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January 17, 2017 at 8:29 pm #63793wvParticipant
link:http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/01/17/89812/
January 17, 2017
The DNC Hands the Democratic Party Over to David Brock and Billionaire Donorsby Michael J. Sainato
The Democratic Party establishment has responded to Hillary Clinton’s election loss the same way they would have responded had Hillary Clinton won, by changing absolutely nothing. Clinton’s overt embrace of wealthy donors and establishment figures from both political parties repelled thousands of voters toward third parties, voting for Trump, or apathy.
This trend embodied by Clinton’s candidacy has resulted in Democrats losing over 900 state legislature seats and failing to recoup majorities in both houses of Congress. Instead of figuring out how to reconnect with working and middle class voters across the country, Democrats are handing the keys of the party directly over to wealthy billionaire donors while attempting to maintain the facade they care about the common voter.
Despite formal complaints, a lawsuit, and ethical concerns, billionaire donor and close ally to former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Stephen Bittel was elected by the Florida Democratic Party establishment to serve as its new Chair on January 14. Next weekend in Florida, billionaire donors will gain even more ground in the Democratic Party at a private retreat hosted by Clinton propagandist David Brock, where each candidate for the new DNC Chair will participate in a forum to woo support from the Democratic Party’s donors.
David Brock became notorious after his attacks on Anita Hill, who accused 1991 Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment, and passed a polygraph test in addition to testifying in front of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee. Thomas was confirmed anyways, and David Brock became rich off a book he wrote smearing Anita Hill. In 2001, Brock admitted he based the book on lies, part of his transition from Republican hit man to Hillary Clinton’s propaganda henchman.
Now that Hillary Clinton’s machine has broken down, Brock is depending on bundling his donor network with that of billionaire George Soros’ Democracy Alliance to push back against the direction Bernie Sanders and his supporters want to pull the party in, away from wealthy donors, with the support of the Democratic Party establishment. The DNC has allowed Brock’s Super-Pac, American Bridge, to develop strategy for a “Trump War Room,” and the next DNC Chair will likely be chosen by billionaire donors at the private retreat Brock is hosting under the distraction veil afforded by Trump’s Inauguration Ceremony.
If Democrats want to constructively hold Donald Trump accountable and recoup, they need to disavow themselves from David Brock’s incompetence. Relying on smear campaigns, propaganda, and hyperbolic attacks, in an attempt to portray a stark contrast between Republicans and Democrats will backfire as it did for Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. The Clinton Campaign, David Brock, and the mainstream narrative focused their campaign on manufacturing outrage toward Donald Trump rather than try to make meaningful connections with working and middle class voters, especially in areas like the rust belt that have suffered increasing economic anxiety over the past decade.
David Brock won’t be a part of any viable solution for the Democratic Party. As Bernie Sanders Aide Michael Briggs said during the Democratic Primaries, Hillary Clinton, “should be ashamed of her association with Brock.” The same goes for the Democratic Party if they continue to provide Brock a platform and network to perpetuate his awful ideas and strategies along with out-of-touch wealthy donors.
“Their top-down approach to politics — a service model animated by an unwavering belief in their own superior intelligence — leaves us defenseless in the face of Trump and the right-wing forces he’s empowered,” wrote Alex Press for Jacobin in November. “Their existential dread of radical change renders them suspicious of precisely the policies that could unite workers of all races and blunt Trump’s appeal. In short, the rich can’t save us.”
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Tuesday, January 17, 2017January 17, 2017 at 9:16 pm #63799ZooeyModeratorHere’s what they learned:
January 17, 2017 at 9:42 pm #63806Billy_TParticipantAnother solid analysis of why the Dems lost and what they need to learn from that:
Excerpt:
First, he saved the financial system. A financial system in collapse has to allocate losses. In this case, big banks and homeowners both experienced losses, and it was up to the Obama administration to decide who should bear those burdens. Typically, such losses would be shared between debtors and creditors, through a deal like the Home Owners Loan Corporation in the 1930s or bankruptcy reform. But the Obama administration took a different approach. Rather than forcing some burden-sharing between banks and homeowners through bankruptcy reform or debt relief, Obama prioritized creditor rights, placing most of the burden on borrowers. This kept big banks functional and ensured that financiers would maintain their positions in the recovery. At a 2010 hearing, Damon Silvers, vice chairman of the independent Congressional Oversight Panel, which was created to monitor the bailouts, told Obama’s Treasury Department: “We can either have a rational resolution to the foreclosure crisis, or we can preserve the capital structure of the banks. We can’t do both.”
