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November 30, 2016 at 3:56 am #59825
znModeratoralyoshamucci
Before I say anything else, I just want to see if I’m right about this …
It may just be my odd memory, but besides the one drive where Aaron Donald blew up Brees, if my memory serves, our defense gave up 9 TD DRIVES IN A ROW. WHAT. THE. &^$%^&$^%. I would say it’s unacceptable but it goes far beyond that into the area of “baffling” and possibly into “Alabama vs. Chattanooga” levels.
Also, just going to put this out there … how sure was I that we were going to get after Brees and give their offense a run? I sat Drew Brees AND Mike Thomas in my fantasy leagues, and lost every single game as a result. I have 4 leagues …
I am going to focus more than one section on Goff, since he’s my focus now. I am also going to start getting the college stuff more together … slowly, lol.
The Great
1) Goff’s 3 TD passes (in one half no less). Quick recognition inside the 20, perfect touch and accuracy. I wasn’t expecting this level of accuracy yet because it usually takes longer to gauge speed and create trust.
2) Ohio State and Michigan … and Harbaugh’s meltdown and fine afterwards. Wait, that’s Rams related, right?
The Good
3) Mike Thomas. I have this under the good because I had his draft grade way higher than where he was taken … and it’s going to be hard to fill up good things from this game.
4) Saffold at OT. More specifically, the benching of GRob.
5) Britt’s continued aggressive nature.
6) Goff’s attitude in the 2 minute drill. Body language is huge for me … while walking to the huddle and looking over to the sidelines … I got the sense that he wasn’t getting clear communication, and while walking he got close to Barnes, who was kinda lollygagging, and he pushed him into position with an annoyed sense of urgency. He doesn’t have the ability to call out the defense yet for sub par effort, but he’s already commanding respect with his play and confidence.
7) The play design on Britt’s TD, and the execution of the rub route without drawing a penalty.
8) Donald’s strip sack backflip bodyslam …
9) I’m going to put the sideline altercation here … as I found it to be truly necessary to see as a fan.
The Bad
10) Goff’s flinging it high when he rushes. Yes, he’s a rookie, but I’ve got to mention it.
11) Seriously Saffold … you got hurt your first opportunity to play outside?
12) Gurley seems emotional.
13) The INT needed to be broken up. Yes he shouldn’t have thrown it … but I expect TEs to know better.
14) Our secondary, in general.
The Ugly
15) At what point does giving up 200 yards rushing happen? Were our LBs and Safeties sleeping?
16) Where was the LB on Cadet’s and Hightower’s TD? Or safety? Seriously? No coverage at all?
17) Not knowing which defensive players gave up for certain, because they were all so bad.
18) The unfortunate that I am … Wanting Fisher to be retained and fully believing he would be fired the first 6 games of the season … moving to wanting him fired and believing fully now that he WILL be retained. That’s an unexpected transition for me.
The Saving Grace
19) Goff and Gurley. That’s the foundation of an offense moving forward.
November 30, 2016 at 3:57 am #59826
znModeratorLMU93
Game view from Section 517, Row 1….
Back from New Orleans and what was a really great weekend. Yes, including the game. I guess it says a lot about where I am as a fan because we had a great time throughout…
I didn’t take notes or anything and didn’t see everything going on but just my own game day observations.
The Game
Pre-game we went to ‘Champions Square’ outside the Dome which was a lot of fun. Live music of course. Saw I don’t know maybe 60-70 Rams fans in jerseys and shirts during the course of the day. A couple locals commented that they expected to see more. Very welcoming and polite- apparently Saints fans only dislike Falcons fans. All others welcome… Superdome looks in good shape to me for being 45 years old. Our seats were first row at the railing of the 2nd level, 50 yard line on the Rams side. So great views. Sat next to a nice couple from western Canada who said they were Seahawks fans visiting but had on Saints shirts and cheered for them. Their first NFL game.
Goff was among the 2-4 players leading the Rams onto the field. He sprinted all 100 yards up the sideline, turned and started his warm up throws.
My general impressions of Goff: He’s extremely composed. Noise/crowd didn’t bother him. Didn’t seem confused at any point at all. Was directing traffic with the WRs pre-snap, pointing out the defense, etc. Keeps his eyes downfield. Good feet. Saints made a point to pressure him from his right side. Kid can move around pretty well. Great arm. For his 2nd career start and first road game I thought he was impressive. Typical rookie QB that holds onto the ball too long. But zero red flags.
He was looking for Higbee downfield several times when he checked down. His one bad decision was the INT into double coverage- not sure if there was a better option elsewhere. A few overthrows on out patterns otherwise but I also think part of that was making sure it was away from the defender(s).
Spends all his time on the sidelines with Weinke and Keenum. All of it.
You know who’s locked in during the game? Keenum. He was encouraging each of the OL before they go on the field for the 1st drive. He’ll periodically stand to the side and just works on his drop backs. Stretches and stays loose. Goes right over to Goff and Weinke after every series. Good teammate.
Quick seemed to line up wrong a few times which led to the directing traffic by Goff mentioned above. Maybe others but I didn’t notice specifically.
The Goff fumble in the 2nd was a killer. As was the 60-yard run on the first play after halftime. The other turning point to me was mid-3rd when it was 35-21 and the Saints had 3rd and long from their own 10 and got a 30+ yard pass to Thomas. If the Rams hold there they get the ball back in good field position. The door just seemed to close on them there.
