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  • #67197
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    as far as the inside backers go, i think wade will make adjustments to play to ogletree and barron’s strengths. it might be closer to the cardinals’ d than the broncos’. not sure. i guess we’ll see.

    wade is known for being flexible from what i’ve read. and he will have to be because the personnel isn’t going to be exactly the same as what he had at denver. especially in the front seven.

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    jrry32, wrote:

    Phillips has made a career out of transitioning 4-3 defenses to the 3-4. Yet, he has been successful in pretty much every destination during his career. I’m not concerned. The system isn’t that different from GW’s. It might actually be better because it’s simpler and relies more on the “see ball get ball” principle. It’s far less complicated and far more about attacking.

    The reality is that our three down lineman are all interior DLs.

    Basically, Wade’s defense often aligns the strong-side DE as the 5-tech and the weak-side DE as the 3-tech. That means both the LDE and RDE (Donald) will see time as 5-techs and 3-techs. Wade also will sometimes pinch the strong-side DE inside. The NT usually aligns as a 0-tech shaded towards the strong-side but sometimes aligns as a 1-technique towards the strong-side depending on the strength of the formation.

    It remains to be seen where Brockers will play. My expectation is that Wade will play Brockers wherever he needs to play him to get the best three players on the field. Wade has played guys like him at both LDE and NT. He could play either one in this scheme. Brockers is not a natural 3-4 NT. His height makes him a poor fit for the traditional 3-4 NT role. He can work in Wade’s defense because it’s not a read and react scheme that asks him to two-gap. In most 3-4 defenses, Brockers would be a DE. In this defense, if we have a guy who best fits at NT, Brockers will play DE. If we have a guy who best fits at DE, Brockers will play NT.

    I also have strong doubts that we plan to go into the year with Easley as the starting LDE.

    Barron was a better run defender in 2016 imo. He got more splash plays in 2015 because we were typically sending him on run blitzes. Barron is new to LB, so there were hiccups, but he wasn’t a bad run defender. We mainly got gashed in games where our defensive line was hurting due to injuries. There wasn’t much anybody could do about that. In 2017 the extra size on the field should reduce traffic for Barron since we’ll essentially have 5 DLs.

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    i’m curious as to what phillips does with donald.

    what adjustments does he make to play to his strengths. i don’t think he quite had anyone in denver who could compare to donald in terms of skill set.

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    i’m curious as to what phillips does with donald.

    what adjustments does he make to play to his strengths. i don’t think he quite had anyone in denver who could compare to donald in terms of skill set.

    That’s true about Donald. The strength in the Denver front 7 was at OLBs. Their weakness (relatively speaking for a defense that achieved NFL historical level results) was the DL. Not that the Rams OLBs are bad–if Quinn and Barwin can play, then, they ought to be fine. But the Rams strength of course is potentially the DL.

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    Donald, Ogletree Ready to Lead Defensive Transition to 3-4

    By Myles Simmons

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Donald-Ogletree-Ready-to-Lead-Defensive-Transition-to-3-4/fe1dd358-4f3d-47c6-9df3-fdee5c2de6fe

    When it comes to the Rams’ new staff and schemes, most of the attention has gone to the offense head coach Sean McVay will implement. But there are changes coming to the defense as well, with coordinator Wade Phillips transitioning the unit to a 3-4 base set.

    While having three down linemen and four linebackers in the club’s front seven will be an adjustment, McVay has said the club will remain a one-gap, aggressive, penetrating defense — which is largely what it was under former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. But in a 4-3, the offense knows the four down linemen will pass rush. As Phillips has explained, the difference with his 3-4 is that from play-to-play, offenses don’t know where the fourth pass rusher is coming from.

    “It’s a 3-4, but it’s still a nose tackle, it’s still a three technique, and things like that,” defensive tackle Aaron Donaldsaid Monday. “It’s called a 3-4 because, I guess the guys on the side” — outside linebackers — “are standing. But like I said, it’s the same for us. We’re still doing what we’re doing, penetrating, getting up field, and trying to make plays in the backfield.”

    When it comes to implementing the scheme, Donald and middle linebacker Alec Ogletree will likely be at the forefront, as last year’s defensive captains. That goes especially for Ogletree as the unit’s signal-caller at middle linebacker.

    “I feel a great deal of responsibility,” Ogletree said. “In my first year starting at middle linebacker, that’s what I did — I took pride in getting ahead of the curve and trying to learn as much as I can before the meetings actually took place. I tried to do that this offseason as well, to learn a couple of things here and there before the first day we get here.”

    Ogletree also noted how excited he is to get familiar with the scheme, which should give him and fellow linebacker Mark Barron plenty of opportunities to make plays.

    “I don’t know a ton about this defense, but I’ve actually played a little bit in college. I guess with Gregg Williams last year, we kind of would interchange as far as 3-4 and 4-3,” Ogletree said. “With this defense, it’s definitely going to open up a lot of guys on the front end to have one-on-one pass rush [and have] me and the other linebacker, Mark, to be in coverage and help rush also.”

    Donald also played a bit of 3-4 in college his sophomore year, describing the schemes from then and now as comparable.

