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    JackPMiller
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    2020 Small School Prospects In The Senior Bowl.

    Kyle Dugger SS 6’2″ 220 Lenoir-Rhyne
    Adam Trautman TE 6’6″ 255 Dayton
    Ben Bartch C 6’6″ 306 St. Johns(MN)
    Antonio Gandy-Golden WR 6’4″ 216 Liberty
    Charlie Taumoepeau TE 6’3″ 245 Portland State
    Jeremy Chinn FS 6’3″ 212 Southern Illinois

    Small School Prospects I like, but should be able to get them late in the draft, to UDFAs.

    Dajour Nesbeth CB 6’1″ 195 Tennessee State
    Andrew Dickinson OG 6’3″ 312 Finlay(OH) College

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    Rams Head Coach Sean McVay, Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips, RB Todd Gurley II – – Dec. 5, 2019

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    Rams Head Coach Sean McVay

    (On updates regarding TE Gerald Everett and T Rob Havenstein)
    “They’re (TE Gerald Everett and T Rob Havenstein) in the same kind of status as they were. Still day-to-day and we’ll see how they’re feeling later on this week. Making good progress – whether that means they’re able to go or not, we haven’t determined that yet.”

    (On if there would be hesitation to put Havenstein in the game with how T Bobby Evans has played in his absence)
    “(T) Bobby (Evans) has done a really nice job and Rob’s put a lot of good tape on. He’s put a lot of really good film on display for the last couple years. When he’s ready to go, we’ll evaluate that deal. He’s done a great job mentoring Bobby in the meantime. I think that says a lot about just the type of guy he is and we know what a productive player he’s been for us.”

    (On if coaching changes from one segment of the season to the next)
    “I would say it’s an ongoing evolution of staying up to date with the constant changes that go on both with your team or with the opponent. Kind of just staying up to date with what goes on. Nothing really changes – I think the changes occur every single day. To be able to seamlessly handle those and have a consistency, process and rhythm that you want to be committed to while also not being so set in it that you can adjust and adapt. I’d say that’s probably the best way that we would look at that. The one thing that does adjust once you get into the later parts of the season – just with the way that the physicality of this game kind of takes a tole on guys as they start to accumulate the game reps, you want to be smarter about still getting all the work you need to prepare for a game. But, you do pull back a little bit physically in some of the early parts of the week.”

    (On the challenges that come with going against the speed and physicality in Seahawks Head Coach Pete Carroll’s defense)
    “I think you see that. The one thing that I think he’s (Seahawks Head Coach Pete Carroll) done such a great job of since he’s been there – and really going back to his time at ‘SC’ (University of Southern California) – there’s a clear-cut philosophy, there’s an identity that they want to embody. You can see it show up on the tape. I think that’s a big thing and you talked about it, it’s physicality, it’s speed, it’s all about the ball where they’re relentlessly pursuing it. You look at the amount of times that they’ve forced more fumbles than anybody in the league. They’ve done a great job – especially over the last few weeks – of taking the ball away. They’ve got a great leader in (LB) Bobby Wagner, they’ve added some guys that you’re certainly feeling a lot on the tape when you watch the impact that their D-line’s making. You add (S) Quandre Diggs on the backend and to accompany him with the two corners they have – (SS Bradley) McDougald’s a really good foortball player, (LB) K.J. Wright’s been doing his thing for a long time. They’re very, very difficult, sound. They play hard, they play physical, they play fast. I think those are all the things you see that show up on the tape.”

    (On the challenges in gameplanning against a Seahawks team that makes a lot of off-schedule plays)
    “I think, really, that’s been consistent since (Seahawks QB) Russell (Wilson) has been the quarterback. He does a great job of using his athleticism to buy time, but still remain a passer. A lot of those off-schedule plays too – now that you’re seeing – occur in the pocket. There’s a timing and rhythm that you want to operate with, but then certain things break down. He’s got such a good feel that if the protection is there or there’s nobody that got edge, he can just move and be able to keep his eyes down the field and be able to hitch in place. He’s got such a great spatial awareness that you see him – and then guys have a good feel for being able to work. Then, when he does break contain, that’s where you’re really thinking, ‘Man, there’s a chance for him to create big plays all the time.’ They’ve got the weapons to be able to do that with him running the show.”

    (On if he got any calls or texts regarding his comment about not being an idiot with RB Todd Gurley II because there was a lot of reactions to it)
    “A couple of my friends, just being able to like screenshot something, but I didn’t see on the internet.”

    (On if any other coaches texted him)
    “No. I think you try to learn from it, but if you saw it, I was saying …I don’t really think I’m an idiot most of the time. Do you think I’m an idiot? (laughs)”

    REPORTER: “In the Steelers game, maybe.”

    (On response)
    “Touché. I like that, all right. Hey, shots fired, I got that. That’s almost as good as her leaving the hair gel for me (laughs).”

    (On what the difference is when he has LB Clay Matthews in the lineup)
    “Just the impact that he (LB Clay Matthews) can make. This is a very versatile player for us. He can do a lot of different things. He has consistently done a great job of understanding how to affect the quarterback. He’s seen so many different things, too that he’s able to anticipate and knows what to expect. I think you’re just seeing a really high level of play from him since he’s been healthy, since he’s been able to go. Then you’ve missed him, but I thought it as a good reflection of the depth with somebody like (OLB) Samson (Ebukam) stepping up. Clay has done a great job for us.”

    (On if he feels like his defense is better equipped to handle the Seahawks now than it was before)
    “I think we expect to play better in some areas. We know what a great challenge it is, but I’ve got a lot of confidence in our defense. I’ve got a lot of confidence in the plan and our ability to be able to execute it, while also having a healthy respect for the opponent that we’re going against. We’ve got to be at our best. We’ve got to make sure that we come in with the same focus, concentration and urgency that we had going into that Arizona game. When your best players play their best, usually that ends up being a good thing for us.”

    (On when they played the Seahawks before and it came down to the last kick and how different both teams are now two months later)
    “You can’t say, because we didn’t. It’s hard to say. When you look at it, you always try to just reflect on, ‘All right, when you don’t get the results that you want, all right, what are we doing to try to make sure that our processes is in alignment?’ Even thinking back to last year, you have an appreciation for just what a fine line it is. It comes down to one possession, you end up making those plays. Both of our games against them last year come down to the last possession. We were fortunate enough to come out on the right end of that. First game that we played them this year, it goes their way. We’ve just got to do a great job controlling what we can. To say what would have happened had we made that, it didn’t. We’ve just got to be able to handle whatever it is that’s in front of us and kind of just be where our feet are planted.”

    ***

    Rams Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips

    (Opening Remarks)
    “Obviously, this offensive team we’re playing against is very sound. They can run the ball just as good as anybody, basically. We had some trouble a couple of weeks ago against the run. There’s a big challenge there. All kinds of accolades for (Seahawks QB) Russell Wilson. Probably the best off-schedule passer in the league. Once he gets out of the pocket, he throws it, and he throws it great – on the run, on the move, makes big plays there. You say, ‘Well you’ve got to keep him in the pocket.’ Well, he’s still going to get out. He’s a challenge that way. He’s a great player and obviously helped them win a lot of games. They’ve won a lot of close games that way.”

    (On Seahawks RB Chris Carson)
    “Obviously, they’ve got a really strong running game – partly because their offensive line is strong and powerful and does a great job. But, the running backs – (Seahawks RB Chris) Carson is having a great year – he’s a power runner, very power runner. He makes 2 or 3 yards extra and that’s why you’ve got to keep in front of him. Then, (RB Rashaad) Penny is also a really good back. Both of them are averaging well, obviously their team is averaging a whole lot of rushing. Again, it’s a big challenge, especially for us. We’ve got to do better against the run.”

    (On what his reaction was when S Taylor Rapp made his first-career interception and ran it back for a touchdown)
    “(S) Taylor Rapp, he made a great play. He was dropping in zone, saw the quarterback – broke. He did, obviously, what he was supposed to do. He made the play, he’s been making plays, certainly in the running-game. He’s improved throughout the year. Kind of a (S) John Johnson III type improvement, like we saw last year with him. I think Taylor is right along that same path. Certainly, he made a great play. Anytime you can score on defense, that gives you a chance to win.”

    (On what’s different with Seahawks QB Russell Wilson than the last three mobile quarterbacks played)
    “The difference in Russell Wilson, he’ll will run to make first-downs, certainly, but he runs around to make big plays in the passing game. The receivers do a great job, they do a great job of coming back to him and crossing the field. We talk about plaster, which means once he’s out of the pocket, you’ve got to find the nearest guy and get on him or he’ll complete it to him. He’ll throw it deep, he’ll throw it short, he’ll throw it crossing – whatever it is. He made one of the great throws I’ve seen against us in the first game. That one, he scrambled to his left and threw it, the (WR Tyler) Lockett, touchdown. We actually had really good coverage and he throws it running to his left – a dime – whatever they call it. It seemed like about a $20, $100.”

    (On if he thinks Wilson was aiming for Lockett on the touchdown play from the Week 5 matchup against the Seahawks)
    “He was throwing it to him, he’s that good.”

    (On if Wilson is playing better than the year the Seahawks won Super Bowl XLVIII)
    “I think he’s comfortable in their offense, certainly. They’ve added a big, speed wide receiver. I think he’s throwing some deep balls – and one on us. I’ve always thought he was a great player. He’s hard to beat. If there is two minutes left, that’s when he really is a problem. He will run then, to make the first downs on you, or he will throw it to make the first down on you. He’s tough to handle.”

    (On if the Seahawks execution and success this season something he has to prepare for separately outside of the regular gameplan)
    “You have to prepare for them – their two-minute offense, certainly. We actually stopped them in their four-minute offense last time. Like I said, he makes the right decisions, whether to run it and make the first down or throw it and make the first down and, he’s accurate. It will be a challenge, but we’re looking forward to it, we are looking forward to playing them. We know this is a big game for us and we’re going to treat it that way.”

    (On when he watches film on Wilson if he recognizes any weaknesses)
    “Weaknesses? No. He’s a Pro-Bowl quarterback. You don’t have many weaknesses if you’re a Pro-Bowl quarterback. Like I said, his decisions are so good, that’s the other thing. He makes a lot of good decisions. He throws the ball exceptionally well. I’m not sure he gets enough credit from that. He really throws from the pocket or out of the pocket, or on the move. He does that as well as anybody.”

    (On if his coaching changes in different segments of the season)
    “Some people put it in segments. I’ve never done that. It’s the fourth quarter, just like they do in college, it’s the fourth quarter. Certainly, it means a lot, but it’s one at a time. That’s what you can do something about. It’s the biggest game of the year. This is it, until the next one.”

    (On what’s the difference in the defense when LB Clay Matthews is on the field)
    “(LB) Clay’s (Matthews) is a very solid, outstanding player. What’s he got, 7.0 or 8.0 sacks already? And he missed three games. He’s just a good football player. He’s all we thought he would be, maybe a little better. He’s came in and done a great job for us.”

    ***

    Rams RB Todd Gurley II

    (On what he expects from the Seahawks on Sunday)
    “A good game. It’s always been a good game. Over the last couple of years, we’ve been able to tie (the season series) – usually go one (win) and one (loss). It’s always going to be a good game between us two. We know them well, they know us well. They always fight to the end.”

    (On what makes Seahawks LB Bobby Wagner an effective linebacker)
    “He’s (Seahawks LB Bobby Wagner) always on the field. Never comes off the field, he’s always staying healthy. I feel like that’s majority of the guys in the league. He’s just a great linebacker. He’s smart, strong and he just knows what’s going on, on the field and he can create turnovers. That’s one of his biggest things – he’s always going to be punching at the ball, raking at the ball. Also, (Seahawks LB) K.J. Wright as well. Those are two great linebackers. They’ve been playing with each other for quite a while, so they just do their job.”

    (On Rams Head Coach Sean McVay blaming himself for not giving Gurley II the ball more early in the season)
    “He said it, I didn’t (laughs). That’s all I got to say. I don’t have anything else to say.”

    (On if he would like to continue receiving as many carries as he has in recent games)
    “It doesn’t matter. Hit you with the same answer – it’s a team sport, man. Only one person gets the ball. We’ve got great running backs in (RB) Malcolm (Brown) and (RB) Darrell (Henderson Jr.) as well. Four great receivers and some good tight ends. (TE Tyler) Higbee had a great game last game. Whatever he (Rams Head Coach Sean McVay) calls, I’ll do my part and be ready.”

    (On how it’s been for him with a heavier workload in recent games)
    “It’s been fine. Obviously, what is it? Week 13, Week 14? Everyone’s kind of feeling the long season. Just got to do what you got to do to get your body right and your mind right for each Sunday.”

    (On My Cleats My Cause)
    “Something me and my best friend Jameon (Willis) from back home started up – making a difference every day, just trying to do right for the kids. Whether it’s inspiring, you know, just inspiring the youth. Doing kids camps, that’s one thing I’m real big on, whether it’s my camp or doing other camps, just trying to keep inspiring people. Not only my hometown – the city I play in – but then also places I’ve lived in, my friends area’s as well.”

    (On what his cause is)
    “The cause is Gurley M.A.D.E Foundation ‘Making a Difference Everyday.’ There’s no real specific cause. Right now, it’s just more of just sports camps. Hopefully, next year we can get some basketball camps at potentially Georgia and Duke. Just trying to do it all, not just limiting myself to football, but doing everything.”

    (On when it became a priority to be more than an athlete)
    “It’s kind of been one of those things I’ve always seen and always imitated others. Guys like, Michael Jordan, (Lakers F) Lebron James, (Former Laker) Kobe Bryant, (Portland Trailblazers F) Carmelo Anthony. Not event that, just NFL players. I’m not the only one doing stuff for my community, even regular people out here doing stuff for their communities. That’s just the way I was brought up, just to be able to just give back. I know people that don’t have nothing, but they still give back every day. Just having that mindset to help others because I didn’t get here on my own. It took a whole community, it took a whole village to help me get here. Why not try to inspire my teammates. It really started with my best friend Jameon from back home. He told me it’s time to really take the initiative and do my part, not just play football and relax and party in the offseason, but also just do the right thing.”

    (On what made them gravitate more towards sports camps specifically that help out the youth)
    “It’s just fun. It’s fun for the kids. It’s like a fun day. It doesn’t even have to be a camp. It could be like a barbeque. (There’s) so many different ways you can go into it. Just using my relationships that I have with other athletes, whether its football, basketball, baseball, soccer, hockey. Just trying to just give those kids the opportunity to be able to have the inspiration to look up to somebody. As I keep telling the kids each year, I’ve been in the league for five years, went to college for three. Like I said, less than 10 years ago, I was in these kids’ shoes. So, to be able to just do what I’m doing and I’m still learning myself, still figuring stuff out myself. Just trying to do the right thing, man. I was raised the right way and I’m trying to pass those things along to other people.”

    (On if he imagined being where he is today 10 years ago when he was in the kids’ shoes)
    “No, I don’t think anyone did. Obviously, we all had dreams and expectations, but I was always a person that just kind of just lived day-by-day. Wasn’t a follower, but I did what everyone else did. That was play sports, go to school and hang out. As life goes on, you see the bigger picture. It’s just more to life. I’ve done everything I’ve wanted to do, still doing stuff that I still want to do, but it’s just more of me helping others do what they want to do as well, too”

    (On if he’ll be watching the Georgia vs. LSU football game on Saturday)
    “Yeah, what time does the game start? 3:30? Yeah, I’m going to be there. LSU, they don’t want it. (laughs).”

    (On if he feels any extra pressure to win Sunday’s game in order to keep their playoff hopes alive)
    “No. It’s a divisional game. We’ve got them, San Fran (Francisco) and the Cardinals. Those are three important games and obviously we’ve got the Cowboys. I guess it’s just like last year we were trying to save ourselves to get to that No. 1 or No. 2 seed. Now we’re scratching our way in, but you just focus on the game on Sunday. Just go out there, give it our all and then just see what happens. It’s the same kind of clichés: sayings. Just control what we control. We can’t worry about the games we lost because those are in the past. We can just focus on what we can right now, and then just see what happens.”

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    I did not know opinions had a “value”. I mean aren’t they simply “opinions”.

    Remember, it’s the online right-wing hitman (rwh) who brought up the idea that opinions have “value” depending on who you are. The vid WV posted shoots that idea to pieces. RWH claims “the left” (or his imaginary version of it) discounts opinions if you’re not oppressed, which…is something no one on the left has ever said.

    But leaving intersectionality out of it, yes opinions can have value. That’s why we have the phrase “I value your opinion.” Some things can only BE opinions, and can’t be determined by facts, science, or law.

    So let’s say you wanted to eat out in Portland Maine, and you posted and said zn, where should I eat in Portland Maine. What I say in response to that can only be an opinion, but it’s a decently informed one. Imagine then adding, but remember zn your opinion of that does not matter any more than someone who has never been there.

    Opinions can matter, it depends.

    And sometimes they don’t count for much. Someone’s OPINION of climate change has far less standing than actual factual knowledge of what it is and what the science has said about it.

    Anyway. Everything I say here is factual and is backed by science, law, the bible, and some very accomplished psychics.

