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    More blumenthal:https://www.rt.com/news/422958-israel-gaza-turkey-erdogan-netanyahu/

    Benjamin Netanyahu and Recep Tayyip Erdogan accuse one another of mass human rights crimes and both are correct: neither can claim the moral high ground, both are battling from the depths of depravity, Max Blumenthal told RT.

    Israel is being slammed for how its military is handling ongoing protests at the Gaza border. The annual ‘March of Return’, a demonstration denouncing Israeli occupation, has already left 17 dead and more than a thousand injured, according to the Palestinian Health Ministry.

    World leaders have condemned Israeli actions against the protesters and were blamed for applying double standards by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has launched a blistering attack on Netanyahu, calling Israel “a terrorist state” and its PM “a terrorist,” following the deadly shooting of protesters in Gaza. The Israeli PM subsequently branded the Turkish leader “a butcher.”

    Author Max Blumenthal told RT that it appears like Netanyahu and Erdogan are blaming each other for basically the same things.

    RT: The situation in Gaza has reignited an old Israeli-Turkish dispute. The two sides have already accused each other of being terrorist states. What’s your take on that?

    Max Blumenthal: I am slightly amused by the denunciations exchanged between Benjamin Netanyahu and the Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Both are accusing one another of massive human rights crimes and both are correct that one another has committed gigantic human rights crimes, Netanyahu in Gaza and against the Palestinian people in general, and Erdogan now in Afrin in Syria where over 100,000 have been displaced and there have been thousands of casualties. The irony of this spat between Erdogan and Netanyahu is that since the first real exchange of hostilities between Erdogan and Israel back in 2009, and then after the 2010 massacre of the Turkish activists on the Mavi Marmara flotilla on the way to Gaza, Turkey and Israel have substantially normalized relations and enjoy a lot of economic ties and even military ties as well. This is just hot air in rhetoric between two leaders who are really vying for dominance in the Middle East.

    RT: Why do they appear to use almost identical accusations to describe each other, but in one case over Afrin, the other on Gaza. Do they both have a point, they both fight terror, yet both face widespread accusations of highly questionable actions?

    MB: I compared this spat between Netanyahu and Erdogan to the 2004 film ‘Alien vs. Predator’ where two monsters battle one another to the death. In real life, as I mentioned, Netanyahu and Erdogan are cooperating below the surface. Neither man can claim the moral high ground. So, both are basically battling from the moral depth of depravity. And basically what each one is doing is catering to their right-wing base. Erdogan in Turkey with his right-wing Islamist AKP party. And Netanyahu in Israel with his right-wing Likud party. And this has been Erdogan’s strategy. Erdogan is also speaking beyond Turkey trying to present himself as a leader of the Islamic world and the defender of the Palestinians. But he has substantially abandoned Gaza in many ways and he has done very little in practical terms for the liberation of Palestinians or for the relief of the 11-year-old siege on Gaza.

    RT: Do you think Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman is fair to argue that the international community should first investigate all the deaths in Syria, Sudan, and Libya and only then shift attention to Gaza?
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    MB: There is enormous irony here in Israel and its allies and their reaction to what was nothing short of a massacre of unarmed protesters marching against an 11-year-old siege, living in one of the worst humanitarian situations in the world. The UN has found that Gaza will be unlivable within two years. I was just in the Gaza Strip and I found that to be the case for many people – there just simply isn’t enough money or any economy for people to afford food. Food insecurity affects over 50 percent of the population. People are marching against that and they were shot down by over 100 Israeli snipers, they received artillery fire from tanks. Israel even tested a drone that dropped tear gas from the sky. And now we hear the Israeli defense minister declaring that the international community has no right to condemn this massacre. What is more, we saw Nikki Haley, the [American] UN ambassador who got up and showed pictures of dead Syrian children in Khan Shaykhun and delivered a bravado performance in April, 2017, demanding military intervention in Syria. Nikki Haley personally killed a UN resolution to condemn Israel for this massacre. So, the hypocrisy by Israel and its allies, particularly the US, is astounding in this case and it is a hypocrisy that contrasts [with] their behavior towards human rights violations in Syria, towards those committed by their client in Israel.

    RT: Do you believe the UN call for investigation of Gaza violence is hypocritical, as Israel claims?

    MB: The Israeli claim of hypocrisy by the UN is rhetoric we’ve been hearing from the country that has received the most condemnations from the UN in the world. And it is a country that consistently finds protection on the Security Council from the US. The hypocrisy that we’ve witnessed is really coming from the US and Israel because the US has protected Israel again and again against human rights violations while accusing the countries that it seeks regime change in – from North Korea, to Syria, to Iran – of massive human rights violations and seeks resolutions condemning them in many cases for defending against Western-led proxy wars and plots to overthrow their governments. So, the hypocrisy is really on the other side in this case.

