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Yeah, I’ve started to catch up on the Syria story, and these two videos about sum it up.

Here we are supplying, training, and financing ISIS and al-Qaeda in Syria. I mean…that fact alone ought to just discredit the US government.

It will be interesting to see what happens under Trump. If there is a silver lining of any kind whatsoever in a Trump presidency, it is the probability that he will ratchet down the Syrian conflict and the confrontation with Russia generally. We will see if the president actually has any control over foreign policy, I guess.

Zooey wrote:

Yeah, I’ve started to catch up on the Syria story, and these two videos about sum it up.

Here we are supplying, training, and financing ISIS and al-Qaeda in Syria. I mean…that fact alone ought to just discredit the US government.

It will be interesting to see what happens under Trump. If there is a silver lining of any kind whatsoever in a Trump presidency, it is the probability that he will ratchet down the Syrian conflict and the confrontation with Russia generally. We will see if the president actually has any control over foreign policy, I guess.

Alex Jones reported the US military aid to ISIS and Al Qaeda years ago as soon as it began. Military personnel were giving witness to the drops and the terrorists laughing at them telling them Assad first then they’re next. Too bad the “credible” MSM still doesn’t acknowledge the fact. But should an american citizen send a $5 donation to the same terrorists the MSM will be all over the case with the FBI lauded for their great work in keeping us “safe”. Fake News. Gotta love it.

I really enjoy TJDS.

Jimmy Dore is a hoot. I get that he’s a comedian, but he’s only pretty spot on.

I mean he doggedly jumped on DAPL. He gets most importantly the DEAL about WHY it’s not okay to give in to corporatist, warmongering DLC Dems because the Reps are nightmares.

For a comedian, he’s more clear about the mission of the fourth estate than almost anyone in the MSM.

What kills me is that it’s not like the MSM CAN’T break big stories.

Hell, Mary Mapes and Dan Rather broke Abu Ghraib.

I really regret being part of that whole “font mob” when it came out. Funny you should mention that.

I just saw the movie, Truth, based on the book by Mary Mapes with Cate Blanchett and Robert Redford. It was…illuminating. And it does make a pretty potent statement. Even without the documents, the big slam is that Bush likely went AWOL and Viacom and Bush had SIGNIFICANT corporate interests, prior to and after the report went on air including Bush’s veto of Budget because it included allowing one company to own 43% of all media in the country. People were super upset about that at the time. He settled for 39%, the exact amount Viacom owned so they wouldn’t have to sell any assets.

Since Mary Mapes and CBS canning everyone south of the President of CBS who touched that story including executives overseeing the story, the MSM simply cannot be counted on to break another story about a sitting President.

Now, it’s LAUGHABLE. At least the Bush story got on air. Now? Not a chance.

That’s how crazy this all is. Even as compromised as the MSM was… as late as 2004, the MSM could still break a story about a sitting President.

CBS won a Peabody for Mary Mapes reporting/producing work at Abu Ghraib. Amazing. And they touted their Peabody win, but I sure couldn’t find any positive attribution to Rather and Mapes. Just CBS saying, “yay, we won”.

The hardest part about all of this is that we need BIG MEDIA for one thing. Lawyers. When the state wants to go after media, it takes resources to fight back. You think a fucking BLOGGER could have published the Pentagon Papers? You think Assange could publish WikiLeaks without funding and serious access to legal counsel?

Sure, the current Alt-Media landscape can act like meta-critics and critique the media… but they can’t really BE the media because…resources. Very few venues can do what TYT did and send a reporter to Standing Rock for weeks and actually deploy a drone to catch the corporation lying. Normally, that’d be big media. But now that it’s corporate media… who fills that gap?

It’s not some blogger or comedian.

Now we have a Corporate media that merely plagiarizes the dying print media (“from a report in the Detroit Free Press… from a report in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer… from a report in the LA Times… etc). When print finally dies, corporate media won’t even have THAT content and infotainment won’t even have watered down info to peddle.

Not that it matters. The biz side will simply see it as “how do we get more viewers” and don’t see the News as a duty like the giants of news did. They don’t see producing the news any different than Big Brother or Survivor or any other reality show…

Mackeyser wrote:

You act like it’s any surprise to anyone here that the US Gov’t has been offering aid and comfort directly to our own enemies not just recently, but for decades.

Honestly, I don’t know who you’re responding to…

It’s like there’s this phantom Hillary supporter that you desperately want to do battle with…except, they’re just not HERE.

Then where was your writing about it? Where was your credible MSM? Years after the fact and you act like you knew it all along. I call BS.

This place was loaded with Hildabeast supporters who now refuse to admit it. Before Bernie or Jill there was Hildabeast. Compared to Trump or any republican there’s Hildabeast.

Jesus Christ.

Some things that get said are just breath-taking.

Zooey wrote:

Jesus Christ.

Some things that get said are just breath-taking.

Or hit too close to home.

bnw wrote:

Zooey wrote:

Jesus Christ.

Some things that get said are just breath-taking.

Or hit too close to home.

Okay, I am going to go through this once, and that is the end of it. I am going to deliver a couple of facts to you, and it ends there.

1. Nobody here supported Hillary until the end when the choice was between her and Trump. And it wasn’t support of Hillary as it was a vote against Trump whom everyone here considers to be a man who is likely to go down in history as the worst president of all time.

2. As far as the US offering aid and support to our enemies…you are 15 years too late for that conversation. We have been discussing the US government here, and it’s entire sordid foreign policy history for so long that, 5 years from now, we will still consider you “new” to the forum. So your revelation that America is funding its own “enemies” is so well-known to us that we take it for granted that everybody already knows that.