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    Video Shows Former Oregon Receiver Keanon Lowe Disarming, Hugging Suicidal Student

    https://deadspin.com/video-shows-former-oregon-receiver-keanon-lowe-disarmin-1839191304

    Former Oregon Ducks wide receiver Keanon Lowe was heralded as a hero back in May when it was reported that he brought down a would-be school shooter before anyone at a Portland high school could get hurt. Video of the incident has since been released because of a public records request from KOIN 6 in Portland. While the footage does not show Lowe tackling the student, as was reported at the time, it does show the former

    The footage also corroborates the story that Lowe—a football coach for Parkrose High School, where this all took place—told reporters in a press conference shortly after his heroics took place. His story fills in the blanks as to what happened in the classroom and behind the walls that the clip did not capture.

    After I’m in the classroom for 20 seconds, the door opens and I’m within arm’s length of the door, about three feet away from the door, and there’s a kid with a gun, a shotgun, as soon as that door opens. Pretty crazy situation, you know. In a fraction of a second, I analyzed everything really fast. I saw the look in his face, looked at his eyes, looked at the gun, realized it was a real gun and then my instincts just took over. I lunged for the gun, put two hands on the gun, and he had his two hands on the gun, and the students are running out of the classroom and screaming. I’m just making sure the barrel of the gun [wasn’t aimed at anyone].

    KOIN 6 had the rest of his remarks:

    “I think the universe works in amazing ways,” he said. “I think I’ve gone through stuff in my life that prepared me for that moment and I’m lucky and I’m happy that I was in that classroom for those kids and I was able to prevent that tragedy. I don’t know if ‘hero’ is the right word but the universe works in mysterious ways and I was meant to be in that classroom and I was meant to stop a tragedy.”

    After disarming 19-year-old Angel Granados Diaz, Lowe said they had a conversation.

    “I felt compassion for the kid, to be honest,” Lowe said. “I had a real-life conversation. Obviously, he broke down and I just wanted to let him know that I was there for him. I told him I was there to save him — I was there for a reason and that this is a life worth living.”

    According to a report from the shotgun-wielding student’s trial, the teenager did not intend on shooting anybody but himself on that day in May. In the end, no shots were fired because of Lowe’s actions. The student, meanwhile, was sentenced on Thursday to three years of probation and mental health treatment after pleading guilty to felony possession of a firearm in a public building and misdemeanor possession of a loaded firearm in public.

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    Disturbing’ texts between Oregon police and far-right group prompt investigation
    Texts between Joey Gibson, the leader of the far-right group Patriot Prayer, and Portland police Lt. Jeff Niiya have been criticized by officials in Oregon’s largest city.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/disturbing-texts-between-oregon-police-far-right-group-prompts-investigation-n972161?fbclid=IwAR3QahQO36JHoFycZ3l2xQRR1mymfUDt0k2eoXZ-E5r-Cz9seubGU0rxxA4

    After public backlash, the mayor of Portland, Oregon, is no longer asking the city’s police chief to lead an investigation into friendly text messages between a lieutenant and the leader of a far-right group that some officials say confirm “collusion” — a criticism later mocked by the group’s leader.

    Officials and activists also voiced concern about the texts and demanded that Mayor Ted Wheeler order an independent investigation — and not one headed by Portland Police Chief Danielle Outlaw as he first suggested. The mayor relented late Friday and said he will be working on how the new inquiry will take shape.

    “I will order an independent investigation to review the existence of bias in the actions of the [Portland Police Bureau] leading up to and during demonstrations involving alt-right and anti-fascist protesters,” he said in a statement, adding that he has “heard from the people of Portland” and will also work with Outlaw to implement training for police in identifying white supremacy.

    Wheeler’s concern over the texts, which he called “disturbing,” comes after a report Thursday in the Willamette Week that highlights the correspondence between Joey Gibson, the leader of Patriot Prayer, and Portland police Lt. Jeff Niiya, the commander of the department’s rapid response team.

    The pair shared messages in 2017 and 2018 that were joking at times, but also raise concerns that police give Patriot Prayer and members preferential treatment, even though they have been involved in violent clashes with antifascist protesters.

    Wheeler said Thursday that he was concerned because it was exactly those demonstrations led by Gibson that “have caused significant disruption and increased fear in our community.”

    The mayor also said the texts “appear to cross several boundaries” and “raise questions about whether warrants are being enforced consistently and what information is being shared with individuals who may be subject to arrest.”

    The Portland Police Bureau said Friday that Niiya has been removed from the rapid response team during the investigation and that officials would hold a community listening event next week.

    “It is imperative that we come together to hear people’s concerns and ideas,” Outlaw said in a statement.

    The release of the texts come a week after the city introduced a resolution condemning white supremacy and alt-right hate groups.

    Gibson’s Patriot Prayer, based in the Portland suburb of Vancouver, Washington, says it is not a white nationalist organization and believes in gun rights and defending the Second Amendment. Its rallies, however, have drawn interest from white supremacists and white nationalists, and has led to police using pepper spray and flash-bang grenades to break up the brawls with counterprotesters.

    The Portland police has been criticized for its use of force against counterprotesters.

    Gregory McKelvey, an organizer with the activist group Portland’s Resistance, was previously arrested by officers at a demonstration and said the department already gives the appearance of being against counterprotesters because they often face them when they line up, while putting their backs to the far-right groups.

    “I don’t think it would be beyond anybody’s imagination that police might want to have a friendly correspondence with right-wing organizations to collect information. However, it crosses a line when you’re tipping off those organizers to when new leftist organizations are being formed, to where leftist protesters are or how its members can avoid arrest,” McKelvey said. “I’ve attended these rallies and I’ve never been tipped off.”

    In one text exchange from December 2017, Niiya asked Gibson about one of his members, Tusitala Toese, who had been involved in fights at rallies and had a warrant out for his arrest on a disorderly conduct charge.

    Niiya told Gibson that officers ignored the warrant at a previous demonstration, but to make sure that Toese didn’t do anything at the next one “which may draw our attention,” according to the Willamette Week.

    “If he still has the warrant in the system (I don’t run you guys so I don’t personally know) the officers could arrest him,” Niiya wrote. “I don’t see a need to arrest on the warrant unless there is a reason.”

    Toese, however, was arrested during a protest in Portland’s downtown that same month when he struck a counterprotester, reported The Oregonian.

    In response to Niiya’s guidance, Portland police Lt. Tina Jones told the Willamette Week that it is “not uncommon for officers to provide guidance for someone to turn themselves in on a warrant if the subject is not present.”

    In another message, when Gibson told Niiya last year that he was planning to run for Congress representing the state of Washington, Niiya responded, “Your [sic] running for office?!! Good for you. County level?”

    Gibson ran for Senate, but lost in the Republican primary.

    James Ofsink, another organizer with Portland’s Resistance, said the texts between Niiya and Gibson, as well as the release of Niiya’s work emails related to Gibson, are a “real smoking gun” that exhibit favoritism.

    Emails sent by Niiya to other officers suggest they knew about his conversations with Gibson.

    “I think in Portland we need real tangible steps in citizen oversight and real accountability for police,” Ofsink said.

    Portland Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty said in a statement Thursday that “there are members of the Portland police force who work in collusion with right-wing extremists.”

    She, along with the Council on American-Islamic Relations’ Oregon chapter, were among those calling for an independent investigation.

    In a Facebook video late Thursday, Gibson denied his conversations with Niiya were a way for his group to get an upper hand during rallies and said officials in Portland were mischaracterizing the interaction.

    “When they see two people treating each other and talking like grown adults, like simple adults, they have a meltdown,” Gibson said. “And the mayor has a meltdown. He thinks it’s inappropriate for two men to talk to each other, to make sure to de-escalate, and to avoid conflict as much as possible.”

    He added that Niiya alerted him to the counterprotesters’ whereabouts in order to stay clear of clashes.

    Niiya, he added, was “trying to do everything he can because police are blamed whenever there’s conflict.”

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    Sometimes i like fresh tomato slices on my grilled cheese. Sometimes i like more than one kind of cheese on them.

    Promise me soup and grilled cheese for life, and i would probly vote for Trump.

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    What kinda soup. It matters.

    One of the advantages of living near Portland ME, besides short summers and having to use a snow blower to get out of the driveway several times a year, is the concentration of big time foodie culture in the area and the virtually endless list of good places to eat. Sometimes I look up the daily specials of a few places on line, and plan my route to work or on errands depending on who has what soup that day.

    I will break out the ole AK47 and use it to cut in line when a good place has Lentil soup that day.

    For the national security people who might still be monitoring this board, the AK47 bit was a joke. It’s a hyperbolic metaphor comically amping up the while idea of intensity of purpose. Have a nice day.

    #102191
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    The NBA Draft is on June 20th

    1st Round
    1. NO Pelicans – Zion Williamson PF Duke
    2. Memphis Grizzlies – Ja Morant PG Duke
    3. NY Knicks – RJ Barrett SF Duke
    4. NO Pelicans f/ Lakers – Darius Garland PG Vanderbilt
    5. Cleveland Cavaliers – DeAndre Hunter SF Virginia
    6. Phoenix Suns – Coby White PG/SG UNC
    7. Chicago Bulls – Sekou Doumbouya SF/PF France
    8. Atlanta Hawks – Cameron Reddish SG/SF Duke
    9. Washington Wizards – Jaxson Hayes PF/C Texas
    10. Atlanta Hawks f/ Mavs – Jarrett Culver SG Texas Tech
    11. Minnesota Timberwolves – Rui Hachimura SF/PF Gonzaga
    12. Charlotte Hornets – Goga Bitadze C Rep. of Georgia
    13. Miami Heat – Nassir Little SF UNC
    14. Boston Celtics f/Kings – Tyler Herro SG Kentucky
    15. Detroit Pistons – PJ Washington PF Kentucky
    16. Orlando Magic – Keldon Johnson SG/SF Kentucky
    17. Atlanta Hawks f/Nets – Bol Bol C Oregon
    18. Indiana Pacers – Kevin Porter SG USC
    19. SA Spurs – Brandon Clarke PF Gonzaga
    20. Boston Celtics f/ Clippers – Nicolas Claxton PF/C Georgia
    21. OKC Thunder- Nickeil Alexander-Walker
    22. Boston Celtics – Carsen Edwards PG Purdue
    23. Utah Jazz – Cameron Johnson SG/SF UNC
    24. Philadelphia 76ers – Romeo Langford SG Indiana
    25. Portland Trailblazers – Chuma Okeke SF/PF Auburn
    26. Cleveland Cavaliers f/Rockets – Luka Samanic PF Croatia
    27. Brooklyn Nets f/Nuggets – Bruno Fernando C Maryland
    28. GS Warriors – KZ Okpala SG/SF Stanford
    29. SA Spurs f/ Raptors – Ty Jerome PG Virginia
    30. Milwaukee Bucks – Romeo Langford SG Indiana

    2nd round
    31. Brooklyn Nets f/Knicks -Talen Horton-Tucker SG/SF Iowa State
    32. Phoenix Suns – Matisse Thybulle SG/SF Washington
    33. Philadelphia 76ers f/Cavs – Eric Paschall PF Villanova
    34. Philadelphia 76ers f/Bulls -Mfiondu Kabengele PF/C Florida State
    35. Atlanta Hawks – Jalen Lecque PG/SG NC State
    36. Charlotte Hornets f/Wizards – Dylan Windler SF Belmont
    37. Dallas Mavericks – Jordan Bone PG Tennessee
    38. Chicago Bulls f/Grizzlies – Deividas Sirvydis SF Lithuania
    39. NO Pelicans – Naz Reid C LSU
    40. Sacramento Kings f/Wolves – Quinndary Weatherspoon SG Mississippi State
    41. Atlanta Hawks f/Lakers – Louis King SF Oregon
    42. Philadelphia 76ers f/Kings – Daniel Gafford PF/C Arkansas
    43. Minnesota Timberwolves f/Heat – Tacko Fall C Central Florida
    44. Atlanta Hawks from Charlotte Hornets
    46. Orlando Magic f/Nets – Admiral Schofield SF Tennessee
    47. Brooklyn Nets f/Magic – Jaylen Nowell SG Washington
    48. LA Clippers – Moses Brown C UCLA
    49. SA Spurs – Yovel Zoosman SG/SF Isreal
    50. Indiana Pacers – Jontay Porter PF/C Missouri
    51. Boston Celtics – Darius Bazley SF Princeton HS.(OH)
    52. Charlotte Hornets f/Thunder – Jalen McDaniels SF/PF San Diego State
    53. Utah Jazz – Jaylen Hands PG UCLA
    54. Philadelphia 76ers – Cody Martin SF Nevada
    55. NY Knicks f/Rockets – Tremont Waters PG LSU
    56. LA Clippers f/Blazers – Kris Wilkes SF UCLA
    57. NO Pelicans f/Nuggets – Laurynas Birutis C Lithuania
    58. GS Warriors – Brian Bowen SG/SF Australia
    59. Toronto Raptors – Joshua Obiesie SF Germany
    60. Sacramento Kings f/Bucks – Amir Hinton SG Shaw

    #97710
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    I unfortunately have a cold.

    So whatever plans I THOUGHT I had have been lost. They will have to wait for the next Rams superbowl. Unless getting a cold when the Rams are in the superbowl turns out to be an annual tradition.

    So for me? Chicken noodle soup. And lots of it too. Fortunately, as you know the Portland area does not lack for eateries, and a lot of the nearby places like making soup. So I got a bunch at one place. In fact, the place where I got it calls their chicken soup “the flu chaser.” It’s good. I am content.

    Let the game begin.

    #92538
    JackPMiller
    Participant

    http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/31584/how-paul-allen-saved-the-seahawks-from-leaving-seattle

    How Paul Allen saved the Seahawks from leaving Seattle

    RENTON, Wash. — Remembering Paul Allen a day after his passing, Pete Carroll said never “in a million years” would he have left USC had it not been for the late Seattle Seahawks owner. Carroll was referring to the vision and the spirit that Allen expressed while making a convincing sales pitch, the likes of which Carroll hadn’t heard from any other NFL owner.

    If not for what Allen did more than a decade before Carroll arrived in 2010, though, there likely wouldn’t have been an NFL team to come to in Seattle.

    The saga of the team’s near departure in the mid-1990s is worth revisiting in the wake of Allen’s death on Monday at age 65 due to complications from non-Hodgkin lymphoma. Because to understand Allen’s legacy as the Seahawks’ owner, it’s necessary to understand how close Seattle came to losing the team before he stepped in.

    The past eight seasons of Seahawks football have seen so many monumental developments: Carroll leading the franchise to its only Super Bowl championship, Russell Wilson becoming a megastar on and off the field, the Legion of Boom becoming one of the greatest secondaries the league has ever seen, Marshawn Lynch becoming Beast Mode. None of them would have happened in Seattle — or perhaps at all — had Allen not saved the team from leaving when no one else would.

    One foot in Southern California

    Steve Raible, an original Seahawk and the team’s longtime radio broadcaster, remembers the call he got one day during the 1996 offseason. It was from one of the Seahawks’ assistant coaches under Dennis Erickson, who was telling Raible that he might want to get to the team’s Kirkland, Washington, headquarters to see what was happening.

    “‘They’re backing up moving vans to the building. We’re outta here. We’re moving,'” Raible recalled hearing.

    The destination was Anaheim, California. Ken Behring, a California real estate developer who bought the team in 1988 and was never embraced in Seattle, announced in February 1996 that he was moving the team south. His stated reason was an inability to secure funding for a new stadium or improvements to the crumbling Kingdome.

    So the organization packed up equipment, headed south and set up shop at the facility the Rams had vacated when they left for St. Louis a year earlier. The Seahawks even held a few workouts there before returning to Seattle amid threats of lawsuits from the city and hefty fines from the NFL.

    But in the absence of someone stepping forward to buy the team from Behring, the feeling was that those legal actions were merely delaying the inevitable.

    As detailed in this 2013 Seattle Times story, Allen had been quietly and tepidly discussing the possibility with local officials. He was fearful that he would be used as leverage for Behring to secure a sweeter deal in California. Plus, Allen — who had owned the NBA’s Portland Trail Blazers since 1988 — was a basketball fan first. Football wasn’t his biggest sporting passion. He was interested but hesitant.

    He also was the only person with both an interest in buying the Seahawks and deep enough pockets to make it happen.

    “Paul was really the only alternative,” Raible said. “That’s where they focused their efforts, the group here. Paul was pretty open to it for one simple reason. He believed it was good for the community. He believed it was something that should be done to keep the team here in the community.”

    The make-or-break vote

    In describing the support the Seahawks received from fans at London’s Wembley Stadium during their win over the Raiders last week, Carroll said it didn’t just feel like a home game. It practically was one.

    “All you had to do was go to London to see the extent to which (a) the 12s travel and (b) that the 12s are literally spread across the globe,” Raible said. “We had fans with Seahawks jerseys and clothing on from Spain to Sweden to Germany and, of course, Great Britain and so many that came from here.

    “That certainly was not the case then.”

    By “then,” he meant during the 1996 and ’97 seasons, when the Seahawks’ future in Seattle was hanging in the balance. They were mired in mediocrity, cycling through coaches and highly drafted quarterbacks while finishing above .500 only once between 1989 and 1997. It wasn’t anything close to a sure thing that the Seahawks would remain in Seattle when their fate there was effectively left up to a statewide vote.

    Allen had agreed to an option to buy the team on the condition that voters pass a referendum to foot the majority of the bill for a new stadium, which would eventually become CenturyLink Field. Taxpayers would pay $300 million, while Allen would cover the remaining $130 million plus cost overruns.