The offensive line was much better with Saffold at LT and Brown at LG. And in fact I watched Donnal and he didn’t do badly when he had to go in. Hate to say it but if Saffold can’t play this week I think I’d go with Donnal at LT vs. Robinson. Tried to find Robinson in street clothes on the sidelines but couldn’t find him.
Defensively, well, I’ll say this. I think it really actually could have been worse. I don’t know who blew assignments but the open screens/swing passes were just totally wide open. To me I think a big part of the defense’s issue is when they get pressure it’s from the DTs (Donald, Brockers and Easley). Aside from Quinn’s sack they just don’t get pressure from DE. Virtually none.
My general impression defensively was they were selling out early to stop the WRs and big plays and it opened up the Saints’ running game. The Saints have a pretty big OL and the Rams, with Barron and Joyner, are really basically playing a 4-1-6 base defense. Plus the Saints went to a tackle eligible/six man OL probably 7-9 times. So if the DL doesn’t get penetration they have trouble. TEs also were given those 8-12 yard comeback routes all day. Saints fans wanted PI on Joyner on the deep ball but he had turned his head and I thought a good non-call.
Fairley was talking quite a bit to the Rams sideline as the game progressed. Didn’t really get a sense of the Saints/Williams thing or Saints having any extra motivation to running up the score seeing it live.
Leader of the defense is clearly Ogletree. He is talking to guys on the sideline a lot. Defense stays pretty spaced out with the DL, LBs and DBs all sitting in groups. For a couple minutes before the game started I thought Quinn was inactive. He had a hat and sweatpants on during the national anthem. Puts them back on frequently.
My general impression was Gaines and Alexander had bad days. Not torched but a step or two late all day. Brees is just an elite QB and sees the field so well, very accurate and calm.
Special teams- Hekker is something to see. My first time at a game in person since he’s been a Ram (my last game was 2011 @DAL). His accuracy with placement almost looks easy. If there’s an NFL record for all-time punts downed inside the 20 by the end of his career he’ll probably have it. Rams coverage units are also very good. And Cunningham is an excellent KOR. He gets good blocking by Harkey, Rhaney, etc.
That’s about it for the game… By the way, wore my #11 Everett jersey and got a lot of comments from Saints fans. As in they remember Everett pretty fondly from his three seasons there.
The City
I just need to say New Orleans is easily one of my favorite US cities. Repeat after me- Bourbon Street is not New Orleans. If your impression of New Orleans is filth and stumbling drunks on Bourbon Street you’re wrong. There is some dark and seedy stuff you’ll see for sure. But there is SO MUCH more to it. The culture and history of that city is amazing. The city gets nicer literally by the block the further you get away from Bourbon. It has the most amazing food in the country in my opinion. The people are about as welcoming as can be. We were stopped probably 6 times by Saints fans before/at the game who asked if we were enjoying the city, if we were being treated well, and thanking us sincerely for visiting. How often does that happen at other NFL games?…So if you make a trip to New Orleans don’t waste time walking up and down Bourbon Street. Go to the jazz clubs lining Frenchman Street and you’ll hear amazing music and be with more locals than tourists. Stroll down Magazine Street in the Garden District and see the historic homes. Get a drink at the Carousel Bar at the Hotel Monteleone and hear great live music in that lounge at night. Have barbecued shrimp at Mr. B’s Bistro. Go see Louis Armstrong Park at the edge of the Treme (pronounced “tre-May” ). Walk along the Mississippi. Go to one of Emeril’s three restaurants. We did a fantastic 2.5-hour walking tour of Treme (and by the way that is a great HBO show…) that taught us so much about the 300-year history of the city, the origin of jazz- and rock and roll by the way- in New Orleans, the complex history of slavery, free people of color, French and Spanish influence, what really went on after Katrina, and more. After dinner one night we met the owner of the cajun restaurant on our way out who asked where we were from and thanked us for coming and then insisted we take free beers in our cab for the ride back. Only in New Orleans… We went to a bar in Treme Sunday night at the advice of our tour guide and were the only two white people there out of 150 people and were extremely welcome.
There is a quote by Tennessee Williams that says ““America has only three cities: New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland.” He makes a good point…
That is all. On to Foxboro this weekend where I doubt the fans will be as cordial… But I’ll report from there next Monday too.
November 30, 2016 at 4:10 am #59828
znModeratorjrry32
I’d give Goff a B-. I think Goff would tell you it’s nowhere near his best. He left some plays on the field. It was a good performance. But Goff can and will do better. He made some mistakes today. But he’ll learn from them. That’s what this year is supposed to be…a learning experience.
The interception was on Goff. It was a difficult play for Kendricks because Vaccaro had momentum carrying him away with the ball while Kendricks was trying to reach back for it. A guy like Larry Fitzgerald might have wrestled it away, but that’s because Fitz’s hand strength is unreal. Not a lot of guys in the game who could have taken that ball away.
But the biggest reason why I put it on Goff is because he misread the play. The strength of the Saints defense was on that side of the field. Goff should have read the defense pre-snap and started left with his progressions. If he had, he would have noticed that the CB was caught between Mike Thomas and Tavon Austin IIRC. He would have been able to choose between zipping it into Austin or trying to loft it over the CB to Thomas. It’s a much easier play. Instead, he forced it into traffic.
It’s a rookie mistake, though. He’ll learn. This is why you can’t simulate live game reps against real defenses.
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