see,” Bradford said. “I’m gonna take hits this year, and I’m gonna get up. That’s what I’ve done in the past. But to get that first hit under my belt and know that everything’s gonna be OK, it was a big relief.”

    Other than Bradford’s play — and the play of Quick and Kendricks — there wasn’t much to get excited about Saturday. On offense, the Rams couldn’t budge the line of scrimmage in the running game.

    Starter Zac Stacy had only six yards on six carries while the starting offense was on the field, albeit a starting unit missing starters Jake Long at left tackle and Rodger Saffold at right guard.

    “The Packers’ front seven is pretty good, pretty athletic,” Stacy said. “So they made plays. The main thing is just we want to keep improving. We know what we’re capable of in the running game and the passing game.”

    On the other side of the ball, Rodgers toyed with the Rams’ defense, completing 11 of 13 passes for 128 yards in his two series, leading the Packers to a touchdown and a field goal.

    For the newcomers on the St. Louis defense, they got a taste of what it’s like to play an elite quarterback. Rodgers bought time with his feet when needed, and as is almost always the case, displayed pinpoint accuracy.

    Rookie nickel back Lamarcus Joyner struggled to keep up. On the Packers’ opening drive, Joyner appeared to get tangled up in the end zone while Rodgers avoided the rush by moving the pocket to the right. He then rifled a strike to Randall Cobb in the back of the end zone for a three-yard touchdown pass on 2nd-and-goal.

    “I’ve just got to work my scrambling technique,” Joyner said. “If the quarterback gets out of the pocket you’ve got to plaster (stay with) your guy. I kind of had a mental error. That’s something we can correct.”

    Nonetheless, Joyner was grateful for the experience.

    “With a guy like Aaron Rodgers running the offense, he’s pretty much the commander-in-chief of that offense,” he said. “They go at his pace.”

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    A humbled Austin looks for better things in 2014
    • By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/a-humbled-austin-looks-for-better-things-in/article_b7906bb2-99a9-504d-bd10-bde9764528ff.html

    English was a second language for wide receiver Tavon Austin when it came to understanding the Rams’ playbook in 2013.

    Although things got better as his rookie season progressed, Austin said there were times when he felt like it was written in Spanish.

    “It definitely was hard in the beginning last year,” Austin said. “Toward the middle and the end (of the season) I probably started picking up on it. That’s when I started having some big games. But for the most part, it’s all about the mental game, getting comfortable. I believe I’m comfortable now.”

    After a full offseason in the conditioning program, the OTA sessions in June, and now three weeks into training camp, Austin says he’s back to reading English.

    “Yeah. Definitely,” he said, grinning. “It’s exactly what I speak now.”

    In college at West Virginia, the playbook was thinner and the play calls were shorter. In fact, Austin said most of the plays were called via signals with the Mountaineers.

    Those playbook struggles, combined with a high ankle sprain that caused him to miss the final three games, made it a so-so season in Austin’s mind. The No. 8 overall draft pick in 2013 gave himself a ‘C’ grade for his rookie campaign. Average.

    “That’s just me talking because I know what I can do, and I know I can do better,” he said. “I wasn’t comfortable last year, so it’s all about me getting back in my state of mind, getting comfortable, and hopefully I’ll get some big plays.”

    The big plays started coming over the second half of the season. The dam burst in Game 10, a 38-8 dismantling of the Indianapolis Colts, with Austin returning a punt 98 yards for a touchdown and catching TD passes of 57 and 81 yards.

    The following week in a 42-21 thrashing of Chicago, Austin scored on a 65-yard rushing play. And then late in the third quarter of a 30-10 lost cause at Arizona in Game 13, Austin raced 56 yards on a non-scoring run to the Cardinals’ 4-yard line. But that’s where the big plays stopped, and where Austin’s season ended, because he suffered the ankle injury on that play.

    The injury made the rookie year even tougher for him to swallow because Austin was as durable as they come in college, high school, even little league. He just doesn’t miss practices or miss games despite his small frame (5-8, 176).

    “It definitely hurt that I missed those three games,” Austin said. “But everything happens for a reason. It taught me to be humble. It taught me to be patient. That’s the two top things that stuck with me through that whole process.”

    The injury ended Austin’s first NFL season at 40 catches for 418 yards and four touchdowns. He had nine carries for 151 yards and a TD; 398 yards on kickoff returns; and 280 yards and a score on punt returns.

    It all added up to 1,247 all-purpose yards, good for fourth among NFL rookies in 2013 behind Minnesota’s Cordarrelle Patterson (1,862), Green Bay’s Eddie Lacy (1,435) and Pittsburgh’s Le’Veon Bell (1,259). Minus the ankle injury, Austin should’ve easily finished second behind Patterson.

    Nonetheless, Austin felt he should’ve done more, studied more, produced more.

    “Definitely, because I know what I can do for the team,” he said. “That’s what it all boils down to. I’m probably my biggest critic. At the end of the day, I’m gonna keep on grinding myself until I know I’ve had a successful season.”

    Austin hasn’t been as noticeable on the practice field this camp as teammates Stedman Bailey, Kenny Britt and Brian Quick. He had a couple of drops Monday but bounced back Tuesday with some impressive catches in traffic. (The team had a special teams only practice Wednesday.)

    “We just have to give him the ball,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “Give him the ball in space, because we all know what he can do with it. And so we’re doing some different things. Probably won’t show a whole lot in the preseason but I’ve very pleased with where he’s at right now.”

    Yes, the Rams are planning to expand Austin’s role in terms of where they line him up and what they do with him. They can expose him to more of the playbook because he has a better grasp of it entering his second year.

    “Being able to move him around in different spots, he’s got a lot on his plate,” wide receivers coach Ray Sherman said.

    The best part of Austin’s game is running fast and making people miss with his quickness. An improved grasp of the playbook greatly helps the cause, because it’s hard to play fast if you’re not sure about the play call, or where you’re supposed to go, or what you’re seeing after the snap.

    Austin was on the field for only 19 offensive plays last Friday in the preseason opener against New Orleans and had a modest three catches for 20 yards. So it was difficult to gauge his progress, or lack thereof, in that game.

    But quarterback Sam Bradford likes what he’s seen of Austin on the practice field.

    “You can see that he’s playing so much faster than he was last year,” Bradford said. “Being in the second year of the offense, I think he feels a lot more comfortable with what he’s being asked to do. I don’t think he’s thinking as much, and you really see his speed come out in the way that he’s playing right now.”

    And a speedy Austin should be a big-play Austin.

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    As usual, the initial reviews I read before watching the game were totally different from the game I saw . . . but they got closer to what I saw after a day or so.

    Of course there was no gameplanning, 1 starter on the D line playing, and 0 of our top 3 CBs. Also, the biggest thing, JL, the General of our defense was not on field to make the calls . .. I am pretty sure thats why we were a step late in our run fits.

    The Good

    1) Aaron Donald was putting on a show . . . his ability to get through around and under starting O linemen was pretty stunning. The opposing coaches are going to have to design run plays with him in mind, because he’s coming through one way or another on most plays it looks like. I put his TFL over under at 20 (including sacks) . . .Donald has the hard part down. The hand play, strength and speed. He will need scheme help in our defense to not take himself out of plays, but thats on GW to ensure

    2) G Rob is a freak. He has excellent balance, and seems to be setting up just fine for passing plays . . inside and outside (though outside he was against 2nd teamers). His drive blocking and ability to shoot out to the next level was pretty insane . . he didn’t look like it was more of a physical challenge then college, though the game was moving faster for him, that was obvious.

    3) EJ Gaines was what I expected. Professional and ready to play at this level. He was a tackler in the SEC, and he forced 2 fumbles during the game. He was patient. there was a play where Michael Sam was giving chase and the QB was rolling out . . Gaines didn’t play to the ball until the QB let it go, ensuring he got the breakup, no first down, and no PI. That was pretty savvy. If you can make the team in one PS game, I figure he did it. The play aginst the fullback on the goal line sealed it for me.

    4) Tavon looks really comfortable. He seems to be running his routes at a different speed.

    5) Stedman Bailey is really a quality receiver. The back shoulder TD showcased his body intelligence. As he started making his turn to get the ball, he gave the defender a light tap on the shoulder, BUT DID NOT EXTEND HIS ARM. He got the push off with no Offensive PI by doing that. That was pretty awesome.

    6) Our TE group is pretty impressive and specialized. Harkey is impressive and rumbling boulder of a person, Kendricks has gotten so smooth in his routes I no longer hold my breathe when he rolls out for the ball. Bayer is ready to play. He was more showcased at Bowling Green than any other receiver (except maybe Gallon), so he’s used to having the ball come his way…. he makes the final 53. If Kendricks leaves he’ll likely be the replacement. He has a good tool set.

    7) Emory Blake and Austin Franklin made cases for themselves. If not here, then somewhere. Franklin’s route running is special.

    8) Michael Sam looked better than Westbrooks . . which I was not expecting. Guess the stage kinda scared him. Between the D line and the DBs, Im not sure we keep everyone, maybe we can trade rather than just cutting, but I want to keep 10 DBs and 10 Dline.

    9) Pettis is going to be tough to cut.

