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November 30, 2016 at 3:51 pm #59867
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Polian said…Goff would be better off with some continuity….as in keeping Fisher around.
Was very impressed with Goff though, words like “outstanding” “deadly accurate” “confident” “unflappable” “gonna be a good one” we’re used by him describing what he saw.
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Polian…Was very impressed with Goff though, words like “outstanding” “deadly accurate” “confident” “unflappable” “gonna be a good one” we’re used by him describing what he saw.
=============Wouldn’t you agree with all that? IE the description of Goff.
I agree with all that….
November 30, 2016 at 8:55 pm #59900wvParticipant=====================
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Polian…Was very impressed with Goff though, words like “outstanding” “deadly accurate” “confident” “unflappable” “gonna be a good one” we’re used by him describing what he saw.
=============Wouldn’t you agree with all that? IE the description of Goff.
I agree with all that….
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Oh yeah. Goff looks like a future star to me.w
vNovember 30, 2016 at 9:14 pm #59902
ZooeyModeratorI’m not so sure.
I think one might be able to flap him.
December 3, 2016 at 1:02 am #60088znModeratorPractice Report 12/2: Goff Ready for Next Challenge
Myles Simmons
Last Sunday against New Orleans, Goff finished 20-of-32 passing for 214 yards with three touchdowns and an interception. It was only the second time this season the Rams have passed for three touchdowns in a game.
Goff’s first-half performance stood out, especially in the two-minute drill leading up to halftime. In that stretch, the young signal-caller showed his strong pocket presence, moving to evade the rush and find an open passing lane. It’s part of how he was able to find tight end Lance Kendricks for a 24-yard pass to extend the drive and the 15-yard touchdown to cap it.
“We’ve been saying it for so long with all the questions about how he’s growing in the classroom, and then we’ve seen the flashes of it, and it was good. You saw it leading up during the course of the week — just his comfort being in the huddle, the tempo that we had to practice with Friday, the way he handled everything,” offensive coordinator Rob Boras said of Goff. “You saw it coming, and you prayed that it was going to happen. You just didn’t know if it was going to come to fruition, and it did.
“It just proved it wasn’t too big for him,” Boras continued. “You saw the way he moved in the pocket. He made some big-time throws. It was a really good first half for him.”
“I don’t think it’s anything in particular,” Goff said of his progress. “I think it’s just everything’s improved and the game is starting to slow down. It’s starting to feel more comfortable every day out here and every week on Sundays.”
As there is with any young quarterback, Goff had his missteps against the Saints as well. There was the lost fumble deep in Los Angeles’ own territory that led to a New Orleans touchdown. And there was the third-quarter interception, where Goff looked like he tried to force a pass between a pair of defenders to Kendricks.
But as Boras put it, one of Goff’s best attributes is how he can put negative plays behind him quickly.
“Jared has a very short memory, and he’s a very confident young man,” Boras said. “The fumble — he forgets it. He comes back, and he’ll play — the next play. Same thing with the interception. He doesn’t carry that, and that’s hard.
“We always talk about play the next play, and a lot of times it can just be lip service, but I think he’s got a short memory,” Boras continued. “He’s confident in himself, and his ability. I think seeing something go bad and how he responded, I think that was a really positive sign, how he battled through those couple plays of adversity.”
Goff said he’s always tried to move on well from one play to the next — whether the result is positive or negative.
“Throw a touchdown, it’s over immediately. Have a bad play, it’s over immediately,” Goff said. “I think that’s kind of the best way to go about it as a quarterback — not get too high, not get too low. Obviously there are times that you’re going to be excited and there’s going to be times where you’re not very happy, but forget about as soon as you can because the next play is the most important one.”
Just as the next game is the most important one. And this one in particular will be a challenge for Goff going up against one of the best in Patriots head coach Bill Belichick and his staff. Goff is trying to become the first rookie quarterback to beat New England at Gillette Stadium since it opened in 2002. And overall, Belichick is 16-5 against rookie quarterbacks since 2001.
So what is it about a Belichick defense that makes it so tough on young QBs?
“I think it’s just the variety that they have. They change stuff pretty consistently and do what they do really well for a long time — it’s proven results,” Goff said. “You don’t really know what to expect going in, you have an idea on film, but you know they’re going to bring something new every week. You have to be ready to adjust.”
