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January 12, 2017 at 7:01 pm #63285nittany ramModerator
Most people don’t realize how far back mammals go in geologic time. Mammals are as ancient a lineage as the dinosaurs. Both arose in the early Triassic period. This article is about the precursors to the mammals that lived in an earlier period, the Permian (290 million years ago).
I’m posting it mainly because it has cool pictures.
Link: https://cosmosmagazine.com/palaeontology/before-the-dinosaurs
January 12, 2017 at 7:19 pm #63292wvParticipantWhats the earliest life-form that we have Fossils of ?
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vJanuary 12, 2017 at 7:26 pm #63302nittany ramModeratorWhats the earliest life-form that we have Fossils of ?
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vThere are fossils of bacterial colonies called stromatolites that are 3.5 billion years old.
January 12, 2017 at 7:37 pm #63305wvParticipantWhats the earliest life-form that we have Fossils of ?
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vThere are fossils of bacterial colonies called stromatolites that are 3.5 billion years old.
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link:http://www.fossilmuseum.net/Tree_of_Life/Stromatolites.htmJanuary 12, 2017 at 7:48 pm #63314Billy_TParticipantMost people don’t realize how far back mammals go in geologic time. Mammals are as ancient a lineage as the dinosaurs. Both arose in the early Triassic period. This article is about the precursors to the mammals that lived in an earlier period, the Permian (290 million years ago).
I’m posting it mainly because it has cool pictures.
Link: https://cosmosmagazine.com/palaeontology/before-the-dinosaurs
Thanks, Nittany. Those pictures really are cool. And I didn’t know anything about that period in geologic time.
January 12, 2017 at 8:15 pm #63316ZooeyModeratorWhere are the pictures of the mermaids?
I have to add, it looks like a lot of those pictures were photoshopped. Besides, one of them has a rainbow in it, and God didn’t invent the rainbow until after Noah’s flood as a covenant that he wouldn’t drown everything again. But I don’t think dinosaurs survived the flood, anyway, so that picture can’t be real.
January 12, 2017 at 8:45 pm #63318AgamemnonParticipantWhats the earliest life-form that we have Fossils of ?
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vI assume what you want is the Cambrian Explosion.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/03/4/l_034_02.html
The Cambrian Explosion:
For most of the nearly 4 billion years that life has existed on Earth, evolution produced little beyond bacteria, plankton, and multi-celled algae. But beginning about 600 million years ago in the Precambrian, the fossil record speaks of more rapid change. First, there was the rise and fall of mysterious creatures of the Ediacaran fauna, named for the fossil site in Australia where they were first discovered. Some of these animals may have belonged to groups that survive today, but others don’t seem at all related to animals we know.
Then, between about 570 and 530 million years ago, another burst of diversification occurred, with the eventual appearance of the lineages of almost all animals living today. This stunning and unique evolutionary flowering is termed the “Cambrian explosion,” taking the name of the geological age in whose early part it occurred. But it was not as rapid as an explosion: the changes seems to have happened in a range of about 30 million years, and some stages took 5 to 10 million years.
It’s important to remember that what we call “the fossil record” is only the available fossil record. In order to be available to us, the remains of ancient plants and animals have to be preserved first, and this means that they need to have fossilizable parts and to be buried in an environment that will not destroy them.
It has long been suspected that the sparseness of the pre-Cambrian fossil record reflects these two problems. First, organisms may not have sequestered and secreted much in the way of fossilizable hard parts; and second, the environments in which they lived may have characteristically dissolved those hard parts after death and recycled them. An exception was the mysterious “small shelly fauna” — minute shelled animals that are hard to categorize — that left abundant fossils in the early Cambrian. Recently, minute fossil embryos dating to 570 million years ago have also been discovered. Even organisms that hadn’t evolved hard parts, and thus didn’t leave fossils of their bodies, left fossils of the trails they made as they moved through the Precambrian mud. Life was flourishing long before the Cambrian “explosion”.
The best record of the Cambrian diversification is the Burgess Shale in British Columbia. Laid down in the middle-Cambrian, when the “explosion” had already been underway for several million years, this formation contains the first appearance in the fossil record of brachiopods, with clamlike shells, as well as trilobites, mollusks, echinoderms, and many odd animals that probably belong to extinct lineages. They include Opabinia, with five eyes and a nose like a fire hose, and Wiwaxia, an armored slug with two rows of upright scales.