    10) Zac Stacy was a vision. He makes his cuts so effortlessly with those ballerina feet. I think many do not give him credit for how hard he hits the hole. Tre Mason may have better lateral agility . . but he is not the runner that Benny or Zac is yet. I think besides KC, we have the best running attack in football (I am counting Tavon). I picked Cunningham as my surprise player this year. He does not have the feet or vision to get 7 yards where there is only 3 like Zac does, but he has the ability to breakaway if the D makes a mistake, and I believe we will see it couple times this year.

    11) The young LBs fared fine, and I really like them blitzing Steward.

    12) Joyner isn’t going to have any trouble tackling at his size.

    13) The backup QBs are an upgrade for sure. [Gilbert]…I thought showed poise and calm I was not expecting. He has a solid throwing motion that will give him an edge when he gets flustered. Overall I scored him pretty high. Want to see more though.

    The not so good.

    14) Givens may wash out this year. He is not dynamic or trustworthy.

    15) Barnes upset me a couple times. He may practice well, but I am going to be stunned if Barrett Jones cannot take his spot.

    16) Cody Davis is going to have a hard time. He is playing kinda francic, and if he misses tackles like that he wont make the team.

    17) Jo-Lonn Dunbar is too old to miss tackling high.

    18) Carrington, Conrath, etc . . . no push. Carrington did get through one play and then didnt have the burst to get to the ball carrier.

    didn;t see too much from the safeties, they seemed to be playing deep like Williams likes. TJ covered Graham pretty well at the start of the game, and Mo showed up at the back end of plays . . and showed up bringing heat. he also impressed me by pulling up short of a roughing call on a receiver.

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    It was ridiculously easy for NO to run the ball.I recognize that our starters at DT didn’t play, and it was the rotation guys mainly. But it was like they’d never been blocked before and didn’t know what to do.I saw Donald get engulfed several times. Our LBs didn’t hold up. Again, I realize who played and who didn’t. But just terrible tackling and run support. Again, can’t seem to get off blocks.

    TE Cunningham simply doesn’t belong. Hands of stone, too much time on the ground, misses blocks.

    Is it me, or does some our 2nd string Oline look anorexic?

    I think Blake or Harris can beat out Pettis this year. They have more speed, and while Pettis is good in the red zone, with our TEs and Brit and Quick we have plenty of size. I just don’t think he’s gonna make it. But he’ll play somewhere.

    I didn’t think either starting Safety was particularly effective.

    Positives:

    GRob played LG and LT and did quite well on both. Made a few mistakes that were easily seen, but physically could move his man at Guard, and handled pass rushers well enough at LT.

    Hill is a great pick up at backup QB. Very good command of the huddle, the plays, and is accurate and confident in where he’s throwing it. Takes calculated risks and throws 50/50 balls trusting our WRs to make the play. Looks to throw downfield. Garrett looked like a rookie, and Austin looked like he had 3 training camps. Nonetheless Garrett is more talented than Austin. But I have to believe that he’s a PS guy. Hard to imagine that they use one of the precious 53 spots on him.

    That said, our WRs looked a lot more like NFL WRs. Ball awareness, position, making plays when contetested.

    Bailey is going to be outstanding this year.

    Austin in space can get us 5 yards anytime we want it, and is versatile.

    Not enough of Quick or Brit to tell much of anything.

    Mason got his sea legs and started to look like he was playing at Auburn.

    If Cunningham isn’t Stacy’s backup I’ll eat my hat. Tough little sucker who knows what he’s doing.

    TE Bayer is a keeper. Soft hands, runs good routes, just looks the part of a good all around TE. I have little doubt that barring injury our TE corps is Cook, Kendricks, the underrated Harkey, and Bayer.

    I watched with interest an obscure DT named Harlan; really like what I saw. Not real big (yet), reminded me a lot of Hayes.

    It was clear that only sometimes did GW ask for tight coverage; and when he did EJ Gaines looked quite good. Alexander has no idea what he’s doing but when he arrives, he makes plays. Joyner was up and down, but man can he close and when he gets there the size of the guy he’s tackling just doesn’t much matter.

    Yeah, lots of errors, flags, etc. But no fumbles, no INTs by the Rams. Saw some guys who looked overmatched, but also have to accept that this is preseason, many were rookies or 2nd year guys, and everything was pretty vanilla.

    I would NOT want to be some of the front 7 back-ups this week; GW is going to be brutal on them.

    I also would not be surprised to see the Rams pick up a vet OT cast off. They look scary thin there. It’s not the best situation when your back up OT is your starting RG, and then your starting LG. You need to be able to insert a bench guy at OT if a guy goes down even for part of a game. You need to be able to dress a C/G and an OT or OT/G on game day. And as of yet I just don’t see a development guy that can be trusted. But, admittedly, it is early.

    I never thought Fisher intended to roll back the clock. Rather I see him taking the NE approach. Pass and run with equal efficiency, adjusting your game for the opponent, and then understanding the pass scores points, the run controls the clock and prevents the D from just pinning their ears back and rushing the passer. But the run game HAS to be real. Because the D will then just take away the pass and let you run yourself silly knowing that the odds are you’ll cough the ball up in the 12 plays it takes to get to the goal line.

    In watching the routes run by the Rams last night, they were intermediate and deep for the WOs. Used the slot and TEs underneath mostly.

    This isn’t going to be 3 yards and a cloud of dust. If it was, Kendricks, Cook, Austin, Bailey, Givens, are all bad fits. And the Rams have been too deliberate to just throw darts at the board.

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    Rams Preview: Defense Might Not Be Enough

    Injuries forced St. Louis to change approaches on offense last season, and recent personnel moves indicate a unit still searching for an identity. Can a monstrous defensive line hold down the fort in the NFL’s toughest division?

    By Andy Benoit

    http://mmqb.si.com/2014/08/07/st-louis-rams-2014-preview-nfl/

    OFFENSE

    What, exactly, are the Rams trying to be? Right now, they’re a team with an identity crisis. Last year, head coach Jeff Fisher and GM Les Snead used the eighth overall pick on Tavon Austin and signed free agent flex tight end Jared Cook for a $16 million signing bonus. Both moves were significant investments in a quick-striking spread offense—like the one quarterback Sam Bradford thrived in at Oklahoma.

    But Bradford and his receivers struggled mightily in a spread scheme out of the gates last year. To alleviate the pressure, offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer incorporated more basic, run-oriented—even smash mouth—concepts in Weeks 5 and 6. The adjustment worked.

    Then Bradford tore his ACL in Week 7 and, with backup Kellen Clemens at the helm and needing to be hidden, the adjustment became permanent. Aside from a few 3 x 2 sets in passing situations, the Rams abandoned an aerial attack that too often was restricted to underneath targets anyway (the quarterbacks’ fault, not the play-caller’s). They committed to a ball control approach, led by fifth-round rookie running back Zac Stacy.

    One might have chalked this up to the Rams just making due with the resources they had. But this past offseason, with everyone healthy, Fisher and Snead used the second overall pick on Greg Robinson. If you’re a spread offense that gets the ball out quickly and in space, it doesn’t make sense to invest heavily in a mauling offensive lineman, especially if you already have a good (and pricey) veteran left tackle like Jake Long. This sort of investment would, however, make sense if you’re a grinding offense that wants to keep running “power” and “counter” inside, like the Rams did a year ago. But in this case, where does last year’s first-rounder fit? The Robinson selection almost directly contradicts the Austin selection. There’s a role somewhere for Austin in a traditional black and blue offense, but it’s miniscule and hard to pinpoint. Austin is a guy who needs to be on the move and given the ball in space. This is hard to do out of traditional two-back, run-type sets. In those, you feature more play-action passes and isolation routes on the outside, requiring receivers to create their own separation off the line. That’s very difficult for the 5-8, 175-pound Austin.

    Separating from man coverage was actually difficult for this entire receiving corps last season. That won’t suddenly change in 2014, so Schottenheimer is going to have to incorporate more intertwined man-beater concepts like the ones he ran with the low-octane Jets a few years ago. He at least has a deep cast, though it’s one that’s bereft of clear-cut starters. Austin Pettis is Bradford’s security blanket, but the lanky fourth-year pro is not quite a playmaker. The speedy, long-striding Chris Givens can make plays but is constricted by unrefined route running. Brian Quick, a second-round pick in 2012, needs to be used more, but that can’t happen if he fails to haul in catchable balls or stays too upright in running downfield routes. Last year’s third-round pick, Stedman Bailey, has made slow progress in carving out a niche; a four-game suspension to begin the season won’t help. And newcomer Kenny Britt, because of knee problems, is a shell of his former self.

    Schottenheimer also has Jared Cook at tight end. Cook is at his best in spread sets where he can detach from the formation and draw matchups against linebackers. In a power running system, he is asked to play more along the line of scrimmage, where his blocking is very inconsistent. Joining Cook is move-oriented tight end Lance Kendricks plus H-back Cory Harkey, who was a stalwart lead-blocker for Stacy last season.