    “We knew that it was going to be difficult,” Raible said of the vote. “And very much as the state is today, it’s two different states. [With] Eastern Washington and so many of those folks, it was hard to convince them that they would be getting something from a building built on the west side of the state. … They were not of the mind of, ‘OK, let’s build some more rich guys another stadium,’ regardless of the fact that the vast majority of the taxes were coming from visitors who were renting cars and getting hotel rooms. Still, it was just that sense of government making something happen for sports owners. So we knew it was going to be dicey at best, and it was a very close vote.”

    The early returns on election night were discouraging before a late swing allowed Referendum 48 to pass with 51 percent of the vote.

    ‘It meant everything to him’

    It hardly needs to be stated that Allen’s legacy in Seattle goes far beyond saving the Seahawks. The Microsoft co-founder gave away what Forbes estimated to be more than $2 billion of his fortune. The various charitable causes ranged from brain science to wildlife conservation to the Ebola crisis in Africa.

    “Look at what he’s done, and look at all of the extraordinary, amazing places he’s taken us to because he could and because it was there to be challenged,” Carroll said. “Whether it’s in space or whether it’s under the ocean or whether it’s in the farthest reaches of the globe in chasing diseases and freeing animals and saving elephants and all the amazing things that he stood for, it’s just being around an amazing individual like that, that had that kind of vision.”

    It was Allen’s affinity for Jimi Hendrix and rock music that led him to found what is now called the Museum of Pop Culture in Seattle.

    It also led Allen to the stage at the team’s victory party following Super Bowl XLVIII. Asked his favorite memory of Allen, Carroll recalled him wailing on his guitar as the Seahawks celebrated their first and only championship in franchise history.

    “He was hittin’ in,” Carroll said with a smile. “He thought he was Eddie Vedder or something up there. He was going. But I think that was the great moment that we got to share, that he got to have. Because you can have all the money in the world, but it’s really hard to have that world championship. It meant everything to him. To be able to share that with him was amazing.”

    It was a celebration that, like so many other moments in Seahawks history, never would have happened without Allen.

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    They aren’t going ANYWHERE without financial help, and Los Angeles – the 2nd largest city in the country – couldn’t get a football stadium together anywhere in the region going back 35 years. The only reason there is a stadium in LA is a billionaire bought all the property himself, and built the stadium himself. Spanos is just not a member of that club, and nowhere in the LA area is going to come through NOW when there’s a big fucking palace in Inglewood that the Chargers can play in for $1 a year, especially since the Chargers can’t draw 20,000 fans a game without help from fans of other teams. It just does not pencil out for anybody. No way is Anaheim going to house the Chargers.

    I think Ag is right. St. Louis isn’t going to pony up a dowry to attract another fickle bride. The NFL would have to finance that, and that isn’t a business move. So…no.

    Mexico City is an intriguing possibility for a lot of reasons, but may have some obstacles that make it less desirable. I imagine the money is there. And I imagine there would be some significant desire in Mexico, but…I have never heard a peep about any kind of proposal at all. I mean…nothing.

    I don’t know, but I suspect Portland and San Antonio simply aren’t big enough to join the NFL.

    My guess is that Spanos gets bought out under pressure eventually. That they just ultimately find that they can’t meet the ante at the Big Boy table anymore, and have to fold.

    I think one thing is for sure. As long as the Rams’ Glory Run continues, the Chargers are going to live in the shade, and LA is a lousy place to live without a tan.

    JackPMiller
    Participant

    Now…whether something else can be worked out or not, I don’t know. I haven’t really read about the politics in San Diego, but what other choice is there? I mean…one would think the Chargers would eventually catch on in LA, especially if they won.

    The other choices outside of San Diego, the Cargers have is Mexico City which I have talked about, and Mexico loves the NFL, another is over in England, where the NFL would love to put an NFL franchise, lets not forget, but probably won’t happen, still these names will be considered though, Anaheim, St. Louis, Portland(Oregon), and San Antonio.

    #90341
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    #90313
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    Participant

    This past week turned out to be a great beach week up in Phippsburg, ME. Lots of sun, and the water was relatively warm (62 F on Friday).

    It was nice to do barely anything for a week. The kids still love to go, but at 22 and 19, I was afraid they would outgrow it. When my wife said maybe just the two of us would keep going, my daughter said, “No way! We’re coming too.”

    We did our yearly trip in to Bath to go to Reny’s for back to school stuff and Beale St BBQ for dinner.

    We also visited my sister in Portland on Thursday and got the three hour tour of the city. She took us to the East Prom, where we walked down by the water and saw a narrow gauge train. We ate oysters at The Spot on Washington Ave. We went over to South Portland and then to Cape Elizabeth and went to Fort Williams Park (cool lighthouse). Then we drove down by the waterfront and went to King of the Roll on Congress St for dinner.

    Very nice city from what I saw. My daughter, who is living in Boston and is thinking about maybe Nursing School (after she gets her Masters in Public Health) liked it very much, especially when my sister told her that her daughter went to Nursing school in Portland.

    All in all a good time

    #88240
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    Rams sign receiver Brandin Cooks to 5-year contract extension

    RICH HAMMOND

    link: https://www.dailynews.com/2018/07/17/rams-sign-receiver-brandin-cooks-to-5-year-contract-extension/

    Brandin Cooks made two major commitments this month, one with a ring and one with a pen.

    Cooks got married and then took the Rams, for richer and certainly not for poorer. Cooks, one of the NFL’s speediest receivers and a consistent 1,000-yard producer, signed a five-year contract extension on Tuesday, a deal worth approximately $80 million that will expire after the 2023 season.

    That’s a major move, given Cooks has yet to play a down for the Rams. They acquired him from New England in April for first- and sixth-round draft picks. Cooks had been set to play this season under the fifth-year option of his rookie contract and could have become an unrestricted free agent next March.

    There’s mutual affection. The Rams believe Cooks can be the hinge to their offense as a high-volume, deep-ball threat, and Cooks said he instantly felt comfortable with his new surroundings.

    “Even before I got here, you saw something special going on with this team,” Cooks said in a conference call, “with the coach and a great owner and the teammates that I’m involved with now. It’s a young culture that is very energetic and has something going on. When I got here, it was all just about buying into that culture. I think that feeling was kind of generated right away when I got into the building.”

    The No. 20 overall pick of the 2014 draft by New Orleans, Cooks had been set to make approximately $8.5 million this season, but a small portion of that money now will be spread to future years. As part of the extension, Cooks received $20.5 million in guaranteed money and his average salary will be approximately $16 million per season.

    Cooks, who turns 25 in September, should be an important component of the Rams’ offense this season. He has totaled more than 1,000 yards in each of his past three seasons and also has 27 touchdowns in 58 regular-season games.

    “Brandin Cooks has shown himself to be a class act on and off the field since the first day he joined our team,” Rams coach Sean McVay said in a statement provided by the team. “He’s a proven professional in this league and signing him to a long-term contract was always our goal.”

    Cooks is expected to be a prime target for quarterback Jared Goff as part of a Rams offense that scored the second-most points in the NFL last season, and Cooks could add a new dimension.

    In 2017, the Rams spread around the ball with amazing evenness. Running back Todd Gurley led the team in receptions with 64, followed by Cooper Kupp (62), Robert Woods (56) and Sammy Watkins (39).

    The Rams continue to value that balance but believe they have something special in Cooks, who has been a 1,000-yard receiver in each of his three full NFL seasons, after being a part-time player as rookie due to injury.

    In essence, the Rams hope Cooks fulfills the promise that Watkins seemed to hold a year ago,

    Last August, the Rams traded a second-round pick and cornerback E.J. Gaines for Watkins, whom they believed would be a highly productive outside receiver. Watkins struggled to find a place in the Rams’ offense and totaled only 593 yards but did thrive in the red zone, with eight touchdowns.

    The Rams hope that Cooks will be more consistent than Watkins, be productive on his own and also open up space on the field for his fellow receivers and Gurley.

    The only issue about Cooks is that, at age 24, he already is with his third NFL team. New Orleans traded him after his third season, and after some strife about how many times Cooks was targeted. New England gave up a first-round pick to get Cooks for one season, then flipped him to the Rams rather than sign him to a long-term extension.

    Thus far, the new relationship is thriving. McVay raved about Cooks during the Rams’ offseason program, and General Manager Les Snead said in April that he would be pleased “if my son could grow up to be half as respected as” Cooks.

    Cooks said his quick comfort level with the Rams made it easy for him to agree to a new contract.

    “I just wanted to come in and learn the culture and buy into that and let everything else take care of itself,” Cooks said. “Once they brought (an extension) up, that’s when we got involved, but at the end of the day, it was all about coming in and meeting the new coach, meeting the new guys and coming together as one and showing them that I’m here to help them win and be the best teammate I can be.”

    Reaching a new deal with Cooks brings multiple benefits to the Rams, who not only have a No. 1 receiver locked up through his prime years but also have increased clarity about their salary-cap future. The Rams still need to sign star defensive lineman Aaron Donald to a new contract, and now they have a better idea of how much they could afford to pay Donald over the next few seasons.

    Also, Cooks’ future is secure, both professionally and personally. He signed his new contract just weeks after he married his fiancee, Bri, in Portland, near the end of a busy offseason.

    “The highlight was marrying my best friend,” Cooks said. “It’s been an amazing month, a blessing.”

    #87430
    JackPMiller
    Participant

    I Have to do it if there were no trades. Trades are hard to predict where they will be. So this is if there will be none. The Draft is this Thursday for anyone interested.

    1st Round

    1. Phoenix Suns – DeAndre Ayton 7’0” 260 C Arizona
    2. Sacramento Kings – Luka Doncic 6’8” 215 SG/SF Slovenia
    3. Atlanta Hawks – Mo Bamba 7’1” 230 C Texas
    4. Memphis Grizzlies – Marvin Bagley 6’11” 240 PF Duke
    5. Dallas Mavericks – Jaren Jackson 6’11” 240 PF Michigan St.
    6. Orlando Magic – Trae Young 6’3” 188 PG Oklahoma
    7. Chicago Bulls – Michael Porter 6’7” 205 SF Missouri
    8. Cleveland Cavaliers f/Nets – Mikal Bridges 6’7” SG/SF Villanova
    9. NY Knicks – Collin Sexton 6’2” 182 PG Alabama
    10. Philadelphia 76ers – Wendell Carter 6’10” 250 PF/C Duke
    11. Charlotte Hornets – Miles Brides 6’7” 225 SF Michigan St.
    12. LA Clippers – Lonnie Walker 6’5” 200 SG Miami (FL)
    13. LA Clippers f/Pistons – Mitchell Robinson 7’1” 227 C Chalmette H.S. (Louisiana)
    14. Denver Nuggets – Kevin Knox 6’9” 218 PF Kentucky
    15. Washington Wizards – Robert Williams 6’10” 255 PF/C Texas A&M
    16. Phoenix Suns f/Heat – Zhaire Smith 6’4” 208 SG Texas Tech
    17. Milwaukee Bucks – Dzanan Musa 6’9” 180 SG/SF Bosnia
    18. San Antonio Spurs – Donte Divicenzo 6’5” 206” SG Villanova
    19. Atlanta Hawks f/Timberwolves – Chandler Huchinson 6’7” 197 SF Boise St.
    20. Minnesota Timberwolves f/Thunder – Khyri Thomas 6’4” 203 SG Chreighton
    21. Utah Jazz – Keita Bates Diop 6’9” 219 PF Ohio St.
    22. Chicago Bulls f/Pelicans – Brandon McCoy 7’1” 255 C UNLV
    23. Indiana Pacers – Aaron Holiday 6’1” 187 PG UCLA
    24. Portland Trailblazers – Omari Spellman 6’10” 245 PF Villanova
    25. LA Lakers f/ Cavaliers – Mortiz Wagner 6’11” PF/C Michigan
    26. Philadelphia 76ers – Grayson Allen 6’5” 200 SG Duke
    27. Boston Celtics – Jacob Evans III 6’6” 208 SF Cincinnati
    28. Golden State Warriors – Landry Shamet 6’6” 192 PG/SG Wichita St.
    29. Brooklyn Nets f/Raptors – Jalen Brunson 6’2” 198 PG Villanova
    30. Atlanta Hawks f/Rockets – Jevon Carter 6/2 195 PG West Virginia

    2nd Round

    31. Phoenix Suns – Devonte Graham 6’2” 189 PG Kansas
    32. Memphis Grizzlies – Hamilton Diallo 6’7” 201 SF Kentucky
    33. Atlanta Hawks – Shake Milton 6’6” 209 PG SMU
    34. Dallas Mavericks – Bruce Brown 6’5 195 Miami (FL)
    35. Orlando Magic – Chimezie Metu 6’10” 225 PF USC
    36. Sacramento Kings – Troy Brown 6’7” 208 SG Oregon
    37. NY Knicks f/ Bulls – Theo Pinson 6’7” 211 SF UNC
    38. Philadelphia 76ers f/Nets – Rodions Kurucs 6’9” 207 SF Latvia
    39. Philadelphia 76ers f/Knicks – Josh Okogie 6’5” 201 SG Georgia Tech
    40. Brooklyn Nets f/Lakers –Kevin Hervy 6’7” 210 SF Texas-Arlington
    41. Orlando Magic f/Hornets – Jerome Robinson 6’5” 183 PG Boston College
    42. Detroit Pistons – Elie Okobo 6’3” 185 PG France
    43. Denver Nuggets f/Clippers – Melvin Fraizer 6’7” 208 Tulane
    44. Washington Wizards – Gary Trent 6’6” 213 SG/SF Duke
    45. Brooklyn Nets f/Bucks – Isaac Bonga 6/10” 186 SF Germany
    46. Houston Rockets f/ Heat – Alize Johnson 6’10” 207 SF Southern Mississippi
    47. LA Lakers f/Nuggets – Malik Newman 6’4” 180 PG/SG Kansas
    48. Minnesota Timberwolves – D.J. Hogg 6’8” 218 PF Texas A&M
    49. San Antonio Spurs – Issuf Sanon 6’5” 200 PG Ukraine
    50. Indiana Pacers – Bonzie Colson 6’6” 225” SF Notre Dame
    51. New Orleans Pelicans – Tony Carr 6’4” 208 PG Penn State
    52. Utah Jazz – Ray Spalding 6’10” 220 PF Louisville
    53. Oklahoma City Thunder – Devon Hall 6’5” 211 PG Virginia
    54. Dallas Mavericks f/Trailblazers – Tryggvi Hlinason 7’1” 256 C Iceland
    55. Charlotte Hornets f/Cavaliers – Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk 6’8” 218 SF Kansas
    56. Philadelphia 76ers – Allonzo Trier 6’5” 201 SG Arizona
    57. Oklahoma City Thunder f/Celtics – Jarrod Vanderbilt 6’8” 221” PF Kentucky
    58. Denver Nuggets f/Warriors – Kostas Antetokunmpo 6’11” 205 SF Dayton
    59. Phoenix Suns f/Raptors – Billy Preston 6’11” 230 PF Kansas
    60. Philadelphia 76ers f/Rockets – Arnoldas Kulboka 6’9” 210 SF Lithuania

    #86916
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    Origins of the Opioid Epidemic: Purdue Pharma Knew of OxyContin Abuse in 1996 But Covered It Up

    https://www.democracynow.org/2018/6/1/origins_of_the_opioid_epidemic_purdue

    An explosive New York Times report has revealed that manufacturers of the drug OxyContin knew it was highly addictive as early as 1996, the first year after the drug hit the market. The Times published a confidential Justice Department report this week showing that Purdue Pharma executives were told OxyContin was being crushed and snorted for its powerful narcotic, but still promoted it as less addictive than other opioid painkillers. This report is especially damning because Purdue executives have testified before Congress that they were unaware of the drug’s growing abuse until years after it was on the market. Today, drug overdoses are the leading cause of death for Americans under age 50. While President Trump claimed Tuesday that numbers relating to opioid addiction are “way down,” the latest statistics show there was an increase of opioid-related deaths and overdoses during Trump’s first year in office. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, drug overdose deaths involving opioids rose to about 46,000 for the 12-month period that ended October 2017, up about 15 percent from October 2016. The epidemic has been so widespread that life expectancy is falling in the United States for the first time in 50 years. We speak with Barry Meier, the reporter who broke this story for the Times, headlined “Origins of an Epidemic: Purdue Pharma Knew Its Opioids Were Widely Abused.” Meier was a reporter at The New York Times for nearly three decades and was the first journalist to shed a national spotlight on the abuse of OxyContin. His book “Pain Killer: An Empire of Deceit and the Origin of America’s Opioid Epidemic” was published this week in an updated and expanded edition.

    Transcript

    This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

    AMY GOODMAN: Today we spend the hour looking at the ongoing opioid epidemic and how it spread across the United States. Drug overdoses are now the leading cause of death for Americans under the age of 50. But during a speech on Tuesday, President Trump claimed “the numbers are way down.” He spoke in Nashville, Tennessee.

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: We got $6 billion for opioid and getting rid of that scourge that’s taking over our country. And the numbers are way down. We’re getting the word out. Bad, bad stuff. You go to the hospital. You have a broken arm. You come out. You’re a drug addict with this crap. It’s way down. We’re doing a good job with it. But we got $6 billion to help us with opioid.
    AMY GOODMAN: In fact, the latest statistics show there was an increase of opioid-related deaths and overdoses during Trump’s first year in office. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, drug overdose deaths involving opioids rose to about 46,000 for the 12-month period that ended October 2017, up about 15 percent from October 2016. The epidemic has been so widespread that life expectancy is falling in the United States for the first time in 50 years.