Second, Obama’s administration let big-bank executives off the hook for their roles in the crisis. Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) referred criminal cases to the Justice Department and was ignored. Whistleblowers from the government and from large banks noted a lack of appetite among prosecutors. In 2012, then-Attorney General Eric Holder ordered prosecutors not to go after mega-bank HSBC for money laundering. Using prosecutorial discretion to not take bank executives to task, while legal, was neither moral nor politically wise; in a 2013 poll, more than half of Americans still said they wanted the bankers behind the crisis punished. But the Obama administration failed to act, and this pattern seems to be continuing. No one, for instance, from Wells Fargo has been indicted for mass fraud in opening fake accounts.
Third, Obama enabled and encouraged roughly 9 million foreclosures. This was Geithner’s explicit policy at Treasury. The Obama administration put together a foreclosure program that it marketed as a way to help homeowners, but when Elizabeth Warren, then chairman of the Congressional Oversight Panel, grilled Geithner on why the program wasn’t stopping foreclosures, he said that really wasn’t the point. The program, in his view, was working. “We estimate that they can handle 10 million foreclosures, over time,” Geithner said — referring to the banks. “This program will help foam the runway for them.” For Geithner, the most productive economic policy was to get banks back to business as usual.
It’s worth reading the whole thing.
January 17, 2017 at 9:56 pm #63807Billy_TParticipantHere’s what they learned:
Zooey,
I think you’re correct. After staying away from a particular forum for nearly four months, I recently went back. Most of the regulars are diehard Democrats. And most of them continue to blame Clinton’s loss on everyone but Clinton and the Dems. From Comey, to Russia, to Assange and back again. But their biggest object of criticism is “the left.” They heap most of their scorn on us, and it’s relentless. I’m pretty much the only leftist who posts there, and I tilt lances with them all the time (and conservatives too), and they really don’t want to listen.
To me, yes, Comey, Russia and Assange were factors. But the real reason Clinton lost was Clinton. And I tell them this. I tell them their own analysis, ironically, points to that. Because they keep saying if not for Stein voters and disaffected Sanders voters, Clinton would have won.
So, I tell ’em, reverse engineer that. If you (the Dems) had voted for Sanders in the primaries, he would have retained those disaffected voters, plus the young people he added to the roles, and far fewer people would have stayed home or voted for Stein. And he gets the Clinton voters to. Sanders wins against Trump.
I also pointed out that, unlike Sanders, Clinton had 25 years of Oppo research against her, plus ongoing GOP hearings, and years of those. With Sanders, the GOP dirty tricks machine would have been forced to start fresh, as of 2016, instead of having it all ready-made for them. No hearings against Sanders. No ongoing attempts to crush him.
Clinton’s window closed years ago, and her fans just don’t want to hear that. Not to mention the fact that she pushed Republican-Lite policies while Sanders pushed FDR, New Deal-like policies, which are much more popular . . . . More irony: the non-Democrat was really the only Democrat in the race.
January 17, 2017 at 10:04 pm #63808Billy_TParticipantAnother key factor: Bill Clinton’s sexual history. In my view, the Access Hollywood tape bombshell would have sunk Trump for good if not for Bill. In enough people’s minds, they said “Both sides do it!” and it (basically) cancelled out Trump’s history of sexual assault.
I don’t think it should have done that, but it did, IMO. And if the Dems had run a candidate without that kind of baggage, the spotlight remains on Trump. He doesn’t get to shift it to his opponent.
But, again, I don’t think the Dems have learned a thing from any of this. And zooming out further to just generalized strategy . . . . They have no room to grow to their right. The GOP owns that. It’s a done deal. So the Dems are wasting their time courting more of the right.
They’re only “growth opportunity” is to their left. Which means a massive about face, the implementation of truly “progressive” policies at least, and authentic, genuine, honest to goddess outreach to their left.
January 17, 2017 at 11:00 pm #63812wvParticipantClintons Shutter Global Initiative as Donations Dry Up
16 January 2017The Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) filed a WARN — Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification — with New York State’s Department of Labor on Thursday, announcing that, effective April 15, 2017, it would be closing its doors and laying off 22 employees. The CGI’s stated reason: “Discontinuation of the Clinton Global Initiative.”
Following the election, foreign governments that had been regular donors began cutting their contributions to the Clinton Foundation, some severely. For example, news.com.au noted that the Australian government “has not renewed any of its partnerships with the scandal-plagued Clinton Foundation, effectively ending 10 years of taxpayer-funded contributions worth more than $88 million.” The government of Norway, which had been contributing as much as $20 million a year to the foundation, cut its contribution by nearly 90 percent.
As noted by the New York Observer, these cuts indicate that “the organization’s clout was predicated on donor access to the Clintons, rather than its philanthropic work.”
