Man Who Assaulted Black Woman At Trump Rally Learns It Ruined His Life

bnw wrote:

He wrote online he pushed her. Pushed. His future DI would have had worse in store for him and his fellow recruits.

Sure. And that wouldn’t be an act of hate. Totally different.

Assault. Battery. Push. Sure, OK. From the video it is a VFW guy who is assaulting her through the crowd.

TSRF wrote:

Pretty clear to me a Red Hat started the altercation. Watching this crap, I can’t stop my brain from connecting the dots from Red Hat to Brown Shirt.

If anybody sees it differently, please try and explain it to me.

I could be wrong, but i ‘think’ this is the kind
of thing that would cost Trump in any
general election.

Even though there is a long long long
history of much worse going on
in the land of the free
and the home of the brave.
I mean in the 19-teens they just
threw ya in jail if you protested
against war. If you were lucky,
and didnt get maimed or lynched.

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I don’t really think Trump can win the general election for that reason myself, although I didn’t think he would last long in the Republican primary, either. In the end, all those Undecided, Independent, Moderate voters are going to fill in the ballot for the “safest” candidate. A lot of what Trump says resonates with a lot of voters, but I don’t believe you are going to get a majority of voters who are willing to risk his apparent recklessness. I mean, he is unleashing ^^^^^^^^^ this kind of crap. He would have to pull in the reins in the general, and follow the attack plan on Hillary that was described in the article I linked to have a chance, but I just don’t think he is self-disciplined enough not to shoot himself in the foot.

Clinton/Trump would be the ugliest campaign in my lifetime, and there will be a lot of holding of noses at the ballot boxes.

wv wrote:

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Yeah, i suppose it would be the worst
Dem-Rep combo in my lifetime.

The Corporate-Billionaire-egomaniac
vs. the Corporate-puppet-egomaniac.

They will split 95 percent of the
Amerikan citizens’ votes, as per usual.
Amerikans will flock to the polls
and continue to vote for Dems and Reps.
Like its a law of nature or something.

Meanwhile independent candidates,
like Jill Stein will split the
remaining 5 percent of the votes.

What does that say
about Amerika?

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My son, who is 18, was flipping out after Tuesday. He thinks it’s the end of the world. Basically, he argues, Sanders is the only candidate who, as president, would do anything about climate change that might matter, and that without Sanders as president, it’s Game Over.

I tried to fish around for…something…but I got nothing.

Zooey wrote:

wv wrote:

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Yeah, i suppose it would be the worst
Dem-Rep combo in my lifetime.

The Corporate-Billionaire-egomaniac
vs. the Corporate-puppet-egomaniac.

They will split 95 percent of the
Amerikan citizens’ votes, as per usual.
Amerikans will flock to the polls
and continue to vote for Dems and Reps.
Like its a law of nature or something.

Meanwhile independent candidates,
like Jill Stein will split the
remaining 5 percent of the votes.

What does that say
about Amerika?

w
v

My son, who is 18, was flipping out after Tuesday. He thinks it’s the end of the world. Basically, he argues, Sanders is the only candidate who, as president, would do anything about climate change that might matter, and that without Sanders as president, it’s Game Over.

I tried to fish around for…something…but I got nothing.

How very odd for an 18 year old prime for the draft when both parties have candidates willing to expand war.

Zooey wrote:

bnw wrote:

How very odd for an 18 year old prime for the draft when both parties have candidates willing to expand war.

It took me a while to come up with a possible interpretation of what that remark might mean. I gather you are saying that the immediate threat of being drafted is greater than the threat posed by climate change.

I’d say the chance of my son being drafted is zero. The chance of climate destabilization in the next 30 years is 100%. The only question is how bad will it be.

Yes the threat of being drafted. If he’s exempt then war is still the threat. CC is complete BS. Climate destabilization another term for climatic variability. Sounds ominous that destabilization but its a naturally occurring phenomenon.

waterfield wrote:

In terms of competence Clinton was a top notch state senator and actually won me over on her performance as Secretary of State. Between her and Trump I won’t be holding my nose.

Its a strange situation. Clinton is the mainstream-Dem,
and its the wacky-Trump who is for
National Health Care. At least thats what the site
i read today, said.

Did you know this? (i didnt)
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supports-national-health-care-2011-4

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waterfield wrote:

In terms of competence Clinton was a top notch state senator and actually won me over on her performance as Secretary of State. Between her and Trump I won’t be holding my nose.

I’m not a fan of her foreign policy.

Opted to kill Muammar al-Gaddafi because he was looking to move towards a gold-backed African currency to compete with the dollar. Now ISIS is all over the place in the wake of that.

Not a Clinton fan. She’s just another neo-con in my book.

Am i the only one startled that Donald Trump is in favor
of a Canadian-style, socialist-single-payer, National Health Care plan?

Did you folks know about that?

Health Care is the single biggest ‘domestic’ policy to me.
Single biggest. (Corporate personhood/power is a ‘global’ policy to me)

And Mr Crazy, has the best policy on the single
most important domestic issue? (other than Sanders, and Stein, of course)

If it comes down to Trump vs Clinton — i might have to vote for Mr Crazy. Surreal. Tell me I’m dreaming.

Oh, bummer.

Turns out the quote is completely false. Trump never said anything like that.

http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/

nittany ram wrote:

If Trump is serious about universal healthcare then that would make him somewhat more palatable. Universal heathcare or not I would take a Trump presidency over a Cruz presidency any day.

Ditto.

I may be wrong, but I wouldn’t think a president could actually be as crazy as Trump flashes. There are too many people around, and too many constraints on what a president can actually do. The situation room, for example, is filled with top Pentagon and intelligence people. Trump can’t just lose his shit and blow up Kenya, or something.

zn wrote:

If indeed Trump is in favor of single-payer universal health insurance…2 things about that.

1. He’s running on his own money. He is therefore not beholden, like virtually everyone else is, to money from the pharms and private insurers.

2. I also would never be persuaded to vote for him, even with that. His overt racism is too much for me and having a Putin in office who thinks and talks that way for 4 years would be bad. I’ll wait until a progressive shakes free of the pharms and insurers and vote for them some day.

Well…on #1. I saw somewhere that he isn’t running on his own money. That’s complete Trumpian spin. He has spent a couple of million. The rest has come from fundraising. The sources…I do not know.

But we should find out.

Zooey wrote:

zn wrote:

If indeed Trump is in favor of single-payer universal health insurance…2 things about that.

1. He’s running on his own money. He is therefore not beholden, like virtually everyone else is, to money from the pharms and private insurers.

2. I also would never be persuaded to vote for him, even with that. His overt racism is too much for me and having a Putin in office who thinks and talks that way for 4 years would be bad. I’ll wait until a progressive shakes free of the pharms and insurers and vote for them some day.

Well…on #1. I saw somewhere that he isn’t running on his own money. That’s complete Trumpian spin. He has spent a couple of million. The rest has come from fundraising. The sources…I do not know.

But we should find out.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/

Over 90% of Trump’s $ is from outsiders, not his own.

The totals he has raised are not close to Rubio or Cruz, let alone Bush and Clinton, but the claim he is running on his own money is a lie.