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    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-coach-jeff-fisher-couldnt-say-no-to-garcia-pd/%5DRams Coach Jeff Fisher Couldn’t Say ‘No’ to Garcia –PD
    When he interviewed Jeff Garcia for the Rams’ quarterbacks coach job in February, coach Jeff Fisher came away impressed.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-among-teams-with-best-offseasons-so-far-brandt/%5DRams Among Teams with Best Offseasons So Far –Brandt
    Below is my list of the six teams that have had the best offseasons, with five more to consider at the end for good measure:

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-brian-quick-making-progress-toward-return-latsch/%5DRams’ Brian Quick Making Progress Toward Return –Latsch
    A year ago, Rams wide receiver Brian Quick was one of the most impressive players on the field during the team’s OTA sessions.

    http://www.rams-news.com/new-rams-qb-nick-foles-taking-charge-of-rams/%5DNew Rams QB Nick Foles Taking Charge of Rams
    For St. Louis Rams quarterback Nick Foles, the last three months have been a whirlwind.

    http://www.rams-news.com/could-the-rams-be-a-better-offensive-team-in-2015/%5DCould the Rams Be a Better Offensive Team in 2015??
    Backed by arguably one of the NFL‘s top defenses, it is time for the St. Louis Rams to finally become a complete team in order for them to become a playoff team in 2015.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-strong-pass-rush-is-back-under-co-ordinator-gregg-williams-ap/%5DRams’ strong pass rush is back under co-ordinator Gregg Williams –AP
    The St. Louis Rams’ strong pass rush is back under co-ordinator Gregg Williams.

    http://www.rams-news.com/ready-to-play-rookie-havenstein-an-odds-on-favorite-to-start-on-o-line-this-fall-fsmw/%5DReady to Play: Rookie Havenstein an Odds-on Favorite to Start on O-line this Fall –FSMW
    Yeah, there’s a chance rookie tackle Rob Havenstein may not be starting on the St. Louis Rams’ offensive line come fall.

    http://www.rams-news.com/kenny-britt-on-qb-foles-he-can-throw-every-pass-in-the-book-ap/%5DKenny Britt on QB Foles: ‘He can throw every pass in the book’ –AP
    Quarterback Nick Foles is getting to know his new St. Louis Rams teammates.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-rb-tre-mason-says-todd-gurley-is-family-now/%5DRams RB Tre Mason says Todd Gurley is ‘Family’ Now
    St. Louis Rams running back Tre Mason made the NFL All-Rookie team last season. After being selected out of Auburn with a third-round pick in the 2014 NFL Draft

    http://www.rams-news.com/akeem-ayers-finds-right-fit-with-rams-latsch/%5DAkeem Ayers Finds Right Fit with Rams –Latsch
    Akeem Ayers had plenty of options in free agency this offseason, but the outside linebacker who spent most of his first four seasons with the Titans felt at home when he visited with the Rams.

    http://www.rams-news.com/brian-quick-progressing-with-shoulder-rehab-simmons/%5DBrian Quick Progressing with Shoulder Rehab –Simmons
    Wide receiver Brian Quick has been working diligently to get back to full strength after suffering a season-ending shoulder injury last Oct. 26 against the Chiefs.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-center-competition-just-getting-started-wagoner/%5DRams Center Competition just Getting Started –Wagoner
    Some thoughts and observations from the St. Louis Rams’ second open organized team activity on Friday afternoon:

    http://www.rams-news.com/nick-foles-adjusting-to-vastly-different-offense-wagoner/%5DNick Foles Adjusting to Vastly Different Offense –Wagoner
    Since his arrival in the NFL in 2012, quarterback Nick Foles’ view of the field has largely come standing upright from a few yards behind the center.

    http://www.rams-news.com/todd-gurley-finding-ways-to-participate-in-rams-otas-wagoner/%5DTodd Gurley finding ways to participate in Rams OTAs –Wagoner
    Although St. Louis Rams running back Todd Gurley isn’t technically participating in organized team activities this week, he is doing everything he can to get a reasonable approximation.

    http://www.rams-news.com/greg-robinson-the-weight-loss-will-help-me-be-quicker-video/%5DGreg Robinson: The Weight Loss Will Help Me Be Quicker –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/sasser-story-could-have-a-few-more-twists-and-turns-video/%5DSasser Story Could Have A Few More Twists and Turns –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/jeff-fisher-talks-nick-foles-todd-gurley-and-bud-sasser-audio/%5DJeff Fisher Talks Nick Foles, Todd Gurley and Bud Sasser –Audio

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-og-rodger-saffold-being-patient-is-the-hardest-thing-video/%5DRams OG Rodger Saffold: “Being patient is the hardest thing” –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-rookie-rb-todd-gurley-its-just-about-getting-my-rehab-video/%5DRams Rookie RB Todd Gurley: “It’s just about getting my rehab” –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-qb-nick-foles-building-chemistry-with-receivers-video/%5DRams QB Nick Foles Building Chemistry with Receivers –Video

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    Todd Gurley finding ways to participate in Rams OTAs

    By Nick Wagoner

    ESPN.com

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13019961/todd-gurley-st-louis-rams-progressing-rehab-acl-tear

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Although St. Louis Rams running back Todd Gurley isn’t technically participating in organized team activities this week, he is doing everything he can to get a reasonable approximation.

    Gurley is still rehabilitating from the torn left ACL he suffered in November. For now, Gurley is mostly limited to hanging out on the sideline with the athletic trainers. But he is not just standing around with nothing to do.

    Near the start of the team’s Thursday practice, Gurley worked with athletic trainer Byron Cunningham on the side. As his teammates went through individual drills, Gurley did some high leg kicks and running. He was mostly limited to linear work that doesn’t require him to move much laterally, but he was able to do a few agility drills that required change of direction.

    Gurley also stayed on the field after practice was over, running a few routes for rookie quarterback Sean Mannion. Gurley worked at about half speed and wasn’t cutting like he would in a game, but he did get some extra repetitions.

    Coach Jeff Fisher said Gurley, the No. 10 overall pick in this year’s draft, is progressing well. The Rams have put no timetable on when Gurley will return to practice or games, but Fisher has indicated a willingness to be as patient as necessary.

    “Todd’s doing a great job with his rehab,” Fisher said. “He’s very anxious. He’s probably a little frustrated, probably deep down inside not really happy right now, but he’s anxious to get out there right now, so that’s going well.”

    During Friday’s OTAs, the Rams appeared to dial it back with Gurley. Near the end of the session, Gurley did get some one-on-one time with running backs coach Ben Sirmans.

    Sirmans walked Gurley through some runs, and Gurley ran at about half speed, mixing in a couple of small cutbacks.

    “I feel good. I just can’t play football right now,” Gurley said. “I’m running around and doing agility stuff. It’s just day by day.”

    When not doing work on the side, Gurley said he is doing his best to stay attuned to what’s happening on the field. When the Rams switched from individual drills to team sessions, Gurley stopped his sideline work and joined his teammates in the huddle, standing close enough to hear the plays and run through them in his mind.

    “[It’s good] just being able to get my rehab during practice when they are doing individual, then when team comes, I get those mental reps,” Gurley said.

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    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-report/updated-heart-condition-ends-sasser-s-time-with-rams/article_0fa3ad7e-769e-59b0-aa99-35b2ec756554.html
    Heart condition ends Sasser’s time with Rams
    1 hour ago • By Jim Thomas

    At least as far as the Rams are concerned, wide receiver Bud Sasser’s NFL career is over before it started because of a heart condition.

    Rams coach Jeff Fisher confirmed after Thursday’s OTA practice what has been rumored for several weeks, namely that Sasser could not pass his physical because of the heart condition — known as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, or HCM.

    In layman’s terms, it’s a thickening of the heart muscle that can make it more difficult to pump blood.

    “We did some extensive studies after the draft,” Fisher said. “And it was determined and concluded by numerous physicians that he had a pre-existing condition that we don’t feel will allow him to play.”

    The Rams placed Sasser on the non-football illness list, and then placed him on waived/non-football inury on Thursday. The Rams did pay the former University of Missouri star his signing bonus of $113,000. It’s possible he could be claimed by another team, but his time with the Rams is over.

    Sasser was not at Rams Park on Thursday, but told the Post-Dispatch via phone: “I’m all right. It’ll work out. I’m not down. You can put that out there.”

    Sasser stopped just short himself of confirming the heart condition, saying, “it’s not 100 percent true,” and adding, “we’re going to figure it out.”

    Those later comments by Sasser no doubt are related to encouraging medical reports he received from a cardiologist in Dallas as well as specialists from the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota.

    “The Mayo Clinic doctor did say Bud was such a low risk, he should be able to play,” said Scott Thiel, Sasser’s agent. “The doctors at the Mayo Clinic said they had several patients that came in with that exact case that are currently playing in the NFL.”

    Thiel said the Dallas cardiologist also provided a letter in which he states Sasser should be able to play.

    “He said it’s not an issue,” Thiel said, speaking of the Dallas cardiologist. “He said Bud’s stress test, and different tests like that were in the 99th percentile — that he has an extremely healthy heart.”

    But the Rams obviously didn’t want to take the risk, which is something Sasser and Thiel totally understood.

    “The Rams have been great, I want to make sure that’s known,” Thiel said. “They’ve been nothing but class. But at the end of the day, any risk for them was too much risk.”

    According to Thiel, Sasser’s condition is genetic. He’s had it from birth. To his knowledge the heart issue either didn’t show up in tests at Mizzou, or wasn’t deemed a problem.

    Privacy laws prevent the university from commenting on Sasser’s medical history, but Mizzou athletics spokesman Chad Moller said the Tigers wouldn’t clear a player to play if it suspected he had a serious health issue.

    Following his Mizzou career, Sasser didn’t get invited to the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, so he didn’t undergo the exhaustive battery of medical tests that take place there in February.

    In addition, Sasser didn’t work out or pay a predraft visit to the Rams, so the team didn’t have much medical information on him prior to the draft.

    “Typically what you do is you contact the university, which we did,” Fisher said. “And this was just one of those things that kind of slipped through the cracks.”

    During the predraft process, Sasser paid visits to Green Bay, Houston, Kansas City and Oakland. (Reports that he also visited Denver were erroneous.) There were rumors that some teams backed off Sasser in the draft because of the heart issue. But if that was the case, Thiel said he was unaware of it — no team alerted him about any health concerns.

    There’s no doubt the Rams wanted to make it work with Sasser. There was no guarantee he’d make the final roster on a depth chart that returned the top five wide receivers from 2014. But the Rams liked his size (6-3, 219), strong hands, catch radius and ability to come down with the contested throw.

    Despite a breakout 2014 season, which saw Sasser finish among the Southeastern Conference leaders in both catches (77) and yards (1,003), plus score 12 touchdowns, it was surprising that he didn’t get a Combine invite. In addition, he was not invited to any of the postseason all-star games, such as the Senior Bowl.

    It all added to the chip on Sasser’s shoulder and the determination to make it in the NFL. When he finally got the call May 2 in the sixth round at No. 201 overall, Sasser could hardly contain his enthusiasm.

    “Oh my gosh, if this isn’t the greatest feeling I’ve ever felt in my life, then I don’t know what would be,” Sasser said that day on a conference call with reporters.

    It was hoped that he could provide some of the “sixth-round magic” that former Mizzou teammate E.J. Gaines provided as a rookie sixth-rounder a year ago — having an immediate impact at cornerback.

    But then came the results of his Rams physical, follow-up results and then Thursday’s release. Sasser never took part in a Rams practice.

    “You definitely have to feel for the guy,” veteran Rams wideout Kenny Britt said. “Especially when you’re this close to making your dreams come true.

    “He worked so hard from grammar school, to high school and to college. You know that you get this next step and your dreams come true. Something like that is kind of sad. My heart and prayers go out to him.”

    (Dave Matter of the Post-Dispatch staff contributed to this story.)

    That sounds like he is OK. imo

    Agamemnon

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    In reply to: OTAs Day 2

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    Foles getting acquainted with new team, new offense

    By R.B. FALLSTROM (AP Sports Writer)

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/foles-getting-acquainted-team-offense-222552308–nfl.html

    ST. LOUIS (AP) — Quarterback Nick Foles is getting to know his new St. Louis Rams teammates.

    ”We love him,” wide receiver Kenny Britt said Thursday after the second OTA session and first open to reporters. ”Great deep ball, he puts it on the money every time.

    ”He can throw every pass in the book.”

    Coach Jeff Fisher said Foles had a good grasp of the offense, which is important right now since he’s going against a front that was much improved last season.

    Foles was 14-5 as a starter in Philadelphia and is recovered from a broken collarbone that sidelined him the last eight games of 2014.

    ”He’s got his hands full because we’ve got great defensive team speed and they’re doing a lot of things over there right now,” Fisher said. ”We’ve just really been pleased.”

    There have been a multitude of changes on offense.

    Frank Cignetti was promoted from quarterbacks coach to coordinator. A number of young offensive linemen could be pressed into action right away. Veteran guard Rodger Saffold is rounding into form after offseason shoulder surgery.

    ”It’s a different offense, different terminology,” Foles said. ”But that’s the fun of it. I get to learn more football.”

    It’ll be awhile before Foles works with the entire group. First-round pick Todd Gurley is rehabbing from left knee surgery and is getting limited work on the side, but might not be ready for the start of the season.

    Fisher said the former Georgia star running back was ”very anxious and probably a little frustrated, probably deep down inside not very happy right now.”

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    St. Louis Rams quarterback Nick Foles throws a pass during an NFL football organized team activity, …
    ”You know how it is sitting out for a long time,” Gurley said, ”but I’ve got to be patient. I feel good but I can’t play right now.”

    Foles hasn’t forgotten the surprise of getting dealt for Sam Bradford in the offseason.

    ”I did not expect the trade and that’s the truth,” Foles said. ”Once I started talking to coach Fisher, I was excited to get to know him because that’s where my life was taking me.”

    St. Louis released veteran offensive linemen Scott Wells and Jake Long after last season and devoted much of the draft to the offensive line.

    Tackle Rob Havenstein was taken in the second round, followed tackle-guard Jamon Brown in the third, tackle Andrew Donnal in the fourth and guard Cody Wichmann in the sixth.

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    St. Louis Rams quarterback Nick Foles takes part in a drill during an NFL football organized team ac …
    Havenstein and Brown spent a lot of time with the first unit Thursday.

    ”They’re going to do a great job,” Foles said. ”I remember my rookie year, what it’s like for these OTAs. This is really the foundation and you’re going to have those growing pains.”

    The players who spoke on Thursday said the possibility the franchise might move to Los Angeles at some point is not on their minds.

    ”Right now I’m here and that’s all I worry about,” Foles said. ”That’s all out of our control.”

    Fisher coached the Houston Oilers when they moved to Tennessee and said he’d rather not be apprised of developments.

    ”It’s been my opinion really from the start that when all this stuff started happening I’m better off probably not knowing the specifics,” the coach said. ”That way, when someone asks me I can say I don’t know.

    ”That way, I can say I’m telling the truth.”

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    Topic: JT chat 6/2

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    Rams chat with Jim Thomas

    http://sports.live.stltoday.com/Event/Rams_chat_with_Jim_Thomas_91?Page=0

    Any survey results from Peacock or the Team owners? When should we expect some news?
    by Jack Reynolds 2:05 PM

    Hello again, everybody. As for survey results, nothing yet that I’m aware of.
    by jthomas 2:05 PM

    Jim – With the flurry of activity surrounding the owners meetings – including the possibility of a special meeting just to discuss St. Louis – and, the lawsuit, what’s your current stay percentage? Are you encouraged or discouraged?
    by McGarrett 2:05 PM

    I’m still at 43-57
    by jthomas 2:06 PM

    Hi Jim. Any updates to the story hat Stan was going to sell the Rams to his wife to meet the cross ownership rules. I know the NFL does whatever it wants when it comes to owners, but is that allowed? I’d like to know how that will impact the possible move to LA.
    by STLFootball 2:06 PM

    That was an old story, from at least a couple of years ago, that got published by mistake.
    by jthomas 2:06 PM

    so, with the lawsuit (whatever it is) are the rams as good as gone?
    by steve r 2:07 PM

    I wouldn’t say that. Not at this point.
    by jthomas 2:07 PM

    What’s your take on the demolition at Hollywood Park on Sunday? Do you think it was just Stan staying one step ahead or do you think the NFL basically said “hey, you’re going to win so why don’t you go ahead and start building”?
    by flyguy 2:07 PM

    Not much of a read on it either way. No matter what, the Hollywood Park facility was going down.
    by jthomas 2:08 PM

    I won’t ask for specifics, but do you or any member of the PD staff have information about the future of Rams football in St. Louis that you are unable to divulge to the public? A simple Yes or No answer will suffice.
    by Turf Toe Jones 2:08 PM

    Of course.
    by jthomas 2:08 PM

    Will Trey Watts remain a Ram after this suspension? How about Pead? Keep him around for some extra competition?
    by AzRams`Fan 2:08 PM

    Watts needs to have a very good training camp in order to give the Rams’ coaches something to think about. As does Pead. Obviously, Watts’ suspension opens up another opportunity for Pead to stick around.
    by jthomas 2:10 PM

    Does the team generate enough money in the region to justify staying? Or the inverse?
    by willeyeam 2:10 PM

    I think so.
    by jthomas 2:10 PM

    Jim – Any updates on Gurley’s health yet?
    by Ryan 2:10 PM

    Nothing yet. We’ll know more later in the week at the open OTAs.
    by jthomas 2:11 PM

    Was there any Rams offer to Joe Barksdale that was better than what he received from San Diego?
    by Turf Toe Jones 2:11 PM

    Both the Rams and Atlanta offered more money.
    by jthomas 2:11 PM

    IF both healthy, Bradford out performs Noles or vice versa?
    by Don 2:11 PM

    I’d say Bradford. But the “if healthy” is a monumental “if.”
    by jthomas 2:12 PM

    I keep reading the Rams drafted “road graders” and they’re a ground and pound team….”Gradest Show on Turf”? Kind of catchy if they can really run the ball.
    by AzRams`Fan 2:12 PM

    Yeah, which I believe is what they’ve been trying to do for 3-plus years.
    by jthomas 2:12 PM

    Do you think Peacock and Blitz should have just pushed for a public vote?
    by c_good 2:12 PM

    I know time is of the essence. And I realize it takes money to launch a campaign. But I don’t know why they didn’t try a vote first.
    by jthomas 2:13 PM

    What will Garcia’s role be?
    by willeyeam 2:13 PM

    He has the title of offensive assistant. It’s an entry level position and involves a lot of grunt work. It’s not a high-profile position.
    by jthomas 2:14 PM

    Do you think Nick Foles can lead the Rams to the playoffs?
    by Big Dave 2:14 PM

    If Foles stays healthy, the young offensive line produces, and the defense plays up to its press clippings _ yes.
    by jthomas 2:15 PM

    Hi Jim I just saw the Tre Mason Wired of his 3TD game vs OAK & he seems like a super exhuberant & likeable but humble well grounded guy with high character. He & Gurley could be big together yeah?
    by Sacramento Ram 2:15 PM

    Yeah, it’s just a matter of finding enough work for both _ and Gurley getting healthy.
    by jthomas 2:16 PM

    When do you think we will hear more news regarding the stadium from Peacock?
    by Mark 2:16 PM

    Hard to say. Perhaps when all the land is assembled.
    by jthomas 2:16 PM

    Does Cody Davis make the team this year??
    How about Christian Bryant?
    by mikeq 2:16 PM

    Barring injury, McDonald, McLeod, and Barron are locks. I would think Alexander would be close to a lock because of his draft status (fourth round). That leaves one spot if the team goes with five safeties. And at this point I think Davis would have the edge over Bryant.
    by jthomas 2:18 PM

    Has the season ticket sales dropped from last year at this time?
    by Mark 2:18 PM

    From what I have been told, yes, ticket sales are down although I can’t give you a percentage.
    by jthomas 2:19 PM

    take this with a grain of salt but I know a guy whose son is involved with the development of NFL stadiums. He says the STL stadium is a done deal with Raiders/Chargers to Carson and Jags will be pushed to London once their lease expires (2020s I think).
    by stlrams4ever 2:19 PM

    Clip and save.
    by jthomas 2:19 PM

    I think the biggest obstacle is stan contributing what he needs to for the stadium to go forward. No indication he will. Your thoughts. Thanks
    by Paul 2:19 PM

    It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. What if the NFL approves the Carson site? What other choice will Stan have.
    by jthomas 2:20 PM

    With all the moves made on the o-line, staying the course at WR, and total overhaul in the QB room, I think we may see more of the wide open offense that they tried in the beginning of ’13 as opposed to the G&P they are trying to sell. Thoughts?
    by willeyeam 2:20 PM

    No chance.
    by jthomas 2:20 PM

    If Stan is forced to stay he will have to contribute monies towards the new stadium, that is if he wants owners to vote for him to take over the Broncos when the time comes.
    by Terry 2:21 PM

    Something like that.
    by jthomas 2:21 PM

    Is there a large amount of technique difference between run blocking and pass blocking as an o-lineman? When someone is good at one but not the other, is it seen as a difficult transition to become good at both?
    by Jason Vorhees 2:22 PM

    Well, run-blocking takes more strength and power. Pass-blocking takes more athleticism and footwork. I know that’s a big generalization, but that’s it in a nutshell. Of course, there are also line calls, blitz pickups, dealing with stunts and blitzes that must be taken into account as well in pass blocking. This mental part can be just as difficult for incoming college players as the physical part.
    by jthomas 2:25 PM

    People keep saying Stan may be “forced to stay” as if something is “forcing” him to leave (besides the $$). Am I missing something?
    by willeyeam 2:25 PM

    No, but it’s clear he wants to leave.
    by jthomas 2:25 PM

    The national perspective on the Rams’ WR corps still seems to be that there are no real playmakers. Why do Snead/Fisher feel good about their options on the outside especially considering Quick has still yet to prove he is 100% healthy?
    by Tackleberry 2:26 PM

    They’re banking that Quick will pick up where he left off, that Britt will continue to play like he did last year, and that Austin and Bailey continue to improve. Plus, they have a pretty good idea of what to expect from Cook and Kendricks at tight end. And they’re hoping they’ll be catching passes from a first-string QB most if not all of preseason.
    by jthomas 2:30 PM

    any word on how the 3 FA RB’s, Brown Laskey and Franks looked during rookie camp?
    by Run Ram Run 2:30 PM

    Nothing yet. Today was their first full practice and was not open to the media.
    by jthomas 2:30 PM

    Do you think Bradford will have a tougher adjustment to the philly O, or foles to the STL O? Thanks
    by Paul 2:30 PM

    I don’t think it’ll be too tough for either. Remember, Bradford has his former OC as a rookie, Pat Shurmur, in the same role in Philly. So that will make the transition easier.
    by jthomas 2:31 PM

    Jim: I have hopes for more simple offense with better execution… have you interviewed the New OC yet … any insights to how he thinks? Everyone knowing what to do on every play was a problem at times for the rams.
    by Jeff In Utah 2:31 PM

    Yes, I wrote a couple of stories on Cignetti right after he was hired. He’s run-oriented, yet flexible. His overall philosophy isn’t that different from Fisher. He does want a simpler playbook with simpler terminology.
    by jthomas 2:33 PM

    Jim – Is it just me or has the Raiders to STL chatter died down considerably?
    by McGarrett 2:33 PM

    Two factors at play here. The seeming progress of the Carson project, and Mark Davis saying he was not interested in moving to St. Louis.
    by jthomas 2:34 PM

    Any word on pending FA Justin Blalok?
    by Matt in SC 2:35 PM

    I’ve heard nothing in the way of updates at this point.
    by jthomas 2:35 PM

    Jim, if I gave 500 million each to St. Louis, San Diego, and Oakland for stadium construction, would I be on Stan’s Christmas card list?
    by Jimbo 2:36 PM

    No sir.
    by jthomas 2:36 PM

    The player on offense with the most potential to gain pro-bowl/all-pro status is ______
    by willeyeam 2:36 PM

    A healthy Gurley. And probably a healthy Saffold.
    by jthomas 2:36 PM

    Hi Jim, If you were Nick Foles would you make sure your insurance policies are up to date? The ol could be very painful for him.
    by Rick 2:36 PM

    He needs to get the ball out quick.
    by jthomas 2:37 PM

    Roger Saffold: Any hopes of him playing RG, not LG this year .. he is great pulling to the left from the right side, looked lost, slow, tentative pulling right from the left ..
    by Jeff In Utah 2:37 PM

    I guess it’s possible. We’ll see where he lines up in OTAs.
    by jthomas 2:37 PM

    So what’s your take on Policy spearheading the Carson project? Seems like he is openly challenging Kroenke to prove why he deserves to be in Los Angeles and not the Chargers/Raiders.
    by Den 2:37 PM

    Policy certainly gives the Carson project more credibility, and he still has contacts in the league.
    by jthomas 2:38 PM

    i don’t understand why you would not share all the information you have about the rams stadium situation with your readers. this is not national security nor are any lives at stake. public dollars are being spent for this stadium development effort. why withhold information you have that we don’t have from this discussion?
    by branford76 2:38 PM

    Over the course of a story, any long-term story really, you are told things by sources that are off the record. In order to develop those sources, you have to play ball to a certain extent. You have to build up an element off trust.
    by jthomas 2:40 PM

    What do you mean by “clip and save” ??
    by stlrams4ever 2:40 PM

    In other words, remember it, and let’s see if it’s true in a few months.
    by jthomas 2:41 PM

    I’m looking through Cignetti’s Bio and I see he was with Cal Bears and DeSean Jackson when they were averaging 33 points a game. Do you see him opening up the offense (a little) and utilizing Austin and bailey in the same fashion, or is Fisher going to keep a tight leash on the offense?
    by PURE ADRENALINE 2:41 PM