    “It was a 3-4, but really a 4-3,” Donald said. “I played a little bit of end. I moved around a lot, so I’m used to it.”

    The defensive tackle will still be a three-technique in the base set — a position where he’s become arguably the best in the game.

    “Same thing, [I’m] still going to be a three technique, and still penetrate, get up field type of guy,” Donald said. “I got to come here during the offseason and go to sit down and talk with [Phillips]. I like his game plan and how he’s going to use us, and the position he’s going to put us in to have success, and try to make plays, and try to win games.”

    Could Donald move around on the line like he did in college?

    “We’re going to see. I’m comfortable wherever he puts me,” Donald said. “Like I always say, rushing the passer – it doesn’t matter if it’s outside, inside, nose tackle, I can do it. I did it before, so I’m just comfortable wherever he puts me.”

    Either way, having the chance to play under a legendary coach like Phillips is exciting for the defense as a whole.

    “He’s coached a lot of big time players, and he’s one of the best to do it,” Donald said. “Anytime you go from one great defensive coordinator in Gregg, and then go to another one, it just makes me a better football player.”

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    Aaron Donald, Alec Ogletree not concerned about Rams’ switch to 3-4

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/33520/aaron-donald-alec-ogletree-not-concerned-about-rams-switch-to-3-4

    LOS ANGELES — One of the first questions raised when Wade Phillips became the Los Angeles Rams’ defensive coordinator centered on what the shift to a 3-4 scheme would mean for Aaron Donald, the game’s best interior pass-rusher by a wide margin.

    Well …

    “Same thing,” Donald said Monday, the first day of the Rams’ offseason program. “I’m still going to be a 3-technique; still a penetrate, get-up-field type of guy. I got to come here during the offseason and got to sit down and talk with him. I like his game plan and how he’s going to use us, and the position he’s going to put us in to have success.”

    Since landing in the NFL in 1976, Phillips has been part of 20 top-10 defenses and has coached 30 Pro Bowlers, five of whom are in the Hall of Fame. And in each of his past six stops as a defensive coordinator, the 69-year-old has overseen drastic improvement. When he took over the Broncos the first time, they went from 27th to fourth in DVOA — defense-adjusted value over average, a measure of a team’s efficiency — in one season. The Bills went from 19th to 10th; the Falcons 26th to 12th; the Chargers 30th to 13th; the Texans 31st to sixth; the Broncos, a second time, fourth to first.

    “The guy is a legend coach,” Alec Ogletree said. “For me, as a young linebacker, to be under a guy like him is definitely going to help me out a lot.”

    Despite switching from Gregg Williams’ 4-3 to Phillips’ 3-4, most of the Rams’ defensive responsibilities are expected to remain the same. Phillips’ defense will still feature a one-gap penetrating front. Donald will continue to line up on the outside shoulder of the left guard as a 3-technique. And it’ll still be Robert Quinn lining up next to him. The 3-4 set consists of three down linemen and four linebackers, so Quinn will technically be a weakside linebacker and will no longer operate out of a three-point stance.

    “But he’s a rush player,” Rams coach Sean McVay said, using retired former Broncos outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware as an example.

    “From my understanding, what we’re going to ask him to do is going to be pretty much the same — do you and do your ‘Bernie,'” Ogletree said, referencing Quinn’s “Bernie Lean” sack dance. “It’ll be good.”

    For 3-4 sets, the Rams still need to identify a third defensive lineman who will get the majority of the snaps as a 5-technique on the edge, a choice that will probably come down to Dominique Easley, Ethan Westbrooks and the recently signed Tyrunn Walker. But in substitution packages, which now are on the field the majority of the time, it’ll be Quinn and outside linebacker Connor Barwin acting as defensive ends, with Donald and Michael Brockers — still a 1-technique playing between the center and guard — on the interior.

    It’ll be interesting to see how Phillips ultimately uses his two inside linebackers, however. Ogletree and Mark Barron are both athletic, converted safeties who don’t necessarily fit the prototypical mold of a big-bodied, two-down inside linebacker who can plug the run and play the Mike spot. But Ogletree transitioned to the Mike as the middle linebacker in Williams’ 4-3 scheme last season and performed well enough.

    Regardless, Ogletree believes Phillips’ defense is “definitely going to open up a lot of guys on the front end to have one-on-one pass rush.”

    The Rams’ offense has been a disaster, but they have premier talent on defense, even if a lot of their key players are now less than a year away from free agency. Despite finishing 4-12 and suffering a string of blowouts late in the season, the Rams were still 15th in defensive DVOA in 2016. In 2015, they ranked seventh.

    The 3-4 should still highlight their best players’ strengths, particularly the front seven.

    “It’s a 3-4, but it’s still a nose tackle, it’s still a 3-technique and things like that,” Donald said. “It’s called a 3-4 because I guess the guys on the side are standing, but it’s the same for us. We’re still doing what we’re doing: penetrating, getting up field and trying to make plays in the backfield.”