    Meanwhile, the White House says it’s about to launch a series of public service announcements next week on opioid dangers, aimed at young people. The ads were developed with Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s point person on opioids.

    This comes as The New York Times published a confidential Justice Department report this week that found manufacturers of the drug OxyContin had access to information showing it was addictive as early as 1996, the first year after the drug hit the market. Purdue Pharma executives were told OxyContin was being crushed and snorted for its powerful narcotic, but still promoted it as less addictive than other opioid painkillers. This report is especially damning because Purdue executives have testified before Congress that they were unaware of the drug’s growing abuse until years after it was on the market.

    Well, for more, we’re joined by Barry Meier, the reporter who broke this story for The New York Times, which is headlined “Origins of an Epidemic: Purdue Pharma Knew Its Opioids Were Widely Abused.” Barry Meier was a reporter at The New York Times for nearly 30 years, the first journalist to shed a national spotlight on the abuse of OxyContin. His book Pain Killer: An Empire of Deceit and the Origin of America’s Opioid Epidemic was published this week in an updated and expanded edition. He’s won the Pulitzer Prize and two George Polk Awards for his past reporting on the intersection of business, medicine and public health.

    Barry Meier, welcome to Democracy Now!

    BARRY MEIER: Thank you, Amy. A pleasure.

    AMY GOODMAN: It’s great to have you with us. Well, talk about this latest Justice document that you just got a hold of.

    BARRY MEIER: Right. So, the basic outlines are this. As you noted, Purdue Pharma has claimed that it first became aware of OxyContin’s growing abuse in early 2000. That was about four years after its introduction. In fact, what this document showed is that the company had extensive information about OxyContin’s abuse in 1997, 1998, 1999.

    AMY GOODMAN: Twenty years ago.

    BARRY MEIER: Yes, and concealed that information, didn’t tell the FDA, didn’t tell doctors, didn’t tell patients. And this was a very damning report. I mean, the crimes were so significant that the prosecutors, who spent four years investigating the company, recommended that three top executives of Purdue Pharma be indicted on a—for a series of felony crimes, like conspiracy to defraud the United States, false statements and things of that nature. Unfortunately, their efforts were blocked by top administration officials within the Justice Department.

    AMY GOODMAN: So, explain what actually took place.

    BARRY MEIER: What took place is the following. Purdue Pharma was given permission to market OxyContin as less prone to abuse and addiction than competing narcotics. I mean, this sort of was like a gift—

    AMY GOODMAN: Like drugs like Vicodin and others.

    BARRY MEIER: Yes, exactly. It was a gift from the FDA. They took that gift, and they ran with it. They told doctors not only that it might be less prone to abuse and addiction, but that it would be less prone to abuse and addiction. In 2007, they admitted, basically, lying to doctors, lying to patients, by misrepresenting what they had been allowed to say.

    What we didn’t know was that during the course of the investigation that led to that confession, the federal government had also uncovered information to show that not only had they mismarketed the drug, they were aware, almost from the beginning, that people were abusing OxyContin, significantly abusing OxyContin, and they concealed that information. Had they sent a warning about that to the public, OxyContin would have never become a billion-dollar drug, and thousands of peoples of lives—thousands of lives wouldn’t have been affected by it.

    AMY GOODMAN: We’re going to talk about the origins of OxyContin, the Sackler family. We’re going to talk about how this drug company grew. But right now, your book came out like over 15 years ago, Pain Killer.

    BARRY MEIER: Right.

    AMY GOODMAN: That’s before the company was indicted and the corporate officials were indicted. Talk about Rudolph Giuliani—now once again in the headlines because he is Trump’s attorney—his role in the rise of OxyContin, in preventing a serious prosecution of this company.

    BARRY MEIER: Well, Rudolph Giuliani was hired in 2002. A lot of the reporting I did for the Times in 2001 was aimed at the overaggressive marketing of OxyContin by Purdue Pharma, as well as, you know, the growing reports, public reports, about the drug’s abuse. They then came under scrutiny by the FDA, by the DEA, and they felt that they needed a public defender—a fixer, if you will. The person they brought in to do that was Rudolph Giuliani. And so he went in, with his reputation as a former prosecutor, mayor and so forth, and began—

    AMY GOODMAN: It was right—I mean, you’re talking about right after the 2001 September 11th attacks, when he was called “America’s Mayor.”

    BARRY MEIER: Exactly. And sort of he took that reputation, and he sold it to corporations. And one of the corporations he sold it to was Purdue Pharma. And so, he became their sort of front man, if you will, their fixer, went to meet with DEA officials, with other officials, and basically spouted the company’s line. I mean, I have no idea what Rudy knew about what was in the company’s files, whether he was privy to the information that prosecutors later discovered. But he became, essentially, the person who tried to smooth things over with government officials.

    AMY GOODMAN: And was particularly powerful because he was a cancer survivor himself—

    BARRY MEIER: Absolutely.

    AMY GOODMAN: —and spoke about what it means to reduce pain.

    BARRY MEIER: Exactly. And, you know, he made a very compelling argument. I mean, this drug has valuable uses. It’s needed in certain situations. But, you know, what Purdue had done was to basically market this drug as a cure-all for all kinds of pain. And with the vast availability of the drug, it poured out onto the streets, and that led to this wave of abuse and addiction.

    AMY GOODMAN: So, who were the officials in Washington, the political appointees in the Justice Department, who intervened? And this also goes to the whole story of West Virginia and a really crusading prosecutor who took this case on.

    BARRY MEIER: Right. So, basically, there were people at the very—at the senior levels of the Criminal Division. Alice Fisher was then the head of the Criminal Division.

    AMY GOODMAN: This is under George W. Bush.

    BARRY MEIER: Correct. And Alberto Gonzales was the head—was the—

    AMY GOODMAN: Attorney general.

    BARRY MEIER: —attorney general at that time. So, essentially, what happened was, in September of 2006, this very small group of prosecutors, as you noted, in far western Virginia, forwarded a report, a confidential report, to the Justice Department recommending that serious felony indictments be brought against the executives of Purdue. That report contained extensive exhibits, emails, records, that they planned to present to a grand jury to support the call for their indictments. It was backed by the local U.S. attorney there, and man by the name of John Brownlee. And it was backed, in fact, by mid-level officials within Justice Department headquarters.

    But on October 11, 2006, two weeks before these prosecutors were scheduled to go before a grand jury and seek these indictments, there was an 11th hour meeting at the Justice Department. Purdue brought in its high-powered legal defense team, met with top Justice Department officials, like Alice Fisher. And after that meeting, there was a chill on the case. And basically, people like John Brownlee were told, “We are not going to give you the resources to support this prosecution. You’re on your own, if you want to do it.” And Brownlee had no resources. He had this small group of people who had spent four years, you know, 24 hours a day, investigating this company. They were facing a company of unlimited financial and legal firepower. And they really had no choice but to settle the case at that point.

    AMY GOODMAN: I mean, the story of West Virginia is astounding. As you write in your New York Times piece, “Starting in 2007, the year of the settlement, distributors of prescription drugs sent enough pain pills to West Virginia over a five-year period to supply every man, woman and child … with 433 of them.” This is according to a report in the Charleston Gazette-Mail. And we’re going to talk about West Virginia as ground zero and exactly what happened to these communities, with Barry Meier, author of Pain Killer: An Empire of Deceit and the Origin of America’s Opioid Epidemic. It’s just out this week. Stay with us.

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    AMY GOODMAN: “Puppet Charm” by Two Ton Boa, here on Democracy Now! I’m Amy Goodman. Our guest for the hour is Barry Meier, the Pulitzer Prize-winning former New York Times journalist, whose book is out again. Well, it’s expanded, it’s updated. But this is particularly relevant. The book is called Pain Killer: An Empire of Deceit and the Origin of America’s Opioid Epidemic. It came out in 2003. Fifteen years, what a difference it makes in this country. How many deaths are we talking about? I mean, you have this incredible description of the death toll, writing, “In 2016, 64,000 Americans died from drug overdoses. That number equals the population of cities such as Portland, Maine; Lynchburg, Virginia; and Santa Fe, New Mexico. It was as if, in one year, a plague had entered one of these towns and killed every single inhabitant.”

    BARRY MEIER: You know, we’re in the midst of the greatest public health disaster of the 21st century. It started out with the drug like OxyContin, and it has morphed, since then, into a kind of hydra-headed beast. On the one hand, you have the misuse and abuse of prescription drugs. And on the other hand, you have this growing death toll from counterfeit versions of drugs like fentanyl. So we’re in this very, very complicated situation. And, you know, the kind of policies that the government is now proposing may not get us out of it. I mean, we’re going to need a real extreme effort to get out of it.

    AMY GOODMAN: We’re talking about, in 20 years, 250,000 people have died.

    BARRY MEIER: That’s just from prescription painkillers alone. That’s from legal drugs. That’s from drugs that companies are allowed to produce, sell legally, and that are prescribed by doctors. And that alone is a stunning, startling figure.

    AMY GOODMAN: So, I want to go to an ad from Purdue Pharma. This is from, oh, 1998, the ad to market OxyContin. It features Dr. Alan Spanos of North Carolina.

    DR. ALAN SPANOS: There’s no question that our best, strongest pain medicines are the opioids. But these are the same drugs that have a reputation of causing addiction and other terrible things. Now, in fact, the rate of addiction amongst pain patients who are treated by doctors is much less than 1 percent. They don’t wear out. They go on working. They do not have serious medical side effects. And so, these drugs, which, I repeat, are our best, strongest pain medications, should be used much more than they are for patients in pain.
    AMY GOODMAN: So, that is an ad put out by Purdue Pharma, the maker of OxyContin. Barry Meier?

    BARRY MEIER: Well, you know, there was—in the late 1990s, there was a movement to promote—you know, treat pain much more aggressively than it had been in the past. A lot of that movement was funded by Purdue Pharma, people like Dr. Alan Spanos. And there were these tropes, if you will, that the addiction rate is less than 1 percent. It was a total lie. There was no basis for that figure. But it was repeated, repeated, repeated, and it sort of got ingrained into the medical culture. And as a result of that, doctors prescribed more and more of these drugs, you know, in good belief.

    AMY GOODMAN: The guy he was talking about?

    BARRY MEIER: Dr. Spanos. In fact, that video—they made another video, I believe, with Dr. Spanos that involved a patient. And that patient wasn’t even on OxyContin. He was on a totally ’nother drug, it came out. So, I mean, it was this massive public relations campaign, that was funded, in large part, by Purdue Pharma, to sell OxyContin.

    AMY GOODMAN: Talk about the growth of Purdue Pharma. Talk about the Sackler family, what was unusual about this company, what also makes it so difficult to investigate.

    BARRY MEIER: Well, the Sackler family is a fascinating family. As you know, their names are, you know, on every museum in the United States—here in New York at the Metropolitan, and at the National Gallery in Washington.

    AMY GOODMAN: Their names are on wings. Their names are very prominent.

    BARRY MEIER: On the elevators, on everything, you name it.

    AMY GOODMAN: But when it comes to the drug, where they make their fortune—

    BARRY MEIER: Right.

    AMY GOODMAN: —we don’t see their name.

    BARRY MEIER: Right. And not only that, the—there were three brothers, Arthur, Raymond and Mortimer. Arthur was the eldest. And he was sort of this kind of, I guess, you know, evil genius, if you will. He invented the modern-day drug advertising industry. All the ads that we see on TV today or in print are kind of the result of Arthur Sackler’s genius, or lack thereof, as you see it. And he kind of wedded together the pharmaceutical industry and the medical profession. He made doctors shills for drug companies. He created medical journals that were really kind of fake medical journals, because drug advertisers had to pay to get their studies into those medical journals. So he created all these deceptive marketing and advertising practices that are commonplace today. He died in 1986, before OxyContin was created.

    But to get his brothers into the drug industry, he bought this tiny little firm called Purdue Frederick, that was located here in New York, in Greenwich Village, as it turned out. They basically sold a lot of kind of crazy stuff. And eventually, in the mid-1990s, they decided to get into the pain medication business. They first bought a drug called MS Contin, which was a long-acting form of morphine, and they marketed it mainly to cancer specialists, where the drug was very, very valuable in dealing with cancer pain. But then, in the mid-1990s, as this drive to treat pain more aggressively began to unfold, they began to sell OxyContin, which is a long-acting form of the narcotic oxycodone. And this became the most aggressive, high-powered marketing campaign for a prescription narcotic in drug industry history. It was financed with Sackler money. The Sacklers were the principal beneficiaries of it. There were something like $31 billion worth of OxyContin sales in subsequent years. And the Sacklers became, I believe, the 14th or 15th richest family in the United States.

    AMY GOODMAN: I want to go to 1998. Purdue Pharma distributes another video, featuring seven patients who used OxyContin to deal with chronic pain. One of the patients was named Johnny Sullivan.

    JOHNNY SULLIVAN: I got my life back now. Now I can enjoy every day that I live. I can really enjoy myself. And before, even a good day was hell. I mean, I couldn’t enjoy nothing. But now I can enjoy myself. That’s when I say it’s wonderful. I look at the future the same way a young guy, 25-, 30-year-old, would.
    AMY GOODMAN: After appearing in that promotional video for Purdue Pharma, Johnny Sullivan became a severe addict to OxyContin and other opioids. In 2008, he died in a car crash when he fell asleep at the wheel. His wife said, because of his addiction, he would often nod off. Barry?

    BARRY MEIER: You know, this drug, for some patients, has been a godsend. But for many, many others, it has turned into a nightmare. We focus a lot about—on the subject of addiction, and rightly so. But not long ago, I interviewed a pain specialist, who had been sort of on the bandwagon promoting these drugs when they first came out. And he said to me, “You know, addiction is not the real problem with these drugs. It’s not the only problem with these drugs.” These drugs caused patients to emotionally opt out of life, you know, to become couch potatoes, to become withdrawn, to reject their family members and lose social contact. They had all other—they have all other kinds of troubling side effects. And so, you know, there is now a generation of patients who, effectively, are emotionally dependent upon these drugs.

    AMY GOODMAN: A spokesperson for Purdue Pharma said in a statement, in response to your article in The New York Times, his company is “involved in efforts to address opioid abuse,” and, quote, “Suggesting that activities that last occurred more than 16 years ago are responsible for today’s complex and multifaceted opioid crisis is deeply flawed.” Your response?

    BARRY MEIER: You know, I’m not a $600-an-hour lawyer. I don’t come up with, you know, statements like that. But let me put it in simple terms. Purdue Pharma violated the trust of doctors and patients. It lied to them. The Justice Department discovered reams of information, which, in their minds, showed that this company also concealed extraordinarily powerful information pointing to the abuse of these drugs, early—early on, when it was first marketed.

    AMY GOODMAN: What was the lie to the doctors?

    BARRY MEIER: The lie was that OxyContin would be less prone to abuse and addiction than competing painkillers. They admitted that they had told that lie in 2007, and paid $600 million in fines. I mean, that was a drop in the bucket where OxyContin sales were concerned. But they admitted that they had lied.

    AMY GOODMAN: You write about how Purdue sales reps used a chart to convince doctors that OxyContin was more stable than a traditional narcotic, even though the FDA had told Purdue that the information they were giving out was bogus.

    BARRY MEIER: That was just one of many lies that they used. I mean, the entire predicate of the company’s marketing campaign was based on a lie. I mean, that’s the simplest way of putting it. The Food and Drug Administration had given them permission to say, “This drug might be less prone to abuse and addiction.” They trained their sales reps to say it was less prone to abuse and addiction. Sales reps would go—and sales reps didn’t know what the reality was, but they would go to doctors and pharmacists and say, “You know, you can’t inject OxyContin. You can’t extract the oxycodone from OxyContin and inject it, because like the junkie will get a heart attack, they’ll drop over and die. This is a safe drug. This is much safer.” It was all an incredible lie. And at the same time, the company was concealing what was probably the most significant information they needed to tell doctors, which was this drug was being widely abused.

    AMY GOODMAN: Who is Laura Nagel?

    BARRY MEIER: Laura Nagel was the head—a key figure within the DEA at the time of this episode. She was in charge of the division of DEA that went after the diversion of legal drugs onto the street. It wasn’t sort of the narcs, you know, the guys who busted people for selling heroin or cocaine, but it was the diversion division which dealt with the misuse of prescription drugs.

    AMY GOODMAN: And what did she do?

    BARRY MEIER: She was a hero. She was a fighter. She saw what was going on. She realized that this company, A, was overly aggressively—you know, was promoting this drug, you know, to the nines, that people were dying from this drug. She tried to call them to account. And they essentially unleashed as much legal and lobbying firepower on her to basically try to roll her over.

    AMY GOODMAN: And what happened?

    BARRY MEIER: She basically backed off, just like everyone else in those days who came up against Purdue Pharma.