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    Predictably this is just not getting press.

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    Debunking Israel’s Talking Points on Deadly Gaza Protests

    Hamas is not Gaza and Gaza is not Hamas. Civilian Gazans’ willingness to walk to that fence is not a measure of their support for Hamas. It measures their yearning to express themselves as humans and claim their freedom, even at immediate risk.

    Marilyn Garson, Ha’aretz

    Marilyn Garson worked with communities affected by war from 1998 to 2015, including in the Gaza Strip from 2011 to 2015. She writes from New Zealand. Her blog is Transforming Gaza. Twitter: @skinonbothsides

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/debunking-israel-s-talking-points-on-deadly-gaza-protests-1.5963880

    In 1988 at the gates of Jerusalem’s Old City, I watched Palestinian youths face down Israeli soldiers. The soldiers held rifles, while the Palestinians held stones. That asymmetry sent the Judaism of my childhood crashing headlong into my sense of justice. The stones demanded that I ask, “What could make a young man risk his life this way?”

    My work with war-affected communities later brought me to the Gaza Strip. Living there from 2011 to 2015, I confronted Israel’s power from the ground.

    On Friday, Land Day, unarmed Gazans confronted this power once more; they were commemorating the six unarmed protesters who were killed 42 years ago in 1976 as they protested the expropriation of Arab-owned land in northern Israel. Organizers in Gaza had called for a season of nonviolent protest lasting until the day of the so-called Nakba, when Palestinians mourn the losses of 1948, asserting the rights of refugees who comprise the majority of Gaza’s population.

    Tens of thousands of Gazans walked toward the border facing a heavily armed Israeli line. They walked toward rifles and drones. Israel had announced its deployment of a hundred snipers authorized to use live ammunition. And fire they did; the United Nations reports 15 dead and 1,416 wounded, including 750 hit by live ammunition, of whom 20 are in critical condition.

    Gazans walked into all that, demanding that we ask, “What is happening in Gaza to make them risk their lives?” That is the bedrock question. Layers of language are being heaped upon it, to obscure it.

    Even before the protest began, Israeli spokespeople framed it preemptively as a Hamas production. If the march is merely Hamas’ political positioning, they imply, there is no need to seek a deeper understanding.

    However, Hamas is not Gaza and Gaza is not Hamas. Civilian Gazans’ willingness to walk to that fence is not a measure of their support for Hamas. It measures their yearning to express themselves as humans and claim their freedom, even at immediate risk.

    Benjamin Netanyahu presented the killings as the defense of Israel’s border. However, a border is an agreed line. This line is the unilateral, military demarcation of an illegal blockade.

    The Israeli army additionally militarizes a belt of Gaza’s agricultural land, intruding a further 300 to 500 meters into Gaza. That is the zone in which live fire is being used. Gazans are walking and being killed, on their own land. Walking in protest is not a capital crime in other places, and human rights group B’Tselem calls Israel’s attempt to control the Gaza protest with live fire “absurd.”

    Netanyahu declared his policy of “war on stone-throwers” in 2015, arguing that a stone justifies the use of deadly force. Perhaps to Humpty Dumpty it does. However, since those nights of the 2014 war, when Israel rained bombs onto Gaza each minute, I have wanted to ask him exactly how much deadly force is needed to justify a stone.

    At the moment, the stones detract from the greater power of unarmed Gazans, walking.

    Israeli voices have justified even the country’s most grievous violence against Gaza as being necessary to safeguard Israelis’ normal lives. Normal? Two million Palestinians exist behind a wall, deprived of their fundamental rights to clean water, health, work, mobility. They are held in place by a structural violence that has become Israel’s lifestyle, propped up by law, dehumanizing rhetoric, politics and arms.

    The failure to resolve the Palestinian conflict has helped to make Israel the most militarized country on earth. It is that choice that the violence protects, and there’s nothing normal about it.

    Chemi Shalev fears “preposterous” comparisons to Birmingham, Alabama and apartheid South Africa, if these protests “compel the IDF to kill and maim unarmed civilians.” No one is compelling the IDF to kill.

    Gaza doesn’t need to be Birmingham or Soweto to learn from them. When entrenched injustice refuses to right itself, mass nonviolent protest can help build and broaden the pressure that upends systemic wrongs.

    To understand why Gazans are willing to pit their bodies against an army, peel away the political positioning on all sides. Instead ask, “What quality of life has convinced tens of thousands of human beings that such danger represents their best hope – and why aren’t they allowed to walk?”

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