    Again, I believe the basic philosophy won’t be much different.
    by jthomas 2:42 PM

    Over/under 45,000 in attendance for opening day?
    by Dr D 2:42 PM

    I’ll say tickets distributed will be over. Not sure about actual in-house attendance.
    by jthomas 2:43 PM

    Hi Jim, Thanks for all that you do for the cause of professional football for St. Louis! I keep picking up bits and pieces from Twitter sources, Post Dispatch and others that the NFL behind the scenes is more than frustrated with how Mr. Kroenke has gone about his business through all of this. Is there anything to that? Thanks and Go ST. LOUIS Rams!
    by Dan, the Lineman 2:43 PM

    I think there’s something to what you’re saying. Whether it turns out to be a major factor in how things unfold, I’m not sure.
    by jthomas 2:44 PM

    If Carson gets approval and the Rams have to stay in St. Louis, does Kroenke say “I don’t want to spend $450 million on a new stadium. Keep playing in the Dome.”
    by Tom R 2:44 PM

    Don’t think he would turn down an opportunity to play in a new stadium.
    by jthomas 2:44 PM

    In house attendance barely 40K, you can take that to the bank
    by Dr D 2:45 PM

    We’ll see.
    by jthomas 2:45 PM

    How much do you expect Foles to play in preseason? Will he need more reps than a holdover starter?
    by Ryan 2:46 PM

    You would think so, but Fisher in the past has been pretty conservative about playing his top starters very much in the preseason.
    by jthomas 2:47 PM

    Jim, Jack Robinson says he was the best player on the Blue Raider’s in ’03. No way that can be true. The dude was a Little League bench warmer, right?
    by Kevin 2:48 PM

    Jack was a very good all-around player, but no one could punt and run the bases like Kevin Robinson.
    by jthomas 2:49 PM

    Do you think there are any negative effects from the Rams waiting to start OTAs later than every other club in the NFL?
    by Benadict Arnold 2:49 PM

    No.
    by jthomas 2:49 PM

    Fisher’s decision to jettison SB or front office?
    by Don 2:49 PM

    I wonder about that one. Only because even Fisher was telling close associates that he thought the Rams would get a deal done with Bradford.
    by jthomas 2:50 PM

    Just for the record. I am a DIE HARD RAMS FAN in California. When they moved to St. Louis I was deflated, But I stick with my TEAM, not the owner, and I hope all the RAMS FANS in St. Louis would do the same if they moved back to California. But I do understand if they jump ship if Rams are back in Cali and another team moves into St. Louis. But for now GO RAMS wherever they end up!!
    by PURE ADRENALINE 2:51 PM

    If another team had moved into the market in 1996, or shortly thereafter _ say that expansion team LA was supposed to get that became the Houston Texans _ would you have remained a Rams fan.
    by jthomas 2:52 PM

    Suppose the Rams do leave, should St. Louis be entitled to all or a part of the “relocation” fee extracted by the NFL to help replace lost tax revenue and jobs? Or will that money just be divvied up between the other B/Millionaire owners?
    by Benadict Arnold 2:52 PM

    That money goes to the owners and the league. St. Louis won’t see any of it.
    by jthomas 2:52 PM

    How close does Kronke stay on the operations of the team?
    by Don 2:53 PM

    I assume you mean day-to-day operations. He’s pretty aware of what’s going on. But let’s face it, it’s not the same as having an owner on site most of the time.
    by jthomas 2:53 PM

    JT – Why no Sunday or Monday night Games for the Rams? Do you think attendance was a part of the decision?
    by Captain Obvious 2:54 PM

    Lack of success, I’m sure, was the main issue.
    by jthomas 2:54 PM

    I know this probably gets asked every chat, but any insights into the Blalock situation? Hurt? Asking too much? Moved beyond?
    by Michael 2:55 PM

    Just not in a hurry to sign. Looking for the right fit. And we’re not talking about Will Shields here, although his experience would be a plus.
    by jthomas 2:56 PM

    Good Day Jim, Now that the Rams D is loaded over or under 60 sacks for the season?
    by OzyRamsFan 2:57 PM

    60 is a big number. I’ll say under.
    by jthomas 2:57 PM

    Hi Jim, what’s your opinion on this late start to OTAs? Good common sense move or gimmick?
    by steve 2:57 PM

    No big deal. They’ve started this late the past couple of years under Fisher.
    by jthomas 2:58 PM

    Have you heard what’s to become of the Union Light & Power Building? I think the art work showed this a Rams team store but this is too big a building for only a team store. I’m thinking a Rams themed bar/restaurant would be great. At Lambeau Field in GB they have Curly’s and I’m thinking we could have something like that. I haven’t heard any details on this building. Are they holding out on that to potentially use that as a bargaining chip for Stan Kroenke?
    by Terry 2:58 PM

    I think that’s all to be determined. The team’s got to be here first.
    by jthomas 2:59 PM

    Granted the financing is finalized, I would be shocked if the owners voted to leave 400 million in public dollars on the table and let Stan move the team. One owner is quoted as saying Goodell won’t let that happen. To be at 43-57 they are leaving while there is plenty of optimism Peacock will get it done, you must know something we don’t that is very negative towards the deal getting done. Any hints?
    by stlrams4ever 2:59 PM

    Why should I change the percentage until something happens in terms of financing and land acquisition? It makes no sense.
    by jthomas 3:00 PM

    Will you attend the Rams games as a reporter IF they move to LA?
    by Sam Bentley 3:00 PM

    That’s not really my call. Up to my editors. Perhaps the opener in LA.
    by jthomas 3:01 PM

    Jim – I’m 100% behind the Rams getting a new stadium, but I am curious why you only hear about old stadiums being a problem in certain cities. The Buffalo Bills play in a stadium from the 70’s and you never here about it. Why is it an issue in certain cities but not others?
    by Ryan 3:01 PM

    The Rams have that “first-tier” clause in their stadium lease. That’s what’s forcing this whole relocation issue _ not the condition or age of the stadium.
    by jthomas 3:03 PM

    Best season Mariota or Winston?
    by Don 3:03 PM

    Winston. Has better talent around him.
    by jthomas 3:03 PM

    Which of the recently drafted rookies will start/make a meaningful contribution, in your opinion. Put differently, who should I watch for among them?
    by MJ 3:03 PM

    Check back with me in mid-August.
    by jthomas 3:04 PM

    WHEN DO THINK THERE WILL AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE POSSIBLE MOVE TO LA BY THE RAMS? BEFORE DEC. OR EARLY NEXT YEAR? AND IF THEY DON’T MOVE DO YOU THINK THE CHARGERS OR RAIDERS WILL BE HERE IN 2016
    by LAFAN 3:04 PM

    I think we’ll have a pretty good idea by the end of the calendar year.
    by jthomas 3:05 PM

    Jim, What happened to the lawsuit filed in St. Louis. I thought that it was to be held last week. Any updates.
    by Ramsfan 3:05 PM

    The initial hearing was canceled last week, per judges request. I think he was under the weather.
    by jthomas 3:05 PM

    If Carson works out, can Kroenke keep going year to year at the Dome, to see what other opportunities pop up in the next 5 years? (London?)
    by bh 3:06 PM

    That’s an interesting thought. In theory he could, but why would he turn his back on the possibility of a new stadium.
    by jthomas 3:07 PM

    Your predictions on NFC West?
    by Don 3:07 PM

    1.) Seattle; 2.) Arizona; 3.) St. Louis; 4.) San Fran.
    by jthomas 3:07 PM

    Is the Post-Dispatch moving into another building downtown? Do you have a desk there? Or do you basically work from home and Rams Park?
    by Rock15 3:07 PM

    Yes, we’re moving to another building. Haven’t had a desk there in years. Work either at Rams Park, on the road, or occasionally at home.
    by jthomas 3:08 PM

    Hey Jim,
    Do you stay in touch with former Ram players?
    Could you call Kurt, Isaac or Marshall if you wanted to?
    by isiah58 3:08 PM

    Of course.
    by jthomas 3:08 PM

    In regards to the Rams staying or going. What do you need to see that would change your % one way or another?
    by DJM34 3:08 PM

    Concrete news on land acquisition and financing.
    by jthomas 3:09 PM

    Does it concern you that Atlanta chose former Ram Mike Persons over Justin Blalock?
    by Tom R 3:09 PM

    No.
    by jthomas 3:09 PM

    Jim hopefully Fisher has the team ready to play against Seattle. First game last year they did not look ready. Been to training camp the last two years; looks like a country club atmosphere. They do not seem to work that hard. Any Thoughts?
    by Bart 3:09 PM

    It was shocking how unprepared the Rams looked in last year’s opener. Hopefully that changes this year.
    by jthomas 3:10 PM

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    They’ve been unprepared each of the last 3 seasons.
    by Dr D 3:11 PM

    Well, they won their opener in 2013 vs. Arizona.
    by jthomas 3:11 PM

    Why is Bill McLellan writing that the stadium deal is dead? Does he have Goodell in his hip pocket?
    by Rock15 3:12 PM

    I would expect nothing less from Bill.
    by jthomas 3:12 PM

    Jim – Guessing land acquisition would come before financing. Both in fall or land in late Summer?
    by McGarrett 3:12 PM

    Yeah, land first. I would think that could be done by end of summer.
    by jthomas 3:13 PM

    Your choice owner like Kronke or Jones?
    by Don 3:14 PM

    I’d take Jones any day.
    by jthomas 3:14 PM

    Hi Jim–are you more or less optimistic about the Rams than you were before the draft and the Bradford/Foles trade?
    by c_good 3:20 PM

    About the same.
    by jthomas 3:20 PM

    Hey Jim, Is the best chance of the Rams staying here turning out to be the Carson Project? If that is approved, will StanK then set his eyes on buying the Raiders or Broncos in your opinion? Thanks
    by STL45Fan 3:20 PM

    Certainly, St. Louisans hoping the Rams stay here should be rooting for Carson. If Carson happens, there’s no guarantee Davis will sell the Raiders. Denver would solve Stan’s cross-ownership issues, but there are no guarantees Broncos will sell either. Stan could be stuck with the Rams.
    by jthomas 3:24 PM

    Welcome back, Jim! Missed ya! I’m hearing reports that T Rob Havenstein and G Jamon Brown were over drafted by as much as 3 rounds early? Have you seen same? Can you report on contrary scouting?
    by bfulton 3:24 PM

    I don’t know if Havenstein was over-drafted, but I’d say Brown was. But not by three rounds.
    by jthomas 3:25 PM

    Jim – If the Rams leave would the post start covering the Chiefs?
    by Ryan 3:26 PM

    Doubt it.
    by jthomas 3:26 PM

    Did the Rams always intend to target DT Fairley or was that a surprise opportunity? Did it throw original plans to sign, say, free agent Olinemen?
    by bfulton 3:26 PM

    I think Fairley was in their plans all along. I don’t think it affected any plans to sign offensive linemen.
    by jthomas 3:27 PM

    Any Bud Sasser sightings? I have heard that he wasn’t around Ram’s Park much since the rookie orientation.
    by joe 3:28 PM

    Last I was told, he still hadn’t passed physical, and thus hasn’t been cleared to play.
    by jthomas 3:28 PM

    As we all try to see the future, which forthcoming step do you think will be the most telling indicator of a move? Before any official announcement of course.
    by Jack Reynolds 3:29 PM

    To a large degree, I still think this is in the hands of the stadium task force. If they get the land, and nail down the financing, I believe the Rams have a good chance of staying. If they don’t _ say good-bye to the Rams in St. Louis. This should crystallize in the fall.
    by jthomas 3:32 PM

    Jim, With Fisher not liking to start rookies on opening day, how many rookies start the opener on the O line 0,1 or 2 ?
    by OzyRamsFan 3:34 PM

    I’m going with 1 _ Havenstein.
    by jthomas 3:34 PM

    How sincere do you think Stan Kroenke was when he stated how dedicated he was to St. Louis when he gained full ownership of the team in 2010? It seems odd that his “dedication” would evaporate just over the failed negotiations with the CVC.
    by Freddy Kreuger 3:34 PM

    He seemed sincere at the time. He hasn’t been very patient since.
    by jthomas 3:35 PM

    Hi Jim, I saw a stat that 2nd round pick Havenstein benched 225lbs 16 times at the combine. That seems extremely low he a guy that weighs 330. Makes me wonder how he’ll do against linemen that are a lot stronger than him. Hopefully I read it wrong….do you recall what it was and if true, what that might mean for him at the next level? Thanks!
    by Greg 3:37 PM

    No, 16 is the correct number of reps at the combine for Havenstein in the 225-pound bench press. You’d expect more for someone with a road-grader reputation.
    by jthomas 3:38 PM

    Maybe the QB change will show if Bradford was the issue or not. But I’m very happy with our WR group. I won’t be surprised if our points score total is up 20 – 25 this year.
    by PURE ADRENALINE 3:39 PM

    It might. But I think the early concern is whether there will be enough protection for Foles with such an inexperienced offensive line.
    by jthomas 3:40 PM

    Thanks for the chats JT! Always engaging. Though there are a myriad of scenarios that could play out ultimately regarding the Rams staying or relocating, it seems to me that if SD is able to negotiate a new stadium site for the Chargers, the Carson deal is dead. Then, Inglewood becomes the choice of preference for the NFL and thus the Rams. Assuming that the Raiders can’t finance a stadium in Carson alone, what could possibly deter the owners from approving Kroenke’s project? Thoughts?
    by Knux 3:41 PM

    I’ll have to see it to believe it on the San Diego stadium front.
    by jthomas 3:42 PM

    Can a team in so much turmoil, will they stay or will they go, be able to focus enough on the game to make a run to the playoffs?
    by bjf 3:42 PM

    That’s the question isn’t it?
    by jthomas 3:42 PM

    Hopefully the defense decides to play 16 games this season. I live in Philly and saw Foles play. If he gets time he is great. Do u think the OL aqusitions in the draft will give him that time
    by mla 3:43 PM

    Very debatable whether OL draft picks will be able to give Foles enough time this year.
    by jthomas 3:44 PM

    Can Stedman Bailey beat out Quick on the outside, or is his primary competition with his former MVU teammate in the slot?
    by YoMurphy 3:44 PM

    I believe the Rams coaches would prefer Quick in the starting lineup because of his size.
    by jthomas 3:45 PM

    In 2005, when Georgia waved her right to the stadium clause that the Dome had to be in the top quartile, was the Dome out of the top quartile at the time do you think? And, is there a legal document that was written, filed, or signed waving the right to this and I’m wondering what was written by the Rams about that and does it have any bearing on the case the Rams are trying to make now.
    by Terry 3:45 PM

    There were so many stadiums built or massively renovated between 1995-2005, I don’t think the Dome would’ve been in the top 8 in 2005. I don’t know if there was anything in writing by the Rams waving that right.
    by jthomas 3:47 PM

    You think Stan might just be using Inglewood as leverage to get a new stadium in St. Louis? Or is Stan hellbent on LA.
    by Keith 3:48 PM

    I believe Stan is way past the leverage stage.
    by jthomas 3:48 PM

    Hi Jim, Connecticut Rams fan since 1973, Why not go for it and put a retractable roof on the St.Louis new stadium Say to get a Super Bowl?
    by Tim m 3:48 PM

    If you do that, then you’ve got to come up with an extra $300 million. The Task Force is having a tough enough time getting to $985 million.
    by jthomas 3:49 PM

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    Have read the discussions regarding the Rams losing Chris Long after this season due to cap considerations. Seems as if we are just getting close to putting together a competitive team, then we face losing some of the talent we’ve accumulated over the years. Fairley will also be a possible loss. Any others that come to mind?
    by Michael 3:49 PM

    Janoris Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson, William Hayes, Eugene Sims, Rodney McLeod, and Brian Quick also have contracts scheduled to expire after the 2015 season.
    by jthomas 3:50 PM

    Do you think Fairley is a long term starter for the Rams or just this year?
    by Terry 3:51 PM

    I’m gonna say a one-year rental. If he plays really well, the Rams will have a tough time keeping him beyond 2015.
    by jthomas 3:52 PM

    JT…good coverage, considering the 800 pound gorilla, in the room…how is the Marketing Team going to “sell” The Rams…? Or, since it’s the NFL, it won’t matter…???
    by Norm Van Brocklin 3:53 PM

    I think we’re all curious to see how many fans actually show up once the games start.
    by jthomas 3:53 PM

    would it seem most players want a move or do they comment?
    by Don 3:55 PM

    I’m sure a lot of the younger, single players would enjoy playing in LA.
    by jthomas 3:55 PM

    Jim, will you be at the Coach Fisher Softball Event? and I want to remind all the Rams fans to come out and have a good showing of support so we can keep the Rams in St.Louis beyond 2015.
    by Terry 3:56 PM

    I have a radio show obligation from 6-7 p.m. that day, but may join the festivities in progress..
    by jthomas 3:56 PM

    This is all going to come down to if the financing is in place by the time the big decisions are going to be made isn’t it? StLouis gets the financing=Owners vote for Carson…none in place=Inglewood it is?
    by Shackleferd 3:57 PM

    Don’t know how often I can stress it _ financing is key.
    by jthomas 3:57 PM

    I DO NOT RECALL SEEING AUSTIN, BAILEY AND GIVENS ON THE FIELD AT THE SAME TIME, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING WITH MASON AND GURLEY IN THE BACK FIELD AS WELL. HARD TO DEFEND. WOOPS SORRY FOR ALL CAPS 🙂
    by PURE ADRENALINE 3:58 PM

    Well, Givens was barely on the field at all last year, so you’re probably right.
    by jthomas 3:58 PM

    We find endless optimism for OL draft picks but forget about candidates like B Jones. If he’s healthy, shouldn’t he be ready to step in and be at least better than Wells?
    by flagthrower 3:58 PM

    It looks like that’s the plan _ for Barrett Jones to have first crack at starting job.
    by jthomas 3:59 PM

    Any chance San Diego and St. Louis get stadium deals done locally, and the NFL decides to expand to LA giving Kroenke the rights to own the expansion team?
    by Kip 3:59 PM

    There is no movement for expansion in the league at this time.
    by jthomas 3:59 PM

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    Sad desperate history of Rams OL injury years? There are a few seasons that sort of qualify for that. Here I do 2007, 2009, & 2011.

    Each of those years had their own special injury hell.

    In 2011, they fielded 9 starting OL, and (by my quick count) 8 different OL combinations.

    The starters included Saffold Bell Brown Dahl Smith Goldberg Wragge LeVoir Mattison

    That’s not really the whole story. Because of constant shuffling, some started more than one position. Dahl for example had to shift to right tackle. Brown got benched and then had to come back at guard. They started 3 different left tackles—Saffold Levoir Goldberg.

    The week 1 OL was

    Saffold Bell Brown Dahl Smith

    The week 17 OL was

    LeVoir Brown Wragge Mattison Dahl

    With lots of variations in between.

    Of the 5 in the week 17 OL, 3 were out of football after that season and 1 more lasted just 1 more year. Only Dahl kept playing, though not at ROT.

    All this was compounded by 2 things.

    1. They were playing an entirely new offensive scheme without benefit of an off-season. On top of it, McD was not patient with it—when installing the offense over the summer, he would go over something one day and then move on the next. (In 2012, players remarked on how unlike the year before they would review things as a part of installing the new system, and this was contrasted with 2011). As a result, the OL began the season about as out of sync as I have ever seen them. There were times when a pulling guard and the center wouldn’t have their timing down and one would actually trip the other.

    2. Both Bell and Brown were out of it mentally. After the season, in fact, both had offers and yet both left football. Brown actually got benched, as I said, yet they needed to bring him back. I think Brown’s brother being killed as a soldier overseas shook him up. That was the season also where Jason Smith hung it up mentally—if you recall he was getting neck and head injuries and was checking out mentally because it didn’t seem worth it to him, it was scary to him.

    In 2009, it was 9 starters and 7 OL combinations. One loss wasn’t an injury—they cut Incognito.

    Barron Bell Brown Incognito Smith Goldberg Setterstrom Greco Allen.

    In 2007,, the mother of all OL injury years, it was 12 different starters and 8 different OL combinations. They had 5 different OL combinations in the 1st 5 games….6 in the 1st 8 games.

    Pace Setterstrom Romberg M.Brown (at both OG and OT)Barron Terrell Goldberg Incognito McCollum (at both center and guard) Gorin Lecky Steussie

    ….2007 had 14 OL on the roster, in the end.


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    So far that leaves out 2006, 2008, 2012, and 2014.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/biden-announces-death-son-beau-brain-cancer-015713117–politics.html

    Beau Biden dies at 46; son of VP had life of adversity
    Associated Press By RANDALL CHASE
    2 hours ago

    DOVER, Del. (AP) — He was the privileged son of a longtime U.S. senator and two-term vice president, yet Joseph R. “Beau” Biden III was no stranger to personal adversity

    When he was only 3, just weeks after his father, Joe Biden, had been elected to the Senate, the younger Biden was seriously injured in a 1972 car crash that killed his mother and infant sister. His father was sworn into office at his hospital bedside.

    As a young college student, not long after his father’s 1987 presidential campaign imploded among allegations of plagiarism, he was back in the hospital, holding vigil with other family members as Joe Biden underwent surgery for a life-threatening aneurysm.

    And after launching his own successful political career, Beau Biden was dogged by health problems. In 2010, he suffered a mild stroke at the age of 41.

    On Saturday, Beau Biden died of brain cancer, less than two years after he was diagnosed. He was 46.

    Although twice elected attorney general, the younger Biden never realized the dream of many Delaware political observers that he would follow in his father’s footsteps as a U.S. senator, and perhaps even become governor.

    Biden did, in fact, plan to run for governor in 2016. He made the announcement in an April 2014 email to supporters in which he also noted he would not seek re-election as Delaware attorney general.

    The announcement caught Delaware’s political establishment off guard, and also renewed questions about Biden’s health. In the ensuing months, he kept a low public profile and declined news media requests for interviews.

    “I think he would have run. I think he would have won,” said Delaware Gov. Jack Markell, a fellow Democrat. Markell said he last spoke to Biden in February, when he invited him to a meeting of Democratic governors in Washington, D.C.

    “He was serious” about running for governor, added New Castle County Executive Tom Gordon, a longtime friend and political ally of Joe Biden who described Beau Biden as the most popular politician in Delaware. “He thought he was going to win this battle.”

    Gordon said he last spoke to Beau several weeks ago, when Biden participated in a conference call on crime issues in Wilmington.

    “He was a rock star,” Gordon said. “He had a great image, great character.”

    President Barack Obama said he and his wife, Michelle, were grieving alongside the Biden family.

    “Michelle and I humbly pray for the good Lord to watch over Beau Biden, and to protect and comfort his family here on Earth,” Obama said in a separate statement. The Obamas visited the vice president and his family at their official residence, the Naval Observatory, on Sunday afternoon.

    After leaving office earlier this year, Biden joined a Delaware law firm run by Stuart Grant, a prominent Democratic campaign donor and plaintiffs lawyer specializing in corporate litigation. The law firm announced late last month that Biden was expanding his work on behalf of whistleblower clients, but Biden was not available for comment.

    Biden, a University of Pennsylvania graduate, earned a law degree from Syracuse University in 1994. He served as a law clerk for a federal judge in New Hampshire before working for the U.S. Department of Justice from 1995 until 2002, including five years as a federal prosecutor in Philadelphia. In 2001, he volunteered for an interim assignment helping to train judges and prosecutors in postwar Kosovo.

    With his father, then Delaware’s senior U.S. senator, at his side in 2006, Biden launched his campaign for attorney general. He promised to reorganize the state Department of Justice to better combat identity theft, Internet stalking by pedophiles, street crime and abuse of the elderly.

    Politically astute, photogenic and backed by his father’s political machine, Biden won with 52.6 percent of the vote.

    “He’s supped at this table since he’s been 3 years old,” a beaming Joe Biden said after the victory. Beau Biden was a toddler when his father was first elected to the Senate.

    “I’m just proud of him,” the elder Biden added. “I think he will make the state proud.”

    During the campaign, however, the younger Biden sidestepped questions about his ultimate political ambitions.

    “Sometimes, it’s not good to look too far down the road,” said Biden, who remained similarly cautious about discussing his long-range plans in an interview with The Associated Press after suffering the stroke in 2010.

    “Having long-term dreams is a good thing … but having a plan has never worked for me, because life always intervenes,” Biden told the AP at the time. For Biden, his initial health scare was also a reminder to balance his job with family time — advice he encouraged others to follow.

    “It’s kind of reinforced how I’ve operated my life,” he said.

    As attorney general, Biden established a child predator unit, joined other attorneys general in taking on mortgage lenders over foreclosure abuses, proposed tougher bail restrictions for criminal defendants, and defended the death penalty, putting him at odds with some fellow Democrats.

    But a spate of shootings in Biden’s hometown of Wilmington went largely unabated during his tenure, and his office stumbled in some high-profile murder prosecutions, including two cases in which murder charges were dropped. Biden also faced scrutiny over how his office handled the case of Earl Bradley, a pediatrician who sexually assaulted scores of young patients over more than a decade before being arrested in December 2009.

    Biden cited his focus on the Bradley case in announcing in January 2010 that he would not run for the Senate seat that his father vacated in 2008 when he was elected vice president.

    The younger Biden’s decision stunned political observers, including many fellow Democrats who thought Joe Biden’s former chief of staff, Ted Kaufman, had been appointed to the Senate on an interim basis to keep the seat warm for the son. A fellow Democrat, New Castle County Executive Chris Coons, won the seat after Castle, who had been considered the odds-on favorite, was upset by tea party-backed Christine O’Donnell in the GOP primary.

    “I have no regrets,” Biden said after O’Donnell’s stunning primary victory scrambled the political calculus surrounding the Senate seat.

    Biden coasted to re-election as attorney general in 2010 after Republicans declined to field a candidate against him.

    In addition to his work as a lawyer and attorney general, Biden was a major in an Army National Guard unit that deployed to Iraq in 2008.