    The drafting of running back Tre Mason in Round 3 was similar to the Robinson pick in that it suggests a commitment to a power running offense. Though built like Giovani Bernard at 5-8, 205 pounds, Mason has the potential to be a foundational type back, capable of ramming the ball inside. The Rams won’t ask him to do that fulltime, though, at least not right away. Most likely, Mason will complement Stacy, who could be difficult to take off the field. Stacy’s 3.9 yards per carry last season doesn’t look impressive on paper, but the low average was partly a function of how a power running offense operates. On film, Stacy was intriguing, showing lateral agility and quick feet in confined areas and having the downhill momentum to keep moving forward on contact.

    Stacy and Mason will be working behind Robinson, a future tackle who is transitioning into the NFL at left guard. Robinson couldn’t ask for a better player to learn alongside than Jake Long, who stood out as a run-blocker and pass protector last season before tearing his ACL and MCL two days before Christmas. The seventh-year veteran is said to be fully recovered. To Robinson’s right is 11th-year center Scott Wells, creating a sandwich of veteran wisdom around the rookie. On the right side, tackle Joe Barksdale lacks the athleticism to hold up in pass protection, but the Rams are content to gamble with him because they want Rodger Saffold to play guard. When he wasn’t hurt, Saffold flashed in the running game last year. The Rams did make provisions in case he has to slide back to right tackle, signing Davin Joseph, a former Pro Bowl guard in Tampa Bay whose career has been derailed by injuries.

    Conducting this show is Bradford, whom the Rams insist is Their Guy. Though Bradford has two years remaining on a rookie deal that’s keeping his cap number in the mid teens (very reasonable for a starting QB), this is a make-or-break year for him. Injuries were a problem coming out of Oklahoma, and that’s remained the case in the pros (torn ACL last year, ankle injury two years before that).

    What system the Rams ultimately run this year largely will be a function of what Bradford is most comfortable with. He has the arm strength and pinpoint accuracy to prosper in any scheme. His problem has been a lack of pocket poise coupled with tunnel vision. There have been too many instances where he gets impatient and doesn’t see the entire field. Those are crippling weaknesses for an NFL quarterback.

    The Rams don’t need Bradford to be a superstar. In fact, they quietly went 4-3 without him down the stretch, with wins over the Colts, Saints and playoff-contending Bears. But they do need Bradford to become dependable. Otherwise they’ll have to ask too much of their potentially spectacular defense.

    DEFENSE

    What makes this unit potentially spectacular is a defensive line that, heading into the draft, may have already been the best in football. It certainly was coming out of it, as the Rams were pleasantly surprised to find defensive tackle Aaron Donald still on the board when picking again at 13. With that selection, this officially became the NFL’s only D-line to boast four former first-round picks.
    In order to reach their full potential on defense, the Rams need linebacker James Laurinaitis and Alec Ogletree to play better against the run. (Jeff Roberson/AP)In order to reach their full potential on defense, the Rams need linebacker James Laurinaitis and Alec Ogletree to play better against the run. (Jeff Roberson/AP)

    Donald will work alongside Michael Brockers (drafted 14th overall in 2012) and ahead of two outstanding backups, Kendall Langford and Eugene Sims (who can also play defensive end). Tremendously strong hands and a burst off contact make Brockers one of the most thunderous block-shedders in the game. It helps that he faces a lot of one-on-one scenarios playing alongside Robert Quinn (14th in 2011). Quinn is far and away the most terrifying edge-rusher in the game right now. Opposite him is Chris Long (second overall in 2008), whose speed and quickness have gradually climbed from average to solid to impressive over his career.

    Last year’s defensive coordinator Tim Walton did an excellent job at creating one-on-one opportunities for his pass rushers through a variety of different fronts. Two prominent wrinkles were having Quinn align inside, where he was equally as explosive, and using two three-techniques on passing downs, which compromises a lot of an offensive line’s double-team concepts and is a great way to set up stunts.

    Walton, unfortunately, did not excel in other areas and got replaced this past offseason by Gregg Williams, whom Fisher had originally hired upon arriving in St. Louis two years ago, just prior to Williams’s Bountygate suspension. Williams’s scheme will be similar to Walton’s in pass-rushing alignments and the zone-based coverage concepts that Fisher likes. What’ll be different are the wrinkles of aggression, something Williams typically applies on blitzes. But with such a lethal front, he will now apply more to coverage disguises and rotations.

    The question is whether St. Louis’s young back seven can handle this. Middle linebacker James Laurinaitis has evolved into a savvy vet, but there’s little evidence that he can carry a unit Ray Lewis-style. It’s disconcerting that, even with a domineering front four, the Rams last season were gouged repeatedly on the ground, especially by zone rushing attacks. While the safety run support was never great, there has to be some blame on Laurinaitis’s linebacking unit.

    Working alongside Laurinaitis is the back seven defender with the most to learn but also the one with the most upside: Alec Ogletree. The second-year pro has rare speed and fluidity but must figure out how to recognize even basic NFL offensive designs. Physically, Ogletree is clearly this defense’s most versatile chess piece; it will be fascinating to see how Williams uses him.

    In the secondary are third-year corners Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson, both of whom had first-round talent entering the NFL but respectively fell to Rounds 2 and 3 because of character concerns. Jenkins has playmaking prowess as long as his confidence does not waiver. Johnson has shown the ability to transition from zone to man coverage on the outside, which is vital for excelling in a single-high safety base defense.

    To rectify the team’s problems in nickel, Fisher and Snead drafted Lamarcus Joyner in the second round. The 5-8, 185-pounder can fill the slot and, based on his experience at Florida State, has the potential to drop back to safety in the base 4-3 (a la Tyrann Mathieu in Arizona). In that case he’d be supplanting free safety Rodney McLeod, who has also played the slot in certain sub-packages. At strong safety is T.J. McDonald, a straight-line athlete who covers ground quickly thanks to his length. To back up—or maybe eventually challenge—McDonald, the Rams used a fourth-round pick on hard-hitting converted linebacker Mo Alexander.

    SPECIAL TEAMS

    After going 7 of 13 on 50-plus-yard field goals in 2012, Greg Zuerlein was asked to kick from that deep just twice last year (he made one). Punter Johnny Hekker set an NFL record with a 44.2 net average. In the return game, Tavon Austin was up and down as a rookie but found his lethal rhythm as the season progressed.

    BOTTOM LINE

    If the Rams played in the NFC East, they’d be a dark horse contender because of their defense. But unfortunately they’re in the loaded NFC West, where San Francisco and Seattle have even better defenses plus and—here’s the real separation—the offenses to go along with it.

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    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-notes-first-preseason-game-will-help-gauge-defense-pd/%5D Rams Notes: First Preseason Game Will Help Gauge Defense –PD
    With their dress rehearsal at the Edward Jones Dome — Saturday’s FanFest workout — completed, the Rams now will turn their attention to preparing for their first game action of the preseason. They host the New Orleans Saints at 7 p.m. Friday.

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    Bailey shines but will disappear in September

    • By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/bailey-shines-but-will-disappear-in-september/article_0d6d1e28-169e-54c2-899c-84b88838c97b.html

    Stedman Bailey learned to be patient last season as a rookie, and the start of this season will be no different.

    Despite a stellar college career at West Virginia, Bailey participated in only four plays at wide receiver through his first eight NFL games in 2013. He didn’t have a pass thrown his way by a quarterback until Game 9 against Tennessee.

    (Punter Johnny Hekker missed connections on a throw Bailey’s way on a fake punt in Game 3.)

    It wasn’t until the final five games that Bailey saw appreciable playing time at wide receiver, including starts at Arizona and Seattle. He had 15 catches for 195 yards over that five-game stretch, showing enough promise that he figured to be a starter — or at least a strong contender for a starting position in 2014.

    Then came that four-game NFL suspension for violating league policy on performance-enhancing substances. Once the preseason ends, Bailey won’t be seen again until mid-October — the Rams’ Monday night home game against San Francisco on the 13th to be exact.

    Which is a shame for the Rams because Bailey looks like he’s poised for a breakout season based on his practice performance in the first week and a half of training camp.

    “Yes, we’ll miss him,” coach Jeff Fisher said following Saturday’s FanFest practice at the Edward Jones Dome. “But he’s gonna push right through camp and will get through his ordeal, and we’ll get him right back in the lineup.”

    Along with Kenny Britt and Brian Quick, Bailey has been the most impressive pass-catcher thus far in camp. Saturday in the dome was no different, when he was quarterback Sam Bradford’s favorite target during 11-on-11, 2-minute, and red zone periods.

    “Sted made a lot of plays,” Fisher said. “He knows how to get open and knows how to make the plays.”

    Despite the suspension, Bailey is allowed to practice and play in all four preseason games. But that all stops once the preseason ends. The leaves will be turning and folks will be shopping for their Halloween pumpkins by the time Bailey returns.

    “It’s something that kills me every time I think about it,” Bailey said. “But my job is to compete, work hard, keep giving my all to the team, and when I come back just be looking for a show.”

    He put on a show Saturday, showcasing his separation skills and good hands before 15,723 spectators.

    During the first 11-on-11 period, Bailey caught intermediate-range passes from Bradford over the middle and down the sideline. Later in practice, he had a gain of 20-plus yards on a deep out, and then another during 2-minute drill when he split two defenders down the left sideline. His day ended with a touchdown catch, also during the 2-minute.