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    True NFL Draft Grades: 2014 Draft, Four Years Later

    ANDY BENOIT

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/05/08/draft-grades-2014-jadeveon-clowney-johnny-manziel-blake-bortles-khalil-mack

    Every spring there’s a rush to (prematurely) grade every team’s draft, even though we all know you can’t truly grade a draft until years later, when the players have (or haven’t) developed. With that in mind, a look back at the true grades of the 2014 NFL draft

    LOS ANGELES (THEN ST. LOUIS) RAMS

    Round 1 (2 overall). Greg Robinson, T, Auburn

    1 (13). Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh

    2 (41). Lamarcus Joyner, CB, Florida State

    3 (75). Tre Mason, RB, Auburn

    4 (110). Maurice Alexander, SS, Utah State

    6 (188). E.J. Gaines, DB, Missouri

    6 (214). Garrett Gilbert, QB, Southern Methodist

    7 (226). Mitchell Van Dyk, T, Portland State

    7 (241). Christian Bryant, DB, Ohio State

    7 (249). Michael Sam, DE, Missouri

    7 (250). Demetrius Rhaney, C, Tennessee State

    Greg Robinson’s career was like one big heavy plop onto a whoopy cushion. He struggled at multiple positions, for multiple coaches and in multiple schemes. At 25, he’s currently an unsigned free agent.

    Aaron Donald, the reigning Defensive Player of the Year, is whatever you’d call the opposite of Greg Robinson.

    Tre Mason had off-field problems that his family attributed to head injuries, ending his career.

    File this Lamarcus Joyner pick in the back of your mind. Joyner began his career as a nickel slot, but in 2017 he moved to free safety, where he played well enough to warrant a 2018 franchise tag. His 5′ 8″, 184-pound frame wouldn’t suggest it, but Joyner is a ferocious hitter. He’s also very rangy.

    Joyner starts ahead of Maurice Alexander, who has been an adequate backup but is too limited in coverage to start. Also in that secondary was E.J. Gaines, who turned out to be a steal and went to Buffalo in 2017 as part of the Sammy Watkins trade.

    The players who were selected after Gaines combined to play 13 NFL games, mainly on special teams. If not for that, and much, much more so for the Robinson pick, this draft would have been a solid A, maybe even an A+ if Joyner keeps ascending. But a giant whiff on the No. 2 overall selection and a disappointing third-round running back can’t be ignored.

    Grade: B

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    Rams land Ndamukong Suh, and the rest of the NFL has a nightmare on its hands

    VINCENT BONSIGNORE

    link: https://www.ocregister.com/2018/03/26/bonsignore-rams-land-ndamukong-suh-and-the-rest-of-the-nfl-has-a-nightmare-on-its-hands/

    Now this is just getting ridiculous.

    First the Rams pounced on opportunity at the start free agency to assemble the best cover corner due in the NFL by trading for All-Pro cornerbacks Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib.

    And now they’ve one upped themselves on Monday by adding Ndamukong Suh, the dominating veteran defensive lineman, to play alongside Aaron Donald and form the best defensive line one-two punch in the NFL.

    What’s an opposing offense to do?

    With Peters and Talib suffocating wide receivers on the outside and Donald and Suh dominating upfront is rush pressure and run defense, life just got a whole lot tougher for the rest of the NFL.

    And the Rams present and near future is looking decidedly bright.

    If you ever wondered how powerful the lure of Los Angeles would be for the Rams, let’s just say it’s already paying off. Pair it with a winning environment and a respected leader in Sean McVay, and it’s downright lethal.

    Talib had a chance to go to the Bay Area after the Broncos worked out a trade with the 49ers, but nixed that idea in favor of Los Angeles and the chance to reunite with defensive coordinator Wade Phillips.

    Peters was ecstatic to land in Los Angeles, a short flight from his native Oakland, to play in a city and state he is comfortable in.

    Now Suh, the biggest free agent prize remaining on the market, picked the Rams and Southern California over multiple suitors.

    And let’s not forget the $2.6 billion state-of-the-art stadium being built in Inglewood.

    These are attributes the Rams can sell players on, and as we’ve seen over the last three weeks, they make a difference. And they’re about to unleash a ferocious defense on the rest of the NFL as a result.

    It all seemed like a preposterous dream when Suh officially hit the open market after the Miami Dolphins released him in a cost-cutting move.

    The 31-year-old five-time Pro Bowler would certainly have serious suitors, and therefore price himself out of the Rams range. They had money under the cap, but pressing linebacker needs on the edge and inside after trading both Robert Quinn and Alec Ogletree. Meanwhile, Donald is due a hefty new contract and Todd Gurley and Jared Goff aren’t far behind.

    Sure, the Rams were intrigued by the possibility of adding Suh. But the harsh realities of the NFL salary system, and trying to find enough room under the cap to accommodate all their young stars, made it nothing more than a pipe dream.

    Or so everyone thought.

    Then Suh began making his way around the league in search of a new home, stopping first in New Orleans and Tennessee for face-to-face visits, and a surprising narrative began unfolding. Suh, it seemed, wasn’t so much focused on scoring another extravagant pay day as he was locating a landing spot that would help enhance his legacy. That meant a setup conducive to winning, and an environment in which he could potentially see himself spending the remainder of his career.

    After already pocketing $60 million from a historic Dolphins contract, the sense was Suh was less about the money and more about the chance to win a Super Bowl ring.

    That was right in the Rams’ wheelhouse, poised as they are as an up-and-coming NFL power with Goff, Gurley, Donald and Peters as their foundation, and offering the positive culture created by 31-year-old head coach Sean McVay and a conscientious locker room. They also provided a desirable location not too far from his hometown of Portland, Ore.

    And with enough money under the cap this year — and close to $100 million in space projected for 2019 — the Rams were perfectly positioned to creatively satisfy Suh’s monetary needs without sabotaging future efforts to retain their young stars.

    Suh, obviously intrigued, visited with the Rams all day Tuesday at their Thousand Oaks headquarters. The original plan had Suh heading up north immediately afterward to meet with the Raiders in Oakland. But by Wednesday morning, Suh cancelled the Raiders trip in order to process everything the Rams had to offer, and consider how it stacked up with the Titans and Saints pitches.

    The Rams, now all in, anxiously awaited word.

    On Monday, Suh made it official by picking the Rams over the Saints and Titans.

    The Rams had their man. Also Monday – league sources say Rams done due diligence in Odell Beckham Jr. in a possible trade.

    And the rest of the NFL had a new nightmare on their hands.

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    Five Things to Know about Rams DT Ndamukong Suh

    Kristen Lago

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Five-Things-to-Know-about-Rams-DT-Ndamukong-Suh/2ef62cce-d589-4a8a-b6d6-be92d1f76016

    The Rams have added yet another dynamic playmaker to their defense in defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh. The five-time Pro Bowler and three-time All Pro will join 2017 AP Defensive Player of the Year, Aaron Donald, as a core member of the Rams defensive front next season.

    Here are five things to know about the newest Ram:

    1) He is a first-generation American

    Suh was born and raised in Portland, Oregon but he is the first of his family to be born in the United States. His father, Michael, is from Cameroon and played semi-professional soccer in Germany, while his mother, Bernadette, was born in Jamaica.

    He was named after his paternal great-grandfather. In the Ngemba language of Cameroon, Ndamukong means “House of Spears.” Suh has visited both Cameroon and Jamaica and was even named an ambassador in Ntankah — the town where his dad grew up.

    2) Suh is friends with billionaire investor Warren Buffett

    In his spare time, Suh seeks business advice from former athletes like Roger Staubach or Magic Johnson and has been very vocal about his desire to pursue a business career post-football.

    As such, the defensive tackle has formed a few unlikely friendships with business moguls — like billionaire investor Warren Buffett. The pair first became acquainted at a meeting in Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway office in Omaha, Nebraska.

    The self-made billionaire and Suh both attended the University of Nebraska and as Buffett told the Sun Sentinel, “We hit it off right away.” Since that first meeting, Suh has shadowed Buffett multiple times and the two remain in close contact.

    3) He has appeared on several reality TV shows

    Suh is no stranger to the small screen.

    In total, he has appeared on three different reality TV shows — as a contestant on the Fox celebrity dating show “The Choice,” plus as a participant in both the ABC celebrity diving show “Splash” and an episode of the Discovery Channel’s “American Muscle.”

    4) Suh has donated over $2 Million to his alma mater

    On April 17, 2010, at the annual Husker Spring Game, Suh announced a $2.6 million donation to the University of Nebraska. Two million dollars would go to Nebraska Athletics, while the remaining $600,000 created an endowed scholarship for the UNL College of Engineering.

    His gift was the largest, single charitable contribution to the University by any former player and occurred several weeks before Suh was selected as the second overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft.

    5) He was the first collegiate defensive player to win the AP Player of the Year

    Suh’s college career was one for the record books. Through four years at the University of Nebraska, the defensive tackle led the Huskers to a Big 12 Championship and their first ever shutout win in the 2009 Holiday Bowl.

    In his senior season, Suh earned unanimous first-team All-Big 12 honors and the Big-12 Defensive Player of the Year Award. He was also named a finalist for the Heisman Trophy, took home the Lombardi Trophy — for the top collegiate lineman or linebacker — and was the first ever defensive player to receive the AP Player of the Year Award.

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    Rams agree to terms with free agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh on one-year contract

    By Gary Klein
    Mar 26, 2018 | 3:20 PM

    From the moment the 2017 season ended with a playoff defeat, Rams general manager Les Snead planned to spend the offseason making the teams’ defense more on par with its high-scoring offense.

    “We get that thing to dominant,” Snead said of the defense, “it would be kind of fun.”

    The Rams are looking dominant, on paper anyway. And they continued a frenzied offseason Monday by agreeing to terms with free-agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh on a one-year contract.

    Terms of the deal were not disclosed but the deal is reportedly worth $14 million.

    Suh is the third major addition to a defense that the Rams were working to put on the level of its offense, which ranked among the league’s best in 2017.

    In February, Snead traded for cornerback Marcus Peters. This month, before the start of free agency, he traded for cornerback Aqib Talib. The cornerbacks, with a combined five Pro Bowl selections between them, come with combined salaries that totaled less than it would have cost to retain Trumaine Johnson.

    Now the Rams have added the 6-foot-4, 307-pound Suh, giving them a potentially dominant front that also will feature NFL defensive player of the year Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers.

    Suh, 31, chose the Rams over the New Orleans Saints, Tennessee Titans, New York Jets and, perhaps, the Seattle Seahawks. The Rams were the final stop on Suh’s free-agent tour. He visited the Rams’ facility last Tuesday and had dinner that night with coach Sean McVay and team executives at Nobu in Malibu.

    “We came away impressed with just the human being,” McVay said Sunday night at the NFL owners meetings. “He’s got a good perspective.”

    The Jets were thought to have made the largest offer, but team owner Christopher Johnson told reportersSunday that the Jets had rescinded.

    “That can’t be anything but good news for us,” McVay said Sunday night.

    On Monday, before the deal was announced, Snead said he was not antsy.

    “It would probably be different if you needed a decision from him, let’s call it ASAP, because it might affect another decision,” Snead said. “In this case, because this is more, ‘Hey, you know what? This bonus became available’… the timeline is not holding us back.

    “That’s what makes this situation probably different than some.”

    This will be the third NFL team for Suh, a Portland, Oregon native who attended college at Nebraska and was the second overall pick by the Detroit Lions in the 2010 draft.

    Suh, a five-time Pro Bowl selection, played five seasons with the Lions before signing a six-year, $114-million contract with the Miami Dolphins that included $60 million in guarantees.

    Suh has 51½ sacks, but the vast majority came early in his career. Last season, he had 4½ sacks, the lowest total of his career in a 16-game season.

    The Dolphins released Suh on March 14, making him a free agent for the second time.

    This time, money was probably not the decisive factor.

    The Jets and the Titans were thought to have more salary-cap room for a richer deal, but the opportunity to play for McVay and defensive coordinator Wade Phillips on a team that appears to be ascending might have won Suh over.

    This will be the first time in Suh’s NFL career that he will play in a 3-4 rather than a 4-3, so Phillips must design ways to get the best out of Suh and Donald.

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    Rams encouraged after New York Jets rescind offer to Ndamukong Suh

    GARY KLEIN

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-suh-20180325-story.html

    The math in the Ndamukong Suh sweepstakes took a turn in the Rams’ favor Sunday, and coach Sean McVay sounded encouraged by the development.

    New York Jets owner Christopher Johnson told reporters at the NFL owners meetings that his team had rescinded its offer to Suh, a five-time Pro Bowl defensive tackle.

    “That can’t be anything but good news for us,” McVay said after a reception for attendees.

    Said Rams general manager Les Snead: “Time will tell, right? I’m sure in all these situations there’s multiple teams usually involved and you never really know when the other teams pull out or not. So we’ll wait and see.”

    Suh, released two weeks ago by the Miami Dolphins, has visited the Rams, Tennessee Titans and New Orleans Saints. The Portland, Ore., native also has reportedly spoken with the Seattle Seahawks.

    Suh visited the Rams last Tuesday, and then canceled a scheduled visit with the Oakland Raiders before the Jets entered the bidding with what was reportedly the largest offer.

    Suh’s visit with the Rams went “really well,” McVay said.

    “We came away impressed with just the human being,” he said. “He’s got a good perspective.

    “We’re hopeful that a lot of the things he said he’s looking for is kind of what our organization can provide. And hopefully we’ll figure out soon if he’s going to be a Ram or not.”

    Suh, an eight-year veteran with 51½ sacks, would add an intimidating element to a Rams front that includes NFL defensive player of the year Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers.

    During Suh’s visit, the Rams focused on how he would fit in defensive coordinator Wade Phillips’ 3-4 scheme.

    “We wanted to really get him in and show him who we were,” Snead said, adding, “and how we were going to play him, and how he’s going to fit in the 3-4 next to Brock and Aaron Donald.”

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    Several thousand demonstrators are ready to ‘March For Our Lives’ down Congress St. in Portland.

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    Several thousand demonstrators are ready to ‘March For Our Lives’ down Congress St. in Portland. The march is starting shortly after some remarks from speakers in Congress Square Park. Some signs we’ve seen so far: “Stop the killing,” “Policy and change over thoughts and prayers,” and “Listen to the youth.” #marchforourlives #portlandME

    Posted by Portland Phoenix on Saturday, March 24, 2018

    #84350

    In reply to: Suh to visit Rams?

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    http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-defensive-line-20180320-story.html

    Rams try to convince Ndamukong Suh to come to L.A.
    Gary Klein
    By Gary Klein
    Mar 20, 2018 | 4:55 PM

    Recruiting overtures from the Rams began last week, just after the Miami Dolphins released five-time Pro Bowl defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh.

    Hall of Fame running back Eric Dickerson made the initial pitch.

    Then newly acquired Rams cornerback Aqib Talib, winner of a Super Bowl title with the Denver Broncos, weighed in.

    On Monday, the day before Suh’s visit with the Rams in Thousand Oaks, Pro Bowl punter Johnny Hekker offered his thoughts.

    The tweets might have warmed the heart of the 6-foot-4, 307-pound Suh, but the real sales job commenced Tuesday. Suh was scheduled to meet with Rams coaches and have dinner with head coach Sean McVay and other front-office personnel.

    The Rams are the latest stop on Suh’s free-agent tour. It has included visits with the Tennessee Titans and the New Orleans Saints. Suh, who grew up in Portland, Ore., also has reportedly expressed interest in the Seattle Seahawks and is scheduled to visit the Oakland Raiders on Wednesday, according to ESPN.com.

    But it is the Rams, and the potential pairing of Suh with reigning NFL defensive player of the year Aaron Donald on the same line, that has NFL observers buzzing.

    Donald, 6-1 and 280 pounds, is regarded as perhaps the league’s most disruptive defensive player. He has amassed 39 sacks in four NFL seasons. Suh has 51½ career sacks in eight seasons, though only 15½ during his three with the Dolphins. Last season he had 4½ sacks, the lowest total for a season in which he played all 16 games.

    Suh also has cultivated a reputation for sometimes overly aggressive play. During his five seasons with the Detroit Lions, he was fined nine times for nearly $300,000 for penalties and incidents during games. In 2013 he was fined $100,000 for an illegal low block on then-Minnesota Vikings center John Sullivan, who’s now with the Rams.

    Suh was sidelined for two games in 2011 while serving a suspension for stomping the arm of a Green Bay Packers lineman, the only starts he has missed in 128 regular-season games.

    Donald, 26, and Suh, 31, could line up next to Michael Brockers in defensive coordinator Wade Phillips’ 3-4 scheme and wreak havoc in opposing backfields.

    Donald already is familiar with Suh — particularly Suh’s last contract: a six-year, $114-million deal the Dolphins gave him in 2015, that included $60 million in guarantees.

    Donald earned $1.8 million last season. He did not participate in organized team activities, minicamps or training camp because he wanted a new deal, and he sat out the opener. He still finished with a team-high 11 sacks in 14 games.

    Donald, scheduled to earn about $6.9 million this season, is seeking a contract that would make him the highest-paid defensive player and among the richest in the NFL.

    Rams general manager Les Snead said last week that a “timeline” for continued discussions with Donald’s representatives was in place, but he declined to be more specific.

    The Rams have about $30 million in salary-cap space. They are not expected to be the top bidder for Suh. But the opportunity to play for McVay and Phillips and alongside Donald, for a playoff team that appears to be ascending, might entice him to join the Rams’ remade defense on a short-term deal.

    Signing Suh would be the latest in a series of moves to strengthen a defense that last season ranked 28th against the run, 13th against the pass, 19th overall and 12th in fewest points allowed.