“I think he’ll handle it,” Boras said. “He’s going to see different looks. We know they’re going to try to create confusion. It’s not just Jared that they’re confusing. Because of that, all the other guys need to step up and apply the rules, and trust what they’re seeing as well. It’s not just the quarterback, it’s, obviously, the other 10 guys on the field as well have to recognize and get on the same page with Jared, and all those different fronts and coverages that we’re going to see.”
Still, according to Rams head coach Jeff Fisher, Goff had a strong week of practice and is ready for the challenge.
“He was great — especially today,” Fisher said. “He had the wind behind him, but he knew exactly where to go with the football. So I thought he had a great week. And, hopefully, it carries over into his production and performance.”
December 4, 2016 at 7:34 am #60141znModeratorBill Belichick heaps praise on Rams QB Jared Goff
By Chris Wesseling
The Patriots aren’t underestimating the NFL’s lowest-ranked scoring offense in advance of this week’s matchup with the Rams.
Even if rookie Jared Goff needed three months to displace Case Keenum as Los Angeles’ starting quarterback, New England coach Bill Belichick sees evidence of the traits that made the former Cal star the draft’s top pick.
“You just have to respect the talent and the skill that Goff has,” Belichick said Wednesday. “You can certainly see that, particularly in this game against New Orleans. He’s a very, very talented player with a great arm and the ability to make a lot of throws.”
Belichick isn’t alone in his high regard for Goff. Whereas the Rams offense was limited by Keenum’s subpar arm strength in the first half of the season, defensive coordinator Matt Patricia suggests defenses will have more respect for Goff’s ability to stretch the field.
“Big guy, tall quarterback, he’s long. He has an extremely strong arm and a very accurate arm in a lot of the different throws that they ask him to make,” Patricia explained. “He’s a very good quarterback from the standpoint of arm strength, the ability to get the ball downfield.”
That talent was on display in New Orleans last week, as Goff became the first Rams quarterback since Sam Bradford in 2010 to throw three touchdown passes in the first half of a game. Bouncing back from an overthrow to Kenny Britt on the previous play, Goff’s most impressive moment was a backpedaling, 24-yard sideline strike to tight end Lance Kendricks. Three plays later, the two connected on a 15-yard touchdown, capping off a textbook two-minute drill for the rookie signal-caller.
You’ll notice, however, that the praise out of New England didn’t extend to Goff’s decision making and mastery of the offense.
His second-half possessions at New Orleans consisted of three punts, an interception and a failed fourth-down conversion. He was responsible for more turnovers last week (two) than Tom Brady has authored all season. Through two games, Goff’s offense is averaging just 237 yards compared to Keenum’s 308-yard average in nine starts.
Dak Prescott’s extraordinary performance notwithstanding, growing pains are the norm for first-year quarterbacks.
Expect those struggles to continue at New England, where opposing rookie quarterbacks are 0-7 with a 52.0 completion rate, a 4:14 TD-to-INT ratio and a 51.7 passer rating since 2000, per NFL Research.
The measure of Goff’s progress isn’t whether he leads an improbable upset over the Patriots. It’s whether the next five weeks instill legitimate hope that the organization’s last two first-round investments can develop into keystones around which the next great Rams offense can be constructed.
December 5, 2016 at 1:37 am #60299
HerzogParticipantYeah…. I think Bill was trying to gain a tactical advantage
December 5, 2016 at 9:21 am #60312znModeratorYeah…. I think Bill was trying to gain a tactical advantage
No he’s right about Goff. Plus the Rams AND Goff are not so silly that they would let remarks like that go to their heads.
He knew the Patz had to defend against Goff, which is what those remarks indicate. So they threw a bunch of disguised coverages and blitzes at him.
As a rule, a rookie qb in his third start is not going to thrive against a veteran defense doing that.
But then the Patz were right, to defend the Rams you have to take away their best weapon, which is Goff.
What BB DIDN’T say in his remarks is that he’s good at sorting through a veteran defenses efforts to combine blitzes and disguised coverages (and like I said no rookie would be).