    Beau Biden is survived by his wife, Hallie, and children Natalie, 11, and Hunter, 9, along with his father and stepmother, a brother and sister, a sister-in-law and brother-in-law, and three nieces.

    Funeral arrangements were not announced. Beau Biden is entitled to military funeral honors, said Lt. Col. Len Gratteri, a spokesman for the Delaware National Guard.

    ___

    Associated Press Writer Darlene Superville in Washington contributed to this report.

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    “…Among professional athletes, the number of ACL injuries has soared…”

    http://grantland.com/features/derrick-rose-rob-gronkowski-rise-acl-tears/
    The Nastiest Injury in Sports

    Gronk was just the latest victim. Why are ACL tears on the rise?
    by Neal Gabler on December 10, 2013

    To be honest, it doesn’t look like much. It’s short, just over an inch in length, and stubby, about half an inch wide. It is white, slick, and striated like a cluster of angel-hair pasta. It isn’t rubbery, and it doesn’t have much elasticity. In fact, you wouldn’t give it a second thought — not until it self-destructed, which it occasionally does, always at the most inopportune of times. And then you wouldn’t think about much else but that gremlin that now sits at the center of so many of our games. It was there when Kansas City Chiefs safety Bernard Pollard dove at Tom Brady’s knee on the 15th offensive snap of the Patriots’ season in 2008. It was there in December 2011 when Adrian Peterson went up the middle for three yards in the third quarter. It was there when Derrick Rose landed awkwardly during the first game of the 2012 playoffs, making him grimace in agony and sending him to the sidelines for over a year. It was there two years ago when Mariano Rivera was shagging flies in Kansas City and tripped over the apron to the warning track, ending his season. It was there just this last weekend when Cleveland Browns safety T.J. Ward crashed into the knee of Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski. It has been there for Mickey Mantle, Wes Welker, Jerry Rice, Ricky Rubio, Donovan McNabb, Craig Biggio, and Tiger Woods, to name just a handful. That gremlin is always there — just waiting to pop.

    Lately, though, it seems to have been acting up a lot — so much so that one might even say the three most important letters in sports are not NFL, NBA, MLB, or NHL but ACL, as in the dreaded anterior cruciate ligament, that little bundle of collagen right at the center of your knee. It is that bundle that tears apart, leaving athletes to scream, cry, and pound the turf or court in frustration and torment. There are nearly 400,000 ACL repair procedures each year in the United States — a disproportionate number of them for women, who are seven or eight times more likely to tear their ACLs than men. If there has been an uptick in ACL injuries among the general population, says Dr. Brian Cole, the Chicago Bulls’ team physician and the surgeon who performed Derrick Rose’s reconstructive surgery, it is because more people, especially young people, are participating in sports. “You’re seeing more exposure to high-risk activities,” says Dr. Cole, “and you’re seeing a different level of athleticism that’s probably contributing.” But that’s the general population — you and me. Among professional athletes, the number of ACL injuries has soared. When Rose went down with his ACL tear, he was, according to Basketball Prospectus, the first true star to have done so since Danny Manning tore his ACL in 1995, and Manning was the first since Bernard King tore his in 1985. Then came the deluge. Though the NBA refuses to release information on ACL tears, by one tally, seven guards suffered tears after Rose, including Iman Shumpert, who tore his the same day as Rose; Rajon Rondo; and Leandro Barbosa. Ricky Rubio tore his ACL just a month before Rose.

    Where the number of tears seems to hit epidemic proportions is in the NFL. Professional football doesn’t release ACL figures, either, but Kevin Seifert of ESPN.com discovered that as of October 23, 30 players had been placed on injured reserve because of ACL tears — topping the 25 for all of 2011 and edging close to the 32 for all of 2012. As early as this year’s NFL training camps, ACLs were snapping all over the place.

    But here is the thing about ACL tears: They’re not just another injury. They are the Godzilla of injuries. They are painful beyond tolerance, they take eons to rehab, and they always leave a lingering doubt in the athlete’s mind that he will ever be whole again. An ACL tear tests one’s mettle. An ACL tear goes to the very heart of resilience and mental toughness. An ACL tear is the standard against which the athlete himself measures his determination. An ACL tear is the absolute limit.

    The Sickening “Pop”

    The ACL sits in the middle of the knee, in a notch on the femur or thigh bone on the top and in another notch on the tibia or shinbone on the bottom. It is between the medial collateral ligament on the inside of the knee and the lateral collateral ligament on the outside, both of which keep the knee from moving from side to side. It is in front of the posterior cruciate ligament, which keeps the tibia from sliding back behind the femur. (PCLs don’t rip much because — thankfully — there aren’t too many occasions in sports where the knee goes backward.) The knee itself is covered in front by the patella, or kneecap, a kind of cup that is connected to the femur by the quadriceps tendon and to the tibia by the patellar tendon.1 The function of all these parts is to hold the femur and tibia together so they don’t slip apart. Because if they do, frankly, you won’t be able to walk.

    Rob Gronkowski

    Theoretically, an athlete couldn’t function without an intact ACL, at least not any athlete who had to pivot or make sharp turns or accelerate or decelerate quickly. The ACL is what makes these movements possible by limiting the range of motion the knee can accommodate. It is a kind of restrictor, and when it pops, it is because the athlete has overridden the restrictor. (Baseball players don’t tear their ACLs often because baseball is a linear sport without sharp turns; it doesn’t require a player to juke the way football, basketball, and soccer do. Baseball players work within the restriction of their joint.) But here’s the rub: The ACL is not only the weakest of the four ligaments that connect the femur and tibia, it is the weakest ligament in the entire body. And professional athletes subject that stub of weak collagen to all sorts of forces it was not designed to withstand.2

    Athletes talk about hearing the pop. Some describe it as a sound like a rubber band snapping. Some say you not only hear the pop the way you hear ordinary sounds, but that it travels up your body from the knee, so that your whole trunk reverberates with it.

    It doesn’t take much to “pop” the ACL, which is typically what happens when the ACL tears. Athletes talk about hearing the pop. Some describe it as a sound like a rubber band snapping. Some say you not only hear the pop the way you hear ordinary sounds, but that it travels up your body from the knee so that your whole trunk reverberates with it. There is no mistaking that pop. Just about every athlete knows immediately what it means. Dr. Cole says that for all the MRIs and other sophisticated tests devised to determine if one has torn his or her ACL, the surest sign is still the “pop” and the swelling that almost invariably follows when the blood vessels in the knee bleed into the joint. And, of course, the pain — the unbearable pain that knifes through your leg.

    It is not uncommon to think the pop is the result of violence, of a hit to the knee that jars it and snaps the ligament. And sometimes it is — to wit, Brady and Peterson. But the vast majority of ACL tears are not a product of contact. If you saw Reggie Wayne, all alone in the flat without a defender within 10 yards of him, turning to the ball and then suddenly crumpling to the turf during the Broncos-Colts game earlier this year, you know. Just about every ACL tear comes about when a player is twisting, trying to avoid contact or to deceive a defender, and then plants his leg in such a way that he has increased the torque on the ACL, bending it as it was not intended to bend. Essentially, it is the juke that will kill you.

    Dr. Robert Litchfield, medical director of the Fowler Kennedy Sport Medicine Clinic at the University of Western Ontario and part of the Canadian Alpine Ski Team medical group, studied videotape of ACL injuries and found a pattern. He found that those who tore their ACLs all did the exact same thing with their legs when they were avoiding a defender or reacting to an offensive player. “They throw it [the injured limb] out to the side, and they try to make an upper-body move where they move away from the side that they’ve just planted,” he says. “And they get to what we call a `point of no return.’” The knee misaligns, turns inward, and the athlete lands knock-kneed. That is when you hear the pop. That is why, Dr. Litchfield believes, an athlete like LeBron James will never suffer a tear. “When he comes down from a dunk, he comes down very low and powerfully versus coming down on an extended leg.” In short, LeBron’s legs are bowed, and athletes who bow their legs generally don’t tear their ACLs.

    The problem is that athletes in the heat of battle seldom think about how they plant or land. They just do it. And when they do, and their ACL tears, they are basically screwed.

    Battling the Gremlin

    Or, to be more precise, they used to be screwed. If Derrick Rose had suffered his injury 20 or 30 years ago, his career would have ended because doctors wouldn’t have known what to do about it. Which isn’t to say that they hadn’t been trying for a long, long time. According to a French history of ACL surgery, the first ACL repair was performed in 1895 in Leeds, England, on a 41-year-old miner who had a load of dirt fall on him. What the doctor did was stitch the torn ACL ends back together, and the miner claimed he was good as new, though this seems highly unlikely. In 1903, a German doctor performed the first ACL replacement surgery using silk braids for the ligament. No luck. Fourteen years later, an English surgeon named Dr. Ernest W. Hey Groves performed the first ACL reconstruction surgery by harvesting the iliotibial band that runs outside the thigh from the hip to the shin and then affixing it to the femur and tibia with ivory screws. Though the operation was imperfect, that is pretty much the way it was until the 1960s. Then, a Dr. Kenneth Jones of Little Rock, Arkansas, began using the patellar tendon as a graft. ACL It was primitive. Most surgeons opened up the knee, leaving gruesome scars. And the procedure wasn’t standardized. Every surgeon sort of did his or her own thing. What’s more, it wasn’t terribly successful, especially for athletes. It was designed to get patients walking, not faking out linemen on the field or centers on the court. In fact, the surgeons themselves were so distrustful of their own handiwork, so fearful their grafts would rip, they would immobilize the knee in huge casts for months after the surgery — which, as it turned out, only served to stiffen the knee, reduce its range of motion, and shrink the quad muscles in front of the leg. By the time the patients emerged from their casts, they had to rebuild their entire leg musculature from scratch. And that couldn’t be done. It was over.

    And then came Dr. William Clancy. Clancy had been recruited in 1974 to head a sports medicine program at the University of Wisconsin. While attending a lecture on ACL reconstruction by a Swedish physician, he had his Eureka! moment. Since Jones, just about everyone using the patellar tendon had left it attached to the tibia and then routed the tendon through the knee and fixed it to the femur. Clancy said he thought the patellar tendon should be harvested with bone blocks on each end, because it would be more flexible and stronger. He would then drill holes into both the femur and tibia, pull the tendon through, and attach the blocks through the holes. He felt this would more closely approximate the actual ACL. The “Clancy procedure,” albeit with all sorts of tweaks and refinements, remains the basic form of reconstruction to this day.

    It isn’t exactly the most exciting surgery. ACL reconstruction typically takes between 90 minutes and three hours, depending on the skill of the surgeon and the ancillary damage to the knee. Surgeons basically make a small incision (some make two or three), through which they harvest a strip from the middle third of the patellar tendon with the bone blocks at each end. (Some surgeons use hamstring tendons, and others use what is called an “allograft,” which is a tendon from a cadaver.) Then, working through tiny poke holes and guided by an HD camera, they remove the shredded ACL, drill the holes in the femur and tibia, pull the graft through the tunnels with a tiny metal probe, and fasten it at each end with bioabsorbable screws. In about eight months, the tendon “vascularizes” — that is, it is transformed into a ligament and becomes an actual, organic part of the knee. Though some have claimed a reconstructed knee will never be entirely normal, there is good news: The new patellar tendon is stronger than the original ACL. In fact, a Scandinavian registry shows that the rate of re-rupture after an ACL tear is only 10 to 12 percent, which is just about the same rate for an ACL tear in the other knee. But even with all the surgical advances and new medical knowledge, it isn’t easy to return to the pre-tear level. A University of Pennsylvania study found that of 31 NFL running backs and 33 wide receivers who suffered ACL tears between 1998 and 2002, one in five never returned, and those who did were one-third less effective in the three years after surgery. Another study, by Dr. James Andrews, the orthopedic surgeon who performed Adrian Peterson’s reconstruction, found that of 49 NFL players operated on at his clinic from 2001 to 2006, only 64 percent returned to action. Some outstanding backs, like Jamaal Anderson and Terrell Davis, never returned to previous form.

    The ACL can do that to you.

    The Miraculous Return of All Day

    And then there is Adrian Peterson, who has become the poster boy for ACL recovery. Peterson suffered his tear on December 24, 2011. If you had to have an ACL tear, it was nearly impeccable timing. Tearing his at the very end of the season meant he didn’t miss much time in 2011 and that he had a long time to rehab for 2012. And Peterson had another piece of luck, if you can call tearing your ACL luck. He only tore his ACL and MCL. He didn’t have a meniscus issue. As his physical therapist Russ Paine said, “Part of the reason for someone not returning back is not that they’re not trying hard, but it’s the status of the interior of the joint.” A bad joint makes it much harder. According to Paine, Peterson’s knee was pristine.

    Less than nine months after his injury, Peterson was back on the field. That, in itself, wasn’t so unusual. ACL tear recovery usually takes anywhere from nine months to a year. But almost every surgeon or therapist will tell you that when an athlete returns, it takes him awhile to regain his form, typically a year or so. Peterson didn’t just return to form. He began racking up yards, bulling over would-be tacklers, hitting the open field, bobbing and weaving and outrunning everyone. Peterson was a miracle. He finished the season just nine yards shy of the single-season rushing record and he won the MVP award. Not good as new. Better than new. That’s what everyone marveled at. Adrian Peterson In doing this, Peterson set a standard that would bedevil other ACL-tear sufferers. If he could do it, why couldn’t they? (This puts aside the huge question some have raised of whether Peterson had the assistance of PEDs.) Why did Derrick Rose, for example, keep resisting coming back last season when he was allegedly cleared to play by his doctors? Why didn’t all the ACL sufferers just man up the way Peterson had?

    The answer, simply: Every ACL tear is its own private hell with its own particular road back. Vikings trainer Eric Sugarman told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that Peterson was a “disaster” the first two weeks after surgery. “He was about as miserable as a human being could be. He was calling me late at night, texting me with hate messages. He didn’t shave. He lost weight. He hurt.” Sugarman devised an early exercise protocol — days after surgery, Peterson was on a stationary bike, as was Derrick Rose — and handed him off to Russ Paine of the Iron Man Sports Medicine Institute in Houston.

    Paine looks like a marine drill sergeant and is one of the most highly regarded therapists in the business. In the 1970s, he tore both of his ACLs playing high school basketball in Lubbock, Texas. Doctors opened up his knees and used the hamstring tendon and iliotibial band to pull back the tibia. Then he went to a whirlpool and limped off to play again. He would never regain full strength. But Paine admits his own situation is one of the things that pushed him toward a career in physical therapy, where he manages the rehabs of as many as 100 professional athletes a year. What makes him sought after, he thinks, is that where many less-experienced therapists are conservative when it comes to pro athletes, afraid they might push them too hard and wind up reinjuring them, Paine has done this so long, he knows exactly what the threshold is and usually goes right up to it. “They may hurt your feelings,” he would say to his clients of his exercises. “But they won’t hurt your knee.”

    That’s what he did with Peterson — worked him right up to the threshold. Peterson arrived at Paine’s facility at 10 days post-op and stayed six months. Each day he spent 90 minutes to two hours with Paine, then went off and did his core strengthening for hours more. This was the routine five, sometimes six days a week. Paine said other NFLers would watch Peterson and shake their heads in awe. Once Peterson’s quads began to come back — Paine says the quads “melt like butter” after surgery — he would work with Paine for three hours on range of motion and balance before going off to lift weights. Paine said the running back was a “monster” in the training room just as he had been a “monster” on the field.

    “ACL rehab isn’t about bigger muscles,” Paine says, “it is about muscle reeducation.” Peterson had to learn to get his muscles firing with his knee. He did. Less than a month after the tear, Peterson was off his crutches. By March he was running. By early May he was cutting. By May 30, he was racing teammate Percy Harvin. By September he was playing.

    But it’s what you don’t see in ACL rehab that counts just as much as what you do see. An ACL tear is not just a gremlin in the knee; it’s a gremlin in the brain. You have to convince yourself that you can be exactly who you were, and that is very hard to do. Expunging those doubts may have been the biggest part of Derrick Rose’s recovery. He didn’t want to have to think about his knee, and he had to reach the point where he wouldn’t. Clippers guard Jamal Crawford, who tore his ACL in 2001, said he walked with a limp for months even though he knew the reconstructed ACL was stronger than the original. The limp was in his head. As Dr. Litchfield, the Canadian ski team adviser, puts it, when an athlete doesn’t return to his sport, you assume something went wrong with the surgery and that he is physically impaired. But, Litchfield says, examinations don’t show any physical difference between those who return and those who don’t. The issues are likely to be psychological — the non-returners tending to be “higher-anxiety people or more cautious.” They just can’t bury that gremlin once and for all the way Adrian Peterson did.

    The Strange Case of DeJuan Blair

    But Adrian Peterson, remarkable as he is, at least had ACLs. DeJuan Blair was already a schoolboy phenom in Pittsburgh when, the summer before ninth grade, he went up for a block and landed awkwardly on a concrete court, hearing the infamous “pop.” He had to crawl his way to the sideline, writhing. At the hospital, he was diagnosed with a bone bruise, but when he couldn’t walk, he got a second opinion: ACL tear. The Pittsburgh Steelers’ team physician performed his surgery. It was just about a year later, during the high school playoffs, that Blair batted the opening tipoff to an opposing player, raced down the court to block his shot, levitated, landed, and felt the pop again, this time in his left knee. He knew immediately. “That one was gone,” he remembers. There was another surgery. He was on painkillers for three months and would wake up in the middle of the night crying because he wasn’t sure he could make it back again.

    “I wanted to give up on basketball,” he says, “but my mother and my father and my grandmother kept me going — and the love of the game.” He resolved that he would come back stronger. During his junior year, he wore two knee braces to help stabilize the knees, but even though he could play, there was that mental gremlin warning him that they could tear again. DeJuan Blair Which is exactly what happened. He re-tore his right ACL in 11th grade dunking in his coach’s backyard. But this time he dared not go to the hospital because he feared what his parents would say about his trying to dunk on his fragile knees. So he went to a therapist and tried to work through the pain. He did. And then, just before his senior year, he was playing with his brothers on a concrete court in the Hill District, went up for a dunk, landed, and … pop! He limped home, holding in the agony, returned to the therapist, and somehow, the pain subsided. As Blair puts it now, “I was blessed.”

    How blessed not even he knew. He became an All-American at Pittsburgh and runner-up to Blake Griffin as College Player of the Year, then left after his sophomore season to pursue his dream of playing in the NBA. It was at the draft camp in Chicago that his knees were X-rayed and the radiologist delivered the news: Blair had been playing without ACLs. Even Blair said he was “amazed.” He knew he had reinjured the knees, but said he had no idea he had actually torn the ACLs again. Charger quarterback Philip Rivers had played in the 2008 AFC championship game without a right ACL, Pittsburgh wide receiver Hines Ward had played without a left ACL. But no one had ever had a professional career without any ACLs.

    Of course, once teams heard, his draft stock plummeted. Expected to go in the first round, he fell to 37 and the San Antonio Spurs, where he played his way into the rotation. There are several theories of what enabled Blair to play when his knees should have been slipping and sliding. The most convincing is that Blair spent so much time building his quads, hamstrings, and calf muscles that they grew oversize enough to stabilize the knee. Blair himself says he had always worked diligently on his legs — at 6-foot-7 and 270 pounds, he is built like a Transformer — and that he never felt any pain after those first torments or played the game any differently from when he had ACLs. As for the mental part, since he didn’t know he didn’t have functional ACLs, there was nothing to overcome. Now he is on the Mavericks, playing solid minutes and putting up good numbers.

    He says, not unreasonably, that his life would make a good movie.

    Why Women More Than Men?

    We know the proximate cause of ACL tears: that odd foot plant and rotation. But that raises the question of why a trained athlete plants his foot that way when his body should be telling him otherwise — or why, when he does, the ACL can’t withstand the torque, when it seems to have been designed to do so. Theories abound. There is evidence that fatigue plays a role. Most ACL tears occur late in a game when an athlete may be running on fumes, and Dr. Cole, Rose’s surgeon, has published a paper demonstrating that in the NBA, tears typically happen in the second half to players who have heavy minutes. There is some evidence that ACL injuries increased with the rise of artificial playing surfaces, which are less forgiving to the knee than grass, and it is a fact that hockey players suffer fewer ACL tears than basketball, football, or soccer players, in part because they slide along the ice rather than plant, putting less pressure on the knee.

    Then there is the genetic explanation, which has been promoted by Dr. Tarek Souryal, team physician for the Dallas Mavericks. Souryal believes the real culprit is the size of the tunnel or notch within which the ACL sits. When the notch is narrow, the ACL has no maneuverability; according to Souryal, people with narrow notches are 26 times more likely to suffer tears, either because the notches are too small to accommodate a normal-size ACL or because small notches lead to undersize ACLs. (Other doctors dispute this.) In fact, DeJuan Blair said he was told that his ACLs shredded for precisely this reason: They were too small. Other studies show that members of the same family often suffer ACL tears, but doctors are loath to attribute this to genetics. It may be a familial factor — namely, certain families are more athletically active than others and thus more likely to find themselves in situations where they could tear an ACL. And then there is the neurological explanation. According to this analysis, knees have two types of stability: static (the ACL or a graft) and dynamic (the quads and hams around the knee). The quads and hamstrings must fire in concert to keep the knee stable and the ACL from rotating abnormally. But sometimes the muscles don’t fire in concert. Sometimes the synchronicity is off and the muscles don’t compensate for the stress on the ligament, which is what one recent study concluded. Another study found a “latency” in the hamstrings — meaning the hammies were slow to react to a force — and concluded that this contributed to ACL “deficiency.” These studies are especially relevant to female athletes, who are so much more likely to suffer ACL tears than men. The reasons, again, are variable: small notches; a skeletal structure that angles knees inward, especially upon landing after a jump, and inclines tibiae backward where they are less able to take stress; even hormones. The only upside, says Russ Paine, is that, at least anecdotally speaking, women seem to rehab better than men do because, Paine attests, they are just plain tougher in the training room.

    The Brain Problem

    None of this explains, however, why there seem to be more ACL tears than there used to be. And, naturally, there are a whole lot of theories about that, too. Some blame expanded rosters — it used to be that anyone with a compromised ACL would have been weeded out long before arriving at the NBA or NFL. Some blame training. DeJuan Blair thinks that “a lot of people don’t work on their legs,” especially point guards, who are suffering the bulk of the NBA’s ACL tears. They work on their quickness instead. Kevin Wilk, a trainer who has worked closely with Dr. Andrews, agrees about preparation. He has said that NFL players may show up to camp in good condition, but not in football shape, and the shorter training camps only contribute to the problem. In any case, no surgeon or therapist I spoke to knew of a professional football or basketball team that worked on planting drills to diminish ACL stress. Some blame the new NFL rules that force tacklers to aim low rather than high, meaning more hits to the knees. Some blame the evolution of the games themselves. Knicks swingman Iman Shumpert, who suffered an ACL tear, told Ken Berger of cbssports.com, “You watch Bob Cousy and them — they’re running straight lines. Now you’ve got all these crossovers, you’ve got Eurosteps, you’ve got guys like James Harden scooping the ball and making their body scoop low before it comes up. We’re putting different types of stress on our bodies.”

    But there is something else that may help account for the increase. Doctors and trainers call it “proprioception.” Proprioception is how an individual perceives the relationship of the various parts of his or her body to time and space. It is a mind-body issue. Your proprioception is what allows your brain to coordinate everything, including your muscles and ligaments, so you can function smoothly. But proprioception requires instantaneous reactions, and it can be off, especially when a body faces new challenges and stresses, as an athlete’s generally does.

    Proprioception is the reason, according to Dr. Brian Cole, why ACL tears almost never occur when an athlete is practicing by himself or is on the court or field in isolation, but almost always while reacting to an opposing player. (Even Reggie Wayne’s cut was anticipatory.) Proprioception requires a player to predict where his body should be in relation to that opponent. When a basketball or football player fails to accurately predict his position in space, when the brain doesn’t send an accurate signal to the joints, the knee is likely to be in a compromised position and the ACL cannot adjust. And as athletes have gotten bigger, faster, and stronger, and as the games have required more deception, proprioception has had to become much more sophisticated. So it’s not just the ligament that fails — it’s our whole personal navigation system. In a sense, we are victims of ourselves, which makes ACL tears not only a physical challenge but also a metaphysical one.

    The Future

    Kaya Turski doesn’t much resemble Adrian Peterson or DeJuan Blair. She is a sprite, only 5-foot-5 and slight of stature — things that help her fly through the air, which is what she does. Turski happens to be the five-time world slopestyle skiing champion. She is the woman at the very apex of her sport, which will be included next February in the Olympics for the first time. And if she is a revolutionary in her sport, she is also a revolutionary in ACL surgery.

    By now, you’ve probably guessed that Kaya has suffered an ACL tear. Actually, she has suffered a few. She got the first after she was recovering from a pancreatic injury in 2007. Just 14 days after she got back on her skis, she was training in New Zealand when she attempted a 50-foot jump, landed, and felt her right knee give. “It’s crazy how loud that pop is,” she remembers. And she knew immediately that her ACL was gone. As it turned out, her MCL and LCL were, as well. But she had a hamstring graft, went through a grueling rehab, and returned to the slopes nine months later. Kaya Turski The second came in April 2010 when she was making her third run in a competition she had already won and was attempting a new trick — a two-and-a-half forward rotation. As soon as she landed, she knew her left knee had gone. But once again she came back, and she felt stronger than ever. Then came the third, just last August while she was training in Oregon and lost her bearings in the air during yet another trick. She was just six months out from the Olympics, where she would have been a favorite to medal.

