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    zn
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    #84195
    nittany ram
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    An alternate headline could be…

    ‘Diabolical whale denies starving shark of life-sustaining snorkeler meat.’

    #84199
    zn
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    An alternate headline could be…

    ‘Diabolical whale denies starving shark of life-sustaining snorkeler meat.’

    But that would have made for a very different video.

    And of course it completely stands to reason that the whale would know that.

    #84204
    wv
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    Well assuming the Whale actually thought about it and protected the diver,
    how do we account for that?

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    #84208
    zn
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    Well assuming the Whale actually thought about it and protected the diver,
    how do we account for that?

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    Maybe people evoke “they;re like our babies” responses in whales the way dogs do with humans.

    from: https://www.livescience.com/61380-humpback-whale-saves-diver-video.html

    Aquatic altruists

    This is not the first time a humpback whale has been observed intervening in a would-be marine ambush — in fact, the humpback’s so-called “altruism” is well-documented.

    In 2009, for example, marine biologist Robert Pitman a whale shield a seal from a group of hungry killer whales.

    Pitman went on to analyze 115 interactions between humpbacks and killer whales between 1951 and 2012, and determined the act of seal-saving derring-do he witnessed was hardly a freak occurrence. Humpbacks, Pitman wrote, frequently band together and sometimes travel great distances to interrupt killer whale attacks, regardless of what type of animal the orca is attacking.

    The humpback’s shielding impulse likely comes from an instinct to protect its own calves from predators, Pitman said. Because massive humpbacks have little to fear from orcas, the risk of intervening in or even initiating a may be well worth the risk.

    “A simple behavioral rule like ‘interfere with attacking killer whales’ may prevent a related calf from being killed,” Pitman previously told Live Science, “and it may also help out other species at times. I think we need to consider the possibility that altruism can be unintentional and arise out of self-interest.”

    Researchers again caught a glimpse of a humpback’s seeming altruism in May 2017, when a group of orcas were stalking some baby gray whales off Monterey Bay in California.

    Hauser thinks it’s likely that the whale that head-butted her was similarly trying to protect her from the predator in their midst (she later learned that, while one humpback was focused on her, another was swatting the water near the tiger shark, seemingly keeping it at bay). However, this marks the first known instance of a humpback intervening to shield a human from a shark, Hauser said.

    #84210
    wv
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    Well, i would prefer to think the Whale just ‘liked’ the diver.

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    #84217
    nittany ram
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    “I think we need to consider the possibility that altruism can be unintentional and arise out of self-interest.”

    I read something written by a marine biologist once about the stories of dolphins “saving” downed pilots by pushing them towards shore. He said that he also doubted that the dolphins were really trying to rescue the pilots.

    He noted that cetaceans are highly intelligent and playful. He thought it was possible that the dolphins saw the pilots as toys and that pushing them through the water was a type of play behavior. He noted that this behavior can be seen with inanimate objects as well. Dolphins will spend hours delightfully pushing stuff around.

    He thought it likely that for every pilot pushed towards shore, many others were pushed away from shore.

    Of course, only the pilots that were pushed towards shore lived to tell the tale about how they were ‘rescued’ by dolphins.

    #84224
    zn
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    DOLPHINS RESCUING HUMANS