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    QUOTED FROM THE LAST POST ABOVE: Since landing in the NFL in 1976, Phillips has been part of 20 top-10 defenses and has coached 30 Pro Bowlers, five of whom are in the Hall of Fame. And in each of his past six stops as a defensive coordinator, the 69-year-old has overseen drastic improvement. When he took over the Broncos the first time, they went from 27th to fourth in DVOA — defense-adjusted value over average, a measure of a team’s efficiency — in one season. The Bills went from 19th to 10th; the Falcons 26th to 12th; the Chargers 30th to 13th; the Texans 31st to sixth; the Broncos, a second time, fourth to first.

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    When he took over the Broncos the first time, they went from 27th to fourth in DVOA — defense-adjusted value over average, a measure of a team’s efficiency — in one season. The Bills went from 19th to 10th; the Falcons 26th to 12th; the Chargers 30th to 13th; the Texans 31st to sixth; the Broncos, a second time, fourth to first.

    yeah i could see this defense becoming top 5.

    especially if the offense can make any kind of improvement.

    lots of guys in their prime years.

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    from What It Means: Rams Hire Wade Phillips to be Defensive Coordinator

    By John Turney

    http://nflfootballjournal.blogspot.com/2017/01/what-it-means-rams-hire-wade-phillips.html

    This is what will be used in Los Angeles. The end here is a 3-technique and has one gap to control. The nose is in a shade alignment and the weak end or open end in a 5-technique, all one-gap assignments since this is a 3-4 one-gap system when aligned this way. It is no different that a 4-3 undershifted defense.


    What Phillips can and will likely do is switch Aaron Donald from side to side and always play the 3-technque. Michael Brockers can stay as a shade technique, which he has been playing since 2014. Robert Quinn does not have to stand up, he can play with his hand in the dirt and play the Will position. Alec Ogletree will remain the Mike and Mark Barron can play the Mo backer, which Phillips says is more of the “coverage linebacker”.

    In an era where almost all offensive and defensive schemes are hybrids, borrowing from other schemes and melded together the 3-4 one gap won’t hurt what the Rams vaunted defensive line can do. There may be questions here and there as to whether Quinn, when called upon, can cover, which he will have to do a little bit to mix up games and stunts and blitzes that are needed in trying to confuse NFL offenses.

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    Blue and Gold wrote:

    Wade said that he’s going to keep Aaron Donald as a pure 3-tech, so he will go from side to side, depending on the line call. Brockers will remain a 1-tech(shade) on the center. So, the tackles will not change. The player opposite Donald will usually be in a 5-tech (maybe a tight 5) or sometimes A 4-tech (head up on the tackle).

    Easley can back up the 5-tech and 3-tech and maybe even spell Brockers on the nose, though that’s not his forte. They sigend a kid from 49ers who will have chance to be backup to Brockers.

    Westbrooks, I think, is penciled in as the 5-tech and he will have to switch sides, go the opposite side as Donald.

    the LBers, one will be a DE on any given play and one will be a LBer and that can switch given the call.

    In nickel both OLBer will be DEs and Donald will be one DT, I’d guess Easley will be the other, but the 4 best pass rushers will have their hands in the dirt..so if Westrbooks steps up he could secure a spot in the nickel DL

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    Wade Phillips’ 3-4 scheme might not be a big adjustment for Rams

    By Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/32938/wade-phillips-3-4-scheme-may-not-be-a-big-adjustment-for-rams

    LOS ANGELES — Wade Phillips wore his Super Bowl ring as he made the rounds in Houston last week. As he did interviews, Phillips explained that the Denver Broncos, his former team, were defending champions right up until the end of Super Bowl LI. And though their one-year reign ended with the Patriots, who beat the Falcons by orchestrating the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history, Phillips is bringing a championship pedigree with him to the West Coast, as the Los Angeles Rams’ new defensive coordinator.

    Phillips, 69, was the first hire made by 31-year-old rookie head coach Sean McVay. Phillips has nine seasons as a full-time head coach and was a defensive coordinator for 25 other seasons. Since joining the NFL in 1976, Phillips has been part of 20 top-10 defenses and coached 30 Pro Bowlers, five of whom are in the Hall of Fame. And in each of his last six stops as a defensive coordinator, Phillips has overseen drastic improvement. When he took over the Broncos the first time, they went from 27th to fourth in DVOA in one season. The Bills went 19th to 10th; the Falcons: 26th to 12th; Chargers, 30th to 13th; and Texans: 31st to sixth.

    In his second stint with the Broncos, they went from fourth to first.

    Phillips’ Broncos were the NFL’s best defense each of the last two seasons, one of which ended in that Super Bowl 50 title. Though perhaps not as dynamic and deep, Phillips inherits another solid defense with the Rams, led by arguably the game’s best interior lineman in Aaron Donald. Phillips will convert the unit from a 4-3 to a 3-4, but it might not be all that different.

    We’ll isolate three key traits from Phillips’ defense in Denver in 2015 to ’16. You can find the same for McVay’s offense with the Washington Redskins in this post.

    A 3-4 that acts like a 4-3

    A lot has been made about the Rams going from four down linemen to three under Phillips, but Phillips himself has stressed that “those who can rush are going to rush.”