    If she’d had normal reconstructive surgery, there would have been no hope of her returning in time for Sochi. She considered competing without her ACL. But instead she did research and came up with an idea: She proposed getting a synthetic graft. Synthetic grafts had been pretty much discredited, in part because while they might work in the short run, they invariably fail in the long run. Still, she knew it was her only chance, and Dr. Litchfield, recommended to her by a fellow skier, reluctantly agreed — because Turski told him the Olympics were likely to be her swan song, and it didn’t matter to her if the graft held afterward. But he agreed with a proviso. He would wrap the synthetic ligament in an allograft, a ligament from a cadaver, so that Turski would have a chance of avoiding a revision surgery after she retired. It is, to her knowledge, the first time this has ever been done.

    The fate of her allograft remains to be seen, but Turski is, in her way, even more phenomenal than Adrian Peterson, who at least had eight months of rehab. She doesn’t have that luxury. She just has those six months — which would be a record for recovery. She says everything is moving in “fast forward.” Just three months out from the tear, she is already jumping and expects to be on the snow early this month. The key, she says, is that she couldn’t afford to give in to the gremlin. She had to resist it. But she has conquered it — three times — and now she and her ACL have declared an Olympic truce. As Turski puts it, “As long as the knee cooperates, I feel good about my chances.”

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    Darrell Williams
    School: South Florida
    Position: T
    Bio: Two-year starter at left tackle.
    Positive: Tall, athletic tackle prospect with a good amount of upside potential. Quick off the snap, patient in pass protection and effective on the second level. Sets with a wide base, works to bend his knees and effectively fights with his hands. Adjusts to oncoming linebackers and does a nice job picking up the blitz.
    Negative: Inconsistent in his all-around game. Must improve his run blocking. Struggles to finish blocks and falls off defenders.
    Analysis: After breaking into the starting lineup as a junior, Williams has shown consistent progress and is a developmental prospect with practice squad potential.

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    South Florida OT Darrell Williams
    Williams started 29 straight games at left tackle for the Bulls, and is getting a look at the Bucs’ local workout at One Buccaneer Place on Friday. Williams also has the quick feet necessary to play inside at guard and could be an undrafted free agent or a rookie mini-camp invite

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    05/05/2015 – A closer look at the Rams’ nine picks: Round 7/227 – Martin Ifedi, DE, 6-3, 275, Memphis…Ended his college career as the school’s all-time leader with 22.5 sacks and also compiled 36 tackles for loss. That sacks total ranked sixth among active NCAA FBS players. A sprained MCL cost him four games at the beginning of the 2014 season, but still had 9.5 sacks in nine games played. Rams defensive line coach Mike Waufle is said to be high on him and likes his upside. – The Sports Xchange

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Solidly-built frame and has worked hard to add weight and fill out. Good upper body strength with the length (33-inch arms) and wingspan to toss blockers and corral ballcarriers. Strong hands to finish once he makes contact, breaking down well in space to close and attack. Impressive recognition skills and ball awareness, using his eyes to locate, track and pursue. Disciplined run defender on the edges to take away the corner and contain, forcing the action back inside and allowing his teammates to make the stop. Plays with fight and works hard to stay square, not taking himself out of plays. Good play speed with a locked in motor, rallying to the football. Tough worker with mature football character and a likeable personality. Versatile experience lining up inside and outside at several defensive line positions. School’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5) as a three-year starter (31 career starts).

    WEAKNESSES: Near maxed out body type with some tweener traits. Plays tall off the snap and gives blockers a big target to block, leading to balance issues. Lacks the speed or flexibility to consistently bend and threaten the edge. Has some herky-jerky movements with below average redirection skills. Overly patient at times and seems to be thinking too much, leading to hand fighting at the point of attack. Too easy for blockers to win angles and seal him. Needs to better drive through his hips and show improved leverage shedding and tackling. Durability a question mark after a left knee injury in Sept. 2014, which caused him to miss four games and kept him from being 100-percent healthy the rest of the season.

    –Dane Brugler
    Player Overview
    One of the most versatile front four prospects in the 2015 draft, Ifedi moved all over the defensive line in college, playing the bulk of his snaps at the three- and five-technique positions. He leaves Memphis as the school’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5), but he isn’t overly dynamic and there isn’t much that separates him from others athletically. Ifedi, who is the older brother of Texas A&M OT Germain Ifedi, displays very good run recognition to make quick reads and put himself in position to make plays, using his upper body strength and eyes to be effective. His medical report and knee status are imperative to his NFL draft grade, projecting best as a left defensive end in a four-man front or as a five-technique in a 3-4 scheme.

    A two-star defensive end recruit out of high school, Ifedi has a basketball background, but started to focus on football and received moderate interest as a recruit, receiving only a few FBS offers and committing to Memphis. After redshirting in 2010 and serving as a back-up defensive tackle in 2011, Ifedi moved to the edges as a sophomore in 2012 and led the team in both tackles for loss (11.0) and sacks (7.5). He had his best statistical season in 2013 as a junior with 14.5 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks, earning First Team All-AAC honors. Ifedi was plagued by a knee injury in 2014 and started just nine games, but still finished second on the team in tackles for loss (9.5), adding 2.5 sacks and earning First Team All-AAC honors.

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    ACL Tear Won’t Keep Most College Athletes From Returning to Play: Study
    Recovery actually seems better for college-age players vs. younger peers, researchers say

    http://consumer.healthday.com/bone-and-joint-information-4/knee-problem-news-436/acl-tear-won-t-keep-most-college-athletes-from-returning-to-play-study-692075.html?utm_expid=38353063-4.pIV1hUrQR8K_MJ1_OqjLag.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

    ACL Tear Won’t Keep Most College Athletes From Returning to Play: Study
    FRIDAY, Sept. 26, 2014 (HealthDay News) — It’s a debilitating injury, but an ACL tear typically doesn’t mean the end of a college athlete’s career, a new study finds.

    The research suggests that the risk for a reinjury of the knee’s anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) actually goes down as athletes mature from high school into their college years.

    Researchers at the University of North Carolina report that most of the college players in the study returned to their sport after surgery to repair an ACL tear.

    However, college athletes who had suffered an ACL injury in their pre-college years were much more likely to suffer recurrent ACL trouble, compared to those who had their first such injury in college.

    The study included 89 male and female UNC athletes who’d undergone an ACL surgery, either prior to entering college or while they were collegiate athletes. Fifty-four of the patients had surgery during college, while 39 had the surgery before college.

    Both groups had nearly identical return-to-play rates — the pre-college group used 78 percent of their total playing eligibility after injury, while the college group used 77 percent.

    However, there were significant differences in their rates for ACL reinjury and reoperation.

    The pre-college group had about a 17 percent injury rate with their original ACL surgery, and they also had a 20 percent chance of suffering an ACL injury in the other knee, the study found.

    In comparison, the rate for the college athletes was about 2 percent and 11 percent, respectively.

    The reoperation rate was about 51 percent for the pre-college group and 20 percent for the college group, according to the study published Sept. 24 in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.

    “It’s very clear from our data that the younger the elite athlete, the higher risk for reinjury,” lead author Dr. Ganesh Kamath, assistant professor of orthopedics at UNC’s School of Medicine, said in a university news release.

    “It’s clear that these kids are going to get back to playing sports at a higher level, but there is something in their makeup that puts them at high risk for tearing the ACL in the same or the other knee again. Once the athlete, though, gets past adolescence, this risk seems to go way down,” Kamath said.

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    CFF Player Profile: Todd Gurley, HB

    Matt Claassen | April 10, 2015

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/04/10/cff-player-profile-todd-gurley-hb-2/

    Today our CFF Player Profile is going to look at our first prospect that is not expected to be drafted in the first 10 picks of the draft, and that is former Georgia running back Todd Gurley. Gurley has long been regarded as one of the best backs in the nation since his freshman year when he was named to the AP’s All-SEC team in 2012. But in a time where there hasn’t been a running back taken in the first round since 2012 and Gurley is rehabbing a knee injury, where does his draft value stand?

    Gurley’s junior year took a few twists and turns that led to him missing seven of Georgia’s games due to suspension and injury. Even though he played 239 offensive snaps in less than six full games, Gurley still put plenty on film during his half-season.

    Overview & Stats

    The first thing you notice when watching Gurley is how powerful and explosive he is as a ball-carrier. He repeatedly runs through arm tackles and picks up yards after first contact. He is capable of carrying the load and just wearing defenses down. No one will ever question Gurley’s effort as he is always fighting to finish runs. When his blocking is insufficient, his power allows him to create his own yardage better than most other players. Gurley’s average of 4 yards after contact per rush against Power 5 opponents was nearly a half-yard more than the next 2015 draft prospect, Tevin Coleman.

    While his powerful running style and size alone are great traits to boast, his speed and quickness combined with his size are what set him apart. Gurley can run defenders over, or run around them, and once he is in the open field in one-on-one situations, he has plenty of lateral agility to make defenders miss. Gurley forced no less than six missed tackles in each of his games against Power 5 defenses and on average he forced a missed tackle once every 3.2 rush attempts. Not only was that the most frequent rate in this draft class, but it was also the best in the entire nation.

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    Gurley shows good vision and can excel in both power and zone run schemes. He typically displays patience when waiting for holes to open up, but occasionally does get a little impatient. Once he locates the crease, his quick acceleration through the hole exposes defenders with poor pursuit angles and turns plays into long runs. He had a 25-plus yard run in all six games last year, and in four of the six games he had gains of at least 40 yards.

    As a receiver Gurley can be just as threatening to defenses. He didn’t have quite the same opportunity in the passing game as he did in 2013, but he caught all 12 passes thrown his way last year and still displayed the same type of playmaking ability downfield.

    As with much of the running back draft class, Gurley has room for improvement in pass protection. He allowed two hits and two hurries on 15 snaps where he stayed in to pass block during 2014. It is not enough of a weakness that would prevent him from being an immediate three-down back in the NFL, but he could use some fine tuning. He does still have two and a half years of pass blocking experience and remains one of the better blockers of the draft class.

    For most people, the biggest knock on Gurley is that he is recovering from a torn ACL. Anymore, many athletes bounce back fine after knee injuries and recovery times seemingly continue to improve. However, not everyone is as fortunate and recovery times will vary depending on the person. When training camp opens in July, he will be just eight months removed from the injury, and roughly 10 months by the time the regular season opens.

    Beyond the knee injury, he also missed games in 2013 due to an ankle injury. Is there a major concern about his durability? No. But it is a small piece of the puzzle, especially for a punishing back like Gurley. The silver lining behind the injuries, though, is that he enters the NFL without a massive workload in college and less wear and tear than a lot of prior prospects of his caliber.

    There’s no question that Gurley is the most physically gifted running back in the draft. His speed to go along with his size and strength is a combination we haven’t seen in a prospect for a few years. Without the injury he is worthy of a first-round draft pick. Despite the injury, he should still be in consideration for teams at the bottom of the round that need a running back. Even if it is assumed that he could potentially miss games or have a limited impact in his first year, that is just one of up to five seasons they could have a potential franchise running back on a rookie contract.

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    Andrew Donnal NFL Draft 2015: Scouting Report, Grade for Rams Rookie
    By Team Stream Now , B/R Video May 2, 2015

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2415138-andrew-donnal-nfl-draft-2015-scouting-report-grade-for-rams-rookie
    STRENGTHS

    A grinder at right tackle, Andrew Donnal has the technique and motor you want in a prospect. Donnal is technically smart with a strong, hard burst coming out of the snap. He’s a fighter who looks for contact in the run game, and he shows good hand placement when locking on to defenders. As you’d expect from an Iowa player, Donnal is a well-coached, pro-ready player. He has the length to affect the passing game and can play guard or right tackle in both power- and zone-blocking schemes. Donnal’s instincts are developed, and he won’t get caught waiting or guessing on what to do off the ball.

    WEAKNESSES

    Donnal wasn’t invited to the Shrine Game or the Senior Bowl, but he was a combine invite. He’s a lean player with a narrow, skinny base and must add power in his foundation to be a better run-blocker at the next level. He’ll struggle to anchor against a bull rush and hasn’t shown the agility to reset his feet and redirect in pass pro.

    PRO COMPARISON: Sam Baker, Atlanta Falcons

    Donnal may be limited as an athlete, but his strength and technique are good enough for him to play in the NFL for a long time. His upside is comparable to Sam Baker’s, and they’re similar athletes too.

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    Andrew Donnal, OT
    School: Iowa | Conference: BIG10
    College Experience: Senior | Hometown: Monclova, OH
    Height/Weight: 6-6 / 313 lbs.
    Projected Ranking
    Overall Position Proj. Rnd.
    217 19 6

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737214/andrew-donnal

    Player Lowdown
    Combine Results
    40 Yd 20 Yd 10 Yd 225 Bench Vertical jump Broad Shuttle 3-Cone Drill
    5.31 3.14 1.92 17 32 8’5″ 4.77 7.84
    Workout Results
    40 Yd 20 Yd 10 Yd 225 Bench Vertical jump Broad Shuttle 3-Cone Drill
    – – – 23 – – – 7.51
    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Desired height with workable arm length and hand size. Adequate athlete and set-up quickness. Prefers to use his hands to drive block, keeping his grip inside defenders and shuffling his lower body. Fundamentally sound and well-coached. Uses his length well to initiate the action and seal the edge any way he can. Always looking for someone to block with alert, active eyes. Doesn?t make mental mistakes, staying focused from snap-to-snap. Impressive tenacity through the whistle, displaying the finishing toughness to eliminate his man. Often powers defenders to the ground like a wrestler. Buys into coaching and works hard to hone his craft. Team-first attitude and waited his turn to be the starter.

    WEAKNESSES: Leaner-than-ideal and lacks ideal body girth. Narrow base and upright off the snap, making leverage an issue. Can be bullied on his heels and lacks the anchor to absorb bull rushers. Forces his momentum out of his stance, making him susceptible to inside moves, struggling to recover in time. Engages well, but needs to redirect his target and do a better job with angles. Needs to load more ammo into his punch to shock defenders, especially at the second level. Hesitant and needs to speed up his decision-making. Impatient on the edges and finds himself hunched over at the waist. Only one season of true starting experience (16 career starts). Some durability concerns, suffering an ACL injury (Oct. 2012) that ended his sophomore season and bothered him throughout his junior year.

    –Dane Brugler
    Player Overview
    Brandon Scherff and Donnal both arrived at Iowa as part of the 2010 Hawkeyes recruiting class, which was also the last year the school produced two offensive tackle picks in the same NFL Draft (Bryan Bulaga, Kyle Calloway). Scherff and Donnal both suffered serious injuries in 2012, but Scherff rebounded quickly and became an All-American. Donnal wasn?t as lucky, but finally got his chance to be the starter in 2014 and started every game at right tackle, limiting mistakes and showing consistent improvement. He has good initial quickness, but struggles to keep that same lateral momentum in his kickslide to cut off speed, forcing him to lunge and overextend at the waist. Donnal shows very little semblance of a punch, but takes pride in his technique and has the work ethic and attitude that makes him compatible with NFL coaches and a possible late round developmental option.

    A four-star offensive tackle recruit out of high school, Andrew Donnal narrowed his college choice to Michigan, Michigan State, Maryland, Virginia and Iowa, committing the Hawkeyes and redshirting in 2010. He saw limited snaps as a redshirt freshman in 2011 and filled in as a starter at right guard for three games in 2012 before suffering a season-ending injury. Donnal was a versatile back-up in 2013 as a junior as he recovered from injury, but didn?t start any games. He took over the right tackle duties as a senior and started all 13 games in 2014, earning All-Big Ten Honorable Mention honors.

    Player News
    05/05/2015 – The Rams then followed up on the third day by picking Iowa tackle Andrew Donnal in the fourth round and Fresno State guard Cody Wichmann in the sixth round. Donnal is yet another Rams pick that suffered a torn ACL although his was during the 2012 season. He had played in the first four games of the season and then became a starter at right guard. Early in that third start, he tore the ACL, but was able to come back to play in the season opener the next season. He didn’t start at all in 2013, but played at both guard and tackle. Last season, he started all 13 games at right tackle, and rarely missed a snap.

    Donnal also fits what the Rams were looking for in their linemen. After being asked to describe himself, he said, “I view myself as a blue-collar grinder. I’m a guy that’s going to come out and work my ass off every day to be the best that I can possibly be. I thoroughly enjoy juts playing football, being an offensive lineman and moving the guy from point A to point B against his will. Protecting the quarterback and mauling inside. There’s nothing better.” As Fisher said of the draft haul, “It’s been a long time coming, particularly because of the needs. After Todd, our focus went to the big guys. All of them finish; that’s the thing we really like. They’re downfield, they’re pushing people over piles, they’re aggressive and they’re finishing. As Les (general manager Les Snead) said about Cody, ‘If you’re somewhere in the vicinity, he’s gonna hit you.’ There’s some contact involved, and that’s the mindset that we need to carry forward. But it’s also not something that we have to teach; it’s the way they play right now.” When it was suggested that the Rams made as many choices as they did on the line hoping that some work out, Fisher took exception to that notion. “We didn’t throw darts now,” he said. “We think these guys can play.” – The Sports Xchange

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    Andrew Donnal to St. Louis Rams: Full Draft-Pick Breakdown
    By Steven Gerwel , Featured Columnist May 2, 2015

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    The final day of the 2015 NFL draft is underway. With the No. 119 pick in the fourth round, the St. Louis Rams selected Iowa offensive lineman Andrew Donnal.

    St. Louis’ strategy for this draft was to repair the offense, particularly the offensive line and run game. Without a doubt, the Rams have delivered.

    They used the No. 10 pick on elite running back Todd Gurley. That was St. Louis’ luxury pick, and Gurley finally gives Jeff Fisher a true workhorse back. What Eddie George was to Fisher’s Tennessee Titans, Gurley will be expected to be for the Rams.

    However, the Gurley pick will be wasted if the run blocking does not improve. For that reason, St. Louis has used the majority of its picks on linemen.

    The team grabbed Wisconsin tackle Rob Havenstein in Round 2 and Louisville lineman Jamon Brown in the third round.

    Donnal is yet another guy capable of stepping in and competing for playing time in training camp.

    The Rams also selected quarterback Sean Mannion in Round 3, so this draft has been entirely dedicated to the offense.

    As much as that must kill a defensive coach like Fisher, it was a necessary strategy.

    How Andrew Donnal Fits in With the Rams

    The selections of Havenstein and Brown were all about finding immediate contributors capable of boosting the ground game.

    Both players will step in and immediately create run lanes for Gurley and Tre Mason. With no elite receivers and a mediocre passing attack, the Rams will need a high-end rushing game to become competitive on offense.

    Still, the Rams were in need of a guy capable of keeping new Rams quarterback Nick Foles upright. Donnal should be that guy.

    He is not a mauler in the run game. He’s not incompetent in that area, but he lacks the raw strength and athleticism to push around NFL defensive linemen.

    On the plus side, he possesses great size (6’6″, 313 pounds) and uses his mechanics to best defenders. He’s a capable pass-blocker and doesn’t get overrun by pass-rushing ends. He’ll keep Foles upright and clean.

    Donnal will require some development before he’s totally confident at the NFL level, but that’s not a major issue.

    He was a 13-game starter at right tackle for Iowa last season. He doesn’t have much starting experience prior to 2014, but he received playing time at both tackle and guard before taking over as a starter.

    Havenstein will take over the right tackle position. As a second-round pick, he’ll be expected to step in and start from day one.

    As for the opening at left guard, it’s likely that Donnal and Brown will duke it out. Brown has more experience than Donnal and should be the favorite, but that will be settled on the practice field.

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    Initial Reaction and Grade for Donnal Pick

    The Rams are returning just two starters from the 2014 line (Greg Robinson, Rodger Saffold). Drafting a third offensive lineman might seem like overkill, but it really isn’t. It was a necessary blueprint for this year’s draft.

    The Rams cannot simply assume that Havenstein and Brown will excel and immediately develop into starters. There’s strength in numbers, so St. Louis knew it had to add another lineman to increase competition.

    Also, it’s not about the starters alone. The Rams are also in need of depth on the line. Even if Donnal doesn’t win a starting job, he’ll provide some promising depth.

    The St. Louis offensive line has been held back in recent years by injured and aging veterans. The Rams needed young, healthy bodies for the offensive line, and they’ve accomplished that.

    Grade: A-

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    Former Titans running back Eddie George, who played eight seasons for Jeff Fisher on the Oilers and Titans, joined The Imig, Montez and Moe Show on Friday. The Rams’ drafting Todd Gurley in the first round of this year’s draft drew many comparisons to Fisher selecting George in the 1990s. George talked about Gurley and Fisher along with several other Rams-related topics.

    http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/STLSports/STLRams/tabid/137/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/17574/Eddie-George-Analyzes-Rams-Todd-Gurley-Pick-Talks-Playing-for-Jeff-Fisher-and-His-Philosophy.aspx

    What was your reaction to the Rams taking Todd Gurley?

    “Actually, I was a bit surprised. I thought it was a great pick for Jeff. I know the type of player he’s looking to have, that he needs to have in the backfield to be a bell-ringer for him and the type philsophy that we wants.”

    How will Gurley affect the Rams?

    “I think now he can really make a serious run in that division with the type of back Gurley is, provided he stays healthy…and really how Nick Foles comes into the whole mix. I’m really excited to see what Jeff has been building the last three years. Every year he’s done an outstanding job of bringing it together for the draft.”

    Have you been able to talk to Jeff Fisher about the draft?

    “I haven’t had a chance as of yet. The last couple of years I’ve texted him to let him know he’s done an outstanding job. This year in particular I just said ‘Great pick, you got a beast of a running back.’ I’m pretty sure we’ll have a chance to talk…I may come down and check him out during training camp.”

    Fisher said he envisions Gurley kind of like a St. Louis version of you at running back. Thoughts on those comments?

    “Ironically enough, I was watching a game last year with Todd playing on CBS…and he was an absolute monster and throughout the telecast they compared him to me. The speed and soforth and I can definitely see that. He has the ability to beat you up in between the tackles, but he creates his own space. He can set up his blocks, he has excellent vision, excellent feet. His runs after content…that’s what you want to see. If he can stay healthy, he can be a Pro Bowl running back.”

    What can you say about Fisher that has made him a mainstay coach in the NFL?

    “I think slow and steady wins the race. He’s not going out getting the sexy draft picks (just to excite the fan base). He’s going to build household names. We’re so enamored with quick results and winning it right now. It takes time to build a championship team. You’ve got to be patient. Our first three or four years (in Tennessee), we were 8-18. We were a vagabond team, we didn’t have a home. Then we turned the corner and put together some great wins. I think that’s the same formula he’s applying to the St. Louis Rams. I think he’s on the trajectory of putting together a playoff-caliber team that you guys will appreciate.”

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    Russell Wilson contract talk: Just negotiating as usual or something to worry about?

    Bob Condotta
    May 7, 2015

    http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/russell-wilson-contract-talk-just-negotiating-as-usual-or-something-to-worry-about/

    Russell Wilson’s contract is suddenly the subject of a lot of conversation. But the time to worry about it getting done is still a ways away.

    Maybe it’s because Seattle doesn’t have a basketball team that could be on a long playoff run right about now to talk about anymore. Or maybe it’s because the Mariners are stumbling out of the gate and everybody really wants to avoid talking about that

    Whatever the case, discussion of Russell Wilson’s contract extension suddenly dominated all the radio talk shows in Seattle Thursday thanks to a couple of different statements and recent reports.

    Jason La Confora of CBSSports.com, for instance, said on KJR-AM this morning that Wilson and the Seahawks are “nowhere close” to a deal. That came after John Clayton of ESPN said earlier in the week that Seattle is believed to have offered $80 million for four years (which is included in this well-done examination of the issue from Danny O’Neil of 710 ESPN Seattle).

    All of that led to much talk show and social media discussion Thursday and attendant speculation about where this goes next.

    As O’Neil notes, it was easy to think this deal would be done, well, easily since the Seahawks have a recent track record of getting contract extensions signed, sealed and delivered almost before anyone knew negotiations had even begun (think Kam Chancellor, Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman, among others).

    But Wilson’s is the kind of contract the Seahawks have never dealt with before, and he’s in one of the more advantageous situations of any player in recent NFL history as a winner of a Super Bowl at such a young age. This was destined to take some time.

    So the question is whether some of the back and forth — Pete Carroll saying on ESPN last weekend that the team was waiting to hear from Wilson’s side and Wilson responding with a Tweet that he’d rather patiently wait than rush into something that isn’t best for his life — is just what should be expected at this point, or something more?

    If the reports of Seattle’s offer are true, well it only makes some sense that the Seahawks would start off low, especially early in the negotiations. And if the rumblings that Wilson wants the moon — or more specific, a contract that would pay him as much as anybody in the NFL, which has been rumored for months now — then that makes sense, too.

    Russell Wilson didn’t overcome what he has to get to where he is by not having a mammoth belief in himself and his abilities and that’s not something he should be expected to just set aside once it comes to contracts. If he thinks he can be as good as any quarterback in NFL history — which he has said is his goal — then he shouldn’t really be blamed for wanting to get paid like it.

    John Schneider’s comment earlier this year about thinking “outside the box” was widely interpreted as Wilson being willing to take less money to help the Seahawks for salary cap reasons. But I’m not sure that’s really what Schneider meant — or certainly, not quite as concretely as many seemed to take it, that Wilson would voluntarily take a less-than-market deal because that’s what the team wants. Being willing to do things structurally to help the team is different than just waving goodbye to millions of dollars.

    While Seahawks’ fans may have grown accustomed to these things getting done early and easily, expectations may simply have to change for this one.

    The reality is that the situation is nowhere yet near urgent.

    Each side would probably like this done by the time training camp begins — which will likely be around July 31 or so.

    Wilson, if all the reports are true about being willing to play out the season and see what happens, may have a lot more time on his side in this than the Seahawks.

    But the Seahawks still have time, as well.

    If it gets to August and nothing is then, then that might be the time to worry.

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    http://uscenterforsportsmedicine.com/how-long-will-it-take-my-anterior-cruciate-ligament-injury-to-heal/

    6 months is the benchmark for returning from this injury. of course. this guy also says it takes up to a year for the knee to regain full strength.