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link:http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/25146-clintons-shutter-global-initiative-as-donations-dry-upJanuary 17, 2017 at 11:17 pm #63813Billy_TParticipantWV,
I know this is damn annoying, and I don’t want to be a nudge, but that website is owned by the John Birch Society. It’s not exactly the most objective source for news about Clinton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_American
And the New York Observer is owned by, guess who?
Jared Kushner, Trump’s son in law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Observer
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I just googled the story and all the links are to right-wing sites. To each their own, but I’ll wait for media reports with less of an axe to grind on this particular issue.
Beyond that, IMO, there’s a ton of bigger fish to fry when it comes to things the Clintons have done wrong. You’ve posted a ton of really good articles on those bigger fish.
January 20, 2017 at 3:23 pm #63960MackeyserModeratorI read the title and I had the same reaction that Zooey had…absolutely nothing.
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
January 20, 2017 at 5:49 pm #63970wvParticipantWV,
I know this is damn annoying, and I don’t want to be a nudge, but that website is owned by the John Birch Society. It’s not exactly the most objective source for news about Clinton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_American
And the New York Observer is owned by, guess who?
Jared Kushner, Trump’s son in law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Observer
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I just googled the story and all the links are to right-wing sites. To each their own, but I’ll wait for media reports with less of an axe to grind on this particular issue.
Beyond that, IMO, there’s a ton of bigger fish to fry when it comes to things the Clintons have done wrong. You’ve posted a ton of really good articles on those bigger fish.
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No problem BT, i actually appreciate the info.Still, my point in boldening this line wasnt really about Clinton. It was just about how the system works. Its all about access to power. Clinton loses power, the money goes elsewhere:
“As noted by the New York Observer, these cuts indicate that “the organization’s clout was predicated on donor access to the Clintons, rather than its philanthropic work.”
January 20, 2017 at 7:42 pm #63972Billy_TParticipantNo problem BT, i actually appreciate the info.
Still, my point in boldening this line wasnt really about Clinton. It was just about how the system works. Its all about access to power. Clinton loses power, the money goes elsewhere:
“As noted by the New York Observer, these cuts indicate that “the organization’s clout was predicated on donor access to the Clintons, rather than its philanthropic work.”
I think you’re exactly right about “how the system works.” But I’m not so sure the CGI is a good example of it at its worst, or anywhere close to that. It’s still going, btw. It didn’t shut down. It’s just morphed into another form. And the layoffs of those 22 people has to be put into context. They have 2000 employees.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Global_Initiative
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/
Regardless, and I know you know this. You’ve been talking about this stuff for years and years, along with posting articles and videos by leading leftists who make these points too. But here are three that strike me as important:
1. Keep the skepticism meter on high for all media. Check out hidden and overt biases and agendas. Corroborate their claims to the degree possible.
2. Keep context in view at all times. Place the reports in proper context, and respond with an eye toward proportionality.
3. Remember that systems and systemic, endemic problems often, if not generally, go beyond an individual’s effect on current events.
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And a fourth pet peeve hits me mostly because of this past election season:
4. We all too often paint individual politicians with the Marvel Comics Super-Villain brush, and wildly inflate what they’ve done, what they can do, and their supposed one-of-a-kind evilness. More often than not, 90-99% of the time, the people we invest with these super-powers, and the things we claim they’ve done, are major exaggerations. I think we should strive to make sure our condemnations and analyses sync up with real life, and not our own personal projections.
(I’m guilty of the above, and I need to work on that.)
January 20, 2017 at 8:19 pm #63973Billy_TParticipantI’m probably not expressing myself here well, but wanted to put it in another way:
History used to be taught using a kind of “great man” theory. But in recent decades, that’s been rejected for a much more inclusive approach. More and more histories are being written as the story told from dozens, or hundreds, or thousands of points of view. This history of WWI is an excellent example:
Along with this change, we went from thinking it could only be about kings and queens, to an acceptance of the impact of people once called “the peasants.”
The arts changed along these lines too, paintings started to depict “the common man,” and then the “common people,” as did poetry and literature and so on. No longer did we only witness to the lives of the Aristocracy. Anyone and everyone became a subject.
Brueghel’s Peasant Wedding. 1567To make a long story short, I have a feeling that our focus on single politicians is a remnant from those olden days and the “Great Man” theory. While it’s always essential to trace things back to “leaders” and hold them accountable, it’s also incredibly important to remember it often takes large numbers of people to do horrible things or good to great things . . . . and if we “sack” just one among the many, more often than not, the problem doesn’t go away.
January 20, 2017 at 10:07 pm #63975JackPMillerParticipantSince it is January 20, 2017. The next Presidential election is not until November 3, 2020. I was told that there is 1,383 days left to vote Trump out. That is what I learned. I wish I had the technical ability to build a clock, as the countdown to the next Presidential election. Just saying.
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