    Under Phillips these last two years, the Broncos used three pass-rushers on only 41 offensive snaps, lower than all but four teams during that time. ESPN Stats & Info has the Broncos ranking fourth in the amount of times they utilized five pass-rushers during that stretch, slightly more than Gregg Williams’ defense with the Rams. But ESPN Broncos reporter Jeff Legwold, who charts every defensive play, will tell you that Phillips used four pass-rushers the vast majority of the time, continually varying which linebacker he used to get to the quarterback.

    For the Rams, it seems like that extra rusher will mainly be Robert Quinn, a two-time Pro Bowler who will probably transition from defensive end to outside linebacker. In all likelihood, Quinn will still spend most of his time trying to get around the edge to get to the quarterback. And nothing will change for Donald; he will remain a three-technique, which means he will continue to line up on the outside shoulder of the opposing guard.

    Below are a couple of looks at how Phillips lined his defense up early in Week 4 against the Buccaneers this past season. The first is a first-down situation early in the game, where you’ll notice a three-technique down lineman and two outside linebackers at the line of scrimmage ready to rush (or, because it eventually became a run to the outside, contain the outside).

    It’s pretty easy to picture the four to the left being Quinn, Donald, Michael Brockers and William Hayes, respectively. On the very next play, 2nd-and-9, Bucs quarterback Jameis Winston lined up in the shotgun and Phillips used one of his linebackers in coverage. He still had a rushing linebacker, a three-technique and two other down linemen, essentially serving the purpose of a 4-3.

    Lots of man coverage

    The main reason Phillips was able to be so aggressive and unpredictable with his pass-rush was because he had the defensive backs who could play man coverage and at times be left on an island. Phillips would be inclined to mix in zone concepts at various places on the field if he didn’t have the cover corners, but most of the time — with Aqib Talib and Chris Harris Jr. on the outside — he did.

    The Broncos were one of only three teams — along with the Texans and Vikings — to allow just one regular-season game of 300 or more passing yards over the last two seasons. They ranked first in DVOA against the pass in each of those seasons. The Rams, who mainly used five defensive backs, slipped to 20th in 2016. Their top three cornerbacks outside of Trumaine Johnson, a pending free agent, are no taller than 5-foot-10.

    Phillips might have to play a lot more zone in L.A.

    Adjusting to the opponent

    The Broncos won it all last year largely because of the way Phillips adjusted. It’s evident in the way he navigated the last two games, the AFC Championship against the Patriots and the Super Bowl against the Panthers.

    The Broncos couldn’t have faced two more different offenses.

    The Patriots focused mostly on Tom Brady getting rid of the football quickly, using an assortment of short to intermediate routes that gained chunk yardage. The Panthers featured a dynamic running game — with running back Jonathan Stewart and quarterback Cam Newton — and also liked to throw the ball downfield, often using max protection to give Newton enough time in the pocket.

    Against the Patriots, Phillips disguised pass rushes without being so aggressive that his defensive backs were too often in space. On Cover-2 looks, his safeties were aggressive attacking short throws, which allowed them to sustain the Patriots’ assortment of pick plays, as pointed out by Cian Fahey in this Football Outsiders post. Below is an example of a second-down stop on a short route that eventually led to a punt, with the safety’s pursuit highlighted …

    In the Super Bowl, Phillips got aggressive. Newton is probably the NFL’s most athletic quarterback, but Phillips noticed that he would rather sit in the pocket than scramble, as noted by Andy Benoit of MMQB.com. His biggest decision was what to do with his extra defender, who would be on either a tight end or a fullback who would be used frequently to help an inadequate offensive line. Phillips decided to blitz that extra defender, putting constant pressure on Newton and allowing some of his best pass rushers — Von Miller, for example — to go up against man-to-man coverage.

    The Broncos hit Newton 13 times in that game, and below is a look at just how many pass-rushers they used at times …

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    WHY RAMS’ SCHEME CHANGE WON’T AFFECT AARON DONALD
    With Wade Phillips in as the Rams’ new defensive coordinator, Sam Monson explores the impact of a defensive scheme change.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-why-rams-scheme-change-wont-affect-aaron-donald/

    Nothing causes hysteria and concern among a fanbase like a new coaching hire that brings with it the prospect of a change in defensive scheme up front.

    This offseason, Wade Phillips was let go as defensive coordinator in Denver following the head-coaching change there, and was quickly snatched up by the Los Angeles Rams, replacing the departing Greg Williams in the same role. That means a switch in scheme for Los Angeles between 4-3 and 3-4 defensive fronts, which immediately raises questions about whether the Rams have the personnel for that change, and what it means for star defensive tackle, Aaron Donald, a player that has ranked first and second in PFF’s Top 101 player list over the past two years, respectively.

    The answer to that last question: almost nothing.

    In reality, there isn’t much distinction between 3-4 and 4-3 schemes today the way there once was.

    When the 3-4 was first in vogue back in the 1990s, it was a two-gap system, where giant behemoths on the D-line played head-up over their blockers, defending the gap to either side of them and occupying space for the linebackers behind them to make plays uncontested. 4-3 defenses were typically one-gap schemes with smaller bodies up front that attacked gaps and won with penetration, while the 3-4 was a system where the linebackers, not the defensive linemen, were the stars, and the big bodies up front controlled multiple gaps without overcommitting to either one.