    “Stedman’s been great all camp, all spring,” Bradford said. “I think he’s gonna be a big part of what we do when he gets back.

    “Obviously, it’s a bummer that he’s not gonna be with us the first four (games), but when he comes back the timing and everything that we’re doing right now is to make sure we’re ready when he does get back.”

    Which explains why Bradford keeps throwing the ball Bailey’s way, and why Bailey keeps getting reps with the first-string offense in camp.

    “It actually makes me feel really good that they have the confidence in me to keep me out there, keep me getting reps with the ‘1s,’ “ Bailey said. “Once I come back, hopefully I can get back in the rotation and help this team out.”

    But why not work Bailey less during camp and the preseason since he won’t be around in September, letting others get more work?

    For one, the Rams are thinking long-term on this, namely the 12 games Bailey will be on the field after the suspension. Even more important is the need to build chemistry with Bradford.

    Keep in mind, Bailey didn’t have one pass thrown his way by Bradford during the 2013 regular season. By the time Bailey started playing, Bradford was gone for the year with his knee injury in Game 7 at Carolina.

    Even in practice, Bailey barely worked with Bradford before the injury because Bailey was so far down the depth chart. So the two were basically a blank page until workouts this June.

    All of which explains why Bailey was among a handful of pass-catchers Bradford invited to his home in Norman, Okla., to work for a couple of days during the Rams’ summer break.

    Having Bailey in Norman “was huge,” Bradford said. “Especially knowing that we were gonna spend (four) weeks without him. I think those two days with him in Norman were probably even more valuable than with some of the other guys, making sure that we had everything down before he’s gonna leave the building.”

    For the most part, Bradford and Bailey look very much in sync, but a couple of plays Saturday showed there’s still room for improvement.

    On one play, Bailey didn’t adjust to a blitz on a deep route. Hoping Bailey recognized the pressure and cut short his route, Bradford threw an underneath ball that landed harmlessly on the turf with nobody near.

    On another deep sideline pattern, Bailey was bracketed by two defenders to his inside. Seeing that, Bradford threw the ball to the open spaces outside, but Bailey recognized where the ball was going too late to get there.

    Even so, Bailey says, “The game’s slowed down a whole lot for me. I know what I’m doing, whereas I don’t have to think and then go play. I know exactly what I’m doing, so I can just showcase my talents and just go play ball.”

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    William Hayes working back from surgeries
    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/10101/william-hayes-working-back-from-surgeries

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Although you’d hardly know it based on how he’s performed since he started playing for the St. Louis Rams in 2012, but defensive end William Hayes has been hurt.

    Hayes assumed the nagging pain and the bumps and bruises he’d accumulated in his first two seasons with the team were nothing more than soft tissue injuries, the types of things that would go away with some offseason rest and relaxation. He waited through the 2013 offseason and it never happened. So when this offseason began, he decided to get further inspection.

    What Hayes and the doctors found wasn’t pretty. So he went to coach Jeff Fisher, who told him to get it fixed. The result was Hayes spending most of January and February having surgeries. Yes, surgeries, plural.

    Hayes started with collarbone and ankle operations before turning to a more serious issue, surgery on a hip that had been bothering him for his entire stay in St. Louis. The procedures kept Hayes out for all of the team’s organized team activities and had him sitting in the early days of training camp.

    Last week, Hayes began to get back in the mix for individual drills. On Thursday night, Hayes took a bigger step as he returned for a handful of team drills and some work in one-on-one pass rush drills.

    “This offseason was more about getting myself healthy,” Hayes said. “The past few years I have been playing pretty hurt. I wanted to be able to come in and really help my team this year so I wanted to maximize the chance to get my body back super healthy and I did good. The training staff did a great job. They did an excellent job. We just grinded it out. This is probably the best I’ve felt since my second season in the NFL.”

    For those keeping score at home, Hayes’ second season was all the way back in 2009.

    The Rams also did their part to help alleviate some of Hayes’ workload. He’s been a key contributor as the top backup at defensive end, especially on running downs, but had the added workload of coming in as an interior pass-rusher on third downs. The team’s pursuit of free agent tackles Alex Carrington and the choice of Aaron Donald with the No. 13 overall pick were moves made in part to help ease Hayes’ burden.

    In his two seasons in St. Louis, Hayes has posted 63 tackles, 12 sacks, three fumble recoveries and an interception while playing just 685 snaps. He’s become one of the best rotational defensive linemen in the league and is viewed as one of the emotional leaders in the locker room.

    Simply having Hayes and offensive tackle Jake Long, who is recovering from knee surgery, back on the field is enough to bring a smile to Fisher’s face.

    “It was great to have William and Jake back,” Fisher said Thursday night. “They’ve been working hard, we are just going to ease them back into it. No issues today so we’ll get some more reps tomorrow but it’s good to get them back. They’re both excited.”

    Beyond getting the operations needed to come back healthy in 2014, Hayes was diligent about the offseason workouts he could do, trimming his weight from 286 pounds to what he estimates is between 275 and 278 pounds. He spent most of his offseason in St. Louis working with the team’s training staff but also made sure to have trainers available for trips home to North Carolina and out to New York.

    And though Hayes hasn’t been able to practice, he has made a habit of getting extra reps when he can before and after workouts with right tackle Joe Barksdale there to assist.

    The plan from here is to continue working Hayes in and getting him reps when possible. He’s hoping to get some work in the preseason games, reps he says he wants to get so he doesn’t feel like he’s playing his way back into shape when the season starts.

    “It did wonders for me after I got it (the surgery),” Hayes said. “I felt better the day after I got it than I did during the season. It’s a process I’m going through right now. The hardest part is just being able to be patient, trying to beg for reps every day. It’s a process.”

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    QB-Sam Bradford took all of the usual reps a #1 would take. He has a knee brace but it is smaller and less bulky than I expected. His movement seems okay and footwork was not compromised.

    He had some really nice passes, one deep out to Britt in particular early on in 7 on 7. However on passes where the receiver ran from side to side and cleared when he came out of the middle Sam clearly had a lot of trouble with his timing and missed almost all of those. There were also two picks up the seam where it looked like he was expecting the receiver to break off and square in. It was either a mis read, not being on the same page or communication problem. What really bothered me on both is that first Bailey and then Givens failed to either fight back for the ball, adjust or make any kind of play on the ball.

    The defense definitely looked ahead of the offense in shells.

    Hill hit Emory Blake a receiver out of Auburn that was both in camp last year and the practice squad on a really nice timing route early on in practice. To his credit he looks like he has a stronger arm than Clemons and is more patient in the pocket.

    Gilbert has some footwork problems especially at the top of his drop, he tends to hop, and shuffle his feet and doesn’t transition smoothly into his release. But the ball does come out quickly and accurately and he has some zip. He apparently missed a read early in 7 on 7 and got chewed on pretty good by the QB coach Frank Cignetti.

    Austin Davis seemed to have some promise as a rookie and has totally squandered it, very inaccurate and has gone from a #2 hopeful to camp fodder.

    RB-They were in shells and its hard to get any kind of reading on them from that. Stacy was taking reps with the punt return unit and I doubt he stays there.

    Tre Mason has quick feet in drills and a bit of a pop for his size

    WR/TE-If I had to pick one standout it would be Britt with Quick a close second. I understand all the skepticism over Quick and I share but he stayed low on his cuts and didn’t present such an easy target and even caught a pass in traffic with hands waving all around him. What I saw in Quick last year was that any time a linebacker or corner could jump into his vision and distract him he would drop it….today they tried to do that and he caught it. I make no claims any further than that but………

    Quick and Britt went everywhere together, the Rams showed a package with Cook, Kendricks and Quick and Britt. I really hope that package works and prospers. Bailey and Givens both failed to fight back or even make an attempt on a pair of interceptions.

    Harkey ran a nice route to the flat and Davis underthrew him badly early only to come right back to him and get a good catch.

    Cook got a lot of one-one attention both before practice and after. They were lobbing him a tennis ball back and forth early and he had a coach in his pocket all day long.

    Emory Blake flashed at times last year and did today as well.

    A tight end named Justice Cunningham a 1st year player out of South Carolina got a lot of reps and was called out by the coaches several times, long dreads and some quicks over the middle. He only goes 258 but has some promise.

    Oline-Scott Wells was in a ball cap and stayed on the sidelines most of the day. The Oline went to the sand pit at one point and Jake Long did take part in some of those drills.

    I have never witnessed the Rams do this uphill drill where two linemen are pushed up a hill by one guy. I took several pictures of it and they did it right in front of me. The size and strength of those guys is incredible that close.

    GRob took reps at LT in team drills but then toward the end of practice they shifted to the rookies battling one-one at the far end of the field. He moved inside and went against Aaron Donald. Donald whipped him badly on the first rep. I always want to see a kid learn from that and he did and countered very well and stymied Donald on the second.. I hope to see Donald take some reps at tackle in that drill tomorrow.

    DLine-For the most part it is still wide 9 but they do bring down the DE on the strong side on some fronts and keep the weak side DE out wide.

    They have the ability to really mess with itty bitty QB’s in Seattle with Carrington, Brockers, Conrath and even Hayes in the middle.