    Snead rebuilt the secondary by trading for Talib and cornerback Marcus Peters, signing veteran cornerback Sam Shields, and re-signing slot cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman. But the Rams need depth for their pass rush and at linebacker.

    After trading veteran linebackers Robert Quinn and Alec Ogletree, the Rams are counting on second-year pro Samson Ebukam to fill Quinn’s edge-rushing role and provide better run defense. Third-year pro Cory Littleton could step in for Ogletree.

    Suh was expected to encounter at least one familiar face during his visit with the Rams.

    Ted Rath, the team’s strength and conditioning coach, was an assistant strength coach for the Lions from 2009 to 2015 and held the same position with the Dolphins in 2016 before he was hired by the Rams last season.

    Agamemnon

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    3 old articles on Rams / Jags ownership evolution…….

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/377977-kroenke-vs-khan-fight

    Stan Kroenke Vs. Shahid Khan: The Fight for St. Louis Rams Ownership

    David Leon

    April 13, 2010

    So the other ownership shoe dropped last night for the Rams. Adam Schefter announced on ESPN’s NFL Live that Silent Stan Kroenke has decided to exercise his contractual right of first refusal to purchase the Rams.

    The report is correct. Enos Stan Kroenke has decided to exercise his contractual right of first refusal to purchase the remaining 60 percent of Ram stock he does not already own. This puts him squarely at odds with league rules and with Shahid Khan.

    First, the League Rules

    As you all know, the league has bylaws forbidding NFL majority owners from owning a majority share in any other sports franchise in an NFL city . The rule used to prohibit ownership of any other pro franchise in any city.

    The rule was mildly re-interpreted to allow Paul Allen (owner of the Portland Trailblazers) to purchase the Seattle Seahawks. The league owners wanted Paul Allen in the clubhouse and on the golf course. The owners wanted a league connection to the new silicon economy, and to Microsoft.

    League insiders have been divided on whether Kroenke might obtain a similar wavier, and/or whether the league might be prepared to do away with this archaic rule entirely. Many believe that this rule is an archaic relic of a bygone era. Many others believe the league will not change its policy for Kroenke’s sake. We are about to find out, one way or the other.

    Owning both an NBA and NHL franchise in Denver should automatically disqualify Kroenke, but it just so happens he is a buddy and business partner of Pat Bowlen. Bowlen is the owner of the Denver Broncos, and co-owner of the Colorado Crush of the Arena League…along with Stan Kroenke.

    Insiders expect Bowlen will plead his friend’s case. Pat Bowlen is a powerful owner, and he is also the theoretical aggrieved party , according to the strange philosophy behind the cross-ownership rule. Given Bowlen’s blessing, the deal might roll.

    Several factors mitigate in Kroenke’s favor:

    •The NFL Finance committee already announced that it doesn’t like one of the several financial devices Khan intends to use to purchase the Rams.
    •Kroenke is already an insider. He has been partial owner of the Rams since the early 1990s. He has been vice chairman of the Rams’ board for some time, and served on several NFL committees.
    •Kroenke has more money than Khan. Kroenke is worth an estimated $3 billion. His wife—Anne Walton, a Walmart heir—is worth $3.5 billion. Together they are worth approximately three times as much as Shahid Khan ($2.14 billion).
    •The NFL ownership booth is one of the most exclusive clubs around. It is a consummate old boys’ network. Kroenke is much more their type of guy than Khan.

    What is my take on the situation?

    On the one hand, I would have been shocked if Kroenke hadn’t exercised his right to purchase the rest of the Rams. My memory fails, but I remember Kroenke buying into the Rams back in 1993 or 1994, when the Rams were having serious financial trouble keeping up with the Joneses

    (Jerry Jones and Eddie DeBartolo).

    It was understood at the time that he wanted to buy the whole enchilada. This was the reason for the contractual right of first refusal he has chosen to exercise now. Ever since then, Kroenke has been waiting on line to buy the Rams.

    Why didn’t he just attempt to buy outright? One word: Strategy. He wanted the market to set a low price in accordance with the financial distress our nation is going through at the moment. There is also the cross-ownership rule which needs to be gotten around. Kroenke wanted to see what sort of ownership interest the Rams might scratch up, and see whether the owner’s club might prefer Kroenke to own the Rams.

    Will this blow up in his face? I seriously doubt a man of Kroenke’s sense would have exercised his right of first refusal if he had not been given some indications, if not outright assurances, that the NFL would hear his case with favor. I think he is confident that he will be approved, or he would not have made this move.

    Now, the Fight with Khan

    If the league rejects Khan and elects Kroenke, the move could be interpreted in racial terms. Would this be a case where collection of white Europeans just didn’t want a Pakistani fellow in the clubhouse? This could make for some very interesting legal wrangling inside league circles.

    Pray, for the good of the Rams, that this doesn’t happen. This could hold the Rams’ ownership status in limbo for several years. This could make for several years of lost franchise history.

    URL = http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=5496516

    Stan Kroenke is new Rams owner

    ATLANTA — Stan Kroenke will get his team.

    He’s just got to give up two others.

    The NFL unanimously approved a proposal for Kroenke to take over as majority owner of the St. Louis Rams on Wednesday, as long as he turns over control of his NBA and NHL teams to his son.

    Kroenke, a 63-year-old Missouri billionaire, first became involved with bringing pro football back to St. Louis in 1993 with a failed attempt to land an expansion franchise. When the Rams moved from Los Angeles two years later, he joined the Rosenbloom family as a minority owner, increasing his stake to 40 percent in 1997.

    Now, for a reported $750 million, the entire team will be his.

    “I’m a 17-year overnight success,” Kroenke quipped.

    But first he had to deal with NFL rules against ownership of major league franchises in other pro football cities. He owns the NBA’s Denver Nuggets and NHL’s Colorado Avalanche.

    Kroenke agreed to turn over operational and financial control of those teams to 30-year-old son, Josh, by the end of the year. He must give up his majority stake in the teams by December 2014.

    Kroenke marked the occasion by making a rare appearance before the media. He has steadfastly maintained a low profile as minority owner of the Rams, earning the nickname Silent Stanley.

    “I just have a really busy life,” he said. “I like the members of the press. I really do. I almost went to journalism school. I just don’t have the time. It takes a lot of time to build those relationships, to nurture them.”

    He scoffed as his reputation for being publicity shy.

    “I’m not trying to offend anyone,” Kroenke said. “I know there’s this wonderful little picture of Silent Stan. I guess it makes good copy. But it just isn’t so.”

    The NFL is confident Kroenke will follow through on his pledge to divest himself of control in the Nuggets and Avalanche, which are only part of his impressive collection of professional sports teams.

    “He has tremendous experience in other sports, which is a plus,” commissioner Roger Goodell said. “One of the issues is we want owners who focus on football. That’s what Stan will be doing. He’ll be focusing more on football.”

    Kroenke also owns the Colorado Rapids of Major League Soccer and the Colorado Mammoth of the National Lacrosse League. In addition, he is the largest shareholder in Arsenal of the English Premier League.

    “He’s a quiet man who’s very effective in what he does,” said Bob Kraft, owner of the New England Patriots. “We learned about his other businesses and what he does, how he handles things overseas. He just does things the right way, and I know he wants to win.”

    The Rams haven’t done much winning lately. Kroenke is taking control of a former Super Bowl champion that has gone 6-42 over the last three years — including an NFL-worst 1-15 a year ago.

    He plans to run the Rams with the same behind-the-scenes style he had as minority owner. But there will be no mistake who’s the boss.

    “I don’t think it’s a mystery the way we’re running our other clubs,” Kroenke said. “I like to know what’s going on; I like to be involved. But the No. 1 thing is finding the right people, putting them in place and trying to help them out.”

    After years of sellouts, the Rams have fallen on hard times. The crowds have thinned considerably at the 15-year-old Edward Jones Dome, leading to speculation that St. Louis could lose its NFL team for the second time. The Cardinals moved to Arizona in 1987, and the NFL has made no secret that it would like to get a franchise back in Los Angeles, the nation’s second-largest market.

    Kroenke’s purchase of the team would appear to make the Rams less likely to move.

    “I’ve been around St. Louis and Missouri a major portion of my life,” he said. “I’ve never had any desire to lead the charge out of St. Louis. That’s not why we’re here. We’re here to work very hard and be successful in St. Louis.”

    Then, he added, “Now, the realistic part of that. I live to be competitive. To be competitive, you have to have revenue. We’re going to work really hard to have a model that produces revenue where we can be consistently competitive. Anyone can be a contender in the pro sports business every so often. The real challenge is to be competitive every year.”

    The Rams’ brother-sister ownership team of Chip Rosenbloom and Lucia Rodriguez inherited the Rams from the late Georgia Frontiere. They decided to sell because of inheritance tax issues and had a bid from Illinois businessman Shahid Khan to purchase their 60 percent share in February.

    Kroenke stepped in, exercising his right to buy the rest of the team with a matching bid.

    Khan issued a statement praising the man who scuttled his bid for the Rams.

    “This adventure didn’t turn out the way I had hoped,” Khan said, “but it was otherwise a worthwhile experience in every respect and I’ll always be a fan of the St. Louis Rams.”

    Josh Kroenke is a former Missouri basketball player. He’ll serve as governor of the NHL team and set the budget, but team president Pierre Lacroix will retain control over personnel decisions.

    Given his background, the younger Kroenke will likely have a larger role with the Nuggets, who are restructuring their front office after parting with executives Mark Warkentien and Rex Chapman.

    One of the Nuggets’ biggest priorities is deciding what to do with Carmelo Anthony, who has so far declined to accept a three-year, $65 million contract extension.

    Stan Kroenke declined to comment on Anthony’s status at the NFL owners meeting.

    “I’m here to talk about the Rams,” he said. “We’ll talk about Carmelo some other time. I’m sure Josh will have a lot of good answers for you on that.”

    https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/11/29/2596241/stan-kroenke-shahid-khan-jacksonville-jaguars-sold

    Jilted In 2010 By Stan Kroenke, Shahid Khan Buys The Jaguars

    by Ryan Van Bibber Nov 29, 2011, 10:38am CST

    The Jacksonville Jaguars connections to the St. Louis Rams are simply frightening today. The most recent tangent, Illinois auto parts magnate Shahid Khan will buy the Jaguars. Rams fans know Khan from his attempt to buy the Rams in 2010.

    Khan was close to signing on the dotted line to purchase the 60 percent share Chip Rosenbloom and Lucia Rodriguez, passed to them by Georgia Frontiere. Stan Kroenke swooped in at the last minute and exercised his right to purchase the remaining portion of the team, giving him 100 percent ownership.

    According to Peter King, Kroenke move “disappointed” Khan for very personal reasons.

    Khan’s Americanization as a kid was centered around a love of football. Very disappointed when Kroenke trumped his bid for Rams in 2010.

    Not that it matters much to me, ultimately, but there is a bit of cosmic justice in Khan finally getting to purchase an NFL team. Like he did with the Rams, Khan is promising to keep the Jags in their current city.

    Now, let’s just hope Kroenke gets the Rams functional sooner than the Jags find their direction.

    #74171
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    I’ll chime in here.

    I’m 57 years old. And I’ve never met an avowed white supremacist who was part of an organized movement. Sure, I’ve met more than a few racist white people (“I’m not prejudiced, but”…Yeah, you are). But I’ve met plenty of racist POC, too. To me, it’s a sick human condition borne of, on the white side, fear of diversity and on other, resentment and anger over historical injustices. And a whole lot of ignorance all the way around.

    I watched Charlottesville and seethed at the tiki-torch march while 200 fucking loons chanted anti-semitic filth. See, my girlfriend is Jewish. And I’ve never understood anti-antisemitism, even when it was explained to me by a person with a deep background in Jewish studies. That said, I put it in perspective…it was 200 loons, not 2000, 20,000 or 200,000. Out of a population of 310 million in the country. But as ugly as it was, they had every right to march and demonstrate. At the very least, they can be watched as long as they’re out in the open.

    Which brings us to Antifa which -is- underground..I live in San Jose and saw the violence downtown at the infamous Trump rally where his supporters were spat on, egged and assaulted while the cops sat back and watched. It was sick and chilling. But Antifa wasn’t involved…most of the troublemakers were -allegedly- bussed in by the SEIU labor union…Up in Berkeley, that is/was another story. Antifa marched in – like Nazis- intent on cracking heads and breaking shit. Just for the sake of cracking heads, breaking shit and silencing by force any message they didn’t like (the Milo riot). Again, the cops stood by while this all happened, evading the fireworks shot at them in order to avoid “escalation.” It was chilling to watch it all unfold.These Antifa types are what they profess to hate- fascists. And I think they should labeled as a domestic terrorist organization or at least use Gang suppression laws to deal with what I believe is a true threat to our freedoms, particularly the FA. I was pleased to see so many Antifas charged with Felony Rioting in Washington during the inauguration and also the mounting arrests here and in Portland (Yvette Felarca, Bike-Lock Professor, etc) To me, this is serious shit and has to be dealt with before 100 people are killed at one of their riots…

    Now I know what’s coming…what about the right-wingers who came just to rumble with communists and anarchists? Arrest them, too. All these fuckers are a threat to us all, left, middle or right…

    #74025
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    It’s not a matter of looking at selective ‘sites’ to get a perspective of how out-of-whack the number of these Antifa fucks are in comparison to neonazis, or the KKK, or racists, or Supremacists, or whatever else we Conservatives are now. I’m not a fan of White Supremacists either, but let’s not pretend they’re suddenly some huge organization that benefited from Trump being elected President by having their ranks swell exponentially via the awakening of dormant supporters (which is what the media is leading people to believe). Their numbers are miniscule in comparison to the population. Antifa, on the other hand, isn’t some club you can join. It’s a movement consisting of members from all walks of life who don’t possess the intellectual capacity to differentiate between Conservatism and pure, unadulterated hate groups. And for that, I blame the education system. Specifically Universities. The shit young adults are being taught now is negligent.

    Talk about the need for border security – you’re a racist.
    Talk about the need for a stronger military – you’re an imperialist.
    Talk about the decline of morality – you’re a religious zealot (and intolerant)
    Dispute the claim that global warming is indisputable – you’re a moron.
    Failure to acknowledge income inequality – you’re privileged (horeshit)
    You’re white? Holy shit are you evil.
    and so on, and so on.

    I don’t expect you (or 99% of this board) to acknowledge that the left is destroying Western Civilization. It’s only my opinion based on the way I see things unfolding now (and over the past decade). But I do expect some of you to acknowledge that this whole “White Supremacy” thing is WAYYYYYY overblown, and only became a dangerous threat about 8 months ago. And again, for no other reason than it was suggested and/or conjured. Not because it’s any more prevalent than it was 8 years ago.

    I want to ask you a few things because I think I can ask you and get a straight answer, whereas talking online with other conservatives usually goes badly. I mean…these conversations often go off the rails, and become hopeless. I know you well enough that I think if I accidentally offend you, you won’t take it personally.

    First of all…an observation. This isn’t meant to be a judgement, just an observation. A few of the attitudes you express here seem to me to be what must be circulating amongst the conservative media outlets because I see the same stuff repeated by others.

    Namely:

    1. Neo-Nazis are a small, insignificant group and the Left is over-reacting.
    2. Antifa is worse, and more violent. (This is always couched in terms of, “I’m not a racist, but…).
    3. Universities are basically leftist indoctrination machines, and not to be trusted.
    4. The Left says that being a white male is bad in and of itself.
    5. The issue with Illegal Immigration has nothing to do with race; it has to do with Legality

    On 1 & 2: From my point of view, the logic here doesn’t hold up. The very standard of measurement you and other conservatives hold up here seems to me to lead to the opposite conclusion. First of all, you are dismissing nazis by saying there aren’t many of them. But there are far fewer Antifa. There are hardly any. They popped up in Berkeley, and Portland, I think. But they are not showing up in any significant numbers anywhere. They are a minority amongst the counter-protesters even at the events they do show up at. You complained earlier about the Left’s lack of intellectual ability to distinguish subgroups…well….? And secondly, we KNOW that the folks in Charlottesville showed up ready to rumble, and not just because they came literally armed. There are emails and forum posts that talk about mixing it up before they even went up there. And look who got arrested. So the narrative doesn’t even match what the police did and said. Furthermore, FFS, it was a nazi who drove a car into counter-protesters killing one and injuring 19, as you well know, and they weren’t Antifa, either. As zn pointed out, on the one hand there is a group that stereotypes large numbers of people and actively promotes discrimination (and worse!) against all of those people, and on the other side, a group of people whose ONLY motive is to stop that movement from taking on any legitimacy whatsoever. And, yes, they use violence to do so, and shouldn’t. In my view, the nazis or worse. They discriminate with a very broad brush, whereas Antifa is targeted exclusively on stopping the legitimacy of hatred. So when you come out and say, “Fascists are bad, but they don’t really matter because there aren’t many of them. Anti-fascists are worse” even though there are even fewer of them, the conclusion I draw is this (and tell me how I’m wrong): You don’t like the fascists, but you recognize that you share other common purposes outside the realm of race, so they are a shitty ally, but they are an ally nonetheless in the war against the Left, and that matters more to you than the “numerically insignificant” racist stuff. That’s what I get.

