Cosell on qbs (vid) … does Goff at 8:31 in

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  • #71904
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    #71911
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    Well shit, that wasn’t very positive

    #71912
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    Well shit, that wasn’t very positive

    Here’s my take on it.

    Toughness is one of the things that is routinely said about him by BOTH college and pro coaches and players who played with him.

    I can think of a thousand things that account for the erratic plays GS describes before I would even consider (and then reject) toughness as one of them.

    Cosell has typical limitations..

    1 is, he never accounts for context and situation. He just looks at physical skills and execution.

    2 is, he will often leap to conclusions about the player’s mindset. Often those are completely arbitrary.

    So for example, we have this green qb who has to learn how to read defenses at the NFL level, and he predictably proves to be spotty at this. That’s on top of the fact that everyone he plays knowing the Rams do not have a running game. He also didn’t have, as a rookie, the ability to make effective pre-snap reads and do something constructive about them (audible, change protections, see where the likely hot read will be open). And GS concludes that it’s a mental issue (toughness). Based on what? His considerable mindreading powers? I just think it’s an especially green rookie under challenging circumstances.

    When Cosell just sticks to describing execution and physical style of play, he’s always illuminating.

    But sometimes he doesn’t stick to that. And more often than not, where he goes when he goes past his real skill set as an evaluator, is just not always that insightful or valid.

    And that’s GRANTING that Goff the college Air Raid qb had a long ways to go to be NFL caliber.

    #71928
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    well. we’ll find out. by the end of the season, we’ll have a decent idea of what the rams have at qb. or at least mcvay will.

    #71930
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    i do agree about the toughness. i think goff has it. i think the problem is processing the information in front of him. that’s just being overwhelmed. hopefully, mcvay simplifies that for him. but yeah. i think the kid is tough enough.

    #71971
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    I don’t think rookie Tom Brady pushed into that middle school offense full of players that thought they got that season off because of the move, full of receivers with the worst drop percentage in league would do any better. That said if it becomes clear Goff can’t handle the job I couldn’t take another Tony Banks length tryout . We need to win and soon. I’m not saying playoffs but at least .500 and be competitive

    #71972
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    That said if it becomes clear Goff can’t handle the job I couldn’t take another Tony Banks length tryout .

    i have no doubt mcvay will pull goff if it’s clear he isn’t the guy. and it won’t take long.

    my bet is he’s got one season to prove it. and if he isn’t rams go after cousins if he’s available.

    #71981
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    Well depends on what you mean by prove it. Show progress and the ability to develop? Win a lot? Either way you would think McVay knows what he’s looking for.

    #71983
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    Well depends on what you mean by prove it. Show progress and the ability to develop? Win a lot? Either way you would think McVay knows what he’s looking for.

    i think the ability to prove he can be a starting qb.

    specifically i have no idea. but yeah. i’m sure mcvay knows. and he’ll be around him every day. i think he’ll know by the end of the year.

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