    Except for the one time that Donald was stalemated by GRob he had his way with the camp fodder in the line drills. He even bull rushed Demetrius Rhaney out of Tennessee State at one point and shoved him all the way back to what would have been the QB

    Linebackers-Ogletree had an exceptional play in 11 on 11 in pass defense undercutting route with a great drop and tipping it away. From what I have heard Gregg Williams loves above all others Alec Ogletree and TJ McDonald. I have been able to meet a couple of new Rams staffers and all are raving about Williams

    DBacks-Brandon McGee had a great play early and then got ripped into later by Brandon Fisher when he blew a coverage, at least he did not look lost like last year.

    I have hopes still for Matt Daniels and he looked really good in the special teams drills early on, numbers seem to stack against him though.

    Maurice Alexander and Marcus Roberson look athletic and fluid. They are two I really want to see in pads.

    Joyner back pedals like a corner and has flips his hips smoothly to pursue.

    Special Teams-They have a camp punter named Bobby Cowan………

    At some point Daren Bates did something to really piss off the coaches, it was away from me and I did not get a good look at it. I heard rather than saw that Britt was doing some jawing with the defense and some of the coaches…..which is all the better.

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    Rams rookie DT Aaron Donald shares his appreciation for working alongside veterans Chris Long and Robert Quinn throughout the offseason.

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    Greg Robinson talks about his familiarity of the playbook, preparing for training camp and adjusting to the speed of the game.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/Robinson-Its-a-head-start/82b946a2-9edf-4cb8-9e32-dfcb08683e4d

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    No summer vacation for first-rounders Robinson, Donald

    • By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/no-summer-vacation-for-first-rounders-robinson-donald/article_8a3a8f47-04dd-5133-bebf-39fb60987cbf.html

    Among the Rams’ 2014 draft class, seventh-rounder Michael Sam has garnered more headlines than anyone because of the history-making nature of his quest to become the first openly-gay player to make an NFL regular-season roster.

    But when all is said and done, first-rounders Greg Robinson and Aaron Donald will have much more to say about the success of the Rams this season and beyond.

    And after the traditional NFL summer break following the conclusion of practices in June, offensive lineman Robinson and defensive tackle Donald reported for training camp this week raring to go.

    As is the case with most NFL players, there really wasn’t much of a break during their time away from Rams Park.

    Donald said he took a grand total of three days off to relax with his family, including a brief stop in Toledo, Ohio, to visit his brother Archie.

    “I went jet-skiing,” Donald said.

    (Yes, nothing says “summer vacation” better than jet-skiing in Toledo.)

    Other than that, it was all work for Donald back in his hometown of Pittsburgh, working with a local trainer.

    “It was a lot of speed work, lot of explosive stuff,” Donald said.

    As if he needed to get any quicker.

    Donald was so impressive during workouts in June that offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer called him the team’s defensive MVP of the spring. Donald picked up where he left off during the Rams’ rookie practices Tuesday and Wednesday at Rams Park.

    To a large degree, Donald was unblockable during one-on-one pass-blocking drills Wednesday. Try as they might, a handful of reporters couldn’t get Donald to brag about himself.

    When it was playfully suggested that perhaps Wednesday’s drill was designed to let Donald through untouched, he just chuckled.

    As for the Schottenheimer remarks, Donald said: “I didn’t hear it. It’s a good thing just to see that the coaches are starting to see me on the field.”

    Oh, they see him all right, and can’t wait to have Donald take his turn in what potentially could be a formidable defensive tackle rotation. Donald’s summer work was designed to help him make the most of his opportunities once the games began.

    He did “band” work, in which he worked on his “get-off” — those first steps off the line of scrimmage with the equivalent of a huge rubber-band tied to him to provide resistance.

    “We tied it around my ankles. We tied it around my waist. We did a lot of crazy stuff,” Donald said. “Once you take (the band) off, you feel a lot faster. That’s the point of doing it.”

    Donald’s summer training regimen also included long-distance running for conditioning, and “parachute” work to help with quickness. (Like a smaller version of the parachutes used to stop high-speed jets when they land.)

    “I know we did a lot of barbaric stuff,” Donald said. “If you’d seen it, you wouldn’t believe the stuff we did.”

    As for Robinson, he did a lot of traveling over the Rams’ summer break, but it didn’t involve smoking cigars and drinking cocktails on a beach. He split his training time doing work in Oregon, Houston, Florida and his hometown of Thibodaux, La.

    Robinson’s month-long break from Rams Park began with work at a Bo Jackson Nike facility in Oregon. Next, he headed down to south Florida, where Rams rookie running back Tre Mason is from, to work out with his former Auburn teammate.

    Then came Houston to work with offensive tackle Trent Williams. a two-time Pro Bowler for Washington and former teammate of Sam Bradford at Oklahoma. Williams also was at the Nike facility, hit it off with Robinson and then invited Robinson to work out with him in Houston. Williams is a Texas native. The “facility” where Robinson and Williams worked out wasn’t one of those high-tech performance institutes.

    “It was at a junior high,” Robinson said. “We just needed the field. It was pretty cool. I learned a lot from him.”

    There was nothing fancy about the Florida workout venue with Mason, either. Robinson called it, “just a little field. … It don’t matter where you get (the workout) in, as long as you get it in.”

    Last stop in the Robinson training tour was Thibodaux.

    “When I went back home, I just did my own thing (training-wise) and did what I was instructed to do by Coach Rock,” Robinson said.

    Every Rams player leaves Rams Park for the summer break with a set of personalized instructions on what they need to work on, compliments of strength coach Rock Gullickson and the Rams’ athletic training staff.

    Overall, Robinson said, “there were a lot of different things I worked on, but it was good to just work with different people and learn from multiple people. Some of it was just doing cardio, just trying to stay in shape, and some was more offensive line drills.”

    Mentally, Robinson said his head was spinning during earlier practices, not just because of the switch to guard but also learning the playbook. Pass protection schemes can be complex in the NFL, and Auburn did very little passing while Robinson was there.

    “It was something new for me, and I did struggle,” Robinson said. “But now I’m at the point where I just stop thinking and just play. It started out kind of difficult but now I’m starting to pick up the plays a lot better.”

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    Road show prepared Rams’ Robinson for camp

    AP – Sports

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/road-show-prepared-rams-robinson-235217705–nfl.html

    ST. LOUIS (AP) — Greg Robinson didn’t stay put the month after the St. Louis Rams cut players loose in mid-June. Wherever he was, the second overall pick of the draft stayed in preparation mode for training camp.

    ”It was good to just work with different people and learn from multiple people,” Robinson said Wednesday. ”It doesn’t matter where you’re getting it in as long as you get it in.”

    The 6-foot-5, 332-pound Robinson was a key component in Auburn’s national runner-up season at left tackle and figures as immediate help at guard for the Rams (7-9).

    After OTAs ended in mid-June, Robinson worked out a bit at home in Thibodaux, La. He spent time at Bo Jackson’s Nike camp at the University of Oregon, worked out with a trainer in Miami, Fla., and got pointers from Redskins Pro Bowl tackle Trent Williams in Houston.

    Williams knows plenty about protecting Sam Bradford’s blind side, given they were Oklahoma teammates. The two met at the Nike camp.

    ”He’s a Pro Bowler so many years and he asked me to come out, so I thought it was a good idea,” Robinson said. ”It was pretty cool, I learned a lot from him.”

    With Robinson leading the way, Auburn led the nation in rushing and had two players gain 1,000 yards for just the third time in school history. He’s still blocking for Tre Mason, a Heisman Trophy finalist drafted by the Rams in the third round.

    Getting picked No. 2 has made Robinson the provider for a fractured family; his dad died in 2012 and two of his siblings have spent time in jail. Though his mother is pushing for a new house and an exit from a tough neighborhood, he’s patiently assessing options for upgrades across the board.

    One exception might be the bling earrings he sported at the second rookie workout Wednesday.

    ”I’m not budging, I’m taking my time,” Robinson said. ”I’ve been talking to a lot of people as far as homes and stuff for my mom and buying cars for myself.

    ”I have the money to do it but I’m not rushing into anything.”

    For now, the Robinson home has become a bit of a mecca. Fame and fortune can do that.

    ”Things are similar but I can see a difference, a lot of people surrounding the house and stuff like that,” Robinson said. ”It’s a great feeling that I did something positive and I inspired a lot of people.”

    Now, he said, the priority is laying a foundation for his career. His future undoubtedly is at tackle, but for now he’s trying to become more comfortable at guard.

    ”It started out kind of difficult,” Robinson said. ”But now I’m starting to pick up the plays. Now, I’m at the point where I just stop thinking and just play.”

    During the rookie workouts, Robinson often went against fellow first-rounder Aaron Donald, a defensive tackle. The two prepared for the combine working out in Arizona.

    ”We still crack a couple jokes and laugh,” Donald said. ”It’s good to get around guys like that, that I’m close to already.”

    Veterans are due to arrive Thursday and the first full-squad workout is Friday afternoon.

    NOTES: The Rams announced single-game tickets will go on sale Friday, plus a promotional schedule that includes honoring the 15th anniversary of the franchise’s lone Super Bowl championship team for the Monday night game against the 49ers on Oct. 13. There also will be Robert Quinn and James Laurinaitis bobble head giveaways.