    Today’s 3-4 defenses are very different animals, and predominantly one-gap systems, just like the 4-3. The NFL is generally a one-gap league these days, and there is very little two-gapping deployed as the league has trended towards smaller, quicker players across the board. Gargantuan nose tackles of the past like Ted Washington, Gilbert Brown and Grady Jackson have been eased out in favor of more athletic players that can move down the line, rush the passer, and not just occupy space. Sub 300-pound defensive tackles are not uncommon, and you will even find 3-4 nose tackles that barely tip the scales at over 300 pounds.

    The real driving force behind the adjustments in scheme is the passing game. The NFL is a passing league and now lives in nickel defense, not base. Most teams run with three wide receivers on offense instead of a fullback or second tight end, so defenses have countered with an extra defensive back. Last season, base 4-3 and 3-4 defenses combined (with just four defensive backs on the field) accounted for only 27 percent of defensive snaps, while nickel defense (five defensive backs) was at 55 percent, and dime (six defensive backs) another 10.

    What used to be your every-down defense is now being used on average only a quarter of the time. Even if two teams have dramatically different base defensive alignments, they are in sub packages far more often, and those sub packages are much more uniform in structure. Base defenses can see significant differences in alignment, but while the 55 percent of snaps the league spends in nickel defense breaks down into a few different personnel groupings, most of them are essentially different ways of achieving the same alignment.

    Whether you are a 3-4 or 4-3 base defense, moving to a nickel personnel grouping takes somebody out of the front-seven and adds a player to the secondary. When that happens, most teams deploy the remaining six players up front in more or less the same way because it is the most efficient way of accounting for every gap along the line.

    The first guy to get sacrificed is the big nose tackle for 3-4 teams. Linemen that weigh 320-plus pounds may still be great run defenders, but they tend to offer little as pass-rushing threats. 4-3 teams typically lose one of their three linebackers, leaving both schemes with two edge defenders, two interior defenders and two off-the-ball linebackers to go along with their five defensive backs. The only difference is exactly how those edge defenders stand when they line up. Whether you’re a 3-4 or 4-3 base team, the alignment of the front four in nickel and dime defense tends to wind up the same, but is still differentiated by anachronistic position designations that no longer make sense as descriptive tools.

    This image shows Denver’s defense under Wade Phillips and the Rams’ defense under Greg Williams from last year, superimposed into one image.

    The teams were both facing near enough the same offensive formation, and they deployed their front four in identical gap alignments. The only difference between the two was that the player furthest to the right side playing on the edge was an outside linebacker for the Broncos (DeMarcus Ware) who rushed from a two-point stance, but for the Rams, that player was a defensive end that had his hand in the dirt (Eugene Sims).

    Those players are listed at different positions on the roster, but have identical roles from the exact same alignment on the play in this situation. The distinction between linebacker and defensive end is far less meaningful in the world of nickel defense than that between edge defender, interior defender and off-the-ball linebacker, which is why the Pro-Bowl ballot will remain broken until it adopts that shift in player designation.

    The difference in the stance of the edge defender between two-point and hand in the dirt may not even be a team-prescribed technique. There are teams in the league (the Patriots, being one) that allow their edge defenders to choose which they feel more comfortable with on any given play, effectively leaving the designation of that defensive front to one player’s whim each snap (if all you care about is how many players have their hand in the ground). As long as he is lined up in the right spot, those teams don’t care if he is in a two- or three-point stance, so the label of linebacker or defensive end is entirely meaningless and arbitrary for that player on that play.

    The same thing is true for interior defenders, too. Aaron Donald is known as a 3-technique defensive tackle, or “under-tackle” in a 4-man defensive-line scheme. 3-technique is simply the name of the defensive-line technique that sees a player lined up over the outside shoulder of the guard, ready to attack the gap to his outside. Most pass-rushing defensive tackles primarily play in that specific technique, but so do most pass-rushing 3-4 defensive ends. Calais Campbell, in Arizona’s 3-4 scheme, plays more 3-technique than any other technique—and more than many defensive tackles—but is listed as a defensive end on the roster. Donald’s alignment distribution in 2016 almost exactly matches that of Denver’s defensive ends, Derek Wolfe and Jared Crick.

    The defense that Wade Phillips runs does have some eccentricities compared to other systems in the league—they tend to stay in base defense longer than most teams and then leap straight to six defensive backs, bypassing the nickel packages of five DBs altogether. Even in base defense, though, it is very much like a 4-3 scheme from an alignment standpoint.

    When looking at the alignment distribution of Wolfe against Donald last year, the only difference between the two is a small spike for Wolfe in the 4-technique spot, the technique that plays head up over the tackle (the original 3-4 two-gap style alignment we mentioned earlier). There will be plays where we see Donald lined up in this spot, but Wolfe played there less than half as often as he played in the 3-technique spot that Donald usually occupied, and even in that alignment, he is going to be tasked with shooting a gap and defeating that tackle with quickness and hand speed rather than trying to eat up space and two-gap either side of him. In Phillips’ scheme, it is more of a disguise measure than it is a statement of two-gapping intent.