    How Long Will It Take My Anterior Cruciate Ligament Injury to Heal?
    October 4, 2011
    The importance of the ACL (anterior cruciate ligament) to knee stability can not be overstated. Next in line for importance is proper rehabilitation after an ACL injury and surgery.

    Let’s start with the basics.

    The ACL is responsible for keeping your knee from sliding or twisting behind your hamstring. If the ACL is torn it pops and your knee begins to wobble. (See the seven simple tests to determine if you’ve torn your ACL.) The pain is excruciating.

    Unfortunately, even though ACL injuries are common, women ages 14 to 30 are five times more than likely to suffer from an ACL injury. The reason why is not understood fully. It could be anatomy or estrogen levels or proper strength training.

    An exact rehabilitation and recovery program from an ACL injury, especially if you’ve opted for reconstructive surgery, will vary from doctor to doctor and therapist to therapist

    You can expect to be back at the sport in about six months. It’s best not to expect anytime sooner than that, unless you hit your benchmarks early.

    Your first benchmark is to take care of the pain and swelling. Next it’s vitally important to protect the knee during the time it is healing from the surgery. Slowly a return in motion is something we also look for, then looking for a return in strength.

    So it’s resolving the pain and swelling, protecting the knee to heal properly, return in motion and strength are what make up a good rehabilitation program. These are the benchmarks we look for in sports medicine.

    Most of these steps we have control over. What we don’t have control over is the biology of the individual: will he heal fast or slow? Will the graft become a living part of the body again is not so much a concern as when that will happen. It differs from individual to individual.

    What’s happening is the body is trying to re-establish blood flow to the graft that has been taken from another part of your body.

    Six months is the benchmark where we can expect most athletes to be completely recovered and ready to play again. Some doctors will be aggressive with the rehabilitation and try and get the athlete back on the field in two or three months.

    So much of that depends upon the athletes desire and how his or her body responds to the graft and the recovery program. The knee has to be strong enough and the full range of motion must have returned, as well as a dramatic reduction and even elimination of pain and swelling. If these benchmarks aren’t hit then the doctor and athlete need to be patient because the threat of re-injury is very real.

    Of course six weeks after the surgery your knee may be healthy and strong enough, although not optimally at the strength target, that the risk of re-injury is not a worry and you could return to playing at that point.

    I don’t fully recommend, however, doing this, but at the eight week the knee may be healed enough that I wouldn’t be worried about re-injury as much. Still, the longer the knee can be given to heal the stronger it will be and the less likely you will re-injure it.

    In fact, your new knee ligament continues to heal for up to a year, meaning it won’t be as strong at nine months as it will be at twelve months. The longer you wait, the better.

    But you can make a personal decision, along with the advice of your therapist, doctor and coach, of returning to the game in two months. You may not be up to your original performance standards pre-ACL surgery at this point, but in good enough shape to play.

    Dr. Rick Lehman is a distinguished orthopedic surgeon in St. Louis, Missouri and an articular cartilage reconstruction pioneer He owns U. S. Sports Medicine in Kirkwood, MO, and LehmanHealth. Learn more about Dr. Rick.

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    Rams’ war-room drama reveals team on a familiar track

    By Michael Silver

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000490604/article/st-louis-rams-warroom-drama-reveals-team-on-a-familiar-track

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — At certain uncomfortable junctures throughout his 20-year career as an NFL head coach, Jeff Fisher has had to adapt to circumstance, reshaping his offense as a pass-heavy attack, or one that takes advantage of a quarterback’s mobility.

    Yet the times when Fisher’s teams have been most effective — the times when the man with the sublime ‘stache has been most at peace with his situation — have coincided with the presence of an elite, eminently productive running back. When Fisher coached the Titans to Super Bowl XXXIV, and later to the 2002 AFC Championship Game, the ultra-physical Eddie George was the offensive focal point. Tennessee’s romp to the 2008 AFC South title, meanwhile, was fueled by the emergence of rookie speedster Chris Johnson.

    And Friday night, for the first time in the three years and three months that have passed since Fisher took over as the St. Louis Rams’ coach and top football decision-maker, he exuded a deep-seated satisfaction impossible to ignore — that of a man who feels his team will play football the way he prefers it, with no ambiguity about its mission.

    As he sat in his office following the second day of the 2015 NFL Draft, leaning back in a cushy chair while sipping a glass of bold red wine, Fisher didn’t shy away from statements that might sound like hyperbole to some: Former Georgia star Todd Gurley, the swift and powerful runner he’d taken 10th overall in Thursday night’s first round, is “a once-every-10-year back” who, along with the upgrades made to the offensive line in Rounds 2 (former Wisconsin tackle Rob Havenstein) and 3 (ex-Louisville guard Jamon Brown), will change the Rams’ offensive identity.

    “We’re trying to become more physical on offense,” Fisher said. “We did that today. We got two guys who are gonna go downfield and finish blocks — and clear space for that guy we got last night to do what he does. It’s not complicated: Hand it off, run play-action passes, get the ball out quickly, keep your defense off the field.”

    Or, as secondary coach and former collision-happy NFL safety Chuck Cecil had put it about 20 minutes earlier: “We’re gonna be going old-school on ’em.”

    Fisher has, along with general manager Les Snead, already assembled an aggressive defense — led by a star-studded stable of pass rushers and run-lane-cloggers up front. The coach believes he now has a suitably relentless offense to go with it. With a new quarterback in Nick Foles, acquired in a March trade with the Philadelphia Eagles for injury-prone passer Sam Bradford, Fisher isn’t looking for big fantasy numbers or cutting-edge passing concepts. Rather, he and newly promoted offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti, who replaced Brian Schottenheimer after the 2014 season, will be quite comfortable handing the rock to Gurley and letting him grind his way down the field.

    On paper, the Rams are bucking a trend. As the NFL becomes increasingly pass-centric, teams consistently unearth short-term answers at running back from later rounds and productive veterans struggle to get lucrative, long-term contracts, the Death of the Marquee Running Back has become a trendy talking point. In fairness, it’s not just talk: No running back was selected in the first round of the 2013 or 2014 drafts, with Gurley and Wisconsin’s Melvin Gordon (who went 15th overall to the Chargers) breaking the ignominious streak on Thursday.

    Going all-in with Gurley, who tore his ACL last November, could be construed as a gamble. When I interviewed the newest Rams runner Friday on NFL Network, he expressed confidence in his recovery, and his new bosses obviously feel similarly. Fisher and Snead locked in on him as their top target midway through April and sweated out the draft’s first nine picks before happily pouncing.

    A couple of weeks before the draft, in an act that was part superstition and part subterfuge, Fisher moved Gurley’s player card well below his actual slot on the draft board in the team’s war room, placing him in the second-round range. “At that point,” Fisher said, “(our interest in him) was on a need-to-know basis.”

    That set up quite the draft-room scene Thursday: After the Giants selected Miami guard Ereck Flowers with the ninth overall pick, Fisher instructed Sean Gustus, the area scout who’d given the initial grade on Gurley, to put the magnetic card “where it really belongs” on the draft board.

    Gustus, Fisher recalled, “tried to stick it on the ceiling,” as the scouts, coaches and other team officials in his midst broke out in celebratory laughter.
    St. Louis Rams’ 2015 NFL Draft

    Round 1, Pick 10 (10): Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia

    Round 2, Pick 25 (57): Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin

    Round 3, Pick 8 (72): Jamon Brown, OT, Louisville

    Round 3, Pick 25 (89): Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon St.

    Round 4, Pick 20 (119): Andrew Donnal, OT, Iowa

    Round 6, Pick 25 (201): Bud Sasser, WR, Missouri

    Round 6, Pick 39 (215): Cody Wichmann, G, Fresno St.

    Round 7, Pick 7 (224): Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor

    Round 7, Pick 10 (227): Martin Ifedi, DE, Memphis

    Predictably, there were no dissenters. Snead, who’d been speaking glowingly about Gurley since the runner’s true freshman season, put it thusly: “When you’d pick out a game and watch his film, it was like watching a highlight reel. He just kept doing special things, play after play.”

    Said Fisher: “If it weren’t for the injury, he probably wouldn’t be a Ram. Because in everybody’s opinion, he was a top two or three pick. When they say running backs don’t have value anymore, that’s not the case when it’s a once-every-10-year back. That was the consensus in the building, and it was basically the consensus around the league.”

    For all of the Rams’ rich history at the position — which includes Hall of Famers Eric Dickerson, Jerome Bettis and Marshall Faulk, as well as another current St. Louis scout, Lawrence McCutcheon, who got especially fired up in the war room as Gurley’s card was pulled — they haven’t ranked in the top half of the NFL in rushing yardage for the past 15 years. Tre Mason, selected in the third round last year, showed promise as a rookie, which will allow Fisher the luxury of easing Gurley back from his injury. Mason projects as the clear No. 2 behind Gurley; third-year pro Zac Stac was traded — he had requested the move — to the New York Jets on Saturday.

    There was plenty of drama in the war room Friday night, as the Rams — who had a cluster of offensive linemen stacked in the second-round range and were thus open to trading down — fielded a fast and furious barrage of trade offers for their second-round pick (41st overall).

    For five-and-a-half minutes, the room resembled a Jerry Lewis-sponsored telethon, with president Kevin Demoff, Snead and Fisher fielding simultaneous calls from teams making offers — and in some cases, ringing back with sweetened trade proposals.

    “I’ve never seen (a war room) quite that crazy,” Fisher said later.

    The Chiefs, Eagles, Texans, Steelers and Panthers all offered trade-down prospects, and the Cowboys called to gauge the market before bowing out. With four-and-a-half minutes on the clock, Fisher chose the Panthers’ deal. The Rams got Carolina’s second-round pick (57th overall), along with selections in the third and sixth round, and hoped one of the linemen they liked would last another 16 spots.

    Mission accomplished: Four of the linemen the Rams coveted were there for the taking when the Rams went on the clock at 57, and after much back-and-forth at the board (with offensive line coach Paul Boudreau and assistant line coach Andy Dickerson joining Fisher, Snead and Demoff in the discussion), it was decided Havenstein would be the choice.

    “We got a road-grader, boys,” Fisher announced triumphantly. “A big-ass road grader.”

    Or maybe they hadn’t: With a phone at his ear, Demoff informed Fisher that the Buccaneers were offering a trade prospect in which the Rams would move down eight spots (receiving the first pick of the third round) and swap a sixth-round pick for Tampa Bay’s fourth-rounder. After a quick discussion, Fisher decided to take the deal.

    Moments later, Demoff called the Bucs back, only to learn that they had chosen to rescind the offer.

    Gesturing toward Boudreau, Fisher said, “OK, this guy can exhale now. Get him a glass of wine.”

    To the delight of Fisher and Boudreau, Brown — another of the linemen being discussed as the possible second-round choice — was still there when the team’s third-round selection (72nd overall) rolled around. (And the Rams — who later took ex-Oregon State quarterback Sean Mannion with the third-round pick acquired from the Panthers — weren’t done beefing up the line; they selected former Iowa tackle Andrew Donnal in the fourth round and ex-Fresno State guard Cody Wichmann in the sixth round Saturday.)

    On Friday night, as he rocked back and forth in the chair behind his desk, Fisher was the emblem of serenity and satisfaction. After three seasons in which the Rams have shown occasional promise but lacked consistency — and were unable to overcome the damage inflicted by season-ending knee injuries to Bradford — Fisher has heard the noise that he is in a win-or-else situation for 2015.

    Logic suggests this is in fact the case: Fisher’s teams have gone 7-8-1, 7-9 and 6-10 since he arrived in St. Louis, and with a possible move to Los Angeles looming, there’s a lot of uncertainty about the future.

    Fisher, however, isn’t carrying himself like a coach worried about his job security.

    “I think this reflects a stability in the organization,” he said of Gurley’s selection. “You know, we’re not impatient. We’re going to bring him along and make sure he’s ready to go and then hand him that little brown thing a bunch.”

    For this coach, at this moment, nothing could be more fulfilling.

    #23760
    Avatar photocanadaram
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    Brugler:
    18. MARTIN IFEDI | Memphis
    2010: Redshirted
    6031|275 lbs|5SR Houston, Texas (Westside HS) 9/4/1991 (age 23) #97 GRADE 6th-7th Round
    MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 7/8 | Hand: 10 | Wingspan: 81 3/8
    COMBINE 40-YD: 4.88 | 10-YD: 1.68 | 20-YD: 2.83 | BP: 16 | VJ: 31 | BJ: 09’03” | SS: 4.58 | 3C: 7.39 PRO DAY BP: 17
    PRONUNCIATION eh-FED-EE
    2011: (12/0) 2012: (12/10) 2013: (12/12) 2014: (9/9) Total: (45/31)
    13/1.0/1.0/1/1 46/11.0/7.5/2/0 52/14.5/11.5/1/0 29/9.5/2.5/0/1 140/36.0/22.5/4/2

    BACKGROUND: A two-star defensive end recruit out of high school, Ifedi has a basketball background, but started to focus on football and received moderate interest as a recruit, receiving only a few FBS offers and committing to Memphis. After redshirting in 2010 and serving as a back-up defensive tackle in 2011, Ifedi moved to the edges as a sophomore in 2012 and led the team in both tackles for loss (11.0) and sacks (7.5). He had his best statistical season in 2013 as a junior with 14.5 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks, earning First Team All-AAC honors. Ifedi was plagued by a knee injury in 2014 and started just nine games, but still finished second on the team in tackles for loss (9.5), adding 2.5 sacks and earning First Team All-AAC honors. He earned an invitation to the 2015 East-West Shrine Game.

    STRENGTHS: Solidly-built frame and has worked hard to add weight and fill out…good upper body strength with the length and wingspan to toss blockers and cage ballcarriers…strong hands to finish once he makes contact, breaking down well in space to close and attack…impressive recognition skills and ball awareness, using his eyes to locate, track and pursue…disciplined run defender on the edges to take away the corner and contain, forcing the action back inside and allowing his teammates to make the stop…plays with fight and works hard to stay square, not taking himself out of plays…good play speed with a locked in motor, rallying to the football…tough worker with mature football character and a likeable personality…versatile experience lining up inside and outside at several defensive line positions…school’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5) as a three-year starter (31 career starts).

    WEAKNESSES: Near maxed out body type with some tweener traits…plays tall off the snap and gives blockers a big target to block, leading to balance issues…lacks the speed or flexibility to consistently bend and threaten the edge…has some herky-jerky movements with below average redirection skills…overly patient at times and seems to be thinking too much, leading to hand fighting at the point of attack – too easy for blockers to win angles and seal him…needs to better drive through his hips and show improved leverage shedding and tackling…durability a question mark after a left knee injury in Sept. 2014, which caused him to miss four games and kept him from being 100% healthy the rest of the season.

    SUMMARY: A versatile prospect, Ifedi was moved all over the defensive line in college, playing the bulk of his snaps at the three- and five-technique positions. He leaves Memphis as the school’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5), but he isn’t overly dynamic and there isn’t much that separates him from others athletically. Ifedi, who is the older brother of Texas A&M offensive lineman Germain Ifedi, displays very good run recognition to make quick reads and put himself in position to make plays, using his upper body strength and eyes to be effective. His medical report and knee status are imperative to his NFL draft grade, projecting best as a left defensive end in a four-man front or as a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 scheme.

    #23746
    Mackeyser
    Moderator

    Arizona Cards: A

    The cards filled areas of need while acquiring more picks in a trade down. The problem is they didn’t address their biggest area of need and that was their defensive line. I know Darnell Dockett was injured last season and it showed. So, not replacing him isn’t about having confidence in who replaced him. That crew didn’t get it done when it counted. And as the NFC West reloads, that DL will be woefully undermanned for the pounding that’s coming.

    St. Louis Rams: A+

    Drafting the kind of talent that they are doing is getting to be a Rams tradition. Quinn, Donald…Gurley. These guys are transformative and it won’t be long before it hits a tipping point. We’ve already beaten Conference champs with backup QBs and that’s before adding Gurley. Remember, the Vikes had a 1000yd runner in Taylor when they drafted AP and were lampooned for it. No, Gurley is transformative and it will show. Soon. The OL the Rams drafted do a number of things. They maul. They do NOT hold. They do NOT make stupid penalties. All of these things hurt the Rams before. Couple that with an accurate QB who works best in a run oriented offense and the Rams have the makings of dynamite.

    San Francisco 49ers: B+

    Arik Armstead is very raw. So, while he played all over on Oregon’s DL, he only flashed big plays. Is he a potentially big talent at the 5 technique like guys like Richard Seymour and JJ Watt? Yes. Is he that guy in the next 2 years? No. The 49ers will need to be patient as he develops (they will be) and their fans will need to be patient (maybe not so much). With all the defensive turnover, it will be a culture shock when teams run on this D. And it’s coming. Tartt is a box safety with range. They’ve drafted those before with mixed results, so I dunno. Eli Harold is going to a good system for him and if Aldon Smith finally has his head on straight (not something to take for granted as the young man has had issues), then he could help them reform that formidable LB core. That might help their pass rush, but that interior still needs work.

    Seattle Seahawks: D-

    What the hell? A team that runs the ball 52% of the time ships out their Pro Bowl Center for a TE/WR who doesn’t block all that well? And who the Rams have a history of totally shutting down? So, Jimmy Graham with their 1st pick, and Frank Clark with their 2nd? Frank Clark? Are they looking to make a defense or a line up? Frank Clark isn’t just a reach here, he’s a head scratcher. He’d be a reach if he were squeaky clean, so with all the character stuff, spending all that draft capital on this guy makes no sense. There’s NO WAY any other team had him higher than a fourth. Just no way. So this was just Clark and his agent getting really lucky. And the rest of the NFC because the Seahawks aren’t restocking well. At all. Tyler Lockett isn’t a bad pick. He’ll be a really nice punt/kick returner and gadget guy, but they really needed a Georgia Tech type WR, meaning a WR who loves to block. Frankly, they miss Golden Tate more than they realize and they’ve never replaced him and Lockett isn’t an attempt to. Seattle actually had needs and they did nothing to restock. That’s the sort of hubris that has a team that’s been to 2 straight Super Bowls fall way back to the pack in a hurry.

    So, did the Rams Close the Gap on the NFC West? I absolutely think they did.

    1) They have a healthy starting QB who fits what they want to do and can do it.
    2) They drafted the best RB to come out since AP and still have Tre Mason and Bennie Cunningham and Trey Watts to fill the role until Gurley is ready to step in.
    3) They drafted the RIGHT type of OL for what they want to do now that Cigs is running the offense Fisher really wants to run. I think Cigs and Fisher are SO MUCH MORE on the same page than Schotty and Fish ever were. While I think Schotty and Fish agreed in principle, I think based on smaller clues here and there from things players and what Fish has said that Fisher and Cigs are sympatico. And that’s huge going forward. It’s already made a huge difference in the draft.
    4) They got a developmental QB that if developed properly has all the tools to be someone special. Aaron Rodgers sat for awhile and I know comparing new guys to the best is dangerous, but I have a gut feeling that Mannion is “special” in that really good way. And Fisher is committed to developing him.
    5) They hired Chris Weinke. They are committed to not only developing Mannion, whom they drafted, but also improving Foles and Keenum which is important. I think they saw that it is important to continue to develop the starting QB to be successful and that requires getting a guy to do just that.

    Now, closing the gap and PASSING teams are very different things. We can close the gap by a ton and still end up with a very similar record.

    I mean we’ve got the 6th toughest schedule in the NFL based on last year’s winning percentage. We could improve everywhere and still be 7-9 or even improve to 8-8 which would be nice, but not what we’re all looking for.

    Things still have to break in our favor a bit for us to actually get to 10-6 and beyond.

    1) OL has to be healthy.
    2) Entire team has to start fast. We can’t start that first 5 game stretch 1-4. It’s a tough stretch, but we really need to go 3-2
    3) D needs to start out on fire. And I mean on fire…

    If just those 3 things happen and we are 3-2 or better, then this season looks really good to me going forward. And, frankly, I think we have a shot at that.

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #23732
    Avatar photocanadaram
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    Brugler on Donnal:

    14. ANDREW DONNAL | Iowa
    2010: Redshirted 2011: (4/0)
    6057|313 lbs|5SR Monclova, Ohio (Anthony Wayne HS) 3/3/1992 (age 23) #78
    GRADE 5th-6th Round

    MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 1/2 | Hand: 10 | Wingspan: 80 5/8

    COMBINE 40-YD: 5.31 | 10-YD: 1.92 | 20-YD: 3.14 | BP: 17 | VJ: 32 | BJ: 08’05” | SS: 4.77 | 3C: 7.84 PRO DAY BP: 23 | 3C: 7.48

    PRONUNCIATION duh-NELL

    2012: (7/3) 2013: (12/0) 2014: (13/13) Total (36/16)
    3 RG 13 RT
    13 RT, 3 RG

    BACKGROUND: A four-star offensive tackle recruit out of high school, Andrew Donnal narrowed his college choice to Michigan, Michigan State, Maryland, Virginia and Iowa, committing the Hawkeyes and redshirting in 2010. He saw limited snaps as a redshirt freshman in 2011 and filled in as a starter at right guard for three games in 2012 before suffering a season-ending injury. Donnal was a versatile back-up in 2013 as a junior, but didn’t start any games. He took over the right tackle duties as a senior and started all 13 games in 2014, earning All-Big Ten Honorable Mention honors.

    STRENGTHS: Desired height with workable arm length and hand size…adequate athlete and set-up quickness…prefers to use his hands to drive block, keeping his grip inside defenders and shuffling his lower body…fundamentally sound and well-coached…uses his length well to initiate the action and seal the edge any way he can…always looking for someone to block with alert, active eyes…doesn’t make mental mistakes, staying focused from snap-to-snap…impressive tenacity through the whistle, displaying the finishing toughness to eliminate his man – often powers defenders to the ground like a wrestler…buys into coaching and works hard to hone his craft…team-first attitude and waited his turn to be the starter.

    WEAKNESSES: Leaner-than-ideal and lacks ideal body girth…narrow base and upright off the snap, making leverage an issue…can be bullied on his heels and lacks the anchor to absorb bull rushers…forces his momentum out of his stance, making him susceptible to inside moves, struggling to recover in time…engages well, but needs to redirect his target and do a better job with angles…needs to load more ammo into his punch to shock defenders, especially at the second level…hesitant and needs to speed up his decision-making…impatient on the edges and finds himself hunched over at the waist…only one season of true starting experience (16 career starts)…some durability concerns, suffering an ACL injury (Oct. 2012) that ended his sophomore season and bothered him throughout his junior year.

    SUMMARY: Brandon Scherff and Donnal both arrived at Iowa as part of the 2010 Hawkeyes recruiting class, which was also the last year the school produced two offensive tackle picks in the same NFL Draft (Bryan Bulaga, Kyle Calloway). Scherff and Donnal both suffered serious injuries in 2012, but Scherff rebounded quickly and became an All-American. Donnal wasn’t as fortunate, but finally got his chance to be the starter in 2014 and started every game at right tackle, limiting mistakes and showing consistent improvement. He has good initial quickness, but struggles to keep that same lateral momentum in his kickslide to cut off speed, forcing him to lunge and overextend at the waist. Donnal shows very little semblance of a punch, but takes pride in his technique and has the work ethic and attitude that makes him compatible with NFL coaches – late round developmental option.

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    #23720
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737214/andrew-donnal

    STRENGTHS: Desired height with workable arm length and hand size. Adequate athlete and set-up quickness. Prefers to use his hands to drive block, keeping his grip inside defenders and shuffling his lower body. Fundamentally sound and well-coached. Uses his length well to initiate the action and seal the edge any way he can. Always looking for someone to block with alert, active eyes. Doesn?t make mental mistakes, staying focused from snap-to-snap. Impressive tenacity through the whistle, displaying the finishing toughness to eliminate his man. Often powers defenders to the ground like a wrestler. Buys into coaching and works hard to hone his craft. Team-first attitude and waited his turn to be the starter.

    WEAKNESSES: Leaner-than-ideal and lacks ideal body girth. Narrow base and upright off the snap, making leverage an issue. Can be bullied on his heels and lacks the anchor to absorb bull rushers. Forces his momentum out of his stance, making him susceptible to inside moves, struggling to recover in time. Engages well, but needs to redirect his target and do a better job with angles. Needs to load more ammo into his punch to shock defenders, especially at the second level. Hesitant and needs to speed up his decision-making. Impatient on the edges and finds himself hunched over at the waist. Only one season of true starting experience (16 career starts). Some durability concerns, suffering an ACL injury (Oct. 2012) that ended his sophomore season and bothered him throughout his junior year.

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    Avatar photocanadaram
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    Ourlads on RH:

    Three year starte at RT WHO passes the physical look test. The amount Airy, MD native was a first team All-Big 10 in 2014. Good athletic feet for a big man to seal his target by setting the edge of a defense. Knows how to use his long arms and plays with a competitive attitude. The huge tackle can lock up a pass rusher. Does a good job of sitting down, locking out, and being patient in pass protection. Projects to be a serviceable starte in the NFL at the RT position. Had a strong week at the Senior Bowl. A long and physical tackle who reminds scouts of former Eagle John Runyan. Demonstrates good lateral agility and foot movement. Has good hip flexibility placement with his initial punch. Not always explosive or powerful hip roll and extension, but gets movement with functional foot mobility and athletic ability. Physical on down defensive linemen and works to finish his blocks. Lacks the thick power producing backside to drive defenders off the ball in man blocking schemes. Must work to bend his knees because of his tall frame. Not particularly agile in space or on the second level blocking linebackers on a fast flow. OSR: 34/41. Fourth/fifth round. (A-33 5/8, H-10, BO-16, 10-1.89).