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    Donald already impressing at Rams camp

    July, 24, 2014

    By Nick Wagoner | ESPN.com

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/9850/donald-already-impressing-at-rams-camp

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams 2014 training camp hasn’t even officially begun, but rookie defensive tackle Aaron Donald already is drawing rave reviews.

    Taking part in two practices with his rookie teammates earlier this week, Donald was an instant scene-stealer, especially when taking part in some one-on-one pass rush drills.

    During a handful of snaps in Wednesday’s workout, Donald was so quick off the ball that there were moments it looked like some of the rookie linemen were going at walk-through speed while he was going at full speed. Only No. 2 overall pick Greg Robinson seemed to have any success consistently getting his hands on Donald, though even that didn’t slow him down much.

    “We are definitely learning a lot,” Donald said. “When they say everybody in the NFL is good, so far I have been seeing that. Guys can move a lot better and once they get their hands on you, they’ve got you, so I’m just making sure I work on my technique so they can’t grab me and get their hands on me.”

    Aaron Donald has impressed the Rams coaching staff since he was drafted in the first round in May.It’s probably safe to assume that when the veterans report for the actual first day of training camp on Friday, Donald will see more linemen who do get their hands on him and more consistently serve as more than a glorified speed bump on his way to the quarterback. The true test will come not only against the veteran linemen such as Rodger Saffold and Davin Joseph, but also when the pads come on next week.

    Donald played so well during organized team activities that offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer named him one of the most impressive players on the field without solicitation. In the time since Donald departed from the offseason program, he doesn’t appear to have lost many steps.

    Donald took three days off to go jet skiing at his brother Archie’s house in Toledo, Ohio. After that, he returned to Pittsburgh for what he calls “barbaric” workouts with a personal trainer. Those workouts included daily sessions consisting of everything from working with bands tied around his ankles, knees, feet and waist, to distance running for endurance, to working with a parachute for resistance training.

    All of it was done with the intent to make Donald even quicker.

    “(It was) a lot of different things, but helps me being more explosive,” Donald said. “We do a lot of stuff, a lot of crazy stuff.”

    Beyond the conditioning and physical work, Donald also paid his usual precise detail to working with his hands. It’s been a borderline obsession for Donald since his time at Penn Hills High, just outside of Pittsburgh. There, Penn Hills defensive line coach Demond Gibson offered regular reminders of the importance of hand technique for defensive linemen.

    Gibson knew the value of hand usage as well as anyone after a career in which he played college ball at Pittsburgh and spent some time with the New Orleans Saints in the NFL as well as stints in the CFL and AFL.

    With Gibson helping him hone his technique even after going on to college, Donald has always been advanced in his ability to use his hands to gain an advantage. Although Donald is small compared to other defensive tackles at 6-feet and 285 pounds, his heavy hands combine with the aforementioned quickness and leverage to make him a tough block.

    “It’s great (to have) hand speed, but at the same time I’ve got the jitters to juke, do a little move and use your hands, it always is going to get those big guys off you,” Donald said.

    For a player who thoroughly dominated at the college level, Donald now faces his greatest challenge. The Rams are hopeful that the No. 13 overall pick in May’s draft can contribute right away, even if he’s not technically listed as a starter. In need of pass-rush help from interior of the line, Donald should get plenty of opportunities to get after quarterbacks right away, and he might even be able to avoid the constant double-teams teams threw at him at Pitt.

    While Donald’s offseason performance has been enough to draw the attention of coaches and teammates, the soft-spoken Donald has remained focused on the task at hand.

    “It’s a good thing just to know the coaches are starting to see me on the field,” Donald said.

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    I see Luck as a top-five real-life signal caller, even if his fantasy performance hasn’t quite reached those heights. (Yet.)

    Kaepernick is criticized for making only one or two reads before running, which makes sense when you consider his third read has been a fullback or Jon Baldwin.

    Below, different view on the same qbs. IE. just interesting qb discussion.

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    Luck is a solid to good QB. I think he’s overrated because many people treat him like he’s one of the best QBs in the NFL. Overrated to me has more to do with how you’re treated relative to your talent level than your talent level by itself.

    Luck is treated like he’s an elite QB when the reality is that he’s been a solid to good QB thus far in his career that has benefited greatly from playing in the worst division in football. Last year, Sam Bradford had a 121.6 QB Rating against the AFC South and averaged 3 TDs per game. You don’t think he’d have benefited greatly from playing 6 games a year against Jacksonville, Tennessee, and Houston instead of San Francisco, Arizona, and Seattle?

    Newton is currently the better QB. Luck is a better pocket passer but it’s not by much of a margin. As far as pressure is concerned, according to PFF’s Pressure%, Newton was the 11th most pressured QB in the NFL and Andrew Luck was the 10th most pressured QB in the NFL. The difference in pressure faced between the two was negligible. What was not negligible was Newton’s 66.4% accuracy% while under pressure compared to Andrew Luck’s 56.0%. That’s a difference of over 10%.

    Kaepernick is a limited QB that is overly reliant on his athleticism. He isn’t a mentally adept QB. He has a strong arm and great athleticism which allow him to compensate for how slowly he processes things, his poor field vision, and his struggles makings his way through progressions. Kaepernick is lucky to play on an offense with a stellar supporting cast and stellar coaching. Because he’d be a mediocre or worse QB in most other places.

    Wilson is flawed. But he’s a cerebral, accurate, patient QB that would play solid football for the Rams. Wouldn’t have the numbers he did in Seattle but he’d be good for us.

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    New book “Blood Sport” alleges Bernie Kosar’s slurred speech resulted from painkillers Browns gave him

    By Bill Livingston, The Plain Dealer
    July 19, 2014

    http://blog.cleveland.com/livingston_impact/print.html?entry=/2014/07/new_book_blood_sport_says_bern.html

    CLEVELAND Ohio –-Bernie Kosar slurs his words because:

    He has post-concussion syndrome.
    He refused to wear a mouthpiece as a Browns and Miami Dolphins quarterback and suffered severe dental injuries.
    He has a drinking problem.
    The Browns kept him on the playing field with doses of the addictive pain-killer oxycodone (trade name, oxycontin; street name, oxy, OC, O).

    The latter is alleged as the cause in the new book “Blood Sport – Alex Rodriguez, Biogenesis and the Quest to End Baseball’s Steroid Era” by the New York Times’ Tim Elfrink and Newday’s Gus Garcia-Roberts. Excerpts of the book, detailing the doping that made the currently suspended Rodriguez baseball’s No. 1 drug offender, appeared in a recent issue of Sports Illustrated.

    The Browns controversially removed Kosar as a television analyst for their exhibition games this off-season, citing sharp criticism he directed at a St. Louis Rams’ backup quarterback last season. Kosar’s sometimes slurred diction has often been criticized by some viewers.

    “Blood Sports” says he was steered to the Biogenesis “anti-aging” clinic by Julio Cortes, a defensive end on the 1983 Miami Hurricanes team that Kosar led to the national championship. The connection occurred after Bosch moved his offices in late 2011 to Coral Gables, directly across the street from the University’s Alex Rodriguez Park.

    Suffering from a bad back and knees that resulted from a short, violent football career at The U and with the NFL Seattle Seahawks and teams in the Canadian Football League, Cortes visited Biogenesis because he had gone to the same Florida high school, Columbia, as its founder Tony Bosch.

    Known as “Dr. Tony,” Bosch had only a two-year degree from a medical school in Belize in Central America and was unlicensed to practice medicine in the United States.

    Bosch had gotten good results with a complicated regimen of steroids, amino acids, testosterone, and human growth hormone, prescribed in Florida by licensed doctors willing to be paid for doing so to patients they never examined.

    The state, say the authors, became a fertile breeding ground for (the) age-conquering crusade.”

    In reality, “anti-aging” was a flimsy euphemism for steroid doping. “The state had always prided itself on its Wild West lack of regulation, particularly in the medical market,” say the authors. “The Sunshine State encumbered (anti-aging) businesses with virtually no rules.”

    The book alleges that, along with A-Rod and other elite baseball players, seeking to either regain or increase an illegal performance edge, “a steady stream of ex-Hurricanes and former NFL players started creaking over to Bosch’s office for treatment.”

    Among them was Kosar. “After a twelve-season pro career,” say the authors in a sad summary of the Browns’ legend, “Kosar has stumbled through a sometimes-incoherent retirement, marred by batty behavior, bankruptcy and drunk-driving arrests.”

    Bosch’s records indicate that Kosar was a patient and that at least one shipment of drugs was made, for which Kosar paid $600.

    The authors paraphrase Cortes’ view this way: “Compared to the highly addictive painkillers that NFL teams shovel at players, Cortes says Bosch’s treatments were a healthier alternative.”

    In a direct quote, Cortes said, “We can either do this or get back on the oxy. You read the papers about Kosar, and he’s a mess. He’s slurring his words from the medication, from the oxy that the Browns gave him.”

    Withdrawal from oxycodone is considered one of the most painful ordeals a drug addict faces, with body aches much worse than the flu and a sensation of pins and needles stabbing their muscles.