    We are going to see Aaron Donald and the rest of the Rams’ defense lining up in a new defensive front under Wade Phillips in 2017, but if you can look beyond how many players have their hand in the ground, operating from a three-point stance, you’ll see that the alignment of those players has changed little despite the shift from 4-3 to 3-4. That once was a seismic shift that required a complete retooling of your defensive personnel to make it work, but in today’s NFL, it’s just a different way to shuffle the same cards. Aaron Donald may now be labelled as a 3-4 defensive end, but he will be the same destructive force as an interior defender as he has been over the past couple of seasons.

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    Rams DC Wade Phillips sees more flexibility, deception in 3-4 defense

    By Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/33055/wade-phillips-sees-more-flexibility-deception-in-3-4-defense

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Wade Phillips played in a 4-3 defensive scheme in college, as a linebacker at Houston in the 1960s. But he went on to become a defensive coordinator who would specialize in implementing the 3-4 scheme, one he will transition the Los Angeles Rams to in 2017.

    He just thinks it’s a better defense.

    “When you have a 4-3, you have four linemen, those are the four guys that are rushing,” Phillips said. “When you have a 3-4, you have three linemen and somebody else is coming from somewhere because it’s going to be a four-man rush most of the time. It gives an advantage of them not knowing, protection-wise. I think it helps you, pass defense-wise. If you look at our pass defenses over the years, you look at our sacks over the years, they’ve all been top of the league. And I think that’s the key to beating people is stopping the passing game in this league. That’s why I’ve stuck with the 3-4.”

    Phillips has presided over 20 top-10 defenses since joining the NFL in 1976. The Broncos unit he oversaw was the game’s best each of the last two years, benefiting from a lockdown secondary and a devastating pass rush that didn’t require blitz packages to get to the quarterback. Phillips, 69, has incorporated concepts of the 4-3 and the 46 defense over the years, but all within the structure of a 3-4 set.

    His defense isn’t expected to change much for the Rams’ players, even though they used four down linemen and mostly five defensive backs under former coordinator Gregg Williams, a master at disguising pass rushes.

    Aaron Donald will remain a three-technique, and though veteran defensive end Robert Quinn may no longer operate out of a three-point stance, he’s still expected to spend most of his time getting around the edge to pressure the quarterback. New defensive line coach Bill Johnson, most recently with the Saints, was with the Falcons when Phillips converted their defense from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in 2002. He remembers there being a lot of angst about the transition, but the Falcons went from 26th to 12th in defensive DVOA in Phillips’ first season.

    The 3-4 defense will only provide “more multiplicity,” Johnson believes.

    “Really and truly, to me, it’s techniques,” Johnson said. “They [the four down linemen from the 4-3 scheme] are going to be playing the very same techniques. And I sort of had the same thing in Atlanta — this is a four-man front, how are we going to fit these players?

    “I learned that you can be more multiple and you can attack protections better. I learned a lot of football with Wade that first time. And I think the advantage is we’ll be able to take our players and match them up in different positions that give us even better matchups.”

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    good read from 2016 on Wade’s defense

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    How the Broncos’ defense upended the NFL by moving past X’s and O’s to something more simple
    “We’re different — a lot different,” Sylvester Williams said.

    Aug. 15, 2016

    link: http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/20/broncos-defense-upended-nfl-simple/

    It is the Broncos’ “Bear” call. Sylvester Williams, a hulking, 313-pound nose tackle, the largest player on Denver’s defensive line, a guy who gets paid to get in the way, drops into pass coverage.

    “That ain’t normal,” Williams said. “But that’s one of my favorite plays.”

    His job on this play is to keep a running back from catching the ball. No defense ever asks a nose tackle to play like a cornerback. The Broncos are not like everyone else.

    “We’re different — a lot different,” he said.

    When the Denver defense lines up next month to open the season in a rematch against Carolina quarterback Cam Newton and the Panthers, it will be trying to duplicate one of the most impressive playoff showings of all time, capped by a brilliant Super Bowl. In that game, Denver sacked Newton six times, intercepted one of his passes, scored a touchdown and nearly scored another. It put that defense in a discussion among the great defenses of the past 30 years.

    But the league does not quite know what it sees in the Denver D. The Broncos are an outlier in the staid NFL. They confuse fans and hardcore insiders. With defensive coordinator Wade Phillips, a football lifer who learned from his dad, Bum, the Broncos are conservative radicals, a stick-to-basics defense that bucks the trend of complicated schemes in favor of beautiful simplicity.

    The best defense in the NFL plays in plain sight. And nobody can pin it down.

    “They say they know what we’re going to do,” Phillips said, “but can they stop us?”

    JUST GO PLAY

    To borrow a board game tagline, the Broncos’ defense takes a minute to learn and a lifetime to master. Bum Phillips upset the defensive order in the 1950s when he was coaching small town high school football in East Texas. He developed a way to number defensive lineman to make it easy for kids to know their roles. And he introduced a 3-4 defense — three linemen up front, four linebackers in the middle. His ideas trickled up the ladder.