    #23601

    In reply to: Todd Gurley

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    Coming Back

    It has been three years since a running back was selected in the first round of the NFL draft; the man most likely to break that drought tore his ACL five months ago. Where Georgia’s Todd Gurley is on the road to recovery, and why his draft stock is bouncing back fast

    April 29, 2015 by Jenny Vrentas

    http://mmqb.si.com/2015/04/29/nfl-draft-todd-gurley-recovery-acl/

    Todd Gurley’s road back began with that all-too-familiar sight on football fields: player lying on the turf, clutching his knee in pain, home crowd hushed.

    This was last November in the final minutes of Georgia’s victory over Auburn, Gurley’s return from a four-game suspension for accepting $3,000 in exchange for autographing memorabilia. He had advanced the ball six yards on his last carry (1.4 below his per-carry average), and 138 yards for the game (14 below his per-game average). On his second-to-last step, though, he had planted his left leg awkwardly. With the ball still cradled in his left arm, he reached his right hand toward his knee, in pain before he even hit the ground.

    On the Georgia sideline, receiver Malcolm Mitchell cringed. He had torn his ACL one year earlier—while celebrating a 75-yard touchdown run by Gurley, of all things. He knew right away what had happened to his teammate.

    “When I saw it happen, I was terrified for him,” Mitchell says. “I knew how much coming back and playing with the team meant to him. Because of the mistake he made, a lot of opportunities got taken away from him. This was his time to shine. And he was shining.”

    Gurley was Georgia’s star running back, but his value to his teammates extended beyond the field: rounding up guys for dinner, to see a movie, to go bowling. On this night, Mitchell returned the favor. He hopped on the cart that drove Gurley off the Sanford Stadium field for the last time because he didn’t want his friend to ride alone.

    Gurley was quiet during the ride, processing the fact that one false step ended his collegiate career and left his NFL future clouded. “Before he tore his ACL, Todd Gurley was a top-5 pick, no brainer,” says one veteran NFL offensive coach.

    But despite what happened Nov. 15, and despite the fact that a running back hasn’t been taken in the first round since 2012, NFL teams don’t expect Gurley’s unusual talent and skill set to last beyond the first round Thursday night. One team that is strongly considering Gurley believes he is the best running back to come into the NFL since 2007, when Oklahoma’s Adrian Peterson went seventh overall to the Vikings.

    Mitchell stayed with Gurley while Georgia’s medical staff examined him in the locker room, doing the simple physical tests that affirmed the ACL tear. Gurley reacted calmly. He turned to his teammate and told him it was time to start rehabbing: “I gotta do what I gotta do to get back.”

    * * *

    James Andrews repaired Gurley’s knee 10 days later, Nov. 25, five months before the draft. At the time, Georgia coach Mark Richt indicated that Gurley had a clean ACL tear, meaning minimal damage to other structures in the knee such as the meniscus, which cushions the knee and protects the articular cartilage. That was good news for his recovery, and different from another elite SEC runner who suffered a major knee injury in 2012. South Carolina’s Marcus Lattimore was never able to play a game in the NFL after dislocating his knee and injuring multiple ligaments in his final college game.

    Every player’s rehab is different, but the way Gurley has progressed so far has been encouraging. About a month ago, he began doing certain kinds of field work with Anthony Hobgood, a former Ole Miss fullback and the performance coach at the EXOS training facility in Gulf Breeze, Fla. EXOS is on the campus of the Andrews Institute, where Gurley had his surgery and was doing clinical physical therapy, until he got the green light a month ago to begin full-body performance training with Hobgood.

    Their daily two-hour sessions, ongoing for the past month, have two parts: A movement session outdoors on the turf, and then a strength session in the weight room. The movement sessions rebuild the skills he’ll need to use on the football field, with a progression Hobgood explains through a baseball analogy: first you practice swinging off a tee, then you try hitting soft tosses, then you face live pitching.

    So far, Gurley has done the first two stages of movement drills. He started with technical drills like marching, skipping or practicing his running form while leaning against a wall, and doing resistance work with sleds. He has also been doing pre-programmed change of direction drills within the last month, in which he runs and shuffles between cones according to instructions given ahead of time.

    The final stage, which Gurley has not yet started, will be random movement, where he would have to change direction or accelerate in response to a stimulus, such as a command from his trainer, a flashing light or a hand clap.

    The random movement drills train players for what they’ll experience on a football field; it’s the milestone that precedes returning to practice. As of last week, Hobgood hadn’t let Gurley react to random stimuli yet, “not because he can’t,” he says, “but we don’t want to rush.” Gurley will soon be in the custody of a team that will chart the rest of his return, but based on their work, Hobgood says, Gurley would probably be moved to randomized drills in a matter of weeks.

    The first question Hobgood asks Gurley every morning is: How does your knee feel? The most important rule of thumb with ACL rehab is not to rush, and for the past month Gurley has not had any swelling or soreness in his knee as a result of their work, Hobgood says, which is a positive sign and has allowed them to move forward with the movement training. In the weight room, Gurley has been squatting, lunging and doing lower body work with heavy loads and at high speeds. When they do single-leg exercises, like a single-leg squat or a single-leg deadlift, Hobgood says Gurley is able to do the same number of reps using the same weight on his injured leg as his healthy leg.

    During his physical therapy and now performance training, Gurley ate a diet specially designed for a player rehabbing from surgery. Meals were built around lean protein and priority fats (found in avocado and olive oil) that aid the healing process, and aimed to include vegetables of three different colors—dark leafy greens for muscles and bones, red or orange for the heart and circulatory system and white to boost the immune system. He also took daily fish oil supplements and mixed in papaya or pineapple, all of which aid in managing inflammation.

    “Where he’s at in his recovery, he’s doing absolutely incredible. You could easily say he’s ahead of schedule, but at the same time, we are going to let time do its thing,” Hobgood says. “I don’t want to put a timeline on Todd. It’s very possible he could be ready by the end of the summer, but it’s one of those things where it’s going to have to be a decision that he and the team that decides to pick him up will make.

    “He’s definitely on track to make a full recovery, and I have full confidence that when the time is right for him to play again, he’s going to play as if he’d never been injured.”

    The stage of ACL rehab that Gurley is at is akin to getting over the hump. If players struggle when they start running, cutting and doing field work, experiencing swelling or soreness, they have to regress to basic exercises and can be set back three to four months. The progress Hobgood described Gurley making in field work is a very important, very positive indicator.

    Andrews declined to speak specifically about Gurley’s progress, citing patient privacy. Ever since another of Andrews’ patients, Adrian Peterson, set a new bar for ACL recovery in 2012, when he began his 2,000-yard rushing campaign less than nine months after surgery, Andrews has tried to guard against players setting unrealistic expectations.

    “Running backs, if they lose a step, they wont be productive in the NFL,” Andrews says. “They’ve got to get all their speed back, they’ve got to cut and change directions and they’ve got to get all their power back in their leg, which takes at least nine months to adequately get their leg reconditioned. It’s a lot of milestones they have to go through.”

    A player like Gurley is facing those milestones in the pressure cooker of the pre-draft process, while also preparing to leap to a whole other level of play. “It’s tough,” Andrews says. “But a good high-level guy can do it, believe me. Sometimes it’s a little unbelievable how well they can do when they are very elite athletes with obviously great genetics.”

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    The question, as it is with any player in the NFL draft, is when a team would get good value by selecting him. How do you balance Gurley’s talent and the fact that he is five months removed from major knee surgery?

    “It’s hard to predict the injury, and how someone is going to rehab, especially at that position,” Rams GM Les Snead said at the NFL combine. “But you saw the body of work, that it was really good. I don’t think he’ll fall too far in this draft.”

    The medical recheck, held 11 days ago in Indianapolis, gives each team’s medical staff a chance for one final check of injured players’ progress before the draft. There were three months between Gurley’s surgery and the combine, about the length of time it takes for the new ACL graft to fuse to the femur and tibia bones. At five months, the picture of how well a player is progressing toward athletic function is much clearer.

    At the medical recheck, doctors run through a checklist for players coming off ACL surgery, says Matthew Matava, orthopedic surgeon and the Rams’ head team physician. They inspect the quadriceps—specifically, the vastus medialis obliquus, a muscle involved in knee extension that needs to be strong for proper knee function—to see how much atrophy of the muscle there is compared to the healthy leg. They check if the range of motion matches the healthy knee, and if there is any swelling. Then, the same manual tests used to help diagnose an ACL injury (the Lachman test, the pivot shift and the anterior drawer test) are done to check stability of the knee with the new ACL graft.

    Gurley also took a series of private visits with teams, including the Lions and the Panthers. Gurley’s agent suggested he take a video of himself sprinting on the treadmill, which he recently posted to Instagram (his injured leg is indiscernible from his healthy one).

    On his way to Chicago for the draft, he stopped in Athens, Ga., on Monday and worked out with Mitchell at the football building. They biked and did squats and ab work. Says Mitchell, who just finished spring practice: “I think he’s in better shape than I am.”

    But no matter how good Gurley looks and feels at this point, exactly when and how he will return to the field is still a projection. Orthopedists agree that in most cases, players perform much better, physically and mentally, their second year back from knee surgery. In 2003, the Bills drafted Miami running back Willis McGahee 23rd overall less than four months after he tore multiple ligaments in his knee in the Fiesta Bowl. He sat out his rookie season, then posted back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons.

    “It depends if you are looking to draft a young running back that can go this year, or if you have a stable backfield and have that luxury of waiting a year or two,” the NFL offensive coach says. “A team that was looking for that guy this year, that needs him, won’t necessarily go for Gurley, because if they need him, they need him now.”

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    The SEC rivals met in Jacksonville, a neutral-site game at the home of the Jaguars, with their seasons on the line. Dante Fowler, Jr., then a freshman defensive end for Florida, remembers that October 2012 afternoon for two reasons: 1) because his team’s unbeaten season was ended, and 2) because of how Georgia’s freshman tailback sliced through the Gators’ vaunted defense.

    “Todd Gurley, he is a monster,” Fowler says. “What gets me about him is how fast he is. He’s a big guy so you would think that he’s slow, but he’s even faster in person than what he looks like on TV. We had a mean defense. We had Sharrif Floyd, Dominique Easley, Matt Elam—three first-round draft picks—and we had a top-five defense in the country. To see what he was doing to us, as a freshman, I was like, man, this guy is going to be something else.”

    Three minutes into that game, Gurley took a handoff, cut back to his left, knifed through that stocked Florida defense and burst into the end zone for a 10-yard touchdown run. That was one of his 44 career touchdowns—second only to Herschel Walker in the Georgia record book—and one of the 18 100-yard games Gurley would have over three seasons at Georgia.

    Fowler and Gurley will meet again this week at the NFL draft in Chicago. If circumstances were different, both men’s names would surely be among the first 10 called on Thursday night. They still might be.

    “[Gurley] doesn’t lose a lot of one-on-ones,” says the offensive coach. “That’s something I look for in backs. To me, that’s a difference-maker. The eighth defender in the box, can he consistently beat him or does he get tackled all the time? When you get in the secondary, can he escape or does he get tackled? That’s the difference between average backs and great backs.”

    One team official said Gurley’s combine interview was one of the most impressive in recent memory. He’s bigger in person than expected (6-foot-1, 222 pounds), a good thing for a running back who will need to pick up blitzing NFL linebackers. But beyond that, in just 15 minutes, he filled the room with the kind of presence teams like to have in their locker room.

    That was on display during the combine workouts, too. Gurley was only able to compete in the bench press, but he turned heads by cheering on the fellow running backs during the 40-yard dashes and position drills, and offering them water, towels and high fives in between events. “Here’s a kid who could possibly be a top-5 or top-10 pick, and he was the biggest cheerleader,” says retired NFL fullback Tony Richardson, who worked with the running backs during the combine as an NFL Legends ambassador. “I was blown away by that.”

    Last fall, Gurley seemed to take his NCAA suspension harder emotionally than the torn ACL, because he felt like he let down his teammates. “I never heard him so sad,” Mitchell says of a phone conversation with Gurley. “He apologized, and you could hear the crack in his voice. Then he just held the phone in silence.” Amateurism infractions barely register a blip in NFL minds, let alone raise a red flag. The biggest questions surrounding Gurley, who also missed time as a sophomore with ankle and hip injuries, are the physical ones—namely, when he’ll be ready to play football again.

    The last two years, teams have shied away from investing a first-round pick—and the corresponding guaranteed money, which would be upwards of $12 million for a top-10 pick—in a running back. But last year’s Super Bowl alone was a reminder of what a strong ground game can do for an offense. Seattle nearly rode Marshawn Lynch to a second straight title. New England’s revived rushing attack helped them overcome some early season struggles (and their 46 rushing attempts in the AFC title game was the most they’ve ever had in a playoff game during the Belichick era).

    An elite back, especially one who can stay on the field for three downs, can still be a difference maker. Gurley could be this draft’s ultimate risk-reward pick—and the latest prognosis on his knee has him trending toward reward.

    “He’s one of the most complete backs to come out in a long time,” the offensive coach says. “You’re not going to make it deep in the playoffs without a run game. If you perceive a guy to be a difference-maker like that, you better get him early.”

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    St. Louis Rams First Round Draft Pick RB Todd Gurley Conference Call – April 30, 2015

    (On if being picked by the Rams came as a surprise and did the Rams show interest before the draft)
    “A little bit. A little surprised, but like I said I’m just happy. I’m happy, real happy to just be a part of the Rams.”

    (On if the Rams were one of the 20 teams he visited and was told to keep quiet about)
    “No, they weren’t. They weren’t.”

    (On what is the earliest date that he can play football)
    “Right now there’s no time table. Not putting a timetable on anything. Everything’s been on schedule and just looking forward to coming back.”

    (On what percent he is injury-wise)
    “Like I said, I really wouldn’t say a percent. At the end of the day, I’ve never been through one of these injuries. But, like I said, I’m not a doctor or therapist. Everything is going on schedule. Still have a lot of work to do though.”

    (On if he feels it’s realistic to play on opening day)
    “Yes, I think that’s a realistic goal. But, like I said, I’m not putting any time table.”

    (On his current rehab process)
    “My rehab’s been going good. Haven’t been limited to anything far as the weight room, blocks, been running, doing some control cutting – just getting after it.”

    (On if he’s been able to run at full speed)
    “Yes, I have a couple times. But most of it is…a lot of my workouts are modified.”

    (On if he expected to go in the top 10)
    “I mean, yes.” (Laughs)

    (On why he expected to go in the top 10)
    “Because I know what I worked hard for and I had confidence in myself, just because of my injury. Because at the same time, I didn’t want to have my head down to be expecting to go low. I’m not that type of person.”

    (On what running back he plays the most like and who did he grow up admiring)
    “I don’t try to be like anybody else. I definitely look at a lot of the great running backs especially in the NFL. I grew up a (New Orleans Saints RB) C.J. Spiller fan.”

    (On how difficult his suspension was last year)
    “It was very difficult, just not being able to play. Having a good season and them telling me I had to sit down.”

    (On what he knows about the Rams’ offense)
    “I know they like to run the ball, so it’s a special, special place. I’m looking forward to going out there and working for them.”

    (On if he had a combine visit with the Rams)
    “Yes, I did.”

    (On if the Rams talked to him at his pro day)
    “I’m not sure. I don’t think I talked to anybody at my pro day.”

    (On when he thought the Rams would be a possible landing spot for him)
    “I didn’t to be honest, but I’m happy.”

    (On what it felt like to get the phone call letting him know he was going to be a Ram)
    “It was crazy. It was awesome for sure to get that phone call and be a part of the team.”

    (On how he would describe himself as a back)
    “I feel like it’s kind of a one-cut, down hill runner. I don’t try to do too much. I’ve still got a lot to learn and improve on my game.”

    (On if he watched football growing up)
    “I always watched football because that’s what I played, but being in North Carolina you don’t have a choice, but to watch basketball all the time.”

    (On if he was a good basketball player)
    “I thought I was (Chicago Bulls’ PG) Derrick Rose for a little bit, but that didn’t work out too well.”

    (On his relationship with LB Alec Ogletree)
    “I’ve got a good relationship with him. I remember my first time in camp during goal line he hit me, ‘Man, I felt that.’ I was like from that day forward I’m running low. It will be good to get back there with him and team up. That’s one of the best players I’ve ever played with.”

    (On if Ogletree has reached out to him since being drafted)
    “I’m not sure I haven’t checked my phone. I’m pretty sure he did.”

    (On if he knows any other Rams)
    “No, I don’t.”

    (On the most important thing he’s learned from himself during his rehab process)
    “Just be patient. Just because you can’t do something one day doesn’t mean it’s not going to come the next day. You’ve just got to keep working at it and try not to be frustrated.”

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    ST. LOUIS RAMS ROUND ONE PRESS CONFERENCE – HEAD COACH JEFF FISHER AND GENERAL MANAGER LES SNEAD – APRIL 30, 2015

    (On first round pick RB Todd Gurley)
    Snead: “Coach Fisher would tell you, we’ve been discussing it a while. Obviously we felt he was a unique talent. That’s subjective, but definitely thought he was a unique talent that only comes around once in a while. So, we thought he might have fallen…could have gone earlier if it hadn’t been for the injury, so it was kind of a bonus to maybe be sitting there at 10. We’ve got a lot of things we’ve got to do, but I think it was a consensus that that player helps everybody: our defense, it helps our offense, our offensive line, our wide receivers, our QB. So, that’s the pick in a nutshell.”

    (On why they think Gurley is a unique talent)
    Fisher: “His body of work speaks for itself. What he was able to do at the University of Georgia was very impressive. Clearly, he was set back because of the injury, but the athletic ability, the strength, the explosion, the acceleration, the instincts that he has as a runner, and he’s also got great hands out of the backfield. He’s that complete back. We have a good group. We really like our group in the room, but this is an opportunity that as Les said, that we could not pass up. There were good players. The board was right. We had a sense for where it was going to go. We’ve been talking about Todd for well over a week now. We were there at the re-check. The rehab’s coming along fine. We don’t know when he’s going to be on the field competitively. We do know that he’s not having any issues right now and as the doc’s typically say, he’s ahead of schedule. So, this is kind of one of those players at the position that really only comes around once in a great while. So, we’re very excited about him.”

    (On when they became comfortable with Gurley’s knee and how comfortable they are being patient with him)
    Fisher: “Well we’re comfortable with the process, the evaluation process. We’re comfortable with what happens at the Combine. Now, he did not allow anybody to manipulate him at the Combine just because the doctor didn’t want 32 teams jerking on the knee. So, he went through his rehab, went back to the re-check. We were there. Our doctors were there and there’s really no concern with where he is right now.”

    (On if Gurley will be ready for the regular season)
    Fisher: “There’s always that possibility, but we’re not going to be specific as to when. I will tell you this: we’re not going to rush it. We may be a little on the conservative side. This is the running back of our future, and it makes no sense to subject him to…put him in a bad situation sooner than we have to. Like I said, we’ve got outstanding backs on our roster. He’s going to add to that group. When that happens, we don’t know. But, he’s going to be the running back of the future for a number of years.”

    (On the depth at the running back position)
    Fisher: “We’ve got a good group, yes.”

    (On if Gurley’s injury history factored into the decision to select him)
    Fisher: “Well, obviously it’s been a concern of ours, but every situation is different. We don’t have any reservations whatsoever about him getting back to full-speed and 100 percent. That’s not going to be an issue with him. He’s endured a lot too. His road’s pretty impressive. He’s had some hard times, went and endured the suspension, but everyone you talk to absolutely loves the kid. Just loves the kid.”

    (On selecting a running back in the first round this year despite one not being picked in the first round the last two years)
    Snead: “I think you take Gurley, obviously we thought he was a unique talent and I think the next guy to go was a pretty damn-good player in the Wisconsin kid. He can hit some home runs and I think that’s why San Diego made a move to go get him. It’s really like I’ve said many times before, the position – that’s just letters in the alphabet. But you take players – they’re humans, you take the ability. I think that’s why you’re seeing the running backs go maybe two, maybe three go off the board this year because they’re skilled people.”

    (On Gurley’s suspension in college)
    Snead: “I think, obviously the Georgia people, he’s a hero to their people. I don’t know if I want to use the word hero, but well-respected throughout their fans. I’ve spent a lot of time in Atlanta so my texts are probably blowing up with UGA fans. We’ve got one on the staff who knows (University of Georgia Head Coach) Mark Richt well and he sent him a text right after the pick saying, ‘Hey, great pick. You guys got a stud.’ That’s coming from his head coach and a lot of the fans there. They respect him. He made a mistake. He got punished for it. He’s moving on.”

    (On if Gurley is similar to former NFL running back Eddie George)
    Fisher: “He’s special. Yeah he is. I got a text from Eddie five minutes after the pick was over saying, ‘Congratulations, great pick.’ But they’re different. They’re running styles are different. When his career is all said and done he could be that guy, yes.”

    (On the coach who got the text from Coach Richt)
    Snead: “(Quarterbacks) Coach (Chris) Weinke.”

    (On who’s going to block for Gurley)
    Fisher: “We’ve got a group up front. We’ll be OK.”

    Snead: “We’ve drafted some people in the past and they did make this thing a three-day event. I didn’t decide that. We’ve got to live through Friday and Saturday. We’ll see if we can help improve that position there, but we’ll still let the board guide us, but we’re well aware.”

    (On if there were any surprises)
    Fisher: “No, the board was perfect so far.”

    (On if Gurley was ranked second on the draft board)
    Snead: “You can’t always believe everything that’s reported. That one’s in-house.”

    Fisher: “We intentionally hid him on the board. So, he was way down some place.”

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    Fisher and Snead Talk Todd Gurley

    Watch head coach Jeff Fisher and Les Snead talk about their 1st round draft selection, Georgia running back Todd Gurley.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/Fisher-and-Snead-Talk-Todd-Gurley/13950a53-ddf1-4478-bf10-1fdfd20635ef

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    Rams select “unique talent” in Georgia RB Gurley at No. 10

    By Joe Lyons

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-report/rams-select-unique-talent-in-georgia-rb-gurley-at-no/article_f4c45e9f-3cc1-50a6-b218-dcbc2db96f24.html

    The Rams came up with a bit of a surprise, selecting Georgia running back Todd Gurley at No. 10 overall.

    The 6-foot-1, 226-pounder played in just six games as a junior last fall after suffering an ACL tear in November — after serving a four-game suspension at midseason for taking money for signing memorabilia.

    In those six games, he ran for 911 yards on 122 carries (6.4 per carry) and scored nine times. In addition, he caught 12 passes for 57 yards and returned four kicks for 179 yards and a touchdown.

    Gurley, 20, said that rehab has gone well but does not to put a timetable on his return. Can he be back in time for opening day?

    “Oh yeah, I think that’s a realistic goal,” he said during a teleconference call with St. Louis media. “Everything’s on schedule and I’m looking forward to coming back.

    “I was a little surprised, but I’m just happy, happy to be part of the Rams.”

    Both Rams head coach Jeff Fisher and general manager Les Snead are thrilled with their top pick of 2015.

    “We thought he was a definitely a unique talent that only comes around once in a while,” Snead said. “Could’ve gone earlier if it wasn’t for the injury, so it was kind of bonus sitting there at No. 10. Hey, we’ve got a lot of things we need to do, but it was a consensus that that player helps everybody _ our defense, our offense, our offensive line, our receivers and our QBs. That’s the pick in a nutshell.”

    Fisher agreed: “His body of work speaks for itself…. It was clearly setback because of the injury, but the athletic ability, the strength, the explosion, the acceleration, the instincts that he has as a runner and he also has great hands out of the backfield. He’s a complete back. We have a good group, we really like our group, but this is an opportunity, as Les said, that we could not pass up.”

    Gurley rushed for 989 yards and 10 scores in 10 games as a sophomore in 2013, when he also caught 37 passes for 441 yards and six touchdowns. As a freshman in 2012, he played in 14 games and made 12 starts, rushing for 1,385 yards and 17 touchdowns. That season, he also caught 16 passes for 117 yards and returned seven kickoffs for 243 yards and a score.

    Gurley, the first running back to go in the first round since 2012, started in 28 of 30 games he played for the Bulldogs. He had 18 100-yard games and one 200-yard game. His 44 career touchdowns (36 rushing, 6 receiving and 2 kickoffs) rank second in school history to Herschel Walker’s 52.

    Like Gurley, Fisher has not timetable for Gurley’s return to the football field.

    “We do know that he’s not having any issues right now and the docs typically say he’s ahead of schedule,” the coach said. “This is one of those players at the position that really only come around once in a great while. We’re very excited about it.

    “I’ll tell you this, we’re not going to rush it. We may be a little on the conservative side. You know, this is the running back of our future and it makes no sense to subject him to or put him in a bad situation sooner than we have to.”

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    Total breakdown: Rams draft RB Todd Gurley in first round
    By Nick Wagoner

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    EARTH CITY, Mo. — A few quick thoughts on the St. Louis Rams’ first-round draft pick:

    The pick: Todd Gurley, running back, Georgia

    My take: Some might view this pick as a complete surprise, but that’s only for those who haven’t paid attention to Rams coach Jeff Fisher’s affinity for the running game and running backs. Gurley is the fifth running back the Rams have drafted in four years with Fisher at the helm. He’s also clearly the highest rated of those backs and the one who gives the Rams a chance to finally be the power-running team they’ve long wanted to be. Coming off a knee injury, Gurley doesn’t come without his share of risk but the Rams believe he’s the best back to come out of the draft since Adrian Peterson. If Gurley lives up to that lofty comparison, he’s worth it.

    Rams not afraid of risk: Giving this pick a thumbs-up is a tough debate. Gurley is coming off a torn left ACL and is actually still in the process of rehabilitating. But the Rams feel like they can be patient and allow him to get to full speed because they have other options. Namely, Tre Mason, Benny Cunningham and Zac Stacy. In fact, it has been common practice for the Rams to have about a four-game waiting period before plugging a rookie running back into the lineup. They did it with Stacy in 2013 and Mason last year. So Gurley would fit right in.