December 5, 2016 at 10:05 am #60319nittany ramModeratorBut then the Patz were right, to defend the Rams you have to take away their best weapon, which is Goff.
Actually, and unfortunately, Hekker is their best weapon. How about that 76 yard punt? That was more impressive in person than it would be on TV.
December 5, 2016 at 10:24 am #60322znModeratorBut then the Patz were right, to defend the Rams you have to take away their best weapon, which is Goff.
Actually, and unfortunately, Hekker is their best weapon. How about that 76 yard punt? That was more impressive in person than it would be on TV.
What you saw in Goff was a 3rd game rookie against a smart, veteran defense. Not taking anything away from Hekker. But, we have to cut through the static to see what Goff can become. Even buried under the debris of that particular defensive gameplan, which was calculated to negate him.
December 5, 2016 at 12:51 pm #60340nittany ramModeratorBut then the Patz were right, to defend the Rams you have to take away their best weapon, which is Goff.
Actually, and unfortunately, Hekker is their best weapon. How about that 76 yard punt? That was more impressive in person than it would be on TV.
What you saw in Goff was a 3rd game rookie against a smart, veteran defense. Not taking anything away from Hekker. But, we have to cut through the static to see what Goff can become. Even buried under the debris of that particular defensive gameplan, which was calculated to negate him.
Oh there was nothing about Goff’s performance that tells me he won’t be a great QB. That game was just Belichixx against a rookie QB. I expected that.
But I don’t know if I would call him their best weapon yet. Hekker on the other hand was able to reverse field position all on his own. Hate to think how many points the Pats might have scored without Hekker.
December 5, 2016 at 1:13 pm #60341
sanbaggerParticipantHekker is a weapon no doubt about it…but to call a punter our best weapon, I think is a stretch.
I wouldn’t call Goff our best weapon on O at this point either. I think the best weapon on O is Gurley and every team that faces the Rams realizes they have to neutralize Gurley and they will win the game.
I know Gurley has been a non factor this year, but teams are game planning to stop him and by not really having any respect for the passing game, they can shut down the Rams run game.
I don’t think other teams are respecting the passing game because they know they can get pressure on the QB and he either throws short 3 step stuff all game or he gets bounced off the turf several times.
December 5, 2016 at 1:15 pm #60342
AgamemnonModeratorI could qualify this with various other statements, but that stuff isn’t necessarily pertinent. I think goff did just fine. I think he could be the Rams QB for the next 10 years.
AgamemnonDecember 5, 2016 at 1:52 pm #60344ZooeyModeratorActually, and unfortunately, Hekker is their best weapon. How about that 76 yard punt? That was more impressive in person than it would be on TV.
I had the same response to the 78-yarder against the Bills. You just wouldn’t get the sense of that on TV. On TV, a long punt is “Oh, cool.” In the stadium, it was just, “Holy ####!”
The Rams have to get it together and win a ring for Hekker’s sake.
December 5, 2016 at 3:09 pm #60352
HramParticipantCan you imagine is we had a Massey to go with Hekker???
Goff is likely to be good. The decision to sit him, hone his mechanics( I’m assuming they did) and work on the playbook and speed of the game is likely to have been the correct decision. Hekker, IMO, is currently at least in the top 3 if not our best offensive weapon.
As cool as that is for Hekker and a testimony to a potential future hall of famer, it is not the best thing to be able to say about your football team. When he is clearly no better than fourth, we will probably be winning more than currently.
December 5, 2016 at 4:13 pm #60356nittany ramModeratorCan you imagine is we had a Massey to go with Hekker???
If they had Hekker and Massey the Rams win by two touchdowns.
Even the Pats fans seated next to me conceded that point when I mentioned it.
December 5, 2016 at 4:19 pm #60357nittany ramModeratorActually, and unfortunately, Hekker is their best weapon. How about that 76 yard punt? That was more impressive in person than it would be on TV.
I had the same response to the 78-yarder against the Bills. You just wouldn’t get the sense of that on TV. On TV, a long punt is “Oh, cool.” In the stadium, it was just, “Holy ####!”
The Rams have to get it together and win a ring for Hekker’s sake.
The guy next to me: “Did he just kick that 80 yahds’?! He kicked that 80 friggin’ yahds’!
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