    On number 3: I don’t know what to say. I don’t think there is any way to have dialogue on this because people see what they want to see here. I can only say this point of view makes me very sad because I personally have a great deal of faith in mankind’s collective ability to advance knowledge and understanding, and universities are the best institution for those advances for a variety of reasons. I think distrust of universities is literally imperiling civilization.

    #4: They don’t say that, and by “they,” I mean thoughtful, calm, educated people on the Left, including Liberals. I completely understand how it feels that way, and I have personally been attacked for being a white male myself. But…to me…that gets back to the Broad Brush issue. Personally, I don’t believe that there is a correlation between political ideology and intelligence. There are plenty of idiots on my side of the fence. My son and I have made a hobby of pointing out the morons we largely agree with.

    #5. Well. This isn’t going to go well. My problem here is that if this was really about Law and Order, and Legality, the people complaining about this would also have complained about Joe Arpaio. We have all kinds of legal violations going on in this country, and the Right is selective in its outrage about this fact. This just really looks to me like sophistry, to some extent the same kind of rationalization that is used in 1 & 2 above. “We really care about law and process HERE, but over there it doesn’t really matter.” We can’t let foreign countries get away with violating international laws, but we can violate them because we have a good reason to. Obama’s executive orders are a gross violation of government, but the fact that he issued fewer than Reagan and either of the Bushes isn’t mentioned. You know…illegal immigrants pay more in taxes than many Fortune 500 corporations do.

    Finally…last thing…and maybe, actually, the thing I most want to know…

    How the hell is Left destroying Western Civilization? What does that mean?

    #71332
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    A Familiar Position For Jared Goff

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-feature/A-Familiar-Position-For-Jared-Goff/5fc43c88-b06a-4c94-86e9-3be059e0c619

    A trip to Jared Goff’s hometown reveals a lot about the QB who starred at Marin Catholic and Cal and is now aiming for big things with the Rams.

    NOVATO, Calif. — When Jared Goff was a freshman at Cal, the Golden Bears finished 1-11.

    If that piece of information is familiar to you, it should be. As one of the widely heralded top quarterbacks of the 2016 draft class, Goff’s record was repeatedly dissected and scrutinized in the lead up to the Rams selecting him with the No. 1 overall pick.

    Despite the team struggles of that first college season, Goff helped put the program in a position to go 8-5 in his junior year, winning a bowl game for the first time since 2008. And in the process, Goff became one of the most prolific passers in Pac-12 history.

    The situations are not the same, but it’s easy to draw parallels between that freshman season and Goff’s first year in the NFL. Speaking with the quarterback and a few of those close to him in his hometown over a weekend in late June, it’s clear why they are all eager and optimistic as Goff’s second season gets underway.

    “I was always a quarterback since I was about 7 or 8 years old,” Jared says. “Always a quarterback.”

    The Rams No. 1 overall pick has been hosting a youth flag football tournament over the last two days at his alma mater, Marin Catholic, where he starred as the high school’s varsity signal-caller from 2010-2012. Jared led the program to a 39-4 record in that time, winning three Marin County Athletic League championships and one CIF North Coast Section title.

    As he said himself, Jared has been a quarterback long before he was torching high schools from all over the Bay Area. But always?

    “It’s kind of funny. He was never the biggest kid. He’s gotten to the point now where he can handle himself, but back then, he was lean,” Jared’s father, Jerry Goff, recalls. Jerry played Major League Baseball in the 90s as a catcher for the Montreal Expos, Pittsburgh Pirates, and Houston Astros. “So we walked up the first day of football practice, and sent him out there with the rest of the kids. And he got in the linemen line.”

    “Nobody knows — they’re seven years old, right?” Jerry laughs. “So he’s over there with the linemen and I’m like, ‘Man… I don’t want him to be a lineman.’ Because I had just played high school football and I knew his body wasn’t meant for that. So we had a little chat after and I said, ‘Hey, you’ve got to get out of that group and try this group.’ And that’s when he ended up doing what he’s doing now.”

    “He loved it,” Jared’s mother, Nancy Goff, says of her son playing quarterback. “He just took off and loved it from Day 1.”

    While quarterbacks don’t traditionally drop back much at that age, part of Jared’s love for the position came from his early ability to pass.

    “I was just throwing the ball further than everyone so that’s why I started it,” Jared says. “And then as I grew older, I kind of grew into the position and everything that kind of goes along with it. And it’s kind of shaped me a little bit.”

    Shaped him?

    “Just the way I carry myself. [Being a quarterback] gives you confidence, and you have to have confidence at the position,” Jared says. “Leadership, energy, and everything else has shaped into my personality.

    But if you ask his mom, Jared may have simply been innately suited to play what’s often described as the most difficult position in sports.

    “I think he’s a natural leader. He loves telling people what to do, orchestrating things — even not just in football, but when he gets friends together,” Nancy says. “He likes orchestrating and leading, and he’s good at it.”

    “He’s got a real strong sense of himself, a real strong sense of confidence,” she continues. “We get asked a lot that question — ‘Where does that come from?’ And I think the real explanation is the easiest: It’s just who he is.”

    By the time Jared reached Marin Catholic, he’d been playing football for years. He clearly had arm talent, but no one quite knew how he would fare at the high school level.

    Mazi Moayed has been Marin Catholic’s football coach since 2010, and remembers his first impression of Jared well.

    “Tall, skinny kid who wanted to play quarterback,” Moayed says. “You have a lot of guys with that type of frame, and everybody wants to play quarterback.”

    But there was something different about the way the ball would come off of Jared’s hand.

    “You watch him throw the football, and you’d be like, ‘Wow, that looked really easy.’ Like, you felt like you could do it,” Moayed says. “You could tell he was special then. And he had the tools and the gifts — just had to see, at that point, was he going to have the head and the heart for it?”

    Moayed and his staff learned Jared possessed both as he began his sophomore year.

    “You could see right away [that] he was mature, just a mature athlete,” Moayed says. “And his competitive toughness was pretty awesome. He would compete like crazy at practice.”

    Even though he was the starter, Jared wanted to be the scout-team quarterback, too. And so Moayed sent him out there in each practice as a sophomore, with Jared always trying to get the best of the first-team defense.

    “It was fun — it was a good rivalry. A lot of his best friends were on the other side of the football, so it made it that much sweeter,” Moayed says. “That stood out right away, though, his sophomore year, was wanting to even be the scout-team guy. And we let him. And I think it made him better because it was always good-on-good.”

    Growing up with a professional athlete as a father likely fostered that spirit in Jared.

    “He’s got a very competitive side. I mean, he and my husband, they’ll compete over ping pong to where it gets a little nasty sometimes,” Nancy says. “Neither of them can stand to lose.”

    But along with the intangibles, Jared’s skill-set allowed him to flourish.

    Moyaed says Jared had an “ability to stand in the pocket and [keep his] eyes downfield. It didn’t matter what was happening — he’d be willing to stand in there and take a hit. You saw that in high school all the time and that was the No. 1 thing recruiters noticed when they’d come through, is, ‘Wow, he stays in the pocket and his eyes are downfield the whole time.’”

    “He was pinpoint accurate and that was really helpful,” Moyaed adds. “It helped the average guys become a lot better, and the good guys become great because of how he was able to place the ball.”

    Even then, Jared was exhibiting qualities that would help him get selected at the top of the draft — including his on-field demeanor.

    “His calmness no matter the situation — he takes a hit, just playing the next play staying focused, and cool, and sort of calming the other guys down,” Moyaed says. “He has the energy to keep it fun and loose so he can be efficient.”

    That sense of calmness was another significant point of Jared’s evaluation when he was entering the NFL. He says it’s just a quality he thinks he’s always had.

    “I don’t know, I think it comes from trying to enjoy the game,” he says. “Trying to not make it more than it is, trying to have fun and don’t make the moment bigger than it is. It’s still just a game at the end of the day — a fun game we all play — and just try to enjoy it everyday.”

    “I think he has a way of calming himself and knowing it’s going to be OK,” Jerry says. “You want to succeed at whatever you do. But there’s going to be some failures. And for his ability to push those off and push to the next play, or the next game — whatever it may be — is a really nice way to be wired as a quarterback.”

    Whenever a high school player is putting up numbers like Jared — he threw 44 touchdowns as a junior — colleges are going to start giving him some attention. And so during that 2011 season, Jared started getting the sense that he had a future in football.

    “I knew my junior year I could do it,” Jared says. “My junior year, I had a pretty good year — a bunch of touchdowns and not many interceptions and we were really good. I had some pretty good receivers around me that year and that’s when I kind of knew I could do it, started getting some interest.”

    “Probably his junior year of high school where I knew, ‘You know, maybe he can play in college,’” Jerry says. “I’m like, ‘OK, he’s doing some things now that he has a chance to play in college. I don’t think he can for sure, because he’s still got to get better.’ And he kept getting better.”

    So college programs began to show interest, and eventually Jared was offered Washington State, Boise State, and a school just a half hour away from his hometown: University of California, Berkeley.

    “He had talked to a few other colleges, offers from a few others, and was still talking to a few others,” Nancy says. “And at one point he said to both Jerry and I, ‘I know I can’t do better than Cal. I know that’s where I want to go.’ And Jerry said, ‘Then just declare. Let’s do it.’ And so he did.”

    “It was close to home, that was part of it,” Jared says. “It was nice to be close to home but ultimately, it was the chance to compete in the Pac-12. Great school — if football didn’t work out, you get a great degree.”

    It was a choice that elicited plenty of family pride, as both Jerry and Nancy had attended Cal, too. Back then, Jerry not only excelled on the baseball field, but was also a punter for the football program.

    “We were so happy — I was so happy. It’s unreal, it really is unreal, as a mom who went to school there, to have your son then deciding that he’s going to play there. And, hopefully, be the starting quarterback at Cal,” Nancy says. “I watched Jerry play there. So to be back on that field, Memorial Stadium, with Jared starting was unreal.”

    “Yeah, selfishly it was great, because we could see every home game — we’re a half hour away,” Jerry says. “And then we were able to go on the road, too, because it wasn’t that big of a deal being on the West Coast. It meant a lot, in terms of just his legacy. He’s a second generation Cal guy, which is good.”

    There were, however, a couple of factors that could have complicated Goff’s ascent. The first, was that Cal wanted Jared to enroll in the spring of 2013 so he could participate in spring practices. That meant the quarterback would have to graduate Marin Catholic early, which wasn’t something normally done.

    “We got on the phone with Marin Catholic and said, ‘What do we need to do?’” Nancy says. “He had to take a few summer school classes. He had to do a few things because Marin Catholic has some other requirements. And they didn’t waive any of them — he had to finish the way everyone else finishes, but within three-and-a-half years. So we went online, he took some classes and he got it done.”

    “That was just kind of new, believe it or not, in 2013,” Jerry says. “A lot of kids hadn’t been doing that. It started maybe in 2012 with a few kids. That’s your only chance to play as a freshman at the quarterback position — is to get out of high school a semester early. And he felt, you know, he’s like, ‘I want to do this. I want to get this done.’”

    The opportunity to start as a freshman was a significant factor for why Jared wanted to graduate in that time frame. In a way, it’s an example of his highly competitive nature.

    “I could’ve played baseball and still enjoyed my spring semester [in high school],” Jared says. “But it was the fact that I knew, if I’m sitting in class here, and it’s second semester senior year — you know how it goes. It’s like every class is kind of a joke towards the end. So sitting there and they’re doing practice across the bridge, and they don’t have a quarterback, and I’m like, ‘What am I doing here?’ I knew I didn’t want to be in that situation. So that’s why I went.”

    “I obviously did miss my friends a little bit but there were times where they would come over and see me at Cal or I’d go back home on weekends all the time. It really wasn’t too bad, because I was so close,” Jared adds. “But that was the best decision I’ve ever made, going there early.”

    “I think, obviously, when you look back on it, that could be why he is where he is now,” Jerry says. “If he doesn’t go there [early], he probably doesn’t start, and who knows? Things happen for a reason, and it was a good call on his part wanting to do that.”

    The other complicating factor: Cal relieved head coach Jeff Tedford of his duties after the 2012 season, meaning Jared would walk into an unfamiliar situation with a coach who hadn’t recruited him. But even though there were potential opportunities to go elsewhere, Jared never wavered in where he wanted to be.

    “I committed to the school,” he says. “I love coach Tedford, I thought he was great, I loved his whole staff. But I was committed to Cal as a school and as the institution it is.”

    “I think he’s an ‘all-in’ type of guy with whatever he does — very loyal guy,” Moayed says of Jared. “And I think after he’d been committed that long, his heart, mind, and soul was into Cal. In his mind and heart, he had already played there, practiced there, walked-through there. He was already there.”

    In some ways, the coaching change may have worked to Jared’s advantage. Cal hired Sonny Dykes and he brought with him an air-raid offense that bore a closer resemblance to what Moayed ran at Marin Catholic.

    “With coach Tedford’s scheme, although very successful, it’s hard to come in and learn his system right away in one spring,” Moayed says. “You’re better off [red] shirting to grow in that offensive system.”

    Under Dykes, Jared effectively learned the new offensive system and seized the starting role as a true freshman in August.

    “I went in there not really knowing what was gonna happen, but just trying to do my best. And through probably a few weeks of early spring training, I thought, ‘Man, I could do this. I feel like I’m better than all these guys and I feel like I could do it,’” Jared says. “And I worked, and worked, and worked all the way through the summer and worked hard all the way through training camp and was named the starter about two weeks before the first game.”

    Though he earned the starting role and set a number of passing records in 2013, Goff’s first college season was tough.

    “It was rough, there’s no doubt about that. He lost four games throughout his whole high school career, and he loses 11,” Jerry says. “And not only did they lose, they got rolled.”

    It was the program’s worst record in history, with Cal’s only win coming Week 2 against Portland State.

    Nevertheless, there were positives. Two of those new Cal records were yards passing (3,508) and completions (320) — both of which he’d later break. And it was during that year that Jared and those around him began to realize what his ceiling might be.

    “When I played my freshman year, we were terrible but I was still throwing it around pretty good, and completing some balls, and completing some big plays,” Jared says. “So I was like, ‘Alright, I can do it.’”

    “Even through that 1-11 season, you would hear a lot of bright things about Jared,” Nancy says. “Especially on TV by the commentators about his pocket presence, his arm, his quick feet — things that they talk about when players can go on, attributes that you kind of need to have to go on. Not that they won that often, but Jared’s physical attributes. So I think it was right his freshman year when we started hearing people talk about it on TV, and I was like, ‘Hmm, OK, this could happen for him.’”

    Part of that was Jared’s attitude. Even though his freshman season went south quickly, he stayed even keel.

    “He hung in there and kept it together,” Jerry says. “He could’ve fell apart real easily — because there was another guy there who was highly recruited who got there before him. He could’ve [started] looking over his shoulder — never ever flinched the whole time.”

    “To see him perform consistently at the level he was, the way he was throwing the ball, that, to me, said a lot,” Moayed says. “Just to keep throwing for all the yards that he did even though the team was struggling the way that it was. And to keep your head about you to be executing efficiently, and re-set every week. When you have a fresh approach, you’ve got to be really tough minded to do that. And after that year, I was like, ‘Hey, it’s only going to get better from here. It’s not going to be any worse.’”

    But in order to make that happen, Jared had plenty to overcome. He had the support of his coaches and teammates, but also the confidence in himself to put the 1-11 season behind him and take Cal football in the right direction.

    “I think there were a lot of things we went through and had to learn from and ultimately, it was changing the culture, and changing the expectation in the building,” Jared says. “And I was a part of that but I wasn’t the only part of that — there were a bunch of guys there with me that were pulling their weight as well. And I’m proud to say I was a part of it but by no means was I the only person behind that. It was a group effort.”

    “No team has ever gone 1-11 and then to a bowl game the next year in college football. And they could’ve done that. There were a couple of games that they probably could have won [but] didn’t,” Jerry says. “They ended up 5-8, and then yeah, they moved on.

    “So I think the fans in L.A., just to push this forward a little bit, are going to see that, too, out of this kid,” Jerry continues. “Being that he played seven games and didn’t win any of them — that’s no secret — you guys, hang with this guy. He’s going to be alright.”

    As Jerry says, the similarities between Jared’s freshman year at Cal and his rookie season in the NFL are plainly apparent. After L.A. traded up to No. 1 overall to select him, Jared started seven games, but the Rams finished the year 4-12. And completing just 55 percent of his passes for 1,089 yards with five touchdowns and seven interceptions was not an ideal first year by any stretch.

    “I learned a lot,” Jared says. “I think I learned, ultimately, that winning in this league is not easy and doesn’t come without sacrifice. There’s a lot of things that you need to lay on the line a little bit to get what you want. And, ultimately, that is winning. And I think I learned that — I think our whole team learned that.”

    “Definitely want to use some of the things I did learn last year, though, to continue to move myself forward and our team.”

    Those close to Jared all have a strong sense that the quarterback will have a much improved 2017. They say he’s proven he has the ability to do it through his resolve and resiliency.

    “His track record shows it — he gets better every year,” Jerry says. “Every year, no matter what he does, at whatever level he plays, he gets better. And he’s going to get better, and get better, and get better. He’s not going to stay static — that’s not in his DNA.”

    “I think the biggest thing is going to be taking that 1-11 year and using that to his advantage, just sort of being himself and staying the course,” Moayed says. “He’s been playing football all his life and I always hear these different things on interviews or write ups, and sometimes it’s like they’re talking about a guy like he’s never played football before, you know? It’s sort of funny. But there’s a lot of elements involved. And I think he’s going to bounce back and have a great year coming up with the Rams.”