    The authors conclude: “If he gave Kosar testosterone, Bosch broke the law. But it’s hard to see immediate harm in two ailing middle-aged men snagging testosterone if it helped heal their aches. After all, they had legitimate health problems and were certainly old enough to know what they were getting into.”

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    Talented Rams poised to make leap
    Strong nucleus, Gregg Williams-led defense have St. Louis in strong position

    July 19, 2014

    By Jeffri Chadiha | ESPN.com

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11230836/st-louis-rams-poised-make-nfl-playoffs-2014?ex_cid=espnapi_public/print?id=11230836

    ST. LOUIS — There are plenty of reasons to like the St. Louis Rams as a sleeper during this coming NFL season. One is they play in a division, the NFC West, that has toughened them up. Another is their head coach, Jeff Fisher, knows how to build a playoff contender after spending nearly two decades with the Tennessee Titans.

    There’s also the fact that no team has invested more in high draft picks over the past three years than St. Louis. The Rams simply are primed to explode, with this fall looking very much like their coming-out party.

    There may be laughter in Seattle and San Francisco, but skeptics should recognize the key components that make the Rams capable of taking a huge leap forward.

    The 49ers were once a team in a similar position, stocked with first-round talent and no direction. The Seahawks, last season’s Super Bowl champions, didn’t have a real blueprint for their success until coach Pete Carroll and general manager John Schneider assembled a team built around hidden gems and a smash-mouth philosophy. The Rams enter this season with a team also loaded with youth, talent and enough hunger to take them to places this franchise hasn’t been in years.

    This squad still has plenty of players who remember what it was like to go 4-1-1 against NFC West opponents in 2012. That same group also has the appropriate desire after securing just one victory against conference rivals while finishing 7-9 last season.

    “We’re in our third year with coach Fisher and [general manager] Les Snead, so we feel good,” defensive end Chris Long said. “Every year we’ve seen improvement. We’ve gotten faster and more physical, and we’ve shown flashes. We’ve beaten some good teams. We’ve gone toe-to-toe with teams that have reached the Super Bowl.”

    If the Rams are going to make that leap into playoff contention after consecutive seven-win seasons, two things have to happen. The first involves the maturation of a defense that features one of the most promising front sevens in football. The Rams have athletic linebackers (headlined by Alec Ogletree and James Laurinaitis) and a front four that includes first-round picks at every position (along with this year’s No. 13 overall pick, defensive tackle Aaron Donald). The superstar of the group is fourth-year defensive end Robert Quinn, who finished second in the NFL with 19 sacks last season.

    The Rams were solid defensively in 2013 — they ranked 13th in the league in points allowed and 15th in total yards — but they still have significant upside. The arrival of new defensive coordinator Gregg Williams should help the Rams capitalize on that potential. As much as Williams has been bashed for his role in the infamous bounty scandal that rocked the New Orleans Saints and led to his 11-month suspension from football, the man can run a defense. His teams fly to the ball, force turnovers and leave most opposing offenses feeling like they’ve been battling in a 60-minute street fight.

    Don’t discount that approach or talent up front when the Rams face Seattle’s Russell Wilson and San Francisco’s Colin Kaepernick twice each.

    Said Long: “[Williams’] intensity is the biggest thing. He talks about every day being an interview. He’s giving his best all the time and he expects that same attitude from everybody he coaches. He makes guys accountable.”

    The second most important variable for the Rams is the development of quarterback Sam Bradford, who is entering his fifth season. Bradford has experienced plenty in his young career — he’s gone from being the league’s offensive rookie of the year to struggling in a new offensive system in his second season to being lost after seven games in 2013 with a torn ACL. Through all those ups and downs, the Rams have remained patient and confident he can be the quarterback they envision. As proof, they point to his numbers in the first half of last season, when he threw 14 touchdown passes and only four interceptions.

    Bradford doesn’t have to be exceptional for the Rams to prosper. He only needs be close to what he was before last year’s injury and consistent against the tough defenses of the NFC West. What makes Kaepernick and Wilson so tough is their penchant for making game-changing plays when their teams need it most. Though Bradford lacks their speed and quickness, he does have a cool makeup that suggests he can handle difficult moments when healthy.

    The Rams also are encouraged by what they’ve seen from him so far this offseason. “It was very disappointing last year because of the injury he had,” offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer said. “But he also knows what he has to do to stay healthy. He’s added some upper body mass, and the days he’s had during OTAs have been huge. He made five of the nine full sessions, and he looked good. He knows what plays he needs to get us into and get out of, and that’s big. We honestly didn’t know how much time we’d have with him in the offseason.”

    Like most teams that finish in last place, there are other little advantages that could aid St. Louis early. They open the season against three teams — Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Dallas — that didn’t make last year’s postseason. After that, the Rams will have to prove themselves quickly, with games against Philadelphia, San Francisco (twice), Seattle, Kansas City, Arizona, Denver and San Diego over the subsequent nine weeks. The Cardinals are the only team in that group that didn’t make the playoffs in 2013 — and they won 10 games before being eliminated from contention in Week 17.

    There is every reason to think the Rams could be the equivalent of last year’s Cardinals or Carolina Panthers, two teams that enjoyed surprising success with strong defenses and efficient quarterback play.

    “I’m hopeful, but without the execution, hope can be dangerous,” Long said. “We have to put the work in, and we have to show more growth. I’m 29, and I’m the third-oldest guy in the building now. We’re at the point where young won’t be enough anymore.”

    That happens to be a critical juncture that every young team faces eventually. The bad ones tend to find excuses to keep on losing, while the good ones find an identity. The Rams already have enough pieces in place to know who they have to be this season. The only thing that matters now is putting them all together.

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    I am always optimistic till the bullets are flying (then I become more of just a hopeful realist). It all just seems natural to me. Just the way I see stuff.

    But it’s qualified. For one thing I don’t do predictions…over the years, even I have learned that the most powerful thing in the world of predictions is the unpredictable smiley 101…and that (surprise!) you learn about the unpredictable after the fact. “There’s always the unexpected isn’t there.”

    Rams fans optimism to me just means you can see reasonable grounds for expecting the team to be good or better than it was.

    So what do I think those grounds are this time?

    * Coaches. Unlike many I like Schott. That’s a whole separate discussion in itself. Waufle and Boudreau are beyond compare. Fisher will field a fiesty group. Wms. really does improve defenses.

    * Secondary. They were painfully young and probably misused. Wms will get the best out of them. Or I see him as capable of that, anyway.

    * Front 7. This is a new era in Rams football, where the DL (and to an extent LBs) take the lead in determining games. Greatest Sacks on Turf.

    * OL. If everyone is healthy, the OL has the potential to be absolutely first-rate. It has the depth to be good enough anyway, even with major injuries (though as I keep saying, past a certain point OL injuries just take a toll.) Really, I think the worst case scenario (barring catastrophic multiple injuries, something sadly enough a Rams fan can’t rule out….)

    * TEs, WRs. Some good things there (Kendricks, Austin, maybe Bailey) but this is more a case where the coaches have to manufacture it out of scattered raw parts. So, it’s up to the coaches to weekly invent new ways to get something out of these guys, depending on the opponent. Obviously it would be better if they had a consistent, productive “The Guy” type guy to work with.

    * QB. Based on my own quirky way of doing this, I think Bradford has already made it as a tier 2 qb. I base that on his production under Fisher when the Rams had both a reasonably healthy OL and a running threat. IMO if he doesn’t continue at that level, he has regressed.

    * RBs. Not sure if they have a 16 game stud, but, they have lottsa guys who can run the ball. (I don’t know about Stacy for 16 games.)

    * special teams. Best in the league.

    Now what do I PREDICT based on that? I don;t know. When was the last time a young team emerged in a “best division in football” it shared with 2 consecutive conference champs? I am sure it has happened, but those are stern odds. Given that, there ARE reasonable grounds for optimism, but it’s also a young team with quite a few units in transition.

    BUT. If a few of the things I think are good hold up, they should be better immediately.

    I do NOT have a “3 year thing” though. I think Fisher has more than 3 years…he looks to me to be Stan’s Guy for the long haul.

    Am I trying to have it both ways? Hopefully, yes. The realist in me sees how tough the situation is, and I am patient with that. The optimist in me sees plenty of places where they will be anywhere from good enough to exceptional.

    I do think a team that can massacre three division winners with Clemens at qb (like they did last year)is on the rise.

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    Should I hold my breath waiting for an apology?

    I said several times throughout the thread I shouldn’t have name-called you. Go back and look. Not sure what else you want.

    But then in spite of your denial, I WAS blocked. So let’s begin one small step and see how it goes. X said I WAS blocked (like I knew I was). Did you know about that or not, and do you condone that or not now that it’s completely public?

    Either X did it like he said, without your knowledge…which means you were running a site where someone could do that (plus read mod PMs and talk about them in public). Or you knew X did it. Or he’s just covering for you.

    Did I ever know I was running a site where someone other than you was reading mod PMs and could block whoever he wanted? Did I know that was the deal I signed on to? How does that sit with you? We fell apart because of distrust. How does something like that contribute to distrust?