    link: http://www.dolphins-world.com/dolphins-rescuing-humans/

    If you’ve heard a story about dolphins rescuing a person at the ocean, you’re not the only one. For thousands of years, dolphins have interacted with humans in several ways that most animals do not. For example, what other animal helps fishers do their job? The intelligence of these cetaceans, highly developed and similar in some aspects to that of humans, places them in a position that no other species have.
    A quick glance in the media shows a considerable amount of people who claims to have lived an incredible experience, in which a dolphin or a group of dolphins saves them from the danger that the sea involves, even without realizing it. Do you want to know some?
    Why saving humans if they are different species? There are some theories.
    A FEW STORIES
    In 2002, a 36-year-old Australian man named Grant Dickson was fishing in northern Queensland along with other people. Hours later the vessel collapsed in the water, and Dickson found himself alone in the middle of the ocean, holding only to the remainings of the boat. He had some wounds bleeding profusely, and with horror, he discovered a group of sharks swimming around him. However, he watched with amazement how a pod of dolphins began to circle him, scaring away the sharks they might have attacked them by confusing his legs with some prey because of the blood. In the end, Grant Dickson was rescued safe and sound.
    In 2004, a group of lifeguards and a young woman from New Zealand were training at sea when a white shark (Carcharodon carcharias) about 3 meters in length suddenly appeared in front of them. But fortunately soon a small pod of dolphins arrived surrounding the group and the woman. They waved their tails and created lots of noise to dissuade the shark from attack them until it decided to go away.
    Todd Endris, a 24-year-old surfer, was practicing his favorite sport on August 28, 2007. He could not imagine that moments later a great white shark was going to wallop him and then gave him two severe bites. The terrified young man saw his death close when suddenly about 15 bottlenose dolphins (Tursiops truncatus) appeared and surrounded him to form a barrier between him and the shark. This protection allowed Todd to get safely to the shore, although with severe wounds from what he later recovered.
    Hardy Jones is a wildlife activist. In 2003 he was filming a pod of dolphins when he realized that a shark approached him. Maybe he would have to get attacked if four dolphins had not approached to protect him.
    In 2004, five British scuba divers were adrift in the Red Sea with no more company than the animals around. They feared dying right there until a boat rescued them. They believe that dolphins deserve their gratitude since the crew of the rescuing boat said they saw a group of these cetaceans swimming in the direction of divers, probably to draw attention to that place.
    WHY DO DOLPHINS RESCUE PEOPLE?
    Dolphins show behaviors at times similar to that of humans. In the wild they usually help the sick pod mates, supporting them to reach the surface so they can breathe. Females are loving mothers devoted to their offspring while they feed on breast milk and even long time after weaning.
    But, why do dolphins save humans, if they are a different species? Many theories exists that try to explain the reason, but until now none is widely accepted.
    Researchers think that sometimes the relationship between humans and dolphins have nothing to do with empathy and rather it is a symbiotic relationship of help-reward. A sample of this is the case of dolphins which help fishers to find fish or other prey since, in the end, these cetaceans receive a portion of the fish obtained. The question here is why did they begin to do this if no one taught them?
    The act of defending humans from an animal that can attack them, like sharks, is similar to the behavior of mothers protecting their offspring. Many disabled swimmers or divers claim that were held and transported to the surface with the aid of a dolphin, action used with other cetaceans.
    Another explanation may be related to the comparison between body characteristics of dolphins and humans since both are intelligent mammals. Thanks to its sense of echolocation, a dolphin can hear the heartbeat and realize when a person is helpless. It is the moment when they act as they would do it with a mate.
    There are only two cetacean attacks on record against people, one from a killer whale that confused a surfboard for a seal and the other by a cranky dolphin mother who had just given birth and its calf was taken away from her.
    DOLPHIN HEROES
    In Greek and old sea stories, there are dozens of claims of dolphins helping drowning sailors, rescuing people from sharks, and making themselves useful as guides through treacherous waters.
    Dolphins and other cetaceans also help injured members of their family groups and newborn babies to the surface by swimming under them and nudging upward, just as some reports describe them doing with humans. Interestingly, there are some real stories of dolphins helping other cetaceans. In 1983 at Tokerau Beach, Northland, New Zealand, a pod of pilot whales ran aground during ebb tide. The Zealanders who lived there came out and did their best to keep the whales alive, sponging their skin and calming them, until the tide came back in. But even then the whales were having trouble orienting themselves.
    Dolphins came to the rescue. Somehow, a pod of dolphins who were nearby figured out what was happening. They swam into the shallows, putting themselves at risk, and “herded” the pilot whales out to sea, saving 76 of 80 whales. Five years earlier, a similar incident had occurred at Whangarei harbor. If dolphins are smart enough to help other cetaceans in that manner, why not humans.
    OTHER CASES
    Several years ago, in the Gulf of Akaba, a British tourist was rescued by three dolphins from sharks. Near the Sinai Peninsula, a ship captain had stopped his boat so several passengers could watch dolphins playing. Three of the passengers decided to swim with them, and one stayed a little longer than the others. To his horror, he was bitten by a shark – and more were coming. Suddenly, three dolphins placed themselves between the tourist and the sharks, smacking the water with their tails and flippers, driving the sharks off until the crew rescued the man.
    In 2004, a ten-foot great white shark confronted a group of swimmers off the northern coast of new Zealand. A pod of dolphins “herded” them together, circling them until the great white fled. There are several other examples from the area of Australia about similar incidences.
    In another case in the Red Sea, twelve divers lost for thirteen and a half hours were surrounded by dolphins for the entire time, repelling the many sharks that live in the area. When a rescue boat appeared, it seemed that the dolphins were showing them where the divers were, leaping in the air in front of them.
    As we can’t talk to dolphins, we can’t understand what their motives are in these situations. It is, however, very possible that they are indeed trying to help and protect fellow mammals in the ocean to safety. If this is true, it means that they are the only animals, besides humans, which show true altruism.

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