    Paul “Bear” Bryant borrowed Bum’s ideas at Texas A&M in the late ’50s. The NFL, with many teams still using five-man fronts built to stop the run and ignore the pass, soon followed. And the 3-4 defense began to take hold.

    Wade Phillips, who also came up through the Texas high school ranks, spun the 3-4 even further. He recognized that the 3-4 can be the most adaptable defense in football. It’s built to let players do what they can do best. If a linebacker is good at coverage, let him cover. If a cornerback can rush the passer, cut him loose. And if a 313-pound nose tackle is quick enough to chase a running back, go for it.

    “That’s our philosophy. Just do what the guy can do,” Phillips said. “I can think of a lot of different defenses. But it’s about what the players can do. I’ve always thought that way. When I coached in high school, some guys can’t play very well at all and you have to get by with what they can do. Maybe I got that from my dad. But when I started coaching, it just made sense to me that way.”

    But the Broncos can play very well. They can do just about everything. So the simple structure of the 3-4 allows them to be unpredictable. Positions and roles are only words for roster sheets. In theory, the Xs and Os are starting points. In practice, players play everywhere.

    “It is simple. That’s Wade’s goal. It allows you to just play,” Broncos cornerback Bradley Roby said. “The best defenses that I’ve seen, and the research that I’ve done, the common thing I get is they’re simple. Everybody knows their job, everybody knows their adjustments and everybody plays together. Wade’s defense, being simple, it allows our athletes to just go play.”

    PLAYING TAG TEAM

    This moldability allowed the Denver defense to baffle offenses last season. After the Broncos held Cincinnati to 200 yards passing in an overtime victory in late December, the Bengals’ receivers could not agree on what defeated them. The Broncos played a zone defense. No, it was man-to-man. No, they switched at halftime. No one seemed sure.

    The truth is between the lines. Bill Green, a legend in Indiana high school basketball, developed a hybrid defense in the late 1960s and ’70s, that starts as a zone and morphs into man-to-man. Instead of defending one-on-one everywhere, a player defends face-to-face in his area, then withdraws if that player crosses a boundary.

    Phillips loves this idea. If Broncos cornerback Chris Harris starts on the right side covering A.J. Green, for example, he can follow him around like a jacket until Green wanders too far, then Aqib Talib takes over.

    “We play a matchup zone,” Phillips said, not afraid to reveal his playbook. “It looks like man until you pass him off to somebody else. We started it from basketball, way, way back. Everybody was playing 2-1-2 zone and if the ball went to one side, they stayed in place. But then later on they started moving over. We thought, “Well, we can do that. We’ve got five receivers going out, that’s the same concept as basketball.’ ”

    The Broncos’ defense is a tag-team. It plays one-on-one until it decides to play two-on-one. This helped them hold opponents to the fewest yards and the fourth fewest points in the NFL last season.

    “It’s simple, but it’s not easy,” Roby said. “There’s a lot of pressure. The heat is on. But that pressure is what makes us work at our best. We’re used to being in man coverage when the game is on the line. When I was younger, in college, any time I’d get a man call, I’d be nervous. But not now.

    “In the end, it’s a one-on-one league. As a defense, we win those battles the majority of the time. If it’s a left tackle one-on-one with Von Miller, he’s winning that in two seconds. Teams have to catch us slipping, really.”

    Even longtime veterans of the game get confused by Denver’s defense. During the Broncos’ first preseason game, at Chicago, former safety and now broadcaster John Lynch commented about how aggressive Denver was blitzing the quarterback. This set off a battle of semantics after the game.

    Phillips retorted on Twitter, saying the Broncos never blitzed. They rushed four defenders, sometimes five, but they never blitzed. A rush is not a blitz. When a defense blitzes the quarterback, they are sacrificing numbers in the secondary in order to add an advantage at the line of scrimmage. It’s a gamble.

    “The true meaning of a blitz in football is six guys are rushing and five guys are covering five receivers,” Phillips said. “If a backer or a safety gets a sack, they usually say it’s a blitz. And there’s nothing wrong with that. But a dog (rush) is five people. And a four-man rush or a three-man rush is different.”

    Under Phillips, the Broncos rarely blitz. They don’t need to. They can send a four-man rush with Williams and defensive end Derek Wolfe and two linebackers, maybe Miller and Brandon Marshall, or two linebackers and two corners, or a corner and a safety with a lineman and a backer. The combinations are endless. It’s all a rush. And the Broncos can just as easily get to the quarterback without gambling on a blitz.

    That way, they can keep their numbers advantage in coverage and still pressure the quarterback. Between options A and B, the Broncos choose all of the above.

    “It’s simple — get to the ball,” Williams said. “That’s Wade’s No. 1 rule. Get to the ball. At the end of the day, if you get to the ball, you make plays, you do your job.”

    Defenses are necessarily reactive. The offense possess the ball. It dictates the terms. It moves first. The Broncos’ defense, though, is impatient. It doesn’t want to wait for the other team to act first. So Denver often makes the first move.

    “We’re a play-making defense,” Williams said. “We’re designed to get up the field. We’re not holding up blocks. We’re not two-gap. We’re making plays. I love this defense.”

