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  • #54646
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    Laram on Gurley

    Watch Benny Cunningham run behind the same line.

    Its Gurley and he’s the same rb he was in his rookie year.

    In 2015:

    2 games avg under 4ypc
    3 games avg under 3ypc
    1 game avg under 2ypc

    2016:

    After 4 games Gurley avgs 2.6ypc

    Todd Gurley is what we call a “run to the play call rb”. He’s gonna run straight to the gap that the play was designed to run in.

    If there is a hole. he’ll accelerate through it and run through arm tackles in the open field.

    If there is no hole he’ll run right up the back of the blocker or straight into the defender.

    He doesn’t run though head-on tackles. He’ll side step or run though quarter tackles in the open field.

    The reason BC is more effective is he’s quicker in tight quarters. He can move laterally from one gap to another quickly.

    Benny needs more touches.

    #54656
    Winnbrad
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    I understand where he’s coming from with that, but I disagree. If BC were better, the coaches would know by now. They would have known long ago. Gurley is a better back than BC by a lot.

    BC may be a better screen/flat pass kind of guy, and he is great, but as a pure runner out of the backfield, it’s not even close.

    When I watch the coaches tape of the past 3 games (I refuse to watch the niner game LOL!), I’m seeing defenders leaving nowhere for Gurley to go. I’m sure teams have made adjustments from last year to prevent the Gurley “highlight reel” run, which is what’s missing this year from his stats. Throw in one highlight reel run per game, doesn’t have to be a long TD, just a 30-40 yard gallop, and Gurley’s numbers look similar to last year during his hot streak. Throw in 2 big runs per game and he looks just like the stud Todd Gurley we know and love. And everyone will be oohing and aaaahing over him again.

    He runs through tackles, breaks them as well as anyone in the league today, and he can outrun people.

    IMO, there’s just way less daylight this year than last. The opportunities for big plays are far less right now.

    If I were a defensive coordinator, I wouldn’t lose sleep over Britt, Quick, Cunningham, or Keenum. I’d find a way to stop Gurley. He’s the only player on offense than can completely take over a game. Austin can hurt you, but he’s not gonna beat a team for 60 minutes.

    Hopefully, the Rams can take advantage of that in some other ways. And I think they have with Britt and Quick. If Keenum would stop misfiring to Austin, and Austin would stop the drops, we’d see more big plays from Austin, too.

    #54657
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    I understand where he’s coming from with that, but I disagree. If BC were better, the coaches would know by now. They would have known long ago. Gurley is a better back than BC by a lot.

    BC may be a better screen/flat pass kind of guy, and he is great, but as a pure runner out of the backfield, it’s not even close.

    When I watch the coaches tape of the past 3 games (I refuse to watch the niner game LOL!), I’m seeing defenders leaving nowhere for Gurley to go. I’m sure teams have made adjustments from last year to prevent the Gurley “highlight reel” run, which is what’s missing this year from his stats. Throw in one highlight reel run per game, doesn’t have to be a long TD, just a 30-40 yard gallop, and Gurley’s numbers look similar to last year during his hot streak. Throw in 2 big runs per game and he looks just like the stud Todd Gurley we know and love. And everyone will be oohing and aaaahing over him again.

    He runs through tackles, breaks them as well as anyone in the league today, and he can outrun people.

    IMO, there’s just way less daylight this year than last. The opportunities for big plays are far less right now.

    If I were a defensive coordinator, I wouldn’t lose sleep over Britt, Quick, Cunningham, or Keenum. I’d find a way to stop Gurley. He’s the only player on offense than can completely take over a game. Austin can hurt you, but he’s not gonna beat a team for 60 minutes.

    Hopefully, the Rams can take advantage of that in some other ways. And I think they have with Britt and Quick. If Keenum would stop misfiring to Austin, and Austin would stop the drops, we’d see more big plays from Austin, too.

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    Well, i dont have any final answers, but from what I’ve seen,
    it looks to me, like there aint no holes for G to run in.

    So, i agree with you. I think.

    I think Benny gets more yards cause the whole Defense doesn’t
    focus on Benny the way they do G.

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    #54661
    Winnbrad
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    Yeah. I think Gurley is being “keyed” by the defenses. Whatever that term means?

    I don’t blame them. I’d key him, too.

    #54666
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    Yeah. I think Gurley is being “keyed” by the defenses. Whatever that term means?

    I don’t blame them. I’d key him, too.

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    Yeah, zn i think, noted somewhere that Gurley isnt as nifty in the backfield as Adrian Peterson, which is probly true, but Gurley is no 2.8 yard per attempt,
    type runner. He’s a lot better than his numbers show.

    I gotta feeling the offense will reach the lofty heights of perhaps “just below average”
    before the end of the year. Maybe even average 18 or 19 a game. 🙂

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    #54670
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    Well some cogitating and pondering, I’ve decided that by far the best take on this I’ve heard is from D’marco Farr. It’s here, in this audio, about 11:48 in —>

    link: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/audio-farr-simmons-on-the-arz-game/

    Farr says defenses not only crowd the line against Gurley and the Rams, they play all sorts of games with stunts and change-ups. His point is that the shifting and movement causes indecision in the OL (not sure who to block) and in turn that causes indecision for the RB.

    I think what happened this year is that SF gameplanned that kind of attack, it worked, and now every team they face is doing it.

    Remember this is not just a simple case of loading the box. More than that, defenses have been creative in getting their guys to stunt and move in their attack, making it harder for a less experienced line to figure out what to do and who to block each play. That produces hesitation and indecision and so they look like they’re out of sync as a line.

    Gurley is not a great behind the LOS lateral movement guy–he has to go forward, that’s who he is. So that’s part of it. Still when you get the blocking, as we saw last year, a back like that can still thrive.

    #54675
    Winnbrad
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    Well some cogitating and pondering, I’ve decided that by far the best take on this I’ve heard is from D’marco Farr. It’s here, in this audio

    link: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/audio-farr-simmons-on-the-arz-game/

    Farr says defenses not only crowd the line against Gurley and the Rams, they play all sorts of games with stunts and change-ups. His point is that the shifting and movement causes indecision in the OL (not sure who to block) and in turn that causes indecision for the RB.

    I think what happened this year is that SF gameplanned that kind of attack, it worked, and now every team they face is doing it.

    Remember this is not just a simple case of loading the box. More than that, defenses have been creative in getting their guys to stunt and move in their attack, making it harder for a less experienced line to figure out what to do and who to block each play. That produces hesitation and indecision and so they look like they’re out of sync as a line.

    Gurley is not a great behind the LOS lateral movement guy–he has to go forward, that’s who he is. So that’s part of it. Still when you get the blocking, as we saw last year, a back like that can still thrive.

    That’s the best explanation I’ve heard.

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