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March 27, 2017 at 2:20 pm #66722znModerator
Breaking: The Raiders' move to Las Vegas has been approved 31-1, per @AdamSchefter.
The Dolphins voted against the move. pic.twitter.com/0plIIUztjl
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) March 27, 2017
March 27, 2017 at 3:14 pm #66723wvParticipantWonder why the Dolphins voted against it?
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vMarch 27, 2017 at 3:48 pm #66724znModeratorWonder why the Dolphins voted against it?
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vhttp://www.local10.com/sports/nfl/dolphins/dolphins-lone-vote-against-raiders-move-to-las-vegas
“My position today was that we as owners and as a league owe it to the fans to do everything we can to stay in the communities that have supported us until all options have been exhausted,” Ross told Miami Herald reporter Adam Beasley.
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Dolphins owner Stephen Ross told Bay Area News group Sunday that teams need to consider legacy, NFL team like a utility.
— Gregg Rosenthal (@greggrosenthal) March 27, 2017
Why did #Dolphins dissent? Source: Stephen Ross believes it's not the best thing for fans & NFL. No animosity. But concern for all the moves
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 27, 2017
More context on Stephen Ross' dissent: Ross spent $500M+ in private funds to renovate a stadium & keep #Dolphins in MIA for the next 30 yrs
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 27, 2017
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http://nesn.com/2017/03/heres-the-likely-reason-why-dolphins-opposed-raiders-las-vegas-move/
Ross has a point, as we now have seen three franchises announce a relocation within the last 14 months after the Rams and Chargers both moved to Los Angeles. That’s left fan bases in St. Louis, San Diego and now Oakland out to dry, while it’s unclear if these teams can carve out “legacies” in uncertain markets such as Las Vegas and L.A.
March 27, 2017 at 4:36 pm #66725snowmanParticipantThe Rams and Raiders have made two moves in and out of LA in the last 15/20 years, so I’m not upset about another move for the Raiders. The Chargers move did surprise me because I have always known them as the San Diego Chargers. I was surprised when the league expanded into Jacksonville. That still looks weird to me.
March 27, 2017 at 7:47 pm #66731InvaderRamModeratori wonder if fans now begin to get turned off by the league as a whole.
March 27, 2017 at 11:09 pm #66736znModerator#Raiders owner Mark Davis became a made man today, and the #NFL, Las Vegas, & Oakland are changed forever https://t.co/lpzgyrU67J
— Vincent Bonsignore (@DailyNewsVinny) March 28, 2017
March 27, 2017 at 11:43 pm #66737InvaderRamModeratorso how does an up and coming team respond to a move?
will it affect them negatively or not at all?
March 28, 2017 at 12:10 am #66740znModeratorwill it affect them negatively or not at all?
Historically, the Raiders were the only team to win after a move.
March 28, 2017 at 12:46 am #66741ZooeyModeratorThey aren’t moving until after the stadium is built, and they don’t even have renderings of it yet. They will be another couple of years in Oakland no matter what, so they presumably won’t be up and coming at that point.
March 28, 2017 at 7:24 am #66743wvParticipantThey aren’t moving until after the stadium is built, and they don’t even have renderings of it yet. They will be another couple of years in Oakland no matter what, so they presumably won’t be up and coming at that point.
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O man. So the Oakland fans are gonna keep them for another year or two?
Thats gonna be weird. And ugly. And fun to watch.
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vMarch 28, 2017 at 11:49 am #66749joemadParticipantThey aren’t moving until after the stadium is built, and they don’t even have renderings of it yet. They will be another couple of years in Oakland no matter what, so they presumably won’t be up and coming at that point.
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O man. So the Oakland fans are gonna keep them for another year or two?
Thats gonna be weird. And ugly. And fun to watch.
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vthe window of opportunity to win a SB in Oakland is open now.
they have the team and structure in place.
1) They have the GM (Executive of the year)
2) They have the coach
3) They have the franchise QB
4) They have a young balanced team.
5) Tom Brady is old, thus Oakland can get deep in the playoffs….This open window could’ve also taken advantage of the SF bay area fan base, as the 49ers window to win now is far from open, but Oakland wants the big payday in a much smaller market in Vegas….
2 years is a long time to be lame duck…. anything can happen, I’m not sold yet on the LV Raiders.
April 3, 2017 at 12:07 pm #66950znModeratorhttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/03/cleveland-browns-paul-depodesta-nfl-draft-peter-king
Peter King
On the Raiders’ move
To put it mildly, the reaction to the Raiders’ move from Oakland to Las Vegas at the meetings was muted. The Las Vegas backers were fired up, of course. But even though the owners voted 31-1 in favor of the move, it wasn’t an enthusiastic vote of confidence that they love Las Vegas; it was more resignation that the Raiders would never get a good stadium built in Oakland unless owner Mark Davis agreed to take on a partner. Which, unfortunately for Oakland, he refused to do.
I’ve written this several times, but Davis probably could have found a 50-percent partner who would have been a keystone to building a stadium in northern California, the same way the Mara family merged with the Tisches in 1991 when the cost of doing NFL business became too high for one family without significant income elsewhere. Easy for me to say that Davis should have sold half his team; I understand it’s his call. His father, the late Al Davis, steadfastly refused to cede any control of the franchise to partners. Ditto Mark Davis.
Look at a map of the Bay Area. Look at San Jose, on the southern end. Right next to San Jose is Santa Clara, where the 49ers play. Up in Oakland, 42 miles north of San Jose, is where the Raiders will be leaving. To get from San Francisco, Oakland and Berkeley to see the 49ers is a solid hour in the car.
And I can tell you that what concerns the league now is the fact that the northern part of the Bay Area, the sixth-largest market in the country, is now going to be without an NFL team. With so much money, and so much fan interest, having one team and having it at the southern end of the region, with nothing at the northern end, is disconcerting.
The fans in this region already are turned off by the 49ers, and it will take a rally orchestrated by GM John Lynch and coach Kyle Shanahan to get them excited again. The Raiders were being built into a power, the kind of team fans from all over the Bay Area could have learned to love. Now, the Raiders may not even be loved in the next two years inside the Oakland Coliseum.
Maybe a fabulously wealthy Silicon Valley entrepreneur will spearhead a drive to pick off a struggling NFL team and move it west in the next three or four years, and lead the building of a new stadium. If not, the NFL will miss the greatness of this region at a time when it’s continuing to explode (in a good way) economically.
Somehow the NFL has to figure a way to stop the bleeding in great football regions like San Diego and San Francisco/Oakland. It’s not going to be easy. But there are too many great fans of pro football in California getting slapped in the face with the moves of these two franchises.
That’s one of the reasons no NFL owner or executive was celebrating the move of Oakland to Las Vegas … and the Chargers in Los Angeles as a second team makes absolutely zero sense either. The Chargers in L.A. and the Raiders in Vegas are good for the NFL’s business. But there’s nothing else good about either move.
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