    SIMPLY CRAZY

    Phillips, who was out of football and semi-retired in 2014 before he returned to the Broncos, waited a lifetime for a defense to match his philosophy. He was Denver’s defensive coordinator from 1989-92, then head coach in ’93-94. The Broncos reached the Super Bowl once in that span, in 1990, a blowout loss to the 49ers. His defenses were good. But they weren’t great.

    This defense is great. The difference now is personnel. The Broncos have one of the best defenders in the league, in Von Miller, and the best cornerbacks, in Roby, Harris and Talib, and they have defensive linemen who can play in pass coverage and linebackers, such as Brandon Marshall, who can cover ground like a sprinter.

    And unlike many other teams, the Broncos’ defensive playbook is thin. The scheme is straightforward. Players play. Chase the ball. Get it done. Phillips figured this out over decades. His idea is to turn over the defense to the guys on the field.

    “He’s got a lot of swag,” Williams said. “We have very few calls. He says to the defense, ‘Just make plays!’ That’s his mindset. He’ll call the call, then let us play football. It’s a player’s defense.

    “Coach Wade is a genius, man. We trust him because he trusts us.”

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    “We play a matchup zone,” Phillips said, not afraid to reveal his playbook. “It looks like man until you pass him off to somebody else. We started it from basketball, way, way back. Everybody was playing 2-1-2 zone and if the ball went to one side, they stayed in place. But then later on they started moving over. We thought, “Well, we can do that. We’ve got five receivers going out, that’s the same concept as basketball.’ ”

    The Broncos’ defense is a tag-team. It plays one-on-one until it decides to play two-on-one. This helped them hold opponents to the fewest yards and the fourth fewest points in the NFL last season.

    That’s from here (last post).

    This stuff (—>) is from another article.

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/phillips-743780-defense-rams.html

    This has happened a few times, where I’ll take over a 4-3 and go to a 3-4,” Phillips said. “But the 3-4 is better. You’re normally bringing four pass rushers. In a 4-3, that means all the linemen. In a 3-4, that’s three linemen plus a linebacker, but you don’t know which linebacker is coming. That causes some confusion and gives the defensive backs a better chance. Nowadays it’s all about stopping the passing game.

    “We’ve led the league playing all zone, or all man. I prefer man because it’s harder to throw against it for a good percentage. But we also play a lot of matchup zone, which looks like something it’s not.”

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    from Guide to N.F.L. Defenses, Part 4: The 3-4 Front

    https://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/09/guide-to-n-f-l-defenses-part-4-the-3-4-front/

    Bum Phillips and the 1-gap 3-4

    To hear Bum Phillips tell it, developing his version of the 3-4 defense wasn’t rocket science.

    “Coaching is pretty simple really. If you don’t got something, find something you do got. Really, we didn’t have but one [defensive lineman] – [Hall of Famer] Elvin [Bethea] – until we got Curley [Culp] in the middle of that season. Then we had two. What we did have was four real good linebackers, so all I done was find a way to get our best players on the field.”

    Like the Fairbanks-Bullough 3-4 scheme that was taking hold in New England at the same time, Phillips was looking to contain the run and create mismatches in pass rush. Though Phillips based his scheme on the same concepts that the New England coaches did, he favored a more attacking style. He used a number of one-gap techniques in his front seven, stunting and slanting his linemen to cause pressure and using an OLB – “Dr. Doom” Robert Brazile, who was LT before Lawrence Taylor came into the league – frequently as a fourth pass rusher. In many ways, Phillips’s scheme was a 4-3 with four players in a two-point stance.

    That attacking style of play has stood the test of time better than the read-and-react style for much the same reason that the 4-3 with an under or over shift has. It allows players to attack the offense, specifically by disguising the defense’s fourth (and fifth or sixth) pass rusher and the coverage behind. In fact, there are a lot of under front concepts in the Phillips 3-4.

    In contrast to the true 2-gap 3-4, there’s no clear “bubble” in a 1-gap front. The strongside end slides down in the guard-tackle gap and the nose tackle slants to the weakside center-guard gap. The weakside end may or may not be head-up on the tackle, sometimes aligning in a 5-technique. Moving the defensive lineman just a few inches changes the philosophy entirely. The diagram above shows an under-shifted 3-4, but over-shifted 3-4 fronts are also common.

    By comparing the two 3-4 diagrams, it’s easy to see how the mind-set of the defensive linemen differs between the two flavors of 3-4. It’s clear that the two inside linebackers can be, if the linemen are disruptive at all, better protected from the blocks of interior linemen. You can see the lines of attack for a delayed ILB blitz or how each OLB might get a jump by shifting one defensive end to the outside of an offensive tackle.

    The under-shifted 3-4 front, with or without a 2-gap end, is just one of many potential variations a coordinator may align for his front seven. In fact, a coach influenced by both flavors of the 3-4 might be tempted to meld both concepts with traditional 4-3 ideas and create a monster playbook with more than 50 fronts. And pull it off with amazing success.

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    Man. You read this whole thread, and you will “get” the Phillips defense!

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