    Who’s blocking? The question now becomes, who will be blocking for Gurley this season? The Rams still have gaping holes at guard, tackle and, to a slightly lesser degree, center. The good news is that Gurley averaged 3 yards after contact per rush and gained more than 1,500 of his 3,285 rush yards after contact in his college career. Also, the Rams still have five more picks to bolster the offensive line and could conceivably re-sign tackle Joe Barksdale and/or add veteran guard Justin Blalock in free agency.

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    Ruining QBs
    By Matt Waldman
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    ……….Star quarterbacks will always be uncommon, but finding and developing passers who can make a team competitive should be easier. Jake Delhomme, Joe Flacco, Colin Kaepernick, and Eli Manning aren’t top-tier quarterbacks, but they’ve helped their teams reach Super Bowls during this era of the NFL. Many of you will argue that Kaepernick, Manning, and even Flacco, are stars. I’ll argue that they are competent players and competent NFL players often make great plays, but it doesn’t make them stars. They are winning quarterbacks, not great quarterbacks, and there’s a difference.

    However, Madden, Citizen, Campbell’s Soup and other corporate entities doling out endorsement deals indirectly contribute to the public perception that these players are star quarterbacks. The NFL came to the realization during the Joe Namath era that the league earned money as much or more from touting its stars as the rest of its product. I think ownership and its infrastructure have unfortunately sniffed too much of its own glue and treats every young quarterback like a star and has encouraged rookies, agents, and the public to expect the same.

    These expectations shorten precious development time, create exaggerated perceptions of self among young quarterbacks, and make owners impatient. It’s a time-tested recipe for disaster and on Thursday, April 30th, we’re about to watch more meat throw on the skillet.

    For analysis of skill players in this year’s draft class, get the 2015 Rookie Scouting Portfolio – available now. Better yet, if you’re a fantasy owner the Post-Draft Add-on comes with the 2012 – 2015 RSPs at no additional charge. Best, yet, 10 percent of every sale is donated to Darkness to Light to combat sexual abuse. You can purchase past editions of the Rookie Scouting Portfolio for just $9.95 apiece.

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    Capabilities of ’15 O-line draft class align perfectly with what Rams need: versatility
    Howard Balzer
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    LSU’s La’El Collins and Iowa’s Brandon Scherff

    ST. LOUIS — Rams offensive line coach Paul Boudreau has often said he’d love to have all tackles starting on his five-man unit. That, of course, rarely happens, but Boudreau’s point is that the all-around ability and athleticism of tackles will often translate to other positions and provide a team with the best possible blockers.

    With this year’s draft less than one week away, Boudreau might be getting closer to his wishes. After all, as the group stands now, the only sure starters are left tackle Greg Robinson and left guard Rodger Saffold, who was drafted as a tackle and switched to guard last season. To say the Rams need to solidify their offensive line with three months remaining until the start of training camp is a massive understatement.

    Obviously, whoever starts at right tackle will make it three tackles on the line, but the biggest mystery of this offseason, now 45 days after the start of the league year on March 10, is the status of right tackle Joe Barksdale. Expecting to get a contract in the range of $7-8 million a year, Barksdale saw doors closed quickly on him and he remains unsigned.

    If he doesn’t sign in the next week, the Rams will be in the market for a tackle, guard and possibly a center during the draft. If he does, at this point it would likely be a one- or two-year contract at best, so the Rams would be well advised to draft a tackle anyway.

    While there has been a lot of chatter about the Rams selecting a quarterback or wide receiver in the first round with their 10th overall choice, it’s difficult to imagine them passing on an offensive lineman, and they could well add more blockers in two of the next three rounds.

    The good news for the Rams is that this is a deep group of offensive linemen who also have significant position versatility. It’s not hard to picture Boudreau licking his chops in the team’s war room.

    “Because this year’s class lacks an obvious Pro Bowl left tackle, it has been miscast as a below-average group,” says Rob Rang of NFLDraftScout.com. “In reality, clubs looking for help on the interior or right tackle can find players capable of competing for starting positions as rookies throughout the top 100.”

    That’s music to Boudreau’s ears, and he knows it — especially since the Rams already have their left tackle, which means the available crop perfectly matches their needs. They can mix and match and be covered no matter what Barksdale does. Even if the Rams entertain thoughts of signing Barksdale after the draft, they just might get a tackle and guard in two of the first four rounds, possibly setting them up for the next four or five years and allowing them to move on from a steady but unspectacular player.

    If they draft a tackle such as Iowa’s Brandon Scherff or LSU’s La’el Collins in the first round, and then still sign Barskdale, either of those prospects could immediately be placed at right guard. There’s that versatility at work.

    Scherff started the last three seasons at left tackle but is viewed as either a right tackle or guard in the NFL. “He has enough skills to survive on the edges in the NFL, likely at right tackle,” NFLDraftScout.com’s Dane Brugler, who rates Scherff as a guard, wrote in his draft guide, “but his best position at the next level is inside at guard, which fits his skill set and mindset. (He’s a) safe player who can’t be drafted too early in the first round.”

    Numerous mock drafts have him going to the New York Giants, one spot in front of the Rams at ninth overall. If that happens, the Rams couldn’t go wrong with Collins. “Any power-running team would love to have La’El Collins,” says Charles Davis of the NFL Network.

    Wrote Brugler: “He is a wrecking ball in the run game. He has enough talent to survive on the edges, projecting as a starting swing tackle at the next level, but might be ideally suited inside at guard.”

    At center, a lot depends on how much Boudreau and Co. truly like Barrett Jones and Demetrius Rhaney, but there could be temptation to add Florida State’s Cam Erving or even Mizzou’s Mitch Morse.
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    Erving played, you guessed it, tackle for the first 37 starts of his offensive line career after switching from defensive tackle, and then moved to center for the final five games last season. That’s where most scouts project him in the NFL, but some believe he could also play guard.

    Morse started games for the Tigers at center and both tackle spots while also practicing and playing some at both guard spots. “He is patient, balanced and competitive with the high football intelligence desired,” Brugler wrote.

    That’s not unlike former Mizzou lineman Justin Britt, who some said Seattle reached for in the second round last year. But Seahawks line coach Tom Cable knew what he was doing and Britt started every game as a rookie except for the NFC Championship Game because of a knee injury.

    Other names to watch for the Rams include tackles Andrus Peat (Stanford) and Ereck Flowers (Miami of Florida) and guards Ali Marpet (Hobart), A.J. Cann (South Carolina), Tre Jackson (Florida State), Laken Tomlinson (Duke) and Jamon Brown (Louisville).

    Becoming fast starters is the way of the world in the NFL. Last season, 26 linemen (10 tackles, 11 guards and five centers) were drafted in the first four rounds and 22 in the top 100. Five tackles started a total of 65 games, seven guards started 87 games and the five centers started 55 games.

    Two guards, two tackles and one center started all 16 games, while another two guards, one tackle and one center started either 14 or 15 games. The Rams’ Robinson started 12.

    Odds are, once all seven rounds are in the books, a few of the linemen discussed above will be Rams and could be expected to start Sept. 13 against the Seahawks.

    Welcome to the NFL.

    Howard Balzer can be heard daily on Lunchtime Live with Howard Balzer from 11 a.m.-1 p.m. weekdays on TalkSTL.com 1380 AM.

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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1996546/andrus-peat

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Peat is impressive on the hoof and has long arms, broad shoulders and good weight distribution with tree trunks for thighs. Considering his monstrous frame, it is almost unfair that he gains an immediate advantage on his opponent with surprising quickness off the snap. He is balanced and light on his feet to slip out to the second level and can adjust to moving targets. In pass protection, Peat has the agility to slip wide to his left, sealing off speed rushers trying to turn the corner, as well the strength to latch and control defenders. Peat is patient, allowing the defender to come to him, showing good lateral agility and balance to mirror.

    WEAKNESSES: Isn’t the dominating force in the running game that his great size implies. Comes off the ball too high and doesn’t explode through his hips to drive opponents backward, settling to turn and seal. In pass pro, he will occasionally get lazy and bend at the waist, leaning into pass rushers and inviting counter-moves back to the inside. Doesn’t play with the nastiness scouts would prefer and has drawn the “soft” label from some.

    PLAYER COMPARISON: D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Jets — Like Ferguson, Peat has the length and athleticism scouts crave in a blindside pass protector. Neither, however, plays with the punishing, combative style that offensive line coaches would prefer.

    –Rob Rang

    Player Overview
    During the Jim Harbaugh-David Shaw era, size and strength have been prioritized over athleticism at virtually every position. In Peat, however, the Cardinal boast a massive blocker with rare athleticism.

    Peat signed with Stanford as a highly regarded prep and he’s proven worthy of his praise, earning playing time as a true freshman on an offensive line filled with NFL talent. He started every game the past two seasons at left tackle for Stanford, earning All-American honors and the Morris Trophy in 2014. The Morris Trophy is a unique award given annually to the best offensive and defensive linemen in the Pac-12, with only rival players – and not coaches or media – given votes.

    Massive and surprisingly athletic, the game appears to come easily for Peat and he is one of the few in the 2015 tackle class who possesses the combination of length, balance and fluidity to remain outside at the next level. While boasting undeniable talent, some question whether Peat has the nastiness to ever maximize his full potential, however.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2028286/dorial-green-beckham

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Physical specimen with rare athleticism and triangle numbers (size/speed/strength) for his frame. Plays with balance and core power to keep his center of gravity. Uses long-striding acceleration to get vertical in a hurry and create separation in his routes. Strong plant-and-go burst in his breaks, effortlessly shifting his momentum in his patterns, not having to gear down when changing directions. Physical leaper with high-pointing prowess to climb the ladder and play in the clouds. Uses his body beautifully in coverage to tower over defenders with an outrageous catching radius. Aggressive at the catch point with loose body control, easy adjustments and large hands to pluck with an attacking mentality. Not a push-over and shows a ?take charge? on-field personality. Swats corners away in his path and won?t let defenders dictate his pattern. Productive when on the field with 87 catches in two seasons at Missouri, averaging a touchdown every 5.1 receptions.

    WEAKNESSES: Functional strength is average-at-best, before and after the pass. Still learning the route tree and took advantage of mostly packaged and vertical patterns. Bad habit of getting lazy in his routes at times and doesn’t consistently read coverages to set up his movements. Will allow the ball to reach his body at times, which leads to drops. Needs seasoning and on-field reps after not playing since the 2013 season. Not a consistent finisher with questionable work habits ? uncertain accountability, both on and off the field. Strong red flags and immature make-up. Multiple off-field incidents, including two arrests for marijuana possession: first in Oct. 2012 with four other teammates; and then in Jan. 2014, although those charges were later dismissed when another person in the car where the drugs were found took ownership. Was dismissed from Missouri after allegedly ‘forcing himself into an apartment and pushing a female down the stairs’ wasn’t formally charged because no one pressed charges, but could enter the NFL with a strike against him when it comes to domestic abuse.

    –Dane Brugler

    COMPARES TO: Julio Jones, Atlanta Falcons ? Although the off-field issues cannot be ignored, Green-Beckham has a physical skill-set that rivals Jones on the field with rare athleticism and ability for his size

    Player Overview
    A NFL prospect with rare physical traits, Green-Beckham is the type of wide receiver that even when covered, he is open due to his gargantuan size and freakish athleticism. He is still unpolished in several areas, but there is a ton of untapped potential with on-field ability that would warrant top-five overall consideration in this draft class. However, there are strong red flags that will eliminate Green-Beckham from some NFL team?s draft boards and not just legal troubles, but also underachiever tendencies and doubts whether he has the work ethic and drive in his belly to reach his full potential. Fair or not, the Josh Gordon situation will be on the minds of any team that discussion the risks and rewards of drafting him.

    A five-star wide receiver recruit out of high school, Green-Beckham had every major FBS program knocking at his door, but he decided to stay in-state and enroll at Missouri. He made an instant impact as a true freshman with 28 catches for 395 yards and five touchdowns in 2012, earning Freshman All-American honors by several outlets. Green-Beckham blossomed further as a sophomore starter in 2013 with a team-high 59 receptions for 883 yards and 12 touchdowns over 14 starts, earning Second Team All-SEC honors. He was dismissed from Mizzou after a third off-field incident (April 2014) and enrolled at Oklahoma, although he had to sit out the season after his waiver to play immediately was denied. Green-Beckham decided to give up his remaining eligibility to enter the 2015 NFL Draft, having never played a down for the Sooners.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1852914/preston-smith

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Boasts an impressive wingspan and heavy hands to engage and dispose of blockers, using an array of rush moves to tear through blocks. Smith also lines up as a 1-technique lineman inside on obvious passing downs, using his initial quickness and power to penetrate the A-gap and create interior pressure.

    WEAKNESSES: Is not a quick-twitch rusher and rarely beats offensive tackles with speed off the edge.

    –Dane Brugler

    Player Overview
    As a first-year starter as a junior in 2013, Smith finished with 2.5 sacks and 6.5 tackles for loss, but he has far exceeded those totals, leading the 2014 Bulldogs with 7.0 sacks and 11.5 tackles for loss.

    While not a dynamic threat, Smith plays motivated and has the versatile skill-set that will be attractive to pro scouts.

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    I’ve saved over a thousand quotes now,
    over the last five years or so. Like i wrote
    i keep em organized in categories. But a month or so ago,
    i decided, just for fun to go thru all of em, and pick my
    favorites and put them in one unorganized lump. So, i first
    cut the 1000 down to 500. Then the 500 down to 250. Etc.

    This is the last group i ended up with. Fwiw.
    (Course as one changes, one’s favorite quotes change…)

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    Favorite Random Quotes

    “Make your own Bible. Select and collect all the words and sentences that
    in all your readings have been to you like the blast of a trumpet.”
    — Ralph Waldo Emerson
    ——————–

    “It’s a bit embarrassing to have been concerned with the human
    problem all one’s life and find at the end that one has no more to offer by way of advice than‘try to be a little kinder.’ “ Aldous Huxley

    “We have not yet encountered any god who is as merciful as a man who flicks a beetle over on its feet.” ― Annie Dillard, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek

    “People of our time are losing the power of celebration. Instead of celebrating we seek to be amused or entertained. Celebration is an active state, an act of expressing reverence or appreciation. To be entertained is a passive state–it is to receive pleasure afforded by an amusing act or a spectacle…. Celebration is a confrontation, giving attention to the transcendent meaning of one’s actions.” — Abraham Joshua Heschel

    “You have come to the shore. There are no directions.” Denise Levertov

    “Ideally, what should be said to every child, repeatedly, throughout his or her school life is something like this: ‘You are in the process of being indoctrinated. We have not yet evolved a system of education that is not a system of indoctrination. We are sorry, but it is the best we can do. What you are being taught here is an amalgam of current prejudice and the choices of this particular culture. The slightest look at history will show how impermanent these must be. You are being taught by people who have been able to accommodate themselves to a regime of thought laid down by their predecessors. It is a self-perpetuating system. Those of you who are more robust and individual than others will be encouraged to leave and find ways of educating yourself — educating your own judgements. Those that stay must remember, always, and all the time, that they are being moulded and patterned to fit into the narrow and particular needs of this particular society.” ― Doris Lessing, The Golden Notebook

    “The sight of human affairs deserves admiration and pity. And he is
    not insensible who pays them the undemonstrative tribute of a
    sigh which is not a sob, and of a smile that is not a grin.” Joseph Conrad

    “The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, or to steal bread.” Anatole France

    “..James Baldwin wrote in the ‘Fire Next Time’ that if you cant
    suffer you cant really grow up— because there’s no real
    change you go through. M.Scott Peck tells us “All change is
    a moment of Loss.” And usually at a moment of loss we feel
    sorrow, grief, pain even. And if people don’t have the apparatus
    by which they can bear that pain, there can only be this attempt
    to avoid it– and that’s where the place of so much addiction is
    in our life….its in the place or ‘let me not feel it’….”
    Bell Hooks

    “The greatest mystery is not that we have been flung at random between this profusion of matter and the stars, but that within this prison we can draw from ourselves images powerful enough to deny our nothingness.” Les Noyers de l’Altenburg: Andre Malraux

    “There are places in the heart that do not yet exist; suffering has to enter in for them to come to be.” Leon Bloy

    “And throughout all eternity, I forgive you, and you forgive me…” William Blake

    “Know emptiness, be Compassionate.” Milarepa

    “There are no others.” Ramana Maharshi

    “I believe that the universe is one being, all its parts are different expressions of the same energy, and they are all in communication with each other, therefore parts of one organic whole. (This is physics, I believe, as well as religion.) The parts change and pass, or die, people and races and rocks and stars; none of them seems to me important it itself, but only the whole. The whole is in all its parts so beautiful, and is felt by me to be so intensely in earnest, that I am compelled to love it, and to think of it as divine. It seems to me that this whole alone is worthy of the deeper sort of love; and that there is peace, freedom, I might say a kind of salvation, in turning one’s affections outward toward this one God, rather than inwards on one’s self, or on humanity, or on human imaginations and abstractions, the world of the spirits.”- Robinson Jeffers, 1934

    “Live your questions now, and perhaps even without knowing it, you will live along some distant day into your answers. ” — Rainer Maria Rilke

    “Why do we people in churches seem like cheerful, brainless tourists on a packaged tour of the Absolute?” A. Dillard

    “The love of our neighbor in all its fullness, simply means being able to say, “What are you going through?” Simone Weil

    “When we honestly ask ourselves which person in our lives means the most to us, we often find that is those who, instead of giving much advice, solutions, or cures, have chosen rather to share our pain and touch our wounds with a gentle and tender hand. The friend who can be silent with us in a moment of despair or confusion, who can stay with us in our hour of grief and bereavement, who can tolerate not knowing, not curing, not healing, and face with us the reality of our powerlessness, that is a friend who cares.” Henri Nouwen.

    “…when we finally know we are dying, and all other sentient beings are dying with us, we start to have a burning, almost heartbreaking sense of the fragility and preciousness of each moment and each being, and from this can grow a deep, clear, limitless compassion for all beings.” Sogyal Rinpoche

    “The creation of a work of art, like an act of love, is our one small yes at the center of a vast no.” ― Gore Vidal

    “…Becker argues that… since man has a dualistic nature consisting of a physical self and a symbolic self, man is able to transcend the dilemma of mortality through heroism, a concept involving his symbolic half. By embarking on what Becker refers to as an “immortality project,” in which he creates or becomes part of something which he feels will last forever, man feels he has become heroic and, henceforth, part of something eternal…”(Wiki – “Denial of Death” by Ernest Becker)

    “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. ”
    — Jiddu Krishnamurti

    “In fact, I suspect that our only hope is disaster. Cruel tho’ it is to say it, there has got to be a vast die-off in the human population — likely including us and our families — before the survivors find themselves in a world where a new and humble and ‘religious’ adaptation with nature is possible. Disaster is not necessary; the better world could be achieved through reason and common sense and a sense of fellowship — but most of the present human world is dead set against us…” Edward Abbey, Postcards from Ed: Dispatches and Salvos from an American Iconoclast

    “Love all God’s creation, both the whole and every grain of sand. Love every leaf, every ray of light. Love the animals, love the plants, love each separate thing. If thou love each thing thou wilt perceive the mystery of God in all; and when once thou perceive this, thou wilt thenceforward grow every day to a fuller understanding of it: until thou come at last to love the whole world with a love that will then be all-embracing and universal.” Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

    “Education either functions as an instrument which is used to facilitate integration of the younger generation into the logic of the present system and bring about conformity, or, it becomes the practice of freedom, the means by which men and women deal critically and creatively with reality and discover how to participate in the transformation of their world.” ― Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed

    “I know not how I may seem to others, but to myself I am but a small child wandering upon the vast shores of knowledge, every now and then finding a small bright pebble to content myself with.” ― Plato

    “Resignation, not mystic, not detached, but resignation open-eyed, conscious, and informed by love, is the only one of our feelings for which it is impossible to become a sham.” ― Joseph Conrad

    “There is no neutral education. Education is either for domestication or for freedom.” -Joao Coutinho

    “…Because the schools serve an economic system rather than a
    political or philosophical idea, they promote, not unreasonably
    , the habits of mind necessary to the preservation of that system,
    which is why an American education resembles the commercial
    procedure that changes caterpillers into silkworms instead of
    butterflies. Silkworms can be turned to a profit, but butterflies
    blow around in the wind and do nothing to add to the wealth
    of the corporation or the power of the state. “ L.Lapham

    “The river that flows in you also flows in me.” — Kabir

    “Love is an act of endless forgiveness, a tender look which becomes a habit.”
    Peter Ustinov

    “Let us not underestimate how hard it is to be compassionate. Compassion is hard because it requires the inner disposition to go with others to place where they are weak, vulnerable, lonely, and broken. But this is not our spontaneous response to suffering. What we desire most is to do away with suffering by fleeing from it or finding a quick cure for it.” — Henri J.M. Nouwen

    “I wish I could show you, when you are lonely or in the darkness,
    ghe Astonishing Light, of your own Being! — Hafiz

    “Life is a shipwreck but we must remember to sing in the lifeboats” ― Voltaire

    “Alice wonders if other women in the middle of the night have begun to resent their Formica.” — Barbara Kingsolver

    “I’d tried to straighten him out, but there’s only so much you can do for a person who thinks Auschwitz is a brand of beer.” — David Sedaris

    “Telling me I can do anything I want is like pulling the plug out of the bath and then telling the water it can go anywhere it wants. Try it, and see what happens.”
    — Nick Hornby (A Long Way Down)

    “I hate goddamn fruits and vegetables. And your omega 3’s, and the treadmill, and the cardiogram, and the mammogram, and the pelvic sonogram, and oh my god the colonoscopy, and with it all, the day still comes where they put you in a box, and its on to the next generation of idiots, who’ll also tell you all about life and define for you what’s appropriate. My father committed suicide because the morning newspapers depressed him. And could you blame him? With the horror, and corruption, and ignorance, and poverty, and genocide, and AIDS, and global warming, and terrorism, and-and the family value morons, and the gun morons. “The horror,” Kurtz said at the end of Heart of Darkness, “the horror.” Lucky Kurtz didn’t have the Times delivered in the jungle. Ugh… then he’d see some horror. But what do you do? You read about some massacre in Darfur or some school bus gets blown up, and you go “Oh my God, the horror,” and then you turn the page and finish your eggs from the free range chickens. Because what can you do. It’s overwhelming!” — Woody Allen

    “God is the experience of looking at a tree and saying, ‘Ah!” ― Joseph Campbell

    “We’re in a freefall into future. We don’t know where we’re going. Things are changing so fast, and always when you’re going through a long tunnel, anxiety comes along. And all you have to do to transform your hell into a paradise is to turn your fall into a voluntary act. It’s a very interesting shift of perspective and that’s all it is… joyful participation in the sorrows and everything changes. — Joseph Campbell

    “The first half of life is devoted to forming a healthy ego, the second half is going inward and letting go of it.” ― C.G. Jung

    Shambhala: “Spiritual awareness isnt feelings?” Ken Wilber: “No, it is not feelings, it is the awareness of feelings. And that awareness itself is free of feelings and free of thoughts, and allows both feelings and thoughts to float by, just as clouds float by in the emptiness of the sky. But if you confuse experiential feelings with that emptiness, then you will confuse emotionalism and sentimentalism with spirit, and this is often the first step on a regressive slide into the unending world of your own subjective fascination. You don’t transcend the self, you simply feel the self intensely, and this is called “spiritual.” This is a bit of a mess, really….”

    Pre-Trans Fallacy – Ken Wilber — Excerpt from “One Taste” p.103
    “… “The Pre/Trans Fallacy”…is a simple concept. It says that because both pre-rational and trans-rational are non-rational, they are easily confused. And then one of two very unfortunate things happens: either mature, spiritual, trans-rational states get reduced to infantile, pre-rational states; or, infantile, narcissistic, pre-rational states get elevated to trans-rational glory. Reductionism and elevationism. Freud was a typical reductionist, who tried to reduce profound nondual mystical states to primary narcissism and infantile oceanic fusion: The Future Of An Illusion. And Jung was a typical elevationist, who took pre-rational myth, and elevated it to transcendental greatness….
    ….It used to be that the real threats to genuine spiritual studies were the reductionists, but an even greater threat has surfaced from the new-age movement, namely, the elevationists. These folks, with many good and decent intentions, nonetheless take some rather infantile, childish, egocentric states and simply because they are ‘nonrational’ re-label them ‘sacred’ or ‘spiritual’ which is definitely a problem….
    …Alas, it seems to me, much of the ‘spiritual renaissance’ supposedly sweeping this country is really a case of pre-rational regression, not trans-rational growth…
    …this entire package of ‘spirit’ is being sold by publishers and book clubs at an astonishing rate…. “

    “Years ago I recognized my kinship with all living things, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on the earth. I said then and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.” E.Debbs

    “Charity . . . is the opium of the privileged.” Chinua Achebe, Anthills of the Savannah

    “I had once believed that we were all masters of our fate–that we could mold our lives into any form we pleased… I had overcome deafness and blindness sufficiently to be happy, and I supposed that anyone could come out victorious if he threw himself valiantly into life’s struggle. But as I went more and more about the country I learned that I had spoken with assurance on a subject I knew little about… I learned that the power to rise in the world is not within the reach of everyone.” — Helen Keller

    “In practice legal mythology is primarily directed at obscuring
    the bitter struggle between the classes and at articulating in
    consciousness the view that law is unaligned with any interests…
    …law can be characterized in its modern period, by the
    conscious camouflaging of interests…expressing in human
    relationships on one hand, while hiding its relation to
    economics institutions on the other…legal theorists believe
    ‘will’, rather than material conditions to be the basis of law. …
    the state is the political form through which the ruling class
    controls and mediates class antagonisms…..law is fundamentally
    class law…..
    “The law is therefore a regulation of equality among unequals.
    For those who believe the official slogans of the ruling class
    — that we are a government of laws and not men,
    and that our system guarantees equal protection —
    Anatole France once answered by describing how
    “the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well
    as the poor from sleeping under the bridge.” …the law is an
    expression of political ideology and propaganda as well as
    an instrument of oppression….”
    M.E. Tigar (radical lawyers)

    “When you plant lettuce, if it does not grow well, you
    don’t blame the lettuce. You look for reasons it is not
    doing well. It may need fertilizer, or more water, or
    less sun. You never blame the lettuce…” — Thich Nhat Hanh

    “For if you suffer your people to be ill-educated, and their manners to be corrupted from their infancy, and then punish them for those crimes to which their first education disposed them, what else is to be concluded from this, but that you first make thieves and then punish them.” ― Thomas More Utopia

    “Love means to love that which is unlovable; or it is no virtue at all.”
    ― G.K. Chesterton

    “…Buddhist teacher Daisaku Ikeda told me there are three types
    of love: dependent, independent and contributive….dependent
    love is controlling, manipulative…independent is characterized by
    mutual respect and a strong sense of individuality…the happiest and
    least common type of love relationship is contributive — an
    independent relationship in which the partners ALSO share a sense
    of mission in life…” T.Gold

    “If falling in love is not love, then what is it other than a temporary
    and partial collapse of ego boundaries? I do not know. But the
    sexual specificity of the phenomenon leads me to suspect
    that it is a genetically determined instinctual component of
    mating behavior. In other words, the temporary collapse of ego
    boundaries that constitute falling in love is a sterotypic response
    of human beings to a configuration of internal sexual drives and
    external sexual stimuli which serves to increase the probability
    of sexual pairing and bonding so as to enhance the survival of
    the species. Scott Peck.