    You could give an honest answer, or you could do more zn bashing. But that rings hollow because I asked you to partner up on a site in the first place because you had already invited me to front one for you (that happened when you were impatient with RM because at that point the huddle kept going down). You had known me since the herd. You had known me on the huddle. When my solution to the huddle wars was to make a new site, that was fine with you…and you saw the huddle wars while they were happening. (To the point where you even told me on the buzz that Arsenic was Pancake). Your idea, as you kept telling me, was to have the biggest, most advanced Rams board, and you clearly thought you could do that with me–you even said so, and praised the board (until you bought ROD). That’s all completely understandable, but as I said all the subsequent zn bashing rings completely hollow now. smiley10

    Let’s see how this goes. Did you know I was blocked, and/or do you condone it now that it’s completely public?

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    PhxRam wrote:
    here I am lets do this.

    I am PhxRam (Bob) sole owner of the ramsbuzz.com website. You got questions or concerns ask them now.

    Okay but we follow all board rules or there’s no point in having them. We keep it civil.

    That means we stick to the topic, which is–why did the buzz board get shut down suddenly with no prior notice. And then we either agree or agree to disagree and move on. I also don’t want people piling on just to pile on–that’s not fair and it’s never right when it happens.

    We have a simple dispute and my hope is it can either be resolved or end in an eternal warless stalemate (like a benign divorce). Either way.

    Agreed?

    Okay, I will take agreement as being implicit and act accordingly. I don’t like board wars on good sites and have had my fill of them. But it is possible to air differences and either agree to move on or come to a better resolution.

    My stance on this has been that you had a right to take the board down and that’s all I was going to say about it in public. I was content with that. But things obviously spilled over, and so it’s time to just move toward the agree or agree to disagree endgame then drop it.

    First history, then questions.

    History.

    This linked post contains the entirety of the exchanges between us on he 28th which if memory serves is when you took the buzz board down: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/temporary-post-some-history/

    That history will show this. I was blocked from both the buzz and ROD. By all appearances I was IP blocked. I even went to another network (by leaving home with my laptop) and had full access to the site from there.

    I emailed you to find out why I was blocked.

    I also went to another board and PMed a third party to ask if that third party knew anything.

    The history post contains all of that.

    Your response to my email was to deny you knew anything about me being blocked (you called it banned but I wasn’t banned). You reacted angrily to my 2nd, more impatient email which said: Come on man……if you have an issue just raise it, whatever it is, person to person. You don’t have to act like a dick and then expect me to guess what it’s about. That’s what ex-wives do. -:) Heck I never figured out why you blocked me from ROD the first time.

    You then apparently took the site down. (I didn’t even know you had until the third party I mentioned said you did…I couldn’t access the site at all).

    The Questions

    If you were pissed at me, why not just ban ME…why blow up an entire site? These guys loved that site.

    Also, think…why would I “make up” being blocked? I had nothing to gain from doing that, and it was frustrating as hell. Here I was managing a site I didn’t even have access to…with the very natural supposition I was blocked for reasons unknown.

    If the situation had been reversed AND I HADN’T BLOCKED YOU, I would have just gone “calm down, we’ll figure it out.”

    So you either blocked me and deny it OR you did not think about what it would mean for me to BE blocked…and how that NATURALLY led to frustration.

    (Though in retrospect, regardless what you did or what I thought, I shouldn’t have called you a dick…that was just the frustration of being blocked from the site. You did build the site in the first place and give it an honest chance at first, even though you became very absentee after buying ROD.)

    I think you know regardless what reason you think you had, blowing up a site without prior notice is not the best way to do things.

    And remember–regardless what you say, I was blocked (still am at ROD). Now imagine the frustration of that. So either you blocked me OR you are not thinking very hard about how that would bother someone.

    Then. I find out accidently and indirectly that one former buzz poster is at the ROD site asking where the buzz community was, and when I saw that–again, having to leave home to access it through another network because I was still blocked at ROD–no one would tell him. So I just urged people here to tell him somehow, so he would at least have a choice.

    A lot of people wonder why the buzz URL re-directs to ROD now but I don’t care about that, myself.

    I will wait for a response before saying more.

    My goal is resolution and endgame. I hate board wars. They make the net ugly.

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    Rams on a Mission as OTAs Conclude

    School’s out – temporarily – for the St. Louis Rams.

    The team concluded OTAs with a dose of levity via a punt-catching competition between the offensive and defensive lines, the final leg of a three-week session that proved lighthearted and spirited at once. “We told the guys you’re not going to compete for the division here over the next couple weeks,” head coach Jeff Fisher said. “The only thing you do is set yourself back. So it was a step-by-step process, we got everything in, and we came through it very, very healthy. We got the rooks caught up, which was good.”
    Rams quarterback Sam Bradford

    Rams quarterback Sam Bradford

    One of the principal participants, in fact, managed to exceed initial expectations in the area of reps. Rehabbing starting quarterback Sam Bradford went through several seven-on-seven drills and even tackled the hurry-up offense on occasion, among other duties.

    “I was really happy with everything that went on during the OTAs,” Bradford said. “A big part of it for me was obviously physically getting back out on to the field, seeing how my knee reacted. It’s been fantastic. We were actually able to do a little more than we anticipated, so that’s very positive.”

    As Bradford nears full health, the Oklahoma product is aware of the albatross hanging over the headquarters in Earth City: The club hasn’t sniffed the playoffs since he assumed the controls in 2010. Yet the former Heisman Trophy winner remains adamant about not letting outside criticism alter his training for the all-important season ahead.

    “To be honest, I don’t pay attention to any of it,” Bradford told reporters recently. “I don’t read the papers, I don’t listen to the radio, I don’t watch the news. I’m focused on what I do here in this building. I know the preparation and time that I’ve put in. I know I’m doing the right things. “Maybe it hasn’t paid off yet and we haven’t taken that next step, but I know that what I am doing is a process. Just be patient. I think this year we are going to take that next step.”

    In the run-up to April’s draft, Fisher and general manager Les Snead took great pains to reaffirm the organization’s faith in the fifth-year signal-caller. And it wouldn’t surprise the man at the helm if No. 8 were to register a Pro Bowl-worthy campaign at last. “Oh yeah, there is no doubt,” Fisher said. “He has got the vision, the decision-making ability, the arm strength, the mobility to put up great numbers.”

    Bradford’s drive to enter the upper echelon of professional throwers remains stronger than ever. “I think every quarterback has that mindset,” Bradford said. “You have to believe in yourself and you have to be confident. “I’m confident in all of my abilities. I don’t try to compare myself to anyone. You guys do a great job of that, but I believe in everything I do to get myself ready to play and I’m confident when I step on the field on Sunday that I can help us win.”

    It’s officially summer, with Rams players and coaches alike scattering in various directions until rookies report July 21.

    “I’m actually looking forward to it,” Bradford said. “Nothing cool. I’m just going to go back to Oklahoma, continue the rehab process and get ready for training camp. Come in as strong as possible.”

    Fisher took a more coy approach when addressing his plans. “I’ll probably disappear for a while,” he said. “If I told where I was going I wouldn’t be disappearing.”
    Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams

    Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams

    While personnel are encouraged to take advantage of the break from the gridiron, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams may find the lull in the action a bit harder to absorb.

    “I’m happiest on the field. I’m happiest out here,” Williams said. “I’m happiest competing. In the meeting room, it’s good too, when the players are around. In the offseason when the players aren’t around and the coaches have to suffer through me … they were so happy when the players got here because they got a break too because now I can start stressing the players instead of stressing the coaches.

    “But it is fun. This is where I’m happiest. Again, in the state of Missouri, back in my home state, here in St. Louis, I can’t tell you how happy I am. This is a good group of guys to be with.” National types recognize the Kirksville native’s zest for the game, too.

    “You can maybe look at Gregg as being one of the best acquisitions this offseason,” ESPN’s John Clayton, a recent guest on “The Fast Lane,” said. “But then when you put (rookie defensive tackle) Aaron Donald in that nickel package with how young it is, and how good it is, and how talented is … I was surprised, when I was looking at the numbers, that the Ram numbers weren’t better last year. They got the sacks, but they gave up a lot of yards.” Clayton continued.

    “Now I think that you can see, it’s going to start shutting people down. And that’s going to be the nature of what Gregg Williams is going to do. He’s going to get those guys thinking, ‘Hey, we don’t want to concede anything on this defense.’”

    Here’s the full training camp schedule of practices open to the public:
    Friday, July 25 at 3:30 p.m.
    Saturday, July 26 at 3:30 p.m.
    Sunday, July 27 at 5:30 p.m.
    Tuesday, July 29 at 3:30 p.m.
    Thursday, July 31 at 5:30 p.m.
    Friday, Aug. 1 at 3:30 p.m.
    Saturday, Aug. 2 at 12:30 p.m. (scrimmage at Edward Jones Dome)
    Monday, Aug. 4 at 3:30 p.m.
    Tuesday, Aug. 5 at 5:30 p.m.
    Thursday, Aug. 7 at 3:30 p.m.
    Monday, Aug. 11 at 3:30 p.m.
    Tuesday, Aug. 12 at 5:30 p.m.
    Thursday, Aug. 14 at 3:30 p.m.
    Tuesday, Aug. 19 at 3:30 p.m.
    Wednesday, Aug. 20 at 3:30 p.m.

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