    “I think things are on the rise there. I think it’s kind of similar to Cal, where it’s kind of a shift in culture, new coach, they’re kind of turning some things around,” Nancy says. “And I think it’s going to get better just like Cal — I really do. I have a lot of confidence. Jared, obviously, has a lot of confidence. And I think his teammates do. I mean, you can feel it.”

    Wide receiver Nelson Spruce — who helped out at Jared’s camp in June — says he’s noticed a difference not just within the dynamic of the team, but also with the way his quarterback handled the offseason program.

    “I just think that leadership role that he’s taken is where I’ve seen the most growth,” Spruce says. “He knows he’s going to be the guy Day 1, and he’s kind of taken the position as the leader of our offense, and the leader of our team. And I think a lot of that has to do with the year that he had, and seeing what goes into an NFL season, and what it takes to lead an NFL team. And I think on the field as well, he’s kind of taken some big strides.

    “Being the No. 1 overall pick, and coming in [last year] as a quarterback in that situation — I couldn’t imagine the pressure,” Spruce adds. “Anyone in that situation is going to have their speed bumps. But I think what he did was learn from that. That’s one thing I’ve noticed he does well — he won’t repeat the same mistakes. So I think that he’s kind of taken all the lessons he’s learned from the past year. We did have a lot of negative moments last year, and I think he learned from all those. And he’s doing his best to make sure we don’t repeat them.”

    Part of that certainly has to do with Los Angeles’ new staff, led by head coach Sean McVay. Between McVay, offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur, and quarterbacks coach Greg Olson, Jared has plenty of support to help guide him to a much more successful 2017. But it’s the environment McVay implemented in and around the building that Jared feels can make an even bigger impact.

    “I think what coach McVay has done so far with the new culture he’s instilled and the new expectations and all that stuff is exactly on line with what we need,” Jared adds. “And I’m really excited about what we’ve got working now.”

    Jared has the skills. He has the intangibles. He feels he has the right teammates and coaches around him. He has the experience.

    That’s why when you ask him what to expect from the Rams this upcoming season, he eagerly replies, “A lot more.”

    “It’s turning — you can feel it in OTAs, you can feel it in minicamp. The tide is turning,” Jared says. “And, again, I think it starts with coach McVay and everything he’s instilled. Just the expectation level is much higher this year — much higher. I know it’s higher on myself. And I know I’m ready to go.”

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    OU Football: The story behind Hal Mumme’s Jedi mind trick that still mystifies defenses
    By BERRY TRAMEL Published: September 4, 2015 3:01 PM CDT Updated: September 4, 2015 3:06 PM CDT

    Hal Mumme is 63 years old and coaching at Belhaven, a Division III school in Jackson, Miss., close in geography but far in status from the bright SEC lights under which he once flourished. But make no mistake. Mumme is having fun.

    How could he not be? He’s still coaching the Air Raid. Still emperor of the offense that took the college football galaxy, particularly the American Southwest, by storm.

    “Pure fun,” Mumme said of the offense he invented and is being re-installed at Oklahoma by new Sooners offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley. That offense debuts on Saturday when the Sooners play Akron in a 6 p.m. home-opener (pay-per-view).

    ESPN’s Kevin Van Valkenburg profiled Mumme a year ago and wrote, “Talk all you want about the gridiron genius of Nick Saban, Gus Malzahn or Chip Kelly. But it’s Hal Mumme who brought you the game you’re watching today.”

    Mumme was born in San Antonio, played high school football at Thomas Jefferson in Dallas and graduated from Tarleton State University in Stephenville, Texas. But the offense Mumme bred has stretched all across America. Here’s how it happened.

    ***

    Hal Mumme sat in his Texas-El Paso office one day in 1983, when Mouse Davis appeared. The United States Football League had just finished its first year, and Davis, with the Houston Gamblers, was out scouting. “Sat there and talked to me for seven hours,” Mumme said. “That’s where all the ideas started.”
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    That’s what this Air Raid business is all about. Ideas. Stretch your imagination and stretch the field.

    Davis ran the run-and-shoot, another new-age offense that rebelled against convention. Mumme was the UTEP offensive coordinator, running a traditional I formation.

    Mumme says he couldn’t have switched offenses even had he wanted to. Head coach Bill Yung wouldn’t have allowed it. But you can’t stonewall ideas.

    ***

    Mumme sat in a Brigham Young football office in 1986. The UTEP staff had been fired. Mumme had landed at Texas’ Copperas Cove High School. But at least he was a head coach. He could do what he wanted. And he wanted to mimic BYU.

    “Best thing that ever happened to me,” Mumme said of getting fired in El Paso. “I couldn’t get a college job. But we had beat BYU that year, and it kind of opened some doors for me for those guys.”

    Those guys were Lavell Edwards assistants Norm Chow, Roger French and Robbie Bosco. Mumme regularly drove the 900 miles to Provo, Utah, picking their brains about their throw-it-around offense.

    “Hal was here all the time,” Bosco told Tim Layden for his book, “Blood, Sweat and Chalk”.

    ***

    Mumme sat in his Iowa Wesleyan office in 1991, with a dilemma. He had coached the Tigers to a record of 14-9 after two years, but his ’91 team figured to be overmatched in talent. Not that you can get all that overmatched as an NAIA independent, playing the likes of Missouri-Rolla.

    But Mumme liked to win. He wanted to give his team the best chance possible. So he and his lieutenant, an idea man himself by the name of Mike Leach, hatched the plan to run their BYU offense uptempo. No huddle. Go fast.

    “Got stuck with an impossible schedule, so we started playing fast,” Mumme said. “That’s probably been the thing that’s set us apart. Mike Leach actually came up with the term Air Raid. All of a sudden it looked different.”

    ***

    Mumme sat in his office at McMurry University in Abilene, Texas, in 2011, chatting with Dana Holgorsen, one of the great Air Raid legacies. At Houston, OSU and eventually West Virginia, Holgorsen would enhance the Air Raid. New OU coordinator Lincoln Riley, too, adding all kinds of run-game wrinkles.

    That was a little foreign to Mumme and Leach. “Mike (Leach) and I, we always kind of considered runs a wasted play,” Mumme said. Mumme’s Kentucky teams were SEC offensive terrors in the late 1990s, so much so that when Bob Stoops got the Oklahoma job in December 1998, he brought along Leach.

    Mumme’s and Leach’s offenses never slowed. Their coaching careers did. Mumme lost his Kentucky job amid NCAA violation allegations in 2001; Leach lost his Texas Tech job in 2009 amid conflict with university brass. Leach would eventually land at Washington State. Mumme would take the Air Raid to New Mexico State, McMurry and Belhaven.

    But their proteges would live on in more influential places. Houston. College Station. Lubbock. Berkeley. Stillwater. Norman.

    AIR RAID EVOLUTION

    Hal Mumme’s Air Raid offense is ranks among the most unique passing offenses invented over the last 60 years. Here are the notables, with descriptions from Tim Layden’s great book, “Blood, Sweat and Chalk; The Ultimate Football Playbook: How the Great Coaches Built Today’s Game”:

    AIR CORYELL

    • Patriarch: Don Coryell

    • Origin: 1959, Whittier College

    • Disciples: Joe Gibbs, Norv Turner, Mike Martz, Jason Garrett

    • Beneficiaries: San Diego State’s Don Horn, Dennis Shaw and Brian Sipe; St. Louis Cardinals’ Jim Hart; San Diego Chargers’ Dan Fouts; Dallas Cowboys’ Troy Aikman and Tony Romo

    • Description: “Combined technical simplicity with daring downfield strikes written into almost every play. Pass routes were numbered in a basic 1 through 9 ladder. Quarterbacks were instructed to read from deep to short and to get rid of the ball quickly. Formations with four wide receivers became common, and eventually, players in motion became routine.”

    RUN-AND-SHOOT

    • Patriarch: Tiger Ellison

    • Origin: Middletown (Ohio) High School, 1959

    • Disciples: Mouse Davis, Jack Pardee, John Jenkins, June Jones

    • Beneficiaries: Portland State’s Neil Lomax, the Houston Gamblers’ Jim Kelly, Houston U.’s Andre Ware and David Klingler, Houston Oilers’ Warren Moon

    • Description: “All the elemental run-and-shoot plays involved option — or readable — pass routes, where the receiver is reacting to the defense and the quarterback is reading the receiver … Each receiver determines his next cut, based on the reaction of the defense. The quarterback is throwing to a spot where the receiver should be.”

    WEST COAST

    • Patriarch: Bill Walsh

    • Origin: 1970, Cincinnati Bengals

    • Disciples: Mike Holmgren, Sam Wyche, Mike Shanahan

    • Beneficiaries: Cincinnati Bengals’ Ken Anderson, San Francisco 49ers’ Joe Montana, Denver Broncos’ John Elway, Green Bay Packers’ Brett Favre

    • Description: “First pass offense in which timing was the critical element … More emphasis on shorter, more horizontal routes … Before Walsh, the forward pass came with significant risk; since Walsh, it has been a much more reliable chain-moving tool. It was the first offensive system to assign and incorporate … ‘hot’ receivers … into the void vacated by a blitzing linebacker.”

    AIR RAID

    • Patriarch: Hal Mumme

    • Origin: Iowa Wesleyan, 1991

    • Disciples: Mike Leach, Dana Holgorsen, Kevin Sumlin, Kliff Kingsbury, Sonny Dykes, Lincoln Riley

    • Beneficiaries: Kentucky’s Tim Couch, Oklahoma’s Josh Heupel, Houston’s Case Keenum, West Virginia’s Geno Smith, Texas Tech’s Kliff Kingsbury and Graham Harrell

    • Description: “Everything in the (BYU) offense was run from a spread formation, with wide line splits.” Then uptempo, no-huddle was added by Mumme and Leach in 1991, and the Air Raid was born.

    Compiled by Berry Tramel

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    AIR RAID TIMELINE

    A look at the developments that led to the Air Raid offense making a resurgence this season at Oklahoma and Oklahoma State:

    • 1930s: TCU coach Dutch Meyer, with great quarterbacks Davey O’Brien and Sammy Baugh, created the first spread, splitting out his two ends.

    • 1950s: Tiger Ellison, a high school coach in Middletown, Ohio, spread out his linemen and started throwing passes on most downs. Ellison called his offense the run-and-shoot.

    • 1970s: Brigham Young offensive coordinator Doug Scovil, incorporated run-and-shoot formations and concepts to a vertical passing game.

    • 1983: Mouse Davis, offensive coordinator of the USFL’s Houston Gamblers and a run-and-shoot aficionado, visited Texas-El Paso offensive coordinator Hal Mumme. They talked for seven hours, and ideas began exploding in Mumme’s brain.

    • 1986: Mumme is named head coach at Copperas Cove High School in Central Texas and installs the BYU offense.

    • 1989: Mumme is named head coach at Iowa Wesleyan and hires a 30-year-old assistant named Mike Leach.

    • 1991: Facing a tough schedule, Mumme and Leach decide to play uptempo, no-huddle with their BYU offense. The Air Raid was born.

    • 1998: Remembering the 406 passing yards and five TD passes his Florida defense allowed to Leach’s Kentucky offense, new OU head coach Bob Stoops hires Leach as offensive coordinator.

    • 2000: New Texas Tech coach Leach unveils the second Air Raid attack in the Big 12, and the lid is off offenses in the traditionally run-bound league.

    • 2008: Leach disciple Dana Holgorsen is hired as offensive coordinator at Houston U., and Holgorsen adds a run-game emphasis to the Air Raid, which he also took to OSU in 2010 and West Virginia in 2011.

    • 2012: Kevin Sumlin, Holgorsen’s boss at Houston, goes to Texas A&M and inherits quarterback Johnny Manziel, who wins the Heisman Trophy with Sumlin adding QB runs to the Air Raid.

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    AIR RAID TERMINOLOGY

    A few of the classic Air Raid pass routes and plays. Most are from the Hal Mumme/Mike Leach playbook and might have different names in Lincoln Riley’s and Dana Holgorsen’s versions:

    • Hitch: A route in which the receiver runs downfield, stops suddenly and turns around.

    • Corner: A route in which a receiver runs downfield, then makes a diagonal break toward the sideline.

    • Wheel: A route in which a halfback, or possibly a wide receiver in motion, zips to the sideline and heads straight upfield, designed to create confusion from a zone defense that might find its original territory empty.

    • Post: A route similar to a corner, except the receiver breaks off diagonally toward the goal post.

    • Dig: A route in which a receiver breaks off a post route and cuts straight across the field

    • Smash: A two-receiver combination, with the outside receiver on a 6-yard hitch and the inside receiver on a 12-yard corner route. Designed to defeat Cover-2 defenses, in which two safeties play deep and each take half the field.

    • Mesh: Perhaps the most iconic Air Raid play. A receiver on each side runs a short crossing pattern, close enough that defenders have to go around them. Meanwhile, running backs float into the flat on each side, and a wide receiver on one side runs a corner route, which creates a triangle on that side.

    • Shallow Cross: A play in which the two outside receivers run deep, trying to open the field, an inside receiver runs about seven yards upfield and cuts across the middle and the other inside receiver, on the opposite side, goes one yard upfield before cutting across the middle. A halfback darts outside, opposite the inside receiver running the shallow route. The play is designed to open the middle.

    • Four Verts: A play in which four receivers, or three receivers plus a halfback, run straight down the field, forcing a defense, set up to stop the crossing patterns, to get back deep and quickly.

    • Y-Cross: A classic Air Raid play — an outside receiver runs deep, the opposite inside receiver runs a deep cross (almost a corner route from across the field), the other outside receiver runs the dig route into area perhaps opened by the deep cross, while halfbacks flood into the flat on each side.

    • Stick: A basic Air Raid play. An outside receiver goes deep, the inside receiver on the same side runs a “stick” route, 5-6 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, in which he curls into an open void between the linebackers. On the other side, the inside receiver and outside receivers both run slants, as quick options against the blitz.

    • Y-stick: A Dana Holgorsen addition to the Air Raid, with the offensive line blocking a draw play, the two outside receivers going deep and two inside receivers on the same side, one running an out pattern and the other a hitch to the outside of the linebacker, who has to decide between playing the draw or the pass.

    • Shakes: Another play designed to dent the Cover-2. The outside receiver runs a deep corner route, and the inside receiver on his side runs virtually straight down the field, putting pressure on the deep safety on that side. On the other side, the outside receiver runs a deep corner, keeping that safety at home. Each halfback swing into the flat.

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    Why Roman concrete still stands strong while modern version decays
    Scientists have cracked the secret to Roman water-based structures’ strength – and findings could help today’s builders

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jul/04/why-roman-concrete-still-stands-strong-while-modern-version-decays

    Their structures are still standing more than 1,500 years after the last centurion snuffed it: now the Romans’ secret of durable marine concrete has finally been cracked.

    The Roman recipe – a mix of volcanic ash, lime (calcium oxide), seawater and lumps of volcanic rock – held together piers, breakwaters and harbours. Moreover, in contrast to modern materials, the ancient water-based structures became stronger over time.

    Scientists say this is the result of seawater reacting with the volcanic material in the cement and creating new minerals that reinforced the concrete.

    “They spent a tremendous amount of work [on developing] this – they were very, very intelligent people,” said Marie Jackson, a geologist at the University of Utah and co-author of a study into Roman structures.

    As the authors note, the Romans were aware of the virtues of their concrete, with Pliny the Elder waxing lyrical in his Natural History that it is “impregnable to the waves and every day stronger”.

    Now, they say, they’ve worked out why. Writing in the journal American Mineralogist, Jackson and colleagues describe how they analysed concrete cores from Roman piers, breakwaters and harbours.

    Previous work had revealed lime particles within the cores that surprisingly contained the mineral aluminous tobermorite – a rare substance that is hard to make.

    The mineral, said Jackson, formed early in the history of the concrete, as the lime, seawater and volcanic ash of the mortar reacted together in a way that generated heat.

    But now Jackson and the team have made another discovery. “I went back to the concrete and found abundant tobermorite growing through the fabric of the concrete, often in association with phillipsite [another mineral],” she said.

    She said this revealed another process that was also at play. Over time, seawater that seeped through the concrete dissolved the volcanic crystals and glasses, with aluminous tobermorite and phillipsite crystallising in their place.

    These minerals, say the authors, helped to reinforce the concrete, preventing cracks from growing, with structures becoming stronger over time as the minerals grew.

    By contrast, modern concrete, based on Portland cement, is not supposed to change after it hardens – meaning any reactions with the material cause damage.

    Jackson said: “I think [the research] opens up a completely new perspective for how concrete can be made – that what we consider corrosion processes can actually produce extremely beneficial mineral cement and lead to continued resilience, in fact, enhanced perhaps resilience over time.”

    The findings offer clues for a concrete recipe that does not rely on the high temperatures and carbon dioxide production of modern cement, but also providing a blueprint for a durable construction material for use in marine environments. Jackson has previously argued Roman concrete should be used to build the seawall for the Swansea lagoon.

    “There’s many applications but further work is needed to create those mixes. We’ve started but there is a lot of fine-tuning that needs to happen,” said Jackson. “The challenge is to develop methods that use common volcanic products – and that is actually what we are doing right now.”

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