Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24701246/ravens-release-ray-rice

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Agamemnon wrote:

The corp. takes care of its image. That is most important. It is ok to lie or be wrong, but don’t embarrass me.

The corporate-PR suits will also work the other side
of things — they will consult with Ray Rice and he will
be magically transformed and redeemed ala, Greg Williams, M.Vick, etc,
in a year or two.

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they had all of the footage. if they didn’t. then they had access to it but chose to ignore it. bullshit if the nfl claims they didn’t have the opportunity to view the tapes.

well i think he needs help. unfortunately with his status. his actions have never had any consequences. i mean look at what the nfl did or didn’t do. frankly i find that more disturbing.

Mackeyser wrote:

Word is that Harvey Levin is going to come out that the NFL and specifically Goodell knew about that tape.

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TMZ’s Harvey Levin: NFL knew newly-released Ray Rice elevator video existed

http://www.myfoxdc.com/clip/10562403/tmzs-harvey-levin-talks-to-fox-5-about-new-ray-rice-elevator-video

It’s the talk of the town on TMZ. Baltimore Ravens running back Ray rice allegedly caught on camera punching his then-fiancee in the head in an elevator knocking her unconscious. TMZ was the first to release the video and TMZ’s Harvey Levin joined us on FOX 5 to talk about it.

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TMZ Producer Says NFL Knew About Shocking Ray Rice Video, Promises Bombshell Report

Erin Fuchs

Sep. 8, 2014, 8:55 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/harvey-levin-says-nfl-knew-ray-rice-tape-existed-2014-9#ixzz3Cn3PqtSi

In this May 23, 2014, file photo, Janay Rice, left, looks on as her husband, Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice, speaks to the media during a news conference in Owings Mills, Md.

An executive producer for TMZ — which published disturbing video of NFL player Ray Rice knocking his then-fiancee unconscious — said Monday he believes the league knew about the footage before the public saw it.

In an interview with Fox, Harvey Levin said he believes the NFL “turned a blind eye” to the video of Rice beating his now-wife, Janay Rice, in an elevator. Earlier on Monday, the NFL said it did not see the footage of Rice beating Janay before Monday. The NFL says it requested that video from law enforcement but never got it.

For his part, Levin did not say in the Fox news clip that the NFL had actually seen the video. Rather, he said the NFL knew that it was out there — a fact the NFL didn’t seem to contradict in its statement Monday.

“It’s a shameful story that the NFL knew that the surveillance video existed,” Levin said. It was “no secret,” he added, that Rice had to pull his fiancee out of an elevator because he’d knocked her unconscious.

Levin did not provide any evidence that the NFL flagrantly ignored the videotape, but he suggested he would do so on Tuesday in TMZ.

“When you wake up tomorrow and go to the website, our website … you will see what the NFL didn’t do,” he said.

The NFL was widely criticized for initially suspending Rice for just two games after his alleged assault. Following the release of the video Monday, the Baltimore Ravens cut Rice and the NFL suspended him indefinitely.

just horrible. it’s not just goodell. members of the ravens organization saw this as well. maybe even harbaugh who said it was no big deal.

if ray rice is the only one who suffers from this, then it’s a travesty. other people need to be held responsible for the lies that have been told.

PA Ram wrote:

I don’t know what’s more disturbing—the punch itself, or the way he just casually drags her body around afterward–like it’s a bag of potatoes or something.

That is a very disturbed dude and the NFL is better off without him—actually society is better off without him.

Domestic violence is full of strange, human, currents.
Think about the fact that the lady
is going to marry him…and think about
why that would be…etc.

Anyway, Goodell is a corporate-suit. He
was out of his league on this one.

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zn wrote:

Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
If TMZ can prove NFL in fact had opportunity to view tapes, and declined, then that’s a potential game changer. Credibility in balance

I think Goodell is toast if TMZ can demonstrate that. He should have been gone a long time ago.

Covering up brain injury info, bounty gate and now this…the NFL is making Haliburton, Big Tobacco and BP look good.

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<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>nittany ram wrote:</div>
Covering up brain injury info, bounty gate and now this…the NFL is making Haliburton, Big Tobacco and BP look good.

The difference being, public disapproval COULD lead to Goddell being replaced and at least a portion of a change in the culture.

Those other corporations? Yeah good luck.

We complain that the NFL is too corporate.

The actual corporations think it’s not corporate ENOUGH.

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Yeah, at least public opinion can have some impact on NFL policy.

But even if Goodell takes the fall for his role in all of this, the ultimate responsibility rests with the owners. Goodell is their representative. They will remain untouched by the fallout though.

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wv wrote:

Domestic violence is full of strange, human, currents.
Think about the fact that the lady
is going to marry him…and think about
why that would be…etc.

That is precisely what I was going to post! She already married him! And no one (except for your post here) says anything about that. How can she, her family and friends, anyone close to this woman think this is okay? Of course it is going to happen again no matter how desperately he tries to convince her it won’t. Now that he’s out of work the violence may escalate. I know domestic violence is a very complicated issue but my heart just breaks for these women who want to believe that he’ll change, or think it’s their fault or that they deserve this, etc. That upsets me more than anything.

The Ravens organization may be even worse than the Commissioner’s Office. They just sent the coach out to address the media. Shouldn’t that be the owner or GM answering reporters’ questions?

I suspect that Ray Rice will never return to the NFL, not because the NFL would consider it morally wrong, but because the NFL and the Ravens handled this the wrong way and there’s no going back. “Suspended indefinitely” sounds like there’s a door left open. But, if reporters continue to dig into whether the NFL covered up information and lied to the media, the story won’t go away as quickly as it would have done otherwise.

Having said all of that, think about this: Ray Rice wasn’t really ever punished by the law for this attack. He should have been sent to prison. At least the NFL did something, even if they didn’t do it right. If he went to prison, he wouldn’t be playing football. At least he’s not allowed to play football.

joemad wrote:

i don’t know if he’ll ever play in the NFL either but you never know….. afterall some dumb ass organization traded HOF Jerome Bettis to Pittsburgh to get the rights to draft some dickhead from Nebraska who beat his girlfriend in college

Was that the same organization
that traded up for the Pope’s Hooker?

Rice will play again. And i dont mind that, frankly.
As long as he grows and evolves and learns what he needs to learn.
What often happens though, is the person just
learns how to jump-through-all-the-hoops and say-the-right-things.

This ‘could’ be a chance for Rice to grow
in all kinds of poignant ways.

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Totally agree. I’m not even certain that the actions of the NFL or the Ravens this week were the right things to do, especially if the goal is to help avoid a repeat of that awful attack in the elevator. But, the NFL has painted itself into this corner by reacting to avoid public criticism.