The question of how so many immense changes occurred in such a short time is one that stirs scientists. Why did many fundamentally different body plans evolve so early and in such profusion? Some point to the increase in oxygen that began around 700 million years ago, providing fuel for movement and the evolution of more complex body structures. Others propose that an extinction of life just before the Cambrian opened up ecological roles, or “adaptive space,” that the new forms exploited. External, ecological factors like these were undoubtedly important in creating the opportunity for the Cambrian explosion to occur.
Internal, genetic factors were also crucial. Recent research suggests that the period prior to the Cambrian explosion saw the gradual evolution of a “genetic tool kit” of genes that govern developmental processes. Once assembled, this genetic tool kit enabled an unprecedented period of evolutionary experimentation — and competition. Many forms seen in the fossil record of the Cambrian disappeared without trace. Once the body plans that proved most successful came to dominate the biosphere, evolution never had such a free hand again, and evolutionary change was limited to relatively minor tinkering with the body plans that already existed.
Interpretations of this critical period are subject of lively debate among scientists like Stephen Jay Gould of Harvard University and Simon Conway Morris of Cambridge University. Gould emphasizes the role of chance. He argues that if one could “rerun the tape” of that evolutionary event, a completely different path might have developed and would likely not have included a humanlike creature. Morris, on the other hand, contends that the environment of our planet would have created selection pressures that would likely have produced similar forms of life to those around us — including humans.
Published on Jun 2, 2016
Four and a half billion years ago, the young Earth was a hellish place—a seething chaos of meteorite impacts, volcanoes belching noxious gases, and lightning flashing through a thin, torrid atmosphere. Then, in a process that has puzzled scientists for decades, life emerged. But how? Mineralogist Robert Hazen as he journeys around the globe. From an ancient Moroccan market to the Australian Outback, he advances a startling and counterintuitive idea—that the rocks beneath our feet were not only essential to jump-starting life, but that microbial life helped give birth to hundreds of minerals we know and depend on today. It’s a theory of the co-evolution of Earth and life that is reshaping the grand-narrative of our planet’s story.
New evidence emerges on the origins of life
http://phys.org/news/2015-06-evidence…7 Theories on the Origin of Life
http://www.livescience.com/13363-7-th…The Origin of Life on Earth: Theories and Explanations
http://study.com/academy/lesson/the-o…Can Science Explain the Origin of Life?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQLy…This is basically a mainstream view.
Published on Sep 6, 2015
The Cambrian Explosion Mystery explores the great mystery of the history of life:
The sudden appearance of most of the major complex animal types in the fossil record, without any trace of gradual transitional steps that Charles Darwin had predicted, calls the evolutionary theory into question.Frequently described as “the Cambrian Explosion,” the development of these new animal types required a massive increase in genetic information. The big question that the Cambrian Explosion poses is where does all that new information come from in a geological instant?
This might be more entertaining?
Published on Aug 27, 2015
For most of the Earth’s history, life consisted of the simplest organisms; but then something happened that would give rise to staggering diversity, and, ultimately, life as complex as that which we see today. Scientists are still struggling to figure out just what that was.
The short version.
January 13, 2017 at 8:47 am #63402wvParticipantWhere are the pictures of the mermaids?
I have to add, it looks like a lot of those pictures were photoshopped. Besides, one of them has a rainbow in it, and God didn’t invent the rainbow until after Noah’s flood as a covenant that he wouldn’t drown everything again. But I don’t think dinosaurs survived the flood, anyway, so that picture can’t be real.
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More fake-news, zooey. Its everywhere.w
vJanuary 13, 2017 at 9:18 am #63406Billy_TParticipantWhere are the pictures of the mermaids?
I have to add, it looks like a lot of those pictures were photoshopped. Besides, one of them has a rainbow in it, and God didn’t invent the rainbow until after Noah’s flood as a covenant that he wouldn’t drown everything again. But I don’t think dinosaurs survived the flood, anyway, so that picture can’t be real.
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More fake-news, zooey. Its everywhere.w
vSo many “mysteries” regarding the bible, and so little time. Good annotation of those here:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm
And if you click on the categories over to the right, it’s easier to narrow that down.
And you get something like this:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/5.html#32
5:32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
But I think a really cool part is the Nephilim, whom Alex Jones believes still walk the earth. The Rams need some of those guys for both lines. But how did they survive the flood?
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