    “…I heard a fable once about the sun going on a journey
    to find its source, and how the moon wept
    without her lover’s warm gaze.” Meister Eckhart

    “Where love rules, there is no will to power and where power predominates, love is lacking. The one is the shadow of the other. – Carl G. Jung

    “There is a way of loving
    not attached to what is loved…
    All love without an object,
    is true love…” Rumi

    “To me every hour of the light and dark is a miracle
    Every cubic inch of space is a miracle,
    Every square yard of the surface of the Earth is spread with the same,
    Every foot of the interior swarms with the same.
    To me the sea is a continual miracle,
    The fishes that swim — the rocks — the motion of the waves —
    the ships with men in them.
    What stranger miracles are there?” Walt Whitman

    “Mysticism means nothing, absolutely nothing,
    to the man who has no experience of it.” H.Bergson

    “…. all blades of grass, wood, and stone, all things are One. “ – Meister Eckhart

    “The overcoming of all the usual barriers between the individual
    and the Absolute Is the great mystic achievement. In mystic
    states we both become one with the Absolute and we become
    aware of our Oneness. …we feel them as reconciling, unifying
    states. They appeal to the yes-funcion more than the no-function
    in us. In them the unlimited absorbs the limits and peacefully
    closes the account. … W.James

    “All things in this creation exist within you, and all things
    in you exist in creation; there is no border between you and
    the closest things, and there is no distance between you
    and the farthest things, and all things, from the lowest
    to the loftiest, from the smallest to the greatest, are
    within you as equal things. In one atom are found
    all the elements of the earth; in one motion of
    the mind are found the motions of all the laws of existence;
    in one drop of water are found the secrets of all the
    endless oceans; in one aspect of you
    are found all the aspects of existence.” – Kahlil Gibran

    “The invariable mark of wisdom is to see the
    miraculous in the common.” Ralph Waldo Emerson

    “To see a World in a Grain of Sand
    And a heaven in a Wild Flower,
    Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
    And Eternity in an hour.” – William Blake, Auguries of Innocence, 1863

    “Mystical experience….is a direct intuition of ultimate reality.”
    Aldous Huxley

    “Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders…and millions have been killed because of this obedience…Our problem is that people are obedient allover the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves… (and) the grand thieves are running the country. That’s our problem.” ― Howard Zinn

    “The sight of your cities pains the eyes of the red man. But perhaps it is because the red man is a savage and does not understand. There is no quiet place in the white man’s cities, no place to hear the leaves of spring or the rustle of insects’ wings. Perhaps it is because I am a savage and do not understand, but the clatter only seems to insult the ears.The Indian prefers the soft sound of the wind darting over the face of the pond, the smell of the wind itself cleansed by a midday rain, or scented with pinon pine. The air is precious to the red man, for all things share the same breath – the animals, the trees, the man.Like a man who has been dying for many days, a man in your city is numb to the stench.” Chief Seattle – Suqwamish & Duwamish

    “Who can say what heartbreaks are caused in a dog by our discontinuing a romp?” ― Vladimir Nabokov, Lolita

    “The earth laughs in flowers.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson

    “ We need a wiser and perhaps more mystical concept of wolves. Man surveys the wolf through the glass of his knowledge, and sees a feather magnified, and the whole image is distorted. We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves. And therin we err. For no animal shall be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours, they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth. Henry Beston, The Outermost House

    “Butterflies are self propelled flowers. ~R.H. Heinlein

    ”The butterfly is a flying flower, The flower a tethered butterfly.
    ~Ponce Denis Écouchard Lebrun

    ”There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it’s going to be
    a butterfly. ~Richard Buckminster Fuller

    “…Then came the embrace. There are ways to embrace a woman that are
    standard and there are ways that are perfect. This was the latter. If
    you are tall as I am, you begin to notice that men about your height
    always try to arrange for the first embrace-kiss sequence to take place
    while you are seated, so that they can subtly slide you down and deliver
    the coup de grace of the embrace, the declaratory kiss, from above
    with your head bent back and your throat exposed so you’re like an
    animal signaling submission to a larger member of the species. The
    nice thing with Nelson was that no kiss followed. The embrace was
    not just the scaffolding for the great declaratory kiss. The best standing-up embrace
    is like that one, slightly off-center so
    that you have his leg and not his actual temeraire up against you,
    one hand on the base of your spine, and you are brought in
    against him but not smashingly. His cheek is at your ear, but not
    occluding your actual ear canal. His breath is in your hair. Then
    you want to feel him sinking against you, slightly, suggesting relief,
    repose: the embrace from something, not simply stage one in a
    campaign of possession…” N.Rush, in the novel “Mating”

    “The sage must distinguish between knowledge and wisdom. Knowledge is of things, acts and relations….To become One with god is the only wisdom.” Upanishads

    “Every creature is a word of God.” Miester Ekhart (1260-1328)
    “In the East, disentangling oneself from the world and realizing the One is equated with wisdom. Subsequently descending and returning to embrace the Many is equated with compassion, and the integration of ascent and descent is “the union of wisdom and compassion”. From this nondual perspective, the world and the flesh are not evil or degraded. However, becoming entranced by them, that is, becoming entrapped in maya, illusion–what psychologist Charles Tart calls the consensus trance–and thereby losing awareness of the transcendental domains and our unity with them is disastrous. Once lost, the challenge is to regain this awareness through a discipline of “recollection” that opens “the eye of the soul” (Plato), “the eye of the heart” (Sufism) or “the eye of Tao” (Taoism). The goal is an illusion-shattering wisdom that recognizes our true transcendental nature and is variously known as Hinduism’s jnana, Buddhism’s prajna, Islam’s marifah and sometimes as Christian gnosis…” Roger Walsh
    “Don’t make a self. There’s nothing more to say.” Ajahn Chah
    “All there is, is Consciousness. And the mind is merely a reflection of that Consciousness.” Ramesh S. Balsekar

    “The Buddha taught some people the teachings of Duality
    that help them avoid sin and acquire spiritual merit.
    To others he taught non-duality,
    that some find profoundly frightening.” Nagarjuna

    “The stream of human knowledge is impartially heading towards a non-mechanical reality. The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter. We are beginning to suspect that we ought rather to hail it as the creator and governor of this realm. “ Sir James Jeans

    “..In other words, ‘in this model,’ consciousness is a function of the
    subquantal implicate order of Bohm, functioning Non-Locally.
    Consciousness, ‘in this model’ is not ‘in’ our heads. Our brains are
    merely local recievers; consciousness is ‘an aspect of the non-local-field.
    The ‘ego’ then is a LOCALLY TUNED IN aspect of this usually NOT tuned-in
    Non-Local-Field. This sounds like Schrodinger’s notion that if you add up
    all the ‘minds’ around, the total you will arrive at is one.
    If this model has any value — if it is sensible to talk of ‘consciousness’ as
    non-local ‘software’ rather than local ‘hardware’ — then it is
    permissible to ask to what extent a local reciever, or ‘ego,’ can tune
    in or influence the non-local-field…” Robert Anton Wilson

    “Buddhism stands unique in the history of human thought in denying the existence of a Soul, Self or Atman. According to the teachings of the Buddha, the idea of self is an imaginary, false belief which has no corresponding reality, and it produces harmful thoughts of ‘me’ and ‘mine’, selfish desire, craving, attachment, hatred, ill-will, conceit, pride, egoism, and other defilements, impurities and problems. It is the source of all troubles in the world from personal conflicts to wars between nations. In short, to this false view can be traced all the evil in the world. —What the Buddha Taught by Walpola Rahula

    “A human being is part of the whole called by us universe … We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive. (Albert Einstein

    “All things come out of the One, and the One out of all things.” Heraclitus 500 B.C.

    “Reality cannot be found except in One single source, because of the interconnection of all things with one another. (Leibniz, 1670

    “The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths. These persons have an appreciation, a sensitivity, and an understanding of life that fills them with compassion, gentleness, and a deep loving concern. Beautiful people do not just happen.” ― Elisabeth Kübler-Ross

    “To wound the heart is to create it.” Antonio Porchia

    “The heart breaks and breaks
    and lives by breaking
    it is necessary to go through
    dark and deeper dark
    and not to turn ” ― Stanley Kunitz, The Testing Tree

    “In order to rise
    From its own ashes
    A phoenix
    First
    Must
    Burn.” – Octavia Butler

    “Difficulties are considered of such great value that a Tibetan prayer recited before each step of practice actually asks for them: “Grant that I be given appropriate difficulties and sufferings on this journey so that my heart may be truly awakened and my practice of liberation and universal compassion be truly fulfilled.”
    J.Kornfield

    “Letting go is the central theme in spiritual practice, as we see the preciousness and brevity of life. When letting go is called for, if we have not learned to do so, we suffer greatly….letting go and moving through life from one change to another brings the maturing of our spiritual being. In the End, we learn that to Love and Let Go can be the same thing. Both ways do not seek to possess. Both allow us to touch each moment of this changing life and allow us to be there fully for whatever arises next… “ J.Kornfield

    “Our present economic, social, and international agreements are based, in large measure, upon organized lovelessness.” Aldous Huxley

    “For the poor, the economic is spiritual.” Gandhi

    “The almost insoluble task is to let neither the power of others nor our own powerlessness, stupefy us.” Theodor Adorno (1903-1969
    “Call a thing immoral or ugly, soul-destroying or a degradation to man, a peril to the peace of the world or to the well-being of future generations: as long as you have not shown it to be “uneconomic” you have not really questioned its right to exist, grow, and prosper.” ― E.F. Schumacher

    “The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.” Karl Marx

    “The cannon thunders…limbs fly in all directions…one can hear the groans of victims and the howling of those performing the sacrifice…it’s Humanity in search of happiness” ― Charles Baudelaire

    “My viewpoint, in telling the history of the United States, is different: that we must not accept the memory of states as our own. Nations are not communities and never have been. The history of any country, presented as the history of a family, conceals fierce conflicts of interest (sometimes exploding, most often repressed) between conquerors and conquered, masters and slaves, capitalists and workers, dominators and dominated in race and sex. And in such a world of conflict, a world of victims and executioners, it is the job of thinking people, as Albert Camus suggested, not to be on the side of the executioners.” Howard Zinn, A People’s History of the United State

    “Washing one’s hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. ” ― Paulo Freire

    “Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.” ― Denis Diderot

    “The sun, the moon and the stars would have disappeared long ago… had they happened to be within the reach of predatory human hands.” ~Havelock Ellis, The Dance of Life

    “A hierarchal society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. The war is waged by the ruling group against its subjects, and its object is not victory, but to keep the very structure of society in tact.” -George Orwell

    “The destruction of the Indians of the Americas was, far and away, the most massive act of genocide in the history of the world. That is why, as one historian aptly has said, far from the heroic and romantic heraldry that customarily is used to symbolize the European settlement of the Americas, the emblem most congruent with reality would be a pyramid of skulls.” — David E. Stannard (American Holocaust: The Conquest of the New World

    “That is what I have always understood to be the essence of anarchism: the conviction that the burden of proof has to be placed on authority, and that it should be dismantled if that burden cannot be met.” — Noam Chomsky

    “Everyone’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s really an easy way: Stop participating in it.” — Noam Chomsky

    “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum.” Noam Chomsky

    “It was in Spain that [my generation] learned that one can be right and yet be beaten, that force can vanquish spirit, that there are times when courage is not its own recompense. It is this, doubtless, which explains why so many, the world over, feel the Spanish drama as a personal tragedy.” — Albert Camus

    “Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.” Bertrand Russell

    “In democratic countries, the most important private organizations are economic. Unlike secret societies, they are able to exercize their terrorism without illegality, since they do not threaten to kill their enemies, but only to starve them.” Bertrand Russell

    Marine Colonel, Smedley Butler (1933) — “War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses……I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”

    “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist” Camara,Helder

    “I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth, and I am a citizen of the world.” ~Eugene V. Debs

    Louis Brandeis: “We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can’t have both.”

    “Simplifying to the extreme, I define postmodern as incredulity toward metanarratives.” ― Jean-François Lyotard, The Postmodern Condition

    “Emotions, in my experience, aren’t covered by single words. I don’t believe in “sadness,” “joy,” or “regret.” Maybe the best proof that the language is patriarchal is that it oversimplifies feeling. I’d like to have at my disposal complicated hybrid emotions, Germanic train-car constructions like, say, “the happiness that attends disaster.” Or: “the disappointment of sleeping with one’s fantasy.” I’d like to show how “intimations of mortality brought on by aging family members” connects with “the hatred of mirrors that begins in middle age.” I’d like to have a word for “the sadness inspired by failing restaurants” as well as for “the excitement of getting a room with a minibar.” I’ve never had the right words to describe my life, and now that I’ve entered my story, I need them more than ever. ” ― Jeffrey Eugenides, Middlesex

    “On Prozac, Sisyphus might well push the boulder back up the mountain with more enthusiasm and creativity. I do not want to deny the benefits of psychoactive medication. I just want to point out that Sisyphus is not a patient with a mental health problem. To see him as a patient with a mental health problem is to ignore certain larger aspects of his predicament connected to boulders, mountains, and eternity.” ― Carl Elliott

    “…Intimacy is telling your partner the main thing on your mind and feeling that he or she understands… On any given day people have certain feelings that they feel ashamed of ie, that they judge themselves to be weak, bad, crazy, immature, unmanly, or unfeminine for having. They react to such judgment by…doing the following: 1) Lose the ability to get these feelings across 2) Generate Symptoms [lash out for example] 3) snap into alienated states 4) experience decrease in intimacy 5) lose the capacity to think 6) become self-blaming. Mental life to a large extent is a struggle for self-justification. …the mind is a self-justifying organ…
    ….in response to self-blaming people do two further things 7) engage in self-justification 8) blame their partners…. Mental life is to an important extent an ongoing effort at self-justification to deal with self-blame….what do people do when they are harangued by their harsh internal voice….they run for cover…take warm bath…go to a movie, watch television, go shopping, run around the block, clean the closets, …anything to distract themselves and drown out their internal taskmaster’s voice “ Dan Wile

    “I have been an outspoken critic of some New Age Spirituality.
    I don’t like sloppy thinking, a refusal to ask questions, or an easy acceptance of things we cannot know to be true because we find them comforting or far more entertaining than our everyday busy lives, and I have seen too much of all this in some New Age philosophies and groups. I think its dangerous.
    Of course there is some truth in all of these judgments, and I will continue to raise questions about the claims made by all spiritual paths because I am interested in learning the truth as far as we can know it. But there are ways to raise questions that open inquiry – that make it ‘our’ inquiry – and other ways to pose questions that close down communication. And there are ways intended to distinguish between ‘us’ and ‘them,’ ways that aim to make me feel right – more authentic, grounded, intelligent – by making the other wrong…” Oriah (the Dance)

    “The perennial philosophy holds that the world’s great spiritual traditions, in spite
    of their obvious differences, express the same fundamental truth about the nature
    of reality, a truth that can be directly apprehended during mystical experience. Implicit
    in the perennial philosophy is the notion that mystical perceptions transcend time, place
    culture, and individual identity. Just as a farmer in first century China and a web sitedesigner in twenty-first century New York see the same moon when the look skyward,so will they glimpse the same truth in the depths of a mystical vision. J. Horgan

    “Huston Smith likened religions to “a stained glass window whose sections divide the light of the world into different colors.” J Horgan

    “Nondual Awareness does not make your problems vanish, Wilber said, so much as it distances you from them. Emotions pass through your awareness “like clouds in the sky” he said, pointing to the roof of our glassed-in chamber. “You have a sense of skyness and not a sense of contracting on everything that comes along.”
    Enlightenment can also help you come to terms with your mortality. “To the extent’
    that you stay relaxed in this open state, death doesn’t have this overpowering terror.”
    But nondual awareness does not resolve the mystery of death, at least not in Wilber’s case. “There is a great Zen koan where a zen master was asked what happens when we die. The zen master says “I don’t know.” And the student says “But you’re a zen master.” And he says, “Yes, but not a dead one.”
    Rational Mysticism. J.Horgan.

    “…In Psychedlic Drugs Reconsidered, Lester Grinspoon suggested the
    chief benefit of psychedelics is “enriching the wonder of normality”
    — that is, enhancing our appreciation of ordinary consciousness
    and ordinary life. …but psychedelics can have the opposite effect
    This world may seem drab in comparison to the bizarre virtual realms
    into which LSD or DMT propel us. Instead of opening our eyes to the
    miraculousness of everyday reality, psychedelics can blind us. …
    …to be enlightened Ken Wilber once wrote, “is to snap out of the
    movie of life”. This is perhaps the greatest danger of mysticism,
    that you will be left with a permanent case of dereallization and
    depersonalization. If you are lucky your glimpse of the abyss will make this life seem more real, not less. J Horgan (Rational Mysticism

    “You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, burning bushes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?” ― Mark Twain

    “If I believe in anything, it is in the dark night of the soul. Awe is my religion, and mystery is its church.” — Charles Simic

    “The wedding of Christianity or Judaism with nationalism is lethal.” — Arthur Miller

    “If triangles had a God, he would have three sides.
    Baron de Montesquieu

    “Christianity began to die in the moment when theologians began to
    treat the divine story as history — when they mistook the story of God,
    of the Creation, and the Fall for a record of facts in the historical past.
    For the past goes ever back and back into nothing; it never leads to its
    Creator, to its explanation — at least not in the backward direction. For
    the past is the creation, the empty echo of the Now. Time does not
    flow forward from a Creator who ‘made’ the world; if flows backwards
    , like the tail of a comet, from a Creator who ‘makes’ the world and whom
    no-one can remember.” Alan Watts

    “The World is divided into armed camps ready to commit genocide just because we can’t agree on whose fairy tales to believe. In the end, Religion will kill us all.” — Ed Krebs

    “It would be absurd if we did not understand both angels and devils, since we invented them.” — John Steinbeck (East of Eden

    “Can one be a saint if God does not exist?
    That is the only concrete problem I know of today. A.Camus 1913-1960

    “Now, now my good man, this is no time for making enemies. “
    Voltaire on his deathbed in response to a priest asking that he renounce Satan

    “ …what hurts you blesses you.
    Darkness is your candle…
    Rumi

    “Become a moth: enter the flame! – Rumi

    “…Galway Kinnell said that the core of soul art is a ‘tenderness toward existence.’
    Coleman Barks

    “… there are two major streamings in consciousness, particularly in the ecstatic life, and in Rumi’s poetry: call them Fana and Baqa, Arabic words that refer to the play and intersection of human with divine. Rumi’s poetry occurs in that opening, a dervish doorway these energies move through in either direction. A movement out, a movement in. Fana is the streaming that moves from the human out into mystery– the annihilation, the orgasmic expansion, the dissolving swoon into the all…. wild and
    boundaryless absorptions….”What was in that candle’s light that opened and consumed me so quickly!”. That is the moth’s question after Fana, after it becomes flame. There is an extravagance in the magnificent disintegration of Fana… Three hundred billion galaxies might seem a bit gaudy to some, but not to this awareness….Fana is what opens our wings… Its human-becoming-God. …this is the ocean with no shore into which the dewdrop falls…
    Baqa goes the other way across the doorsill. The Arabic word means a ‘living within’: it is the walk back down the mountain, where the vision came, life lived with clarity and reason… The concentration of a night of stars into one needle’s eye. …The absorbing work of ‘this’ day…. God-becoming-human. …compassion and work within a community…Baqa is also a return from expansion into each’s unique individuation work, into pain and effort, confusion and dark comedy….the deep knowing of absence. Baqa is where animal and angel meet in an awkward but truly human dance. It’s a breathtaking birth, the dying and then being born again that all religions know isthe essence of soul growth… Bodhisattval service… Baqa brings the next stage in the process of prayer: there’s the opening into annihilation, then the coming back to tend specific
    people. A melody, the little band coming up through Beethoven’s Ninth. This is the ocean coming to court the drop! …
    By letting these two conditions, Fana and Baqa , flow and exist simultaneously in his poetry, Rumi is saying that they are one thing, the core of a
    true human being… The Soul of Rumi, by Coleman Barks

    “The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of true art and true science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, no longer marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed. It was the experience of mystery — even if mixed with fear — that engendered religion. A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, our perceptions of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which only in their most primitive forms are accessible to our minds: it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute true religiosity. In this sense, and only this sense, I am a deeply religious man… I am satisfied with the mystery of life’s eternity and with a knowledge, a sense, of the marvelous structure of existence — as well as the humble attempt to understand even a tiny portion of the Reason that manifests itself in nature.”Always remember: the journey is all. The destination is beside the point”. Albert Einstein

    “The tendency of modern physics is to resolve the whole material universe into waves, and nothing but waves. These waves are of two kinds: bottled-up waves, which we call matter, and unbottled waves, which we call radiation or light. If annihilation of matter occurs, the process is merely that of unbottling imprisoned wave-energy and setting it free to travel through space. These concepts reduce the whole universe to a world of light, potential or existent, so that the whole story of its creation can be told with perfect accuracy and completeness in the six words: ‘God said, Let there be light’.
    — Sir James Jeans The Mysterious Universe (1930), 37-8.

    “Something unknown is doing we don’t know what—that is what our theory amounts to.[Expressing the quantum theory description of an electron has no familiar conception of a real form.] Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington The Nature Of The Physical World (1928)

    “There aren’t just bad people that commit genocide; we are all capable of it. It’s our evolutionary history. James Lovelock

    “Everything you’ve learned in school as ‘obvious’ becomes less and less obvious as you begin to study the universe. For example, there are no solids in the universe. There’s not even a suggestion of a solid. There are no absolute continuums. There are no surfaces. There are no straight lines.” Buckminster Fuller

    “I don’t know what I am. I know that I am not a category. I am not a thing — a noun. I seem to be a verb, an evolutionary process, an integral function of the universe.” B. Fuller

    “…The statement that we are all “star stuff,” coined by the late astronomer Carl Sagan (not sure if this was before or after Joni Mitchell sang “we are stardust; we are golden. we are billion year old carbon”), is meant to imply more than that we are made of the same elements that stars are made of. Beyond that, the elements themselves (carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, etc.) were synthesized, cooked up as it were, in the nuclear furnaces that are the deep interior of stars. These elements are then released at the end of a star’s lifetime when it explodes, and subsequently incorporated into a new generation of stars — and into the planets that form around the stars, and the lifeforms that originate on the planets. M. Loewenstein

    “All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.” ― Max Planck

    “The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.” ― Werner Heisenberg

    “Not only is the Universe stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think.”
    ― Werner Heisenberg Across the Frontiers

    “Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it that breathes fire into the equations and makes a universe for them to describe? The usual approach of science of constructing a mathematical model cannot answer the questions of why there should be a universe for the model to describe. Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing?” ― Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of Time

    “The reduction of the universe to the compass of a single being,
    and the extension of a single being until it reaches God – that is love. .” — Victor Hugo

    “There is a saying that ‘the psychotic drowns in the waters that the mystic swims in.’ The health and structural integrity of the ego means the difference between spiritual emergence, the unfolding of a transpersonal identity; and a spiritual emergency a crisis brought on by the same unfolding, during which the foundations of sanity can be shaken.” — Jason Kirkey (The Salmon in the Spring: The Ecology of Celtic Spirituality

    “All love is expansion, all selfishness is contraction. Love is therefore the only law of life. He who loves lives, he who is selfish is dying. Therefore love for love’s sake, because it is law of life, just as you breathe to live. — Swami Vivekananda

    “There must be those among whom we can sit down and weep and still be counted as warriors.” — Adrienne Rich

    “Why is it that only girls stand on the sides of their feet? As if they’re afraid
    to plant themselves?” Barbara Kingsolver, Animal Dreams, 1990

    “I asked a Burmese why women, after centuries of following their men, now walk
    ahead. He said there were many unexploded land mines since the war.” Robert Mueller
    “We were together. I forget the rest.” — Walt Whitman

    “Do anything, but let it produce joy.” — Walt Whitman (Leaves of Grass)

    “These are the days that must happen to you.” — Walt Whitman

    “A morning-glory at my window satisfies me more than the metaphysics of books.” Walt Whitman
    “And your very flesh shall be a great poem.” — Walt Whitman

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